Las investigaciones preliminares sobre el colapso del Apart Hotel Dubrovnik, sugiere que la construcción y modificaciones recientes, incluyendo la instalación de un ascensor, podrían haber afectado la estructura del edificio.
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00:00of what just happened here on the 24th screen.
00:04Obviously what he said in conference and in this talk that the three of us had with Alejandro, with the minister,
00:09the investigation goes that way.
00:13Repeat it, Javi, go ahead.
00:14It goes that way. They were doing constructions, among other things, windows,
00:21among other things, a task in the basement or on the first floor,
00:25and they do not rule out the issue of the elevator, that is, they affected the structure of the building,
00:30they touched some beam or some column.
00:35Well, that's why the issue was in the elevator below, an elevator that reached a basement.
00:42But Alejandro, the elevator is behind, it is not in the closest part to the front of the building.
00:49Of course, look, come, sorry, it's going to be a mess, look, here's the image again,
00:53what we just talked about with the minister.
00:56Look at the destroyed part, the top part, what they analyze.
01:00There is an image that Diego Trafferi is going to show you that says before.
01:03Apparently, the building was in the back.
01:07Of course, there it is, on the left.
01:08It was in the part that goes back.
01:11Exactly, already built.
01:13Now, look below, the image that Diego shows you now, how the roof is all broken,
01:18everything, because there, that also collapsed and spilled to the side.
01:23That is, the fall was that way.
01:25Wait, I'm going to cross, even if it looks bad.
01:27Look here, look here, look at this part, that's where this hole was supposed to be.
01:33That ladder that is there is like a new ladder, and that's where the elevator was.
01:39Then, in this other image, which is explained very well, which is already with zoom.
01:43Here, in this area, is the department of Rosa.
01:48The red lines mark how it slides.
01:51Here was the department of the retirees, let's put it that way,
01:56the lady who is alive, the man who failed.
01:57This is the water tank that has been deposited right in the room of these people.
02:03Here is part of the stairs, here are the balconies.
02:06And in this area, now they are working.
02:09The workers were here, and Rosa was here.
02:14The part of the workers, Javi, there I leave you.
02:17Notice that there are 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, but down the 8, 9, 10.
02:25In this hole.
02:26Here you look for the workers, and here you look for Nahuel and his partner.
02:31To the right, look, where the tower ends, on the right,
02:35border with the building on the side, that's where that sector is.
02:40No, higher, there, there.
02:42That sector, higher, is where the elevators were.
02:46Elevators already built, those of the building.
02:48That area, of course.
02:49But how far did that go, Javi?
02:50And on the other side is where they would have built,
02:53started to build the hole for the lift, right?
02:56Here.
02:56Of course.
02:57Well, there is the issue.
02:58And well.
02:59On this side.
02:59Now, let this be clear too.
03:02Here, from here, look at this, from here to here,
03:07what Adriana said, who lives here, who was saved by miracle,
03:11is that they had made a huge arch,
03:13and they had taken out all the brackets that held that.
03:17They took out all the windows, and they had made a giant arch from end to end.
03:21And with what purpose?
03:23What was the purpose of that arch?
03:24To put a giant window without the brackets of the windows,
03:27because the windows were as you see in the building now, here in front.
03:30Look, there Diego is going to pass.
03:31Let's see.
03:32See, the windows were like that.
03:34What they didn't want were those brackets,
03:35and that there is a straight line of a giant glazed, like modern buildings.
03:39Of course, but you took them out.
03:41Look at the building next to it, which has larger glazes.
03:43Okay, you take them out from window to window.
03:47Let's explain it to them.
03:48And of course, you weaken absolutely everything.
03:52Well, explain it to these people,
03:54who obviously have not understood it,
03:56or have not done things as they should.
03:58That's why we're here.
03:59And those windows, where did they go?
04:00That's why I didn't understand when they explained it to me.
04:04Those windows went to the building next door.
04:06Notice that the building next door,
04:08look, there is a new crack in the building next door,
04:10which is the one that Diego Traffelli is going to show you.
04:12Did you see it on the balcony?
04:12Yes, very clear.
04:13That crack wasn't there.
04:14That's why, as it progresses, it will give in,
04:18and it looks like it's cracking more, because it's without support.
04:20That crack wasn't there yesterday,
04:22it appeared today, because it keeps moving.
04:24That's why there is a danger of collapse and so on.
04:26Now, that window was here, look.
04:29Those windows were on this edge.
04:32So that's why they think it also came here.
04:35Because it starts to collapse on this side.
04:37Okay?
04:39Yes.
04:40Look, look, look at the shot.
04:42Let's see if you can see it.
04:43Look.
04:44Look here.
04:44Window.
04:46Window.
04:47Window.
04:49What this neighbor says is that from here to here,
04:53they opened everything, they opened everything.
04:56And from here to here, they opened everything.
04:58See? And they took out the windows.
05:00Well, they think that this problem could have been here.
05:03Where is the elevator, Ale?
05:05Or the lift?
05:07Look, here it doesn't show, that's why, here it doesn't show,
05:10because here, what it shows in this place,
05:11is how the arrangement is inside the apartment.
05:14But from what we are talking with Javier Díaz,
05:16and that will now be confirmed,
05:18there was an elevator here, Javi, on this side,
05:20already built, here.
05:23And there was the problem of the lift on this side.
05:27And Ale, tell me something.
05:28But what the specialists explain is that
05:32it didn't fall that way, did you see?
05:33Like it fell to the side of the archway.
05:36Well, we have to analyze it, of course.
05:38Those arches, did they seek to have visibility to the sea?
05:43Are we talking about below, or not?
05:46No.
05:47Look, here, look.
05:48No, because the sea is on the other side.
05:49There is no visibility.
05:51No, no.
05:52No, no, because it's a floor below, nothing.
05:54They could have made a breakfast hall,
05:56with glazing, so that more light comes in,
05:58or design, have a change.
06:00Well, it's not explained.
06:01Because the building has such small windows,
06:05I estimate that they wanted to make a more modern construction,
06:07so that there are large windows.
06:10And that's what could have harmed.
06:13That's what they're trying to explain.
06:16When we get to the second basement,
06:18because let's remember this.
06:19And look at it again.
06:21This, which is here, is this, which is here.
06:24But what was here,
06:26do you see that the roof is cracked and there is a hole?
06:28Well, it's in the second basement.
06:30That is, this construction that you can see here,
06:32which I will show you later,
06:34this is what they are looking for now in the second basement.
06:35Alejandro, look, in that image,
06:37now we are going to show you what one of the floors looked like.
06:39That last image you put before,
06:42the previous one, the previous one.
06:44Down, to the left, the one below, to the left, there.
06:47Here.
06:47Look, there you can clearly see,
06:50put it, you can put it, there it is, thank you.
06:52It's like, see what Alonso explained.
06:57The minister.
06:58Javier Alonso.
06:59We are not architects, we journalists,
07:00because out there many say, speak as if they were,
07:02no, we are not architects,
07:03we are interpreting what they explain to us.
07:05And also, because we consult architects,
07:07to see what vision they also have, right?
07:09So, with our words we try to be simple,
07:11and also with what we can explain to understand it.
07:14But look, it's as if, no, it's not as if,
07:17it's what the minister said.
07:19That is, the building fell down,
07:23it's as if they had cut it,
07:24did you see when the legs of those plastic chairs break,
07:28that one falls and sits on the floor above the chair,
07:31that the legs open?
07:32Well, it looked like that.
07:34The building fell down,
07:35that's why there is that hole, as Alejandro says,
07:38and then it fell to one side.
07:40You can see how it is explained.
07:41In fact, he gave it to him, exactly.
07:44He gave it to him and it fell,
07:45and it was supported in the other building,
07:47in addition to destroying half of it.
07:48Look, you are going to see an unpublished image,
07:52an image of what a floor was like,
07:55the division of the rooms.
07:59There you have it.
08:00There it is.
08:01This is what we wanted to show you.
08:04This is one of the floors of what the hotel was actually.
08:08Everything you see there, subdivided,
08:10are all rooms.
08:11One, starting from the right,
08:13one, two, one bigger, three,
08:16and then two smaller, four and five.
08:20Now, where were the elevators?
08:23Do you see up there, almost in the center,
08:25that there is a staircase?
08:26Yes.
08:26That's the staircase of the building.
08:28The elevator is glued.
08:29And on both sides...
08:30The elevator hole.
08:31...are the two elevators.
08:32If you don't close it...
08:33The two...
08:34On that side, the building falls.
08:39On the other side, as Alejandro says,
08:41is where they started to build the lift.
08:46Or they had built...
08:47They got to a good point.
08:49But I say, what gives us the idea
08:52of, first, what a floor of this hotel was like?
08:57The two fronts, to the right,
09:00the one facing the sea, to the left,
09:02the one facing the pool area.
09:04And then the elevators, where they were located.
09:08This was inside this hotel.
09:13And it fell on the side of the elevators.
09:14Yes.
09:15Yes? It fell...
09:16Well, obviously, today,
09:18one has to lean more to think
09:21that it has to do with what Ale said,
09:23well, what you say.
09:24That attempt to modify
09:27the aesthetics of a structure
09:32that, of course, included windows,
09:34but it also included supports
09:36between window and window
09:37to be able to support the building.
09:40All architects, when asked, say,
09:42no building falls because it does.
09:44And much less a building of many years.
09:47Because, in addition, the structure gives you signals.
09:51It always gives signals.
09:53And beyond being a sandy place,
09:55sandy soil and everything else we already know,
09:57because it has been explained before,
09:59it's a sea area.
10:00Well, they did something to make it fall.
10:02Yes, Ale.
10:04Look, Javi, no, signals,
10:06signals, that crack, for example.
10:08Right?
10:09That's a structure that's on the side,
10:11that's damaged.
10:13And that's a signal, right?
10:14If we talk about signals, well...
10:17And the people who said
10:18that nothing happened to the front,
10:20well, yes, the truth is that it's falling.
10:21Ale, there we are seeing on the screen
10:23what the hotel was like before, right?
10:25A Croatian flag.
10:27Possibly what you were saying,
10:29it's a matter of design.
10:30It's crazy to think that this was like this.
10:33It's a matter of design to give
10:34more luminosity to a breakfast.
10:38Yes, I insist, it's crazy
10:41to alter, of course, the aesthetics,
10:44but by altering the aesthetics,
10:46to take away the solidity
10:48that the building could withstand.
10:51Ale.
10:56Look, Facu, I'm observing,
10:58sorry, I took a silence break.
11:00Another rescue team has entered
11:03at this moment,
11:03the minister talking to the families.
11:06And they have entered the part
11:07where they are making the tunnel.
11:08They even entered some woods
11:11at this moment.
11:12I estimate that they are pruning
11:13part of the tunnel.
11:14This is like a job, like a miner.
11:16They are entering as if it were
11:19a mining job,
11:20and there they are going to bring dogs.
11:22Let's see, dogs are entering too.
11:24You can also hear the barking.
11:26Let's remember that the minister said...
11:28Attention, because...
11:30The minister said a few minutes ago
11:32that there were no signs of life,
11:36but now there are different movements, right?
11:39Yes, yes, there is another type of movement.
11:41They are recovering some objects
11:43that they are showing to some people
11:45in the back,
11:46like the ones I'm seeing.
11:48Two dogs entered,
11:50they advanced with the tunnel,
11:52they braked the bigger machine.
11:54I estimate that they are trying
11:55not to make a lot of movement
11:57so that there is no risk
11:58and the tunnel crumbles.
11:59They are a few meters away, Facu.
12:01They are a few meters away
12:02to see what can happen
12:04in the room next to you.
12:06Of course.
12:07Well, that's what I had marked.
12:08They are working like...
12:09Look, today I explained it like this, Facu.
12:11Did you see when a dog makes a well in the sand?
12:14Yes.
12:14Or not?
12:15The rescuers do the same.
12:16They are taking out with their own fingers
12:18bricks, soil, little things,
12:20everything to generate
12:21the space where they can enter.
12:24That's how they are working now
12:25in one of the tunnels.