🚨MARCHA DE JUBILADOS EN EL CONGRESO: SE SUMAN SINDICATOS Y BARRAS BRAVAS
FUERTE OPERATIVO POR POSIBLES DISTURBIOS. Patricia Bullrich declaró: "Si invaden la calle, vamos a ir duro".
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FUERTE OPERATIVO POR POSIBLES DISTURBIOS. Patricia Bullrich declaró: "Si invaden la calle, vamos a ir duro".
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00:00For now, vehicle traffic is normal here.
00:03We have seen, I would say, the federal police forces,
00:08we have seen almost all of them,
00:09police of the port security, federal police,
00:12gendarmerie, prefecture.
00:14It is coming from the Basque Country,
00:17from the Sentinela building of the gendarmerie.
00:21Several infantry gendarmerie trucks are coming,
00:24especially to carry out this security operation,
00:27of course, reinforced security,
00:28waiting for the arrival of the demonstrators at 5 p.m.
00:34Good, perfect.
00:35We are waiting, then, Carlos.
00:37And I take the opportunity to ask you, Ezequiel,
00:39what did Bullrich say about the march?
00:41Because he told you.
00:42Well, yes, attention to this audio that we are going to show.
00:45He was in Bahia Blanca and we consulted him on a radio,
00:49on Radio Mitre, precisely about the operation,
00:51because it seemed to me a central issue,
00:53since there had not even been a photo
00:55with the famous Minister of Security.
00:56How was it going to be?
00:57And, of course, his political reading of a march
00:59where they are going to join.
01:00In addition, unionists, bravo, it must be unpublished,
01:02except for some political party.
01:04I take you to an act that takes place
01:05in a march of retirees, right?
01:09I am thinking of leaving for a week here,
01:12but I am thinking that on Wednesday,
01:15perhaps, at noon, I will return to Buenos Aires,
01:19because what they are doing,
01:23that they are all coming together,
01:25is a huge provocation of the government.
01:28We are not going to let it pass.
01:30Not with the guards, not with the unions
01:32that have said they are not going to go.
01:34The protocol is going to be fulfilled
01:36and we are going to go with all the force of the law,
01:39of the protocol,
01:41and we are not going to let it become
01:43that 50, 60 joints that come together every Wednesday
01:49are taken advantage of by political organizations
01:55that are left-wing or right-wing,
01:59by the guards, bravo,
02:01and also now by the unions.
02:04So we are not going to let it pass.
02:10Tomorrow we are going to implement some measures
02:14that we are studying thoroughly
02:18for those who disobey article 124 of the penal code,
02:24which is to invade the street,
02:26we are going to go hard.
02:28They are not going to let us pass.
02:30Well, and Leo Paradiso is with us,
02:32and we were just discussing,
02:34are they fans, are they bars, are they fans and bars?
02:36There is everything, Marina, how are you?
02:38Good afternoon.
02:40There is everything, there are genuine fans
02:42who call themselves on social networks
02:44and there are also the bars that will go.
02:46From a very specific situation
02:48that has occurred,
02:50this movement of the bars involved
02:52in the march of the retirees
02:54has to do with a very specific episode
02:56that involves a renowned retiree,
02:58a fan of Chacarita,
03:00who the bar of Chacarita wants, respects,
03:02and even somehow protects,
03:04whose name is Carlos,
03:06who at some point suffered police repression
03:08in one of the last marches
03:10that took place at the Congress of the Nation.
03:12That is why immediately the bar of Chacarita
03:14was the first, the first,
03:16to join the march of the retirees
03:18and this generated the domino effect.
03:20The domino effect that
03:22other bars of the world of ascenso
03:24of the first division are involved.
03:26There is Leo,
03:28the confusion or the entanglement of being.
03:30It would be the first time
03:32that the bars are presented
03:34with a flyer on social networks.
03:36Yes.
03:38That is the strange thing.
03:40There is impunity.
03:42The bars are criminals.
03:44There are people who link this movement.
03:46The bars are criminals
03:48and they tell the police
03:50where they are going to be and what time they are going to go.
03:52That is what generates confusion.
03:54There are people,
03:56according to what is the genealogical tree
03:58of the army of this government
04:00of Javier Milei,
04:02in his prepartum
04:04he was very close
04:06to Luis Barrio Nuevo,
04:08a renowned fan of Chacarita
04:10and when the first fans
04:12of Chacarita appeared,
04:14some associated
04:16when Barrio Nuevo
04:18was opened by Milei
04:20as a completely different
04:22position from that of the government.
04:24Maybe a bill from Barrio Nuevo.
04:26No.
04:28The presence of saying
04:30I do not agree.
04:32In this case it is repeated
04:34and the basis of this presence
04:36is again Chacarita.
04:38Behind Charly or Carlos
04:40is Barrio Nuevo
04:42or not?
04:44I have understood that no.
04:46Now, if Barrio Nuevo
04:48wants to get a political cut
04:50from what has happened
04:52and wants to get
04:54full support of the Chacarita bar,
04:56the retirees, the march of the retirees
04:58is another story.
05:00I think that Barrio Nuevo
05:02has contact with the Chacarita bar
05:04because the Chacarita bar has
05:06a legion of veterans.
05:08It is the old bar.
05:10There is not a new
05:12Chacarita bar.
05:14I'm going to talk to you as a fan of Chacarita.
05:16I'm going to tell you
05:18I'm going to add a fact.
05:20Last Sunday,
05:22Chacarita lost 2-0, unfortunately.
05:24I was on the field
05:26and before the game
05:28they gave a shirt to Carlos,
05:30the famous fan of Chacarita,
05:32the retiree.
05:34The Chacarita directors gave it to him.
05:36Therefore, I say,
05:38somehow they invalidated
05:40not the march,
05:42they did invalidate it.
05:44It is the focus of the beginning of this movement.
05:46That's why it was invalidated
05:48institutionally in the club.
05:50They added a complexity.
05:54At the same time, remember,
05:56the Chacarita bar is going through
05:58a fierce internal moment.
06:00The two sisters,
06:02one of the sisters
06:04was the wife of the legendary Chacarita bar.
06:06Every now and then
06:08there is an incident
06:10where the sisters are at gunpoint.
06:12The heads of the factions
06:14of the bar are women.
06:16They are two sisters,
06:18confronted but violently.
06:20In the march of Olfacú,
06:22Marina, Leo,
06:24the Ministry of Security has decided
06:26that the first disturbance has the right to admission
06:28not only in the criminal law, which is to take the prisoners,
06:30but they can not enter the field
06:32never again the bars.
06:34Because it never happened
06:36that the right to admission
06:38is applied for disturbances
06:40outside the context of a sporting event.
06:42It's the first time it happens.
06:44That's why the statement of the Ministry of Security
06:46speaks to the claras
06:48that they have the right to admission.
06:50A resolution in the morning of the Ministry of Security
06:52indicating this that you marked, Leo,
06:54that it will be outside the general disposition,
06:56which is around the field,
06:58this will be specially applied
07:00for this march.
07:02If there are disturbances with bars,
07:04they can not enter the field.
07:06And I do not know what will happen,
07:08let's hope everything is in peace.
07:10It is not easy to predict
07:12if there will be bars or not infiltrated.
07:14Now, yesterday on the radio
07:16I did a tour of different clubs
07:18and many internal groups
07:20that surely some will be Killeristas,
07:22Peronistas, I do not know, from the left,
07:24they manifest that they have nothing to do with the bar.
07:26There are fans of Sorbellos,
07:28there are fans of Boca.
07:30There are many genuine fans.
07:32I tell you,
07:34by the forums that I follow from Chacarita,
07:36some who manifest that they were going to the march
07:38and others who did not.
07:40And they insulted each other,
07:42because some believed it as a political movement.
07:44Of course.
07:46There is a lot of political life
07:48in the clubs.
07:50It is very dangerous.
07:52Do you know why it is dangerous?
07:54I have the knowledge,
07:56I have been finding out since yesterday
07:58if it really is a self-convocatory
08:00of the bars,
08:02of the bars, of the violents,
08:04or if it is a self-convocatory
08:06of genuine fans.
08:08They go to the bar of Tigre.
08:10Horacio, do you know
08:12the fierce confrontation
08:14between Chacarita and Tigre between bars?
08:16As soon as they identify each other,
08:18no one can guarantee that
08:20they do not start fighting,
08:22and that what is said
08:24then leads to a confrontation
08:26between them in a context
08:28where there is a dignified demand
08:30for improvements for the retirees.
08:32That is why they are reinforcing
08:34the security measures
08:36and that is why they threaten
08:38the National Security Ministry
08:40with prohibiting access
08:42to Argentine football fields
08:44throughout the national territory.
08:46Because it is the way to stop it,
08:48because they stop them.
08:50Yes, yes.
08:52And also to apply the right of admission.
08:54With stopping them you do nothing.
08:56Because the next day you are on the street again
08:58and on the weekend you go to the football field.
09:00Now, what way of delegitimizing
09:02a fair, valid claim?
09:04What do the bars have to do
09:06in the marches of the retirees?
09:08This is like when we fight
09:10for diversity, respect for diversity
09:12or gender equality with a
09:14Sala miracle poster.
09:16Or a Palestinian flag.
09:18If the government issues a statement
09:20whose title is
09:22that today the bars go,
09:24in some way they also criminalize
09:26the protest.
09:28Because if the bars go,
09:30the government...
09:32But if the bars go,
09:34it does not criminalize the protest.
09:36It puts it in black and white.
09:38Yesterday I spoke, I repeat,
09:40with iron people,
09:42who laugh when you tell them
09:44what bar.
09:46There are no recognizable leaders
09:48of the bars that will accompany.
09:50Ready.
09:52The one who goes in good faith should not go
09:54so as not to invalidate others.
09:56But how are they identified?
09:58Leo, if it did not happen.
10:00But the leaders of the bars are identified.
10:02For example, the 12th.
10:04I, as a journalist, I know them.
10:06How is the Ministry of Security not going to know them?
10:08It's going to be part of the 12th.
10:10Maybe not the leaders, but it's going to be part of the 12th.
10:12They were worried about the retirees today,
10:14but last year I never saw them worried about the issue.
10:16They did not care about the retirees at all.
10:18And suddenly they came up with that agreement
10:20to fight for the retirees.
10:22Last Wednesday there were two bars.
10:24Chacarita and La Ferrera.
10:26The two bars present last Wednesday
10:28were Chacarita and La Ferrera.
10:30Today there are a lot of them.
10:32Now Luis, how do you know the cloth,
10:34especially the cloth of the ascent
10:36and also the first one?
10:38Who is here?
10:40You just provided the data of Barrio Nuevo.
10:42In a country with freedom and democracy,
10:44who does not have a father,
10:46a grandfather,
10:48who may be retired,
10:50and accompany him.
10:52And that person may also be a fan of the announcement,
10:54a fan of the coming.
10:56Is it a bar?
10:58A fan.
11:00But there is the debate we are having.
11:02But how do you qualify
11:04and how do you divide the fan of the bar?
11:06I think like you.
11:08How do you identify it?
11:10With justice.
11:12How do you identify it?
11:14With the right of admission that already exists.
11:16Not everyone who goes to the march
11:18is going to be a bar.
11:20Even if you have the shirt,
11:22not everyone who goes to the march
11:24is going to be a bar.
11:26It is very clear.
11:28If you have a football shirt,
11:30you do not necessarily have a bar.
11:32But if you go to a group,
11:34you have a bar.
11:36And a risk.
11:38You just told me
11:40that you are a sports journalist.
11:42I know all the bars.
11:44I know their faces, their names.
11:46And how do we naturalize something
11:48that is the invalidation of the crime
11:50within football?
11:52And I would tell you not only within football,
11:54because the bar has a business
11:56that is 360.
11:58And that does not stop
12:00and that is getting bigger and bigger
12:02and that leaves more and more money.
12:04Last week there was a threat
12:06in the headquarters of Unión de Santa Fe,
12:08in the door of the headquarters of Unión de Santa Fe,
12:10because Unión is applying,
12:12Unión as an institution,
12:14is applying the right of admission
12:16to the entire Unión de Santa Fe bar.
12:18What did the Unión bar do?
12:20With a signature,
12:22the Galliano brothers signed,
12:24last name,
12:26they left a grenade.
12:28The message was
12:30or we all go in or the next one explodes.
12:32And it has the signature
12:34with name and last name.
12:36It is not an anonymous message.
12:38They sign with name and last name.
12:40Here they give me data.
12:42Now we go to Estriones.
12:44They give me data.
12:46Leandro Capriotti,
12:48son of the former president
12:50of Luis Barrio Nuevo,
12:52mobilizes the bar
12:54being the head of the UDBA.
12:56Very clear Luis.
12:58Let's go to Carlos Estriones,
13:00who is in the place of the facts.
13:02The security forces
13:04what they did was
13:06absolutely fence
13:08what is the plazoleta
13:10which is in front of the Congress of the Nation.
13:12We just saw the last preparations.
13:14They are joining
13:16each of these fences.
13:18I insist on the information I gave you before.
13:20Forces are coming,
13:22all police forces,
13:24federal.
13:26They are coming to this place.
13:28We know that behind Río Bamba
13:30is the prefecture.
13:32A contingent of infantry
13:34of the National Gendarmerie
13:36is coming too.
13:38For now the traffic
13:40is normal, fluid.
13:42We remember that at 5 pm
13:44the arrival is planned
13:46in most of
13:48the march of Wednesdays
13:50that the retirees carry out.
13:52Some are already approaching this place.
13:54What do you tell me?