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00:00I am Mary Ameem and today's topic is Naftar Ameem is wrong but we have seen that Tariq Insaaf has also filed a complaint under the same law
00:08Apart from this, we will ask questions about his Jalsa and many other political questions.
00:12Rauf Hassan will be with us in the first part of the program.
00:15After that, the game of negotiations, meetings and politics has entered an interesting phase.
00:20Government allies and the opposition all say that talks should take place.
00:25We have seen that Chaudhary Shujaat has also become active in this regard.
00:27We will talk about this in the second part of the program.
00:29Underground water is becoming dangerous.
00:31By 2040, drinking water will be very less for the common people in Pakistan.
00:36The state will have to work on the basis of chaos.
00:39We will talk about this in the last part of the program.
00:41Let's start.
00:42Yesterday, a detailed decision of the Supreme Court was issued regarding Naftar Ameem.
00:45And as a result of that decision, we saw that Tariq Insaaf declared it as his moral victory.
00:49Although he said that legally he could not win his case.
00:54But he has won this case morally.
00:56Many leaders of Tariq Insaaf have also declared it as NRO 2.
01:02After this decision, the first reaction of Tariq Insaaf was NRO 2.
01:09Let's listen to it.
01:10Today's decision is basically NRO 2.
01:14When the PDM government came, they first changed it to NAB laws.
01:18The Supreme Court asked Mr. Khan, why are you against Naftar Ameem?
01:22If it is allowed, you will benefit.
01:24Mr. Khan said that he does not want a personal benefit.
01:27He wants the benefit of the whole nation.
01:30Today, we saw that Bani PTI has filed a complaint in the case of Naftar Ameem for £190 million.
01:38The complaint has been filed under the new law.
01:41During the hearing in Adiala Jail, the lawyer filed a copy of the Supreme Court decision on Naftar Ameem.
01:47The lawyer of Bani PTI said that a case of £190 million is not possible after the Supreme Court decision on Naftar Ameem.
01:55In Naftar Ameem, all the decisions of the Cabinet are secured.
01:59Bani PTI and Bushra Bibi were presented in the Court of Appeal.
02:02However, the Court issued a notice to the parties on the request.
02:05The case was closed on 10th December.
02:11Mr. Rao Fasan is with us in the first part of the program.
02:14He is the Secretary-General of Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaaf.
02:16Thank you, Mr. Rao Fasan.
02:17First of all, let's start with Naftar Ameem.
02:20Today, you have asked for a bail.
02:22That is, after the decision was made, you said that since the decision has been made, this case is not possible.
02:30Till yesterday, you were claiming a moral victory.
02:33Then why did you request for a bail today?
02:36As Mr. Gaur said, it is a very relevant discussion.
02:42When we moved this petition against the new amendments, we had a contention.
02:48Even today, we have the same contention on the moral ground.
02:51People asked Mr. Khan, when you are getting a direct benefit from this, why are you opposing it?
02:57He replied, this is not a question of my personality.
03:00This is a question of the state.
03:01This is a question of the people.
03:02If you do not hold some people accountable for their corruption, then you should not hold the common people accountable.
03:10Leave them alone.
03:11Despite our efforts, the amendment has been reversed.
03:18Finally, the Supreme Court has done it.
03:20So, it has become a law.
03:22When it has become a law, then it is necessary that every citizen can use it.
03:27Is there NRO 2 or not?
03:29There was NRO 2.
03:30The people who wanted to take advantage of it, are taking advantage of it.
03:33Now, you are also taking advantage of this law.
03:36So, do you support NRO 2 or not?
03:39This NRO 2, in our context, we opposed it.
03:41What is the context?
03:42You opposed it.
03:43You said, this will not benefit my personality.
03:45But now that your personality is benefiting, you are supporting it.
03:48So, what is the difference?
03:49Because now, it has become the law of the country.
03:51After the Supreme Court decision, it has become the law of the country.
03:56Sir, moral victory is only when you say that the law has become the law.
03:59But still, because we do not believe in it, we do not want to take its help.
04:03You have a point.
04:05I completely concede.
04:06But now that the law has become the law, as much as there has been discussion on it,
04:09it is that the law of the country should be acceptable to everyone.
04:13Everyone should honour it.
04:14So, in its context, I think this decision has been taken that we should also gain its benefit.
04:18So, how do you define this decision?
04:22Is it a moral victory?
04:24Is it a legal defeat?
04:25We could not convince the Supreme Court on our point of view.
04:29So, you could not win legally.
04:30So, the last thing is that legally, we are not…
04:32And morally?
04:33So, because there is a law on morality, there is no morality in it.
04:36The law that has become the law of the country, it applies to everyone.
04:40It applies to me, it applies to you, it applies to everyone.
04:43Frankly, this is a little confusing for me.
04:45Because according to you, if this should not benefit your personality,
04:49then you should not…
04:51Let law take its course.
04:54You yourself are saying that because the law has been passed,
04:57then we should try in this case under its umbrella.
05:00That is very specific.
05:01It is like you are actually the beneficiary of this law now.
05:05Look, take another context.
05:08All these cases, our contention has been from the first day that these are fake and privileged cases.
05:13And this Toshakhana 2 and this case of 190 million pounds,
05:17these are also fake and privileged cases.
05:19Now, because a law has been made, right or wrong,
05:21if you ask me till now, frankly, this law should not be made in this way.
05:24It is a wrong law.
05:25I disagree with this.
05:27But because a law has been made,
05:29and if we get it,
05:31and Mr. Khan is completely illegally and unconstitutionally incarcerated.
05:36So, if we get it, and that is why we immediately said that we should get the benefit.
05:40So, it is a wrong law, but since it is being used politically, then it is fine.
05:44Not politically, but legally.
05:46Sir, it is legal and also political.
05:48If Mr. Khan gets rid of it, then it will also affect politics.
05:51It will affect politics, but it is not in a political context, it is in a legal context.
05:55Only in this context, it is legal.
05:57So, if under this law, for example, the People's Party, PMLN,
06:00or any other party related people ask for relief,
06:03that will also be fine.
06:04Now, a law has been made.
06:05So, it will be fine.
06:06Now, every common man will also…
06:09So, now it will not come in the same way in the NRO's sphere.
06:12When this law was made in the beginning, when they moved it, it was NRO, it was self-focused.
06:16The People's Party and PMLN got the most relief out of it.
06:20So, your initial complaint was that all this should be taken advantage of.
06:24It should not be done.
06:25So, don't make this law.
06:26Don't make this law.
06:27Don't reverse it.
06:28Reverse your amendments.
06:30That's why we fought and tried our best.
06:32Our lawyers tried their best.
06:33And now, incidentally, you are also a beneficiary of this law.
06:35If there is a law, there is a country, and we feel that it can give us benefit,
06:40then every lawmaker will do this.
06:42He will use every law so that he can get benefit for his client.
06:46So, this is the decision of our legal team.
06:47They have moved it.
06:48Okay.
06:49Let's move ahead a little.