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00:44Week 5 of the NFL.
00:45We have Taylor Lewand back in his Spooktober hoodie or crew neck or whatever.
00:50Dad sweater.
00:52It is October and as we were talking about before the show,
00:54this is peak football time, but also peak your season.
00:56Like Spooktober is just your holiday.
00:58Yeah, it's everything and more.
00:59And it shouldn't just be my holiday.
01:00It should be everybody's holiday because if you love,
01:02if your president loves Thanksgiving or Christmas,
01:04this is the opening ceremony to all holiday season.
01:06So to buy into Spooktober is to buy into everything.
01:10And you watch a new scary movie every day?
01:12Not a new scary movie every day,
01:13but I definitely put something on the holiday theme every single day.
01:15Because you're a father.
01:16I'm a father.
01:17So Hotel Transylvania was on October 1, Spooktober 1.
01:20So got that whole thing done.
01:22Dan, do you buy into Spooktober yet?
01:23I'm starting to.
01:25At first I was like, what is he talking about a whole month of this stuff?
01:28This was a couple of years ago.
01:29Now, I kind of see it.
01:31I see the vision.
01:32Now, do you ever do, like, do you ever do spooky stuff like the Chiefs
01:37Titans AFC Championship game?
01:39No, but I can give you that.
01:41Is that spooky?
01:42That is spooky.
01:43Yeah, I could definitely put that on.
01:46If I put on the Bears double doink, would that qualify as Spooktober?
01:49Yes, yes, especially in your world.
01:51Just watch like your favorite team just losing.
01:53Is that spooky enough?
01:55Yeah, Cardinals-Titans 2021.
01:57That's a game that I would put on.
01:58That would be the scariest movie I've ever watched in my life.
02:00Will could put on the Illinois game for Mickey.
02:02No, no, the Big Ten Championship.
02:03It's constant, it's constant.
02:04That would be-
02:05That's spooky.
02:06Yeah, it's spooky.
02:07That actually might be too far.
02:08Right.
02:09That would be overblown.
02:10It's too spooky, but it is.
02:12And Dan, you said before the show, let's talk some ball.
02:15How are the records going?
02:16You guys, oh, you went-
02:17Spooky.
02:18Nine and five.
02:19Yeah, Will and I both went nine and five.
02:21I feel like this is week four, week five.
02:23That's right when you start to kind of figure out, okay,
02:26this is what these teams are.
02:28Throw out the preseason rankings,
02:29throw out what you thought before the season started.
02:32You have a couple teams that are like surprise teams
02:34that you didn't expect.
02:35We're starting to get locked in.
02:37Starting to get locked in.
02:38And you did say on the college football show today
02:39that you had a great NFL Sunday last week.
02:41I did.
02:42You're feeling good.
02:43I did.
02:44Will, how are you feeling?
02:45I feel solid.
02:46You know, I had an abysmal week one.
02:4727 and 33 doesn't feel the best on paper,
02:49but knowing Dan is having a good year the way I see it
02:51and I've spun it is I'm only four games back and-
02:54Iron sharpened tire.
02:55Yeah, what a week to just get back in
02:56and get a game or two up on Dan.
02:58Jerry, how are you feeling?
02:59Great.
03:00Incredible.
03:01Yeah?
03:02I'm with Taylor with the whole October thing.
03:03Yeah?
03:04Love it.
03:05Oh, yeah.
03:06You're bad at Jerry's?
03:07Love it.
03:08I was out on October and Halloween until I had a kid.
03:09Now I love it.
03:10Yeah.
03:11We're so bad.
03:12So bad.
03:13But then do you watch-
03:14Yeah, we're all parents here, so we have to be a little bit.
03:15But do you watch like adult scary movies?
03:16I'm still scared of Michael Myers.
03:18Good.
03:19That's good.
03:20That's a fair fear to have.
03:21It's a logical fear.
03:22Yeah.
03:23But then you have to watch it to get that adrenaline, right?
03:25Yeah, of course.
03:26I watch it all the time.
03:27Okay.
03:28I do feel very old and washed that we're all sitting here
03:29talking about our kids' Halloween costumes.
03:30Like, I feel like life has really hit us fast.
03:31No, but that's what it is.
03:32Halloween is fun for little kids.
03:33Yes.
03:34Then it sucks from like 14 to 18.
03:35Then it rocks again from 18 to 24.
03:36Rocks.
03:37And then it sucks again until you have kids.
03:38Yeah, unless you're an outlier like me.
03:39But yes, absolutely.
03:40But normal people, that's how it goes.
03:41Like when you were 26 with no kids?
03:42I had a kid, but yeah, I know what you're saying.
03:43Okay, when you were-
03:4424.
03:4524?
03:46Yeah.
03:47No kids.
03:48No kids.
03:49No kids.
03:50Yeah.
03:51I had a kid, but yeah, I know what you're saying.
03:52Okay.
03:53When you were-
03:5424.
03:5524?
03:56Yeah.
03:57No kids.
03:58I still was like-
03:59Okay.
04:00All right.
04:01Always Halloween.
04:02It's October.
04:03I would go to a haunted house also.
04:04Yeah.
04:05Oh, I do love haunted houses.
04:06Post-college, though, is like you get a little sad
04:07because college Halloween is so good.
04:08Yeah.
04:09Exactly.
04:10Yeah.
04:11College Halloween is the best.
04:12Okay.
04:13Let's get to the storyline games of the week
04:14presented by the Chevy Silverado.
04:15We will start with the game in England.
04:16The Jets at the Vikings, 9.30 a.m.
04:17Eastern on Sunday.
04:18The Vikings, minus two and a half.
04:19Will, I will start with you.
04:20You were high on the Jets last week a little bit.
04:22They look awful.
04:23Miscalculated.
04:24They look very bad.
04:25They look terrible.
04:26The Vikings continue to roll.
04:27You're also high on the Vikings.
04:28The Vikings are for real.
04:29I love the Vikings.
04:30Yeah.
04:31I love the Vikings.
04:32The question is going to be how are they going to
04:33handle themselves in London?
04:34The Vikings playing in London are three and O
04:35over their last win in 2022 with Kevin O'Connell,
04:38so that staff has some familiarity with it.
04:41But to go back to the Jets, I mean,
04:44they can't run the ball well.
04:46I feel like-
04:47Who is it?
04:48Coach Hackett?
04:49He's on me.
04:50I feel like they're just-
04:51There's nothing inspiring about the offense.
04:52Like, one week they get into it,
04:53they got the two back looks in the backfield
04:55where they're utilizing both.
04:56Last week, obviously, the weather played a factor,
04:59but they're trying to establish the run.
05:00They can't run the ball whatsoever.
05:02Very undisciplined team, 13 penalties.
05:05I'm going with the Vikings because they feel
05:08a little bit more dependable.
05:09They're a little more consistent.
05:11Sam Donnell, he's playing very well.
05:12I think he's getting himself in the MVP conversation.
05:16They can run the ball.
05:17Flores, I think he's going to, again,
05:19attack the running game.
05:21They struggle a little-
05:23Whoa, whoa, whoa.
05:24You don't feel good about it?
05:25I'm just hearing David breathe right now.
05:27I think he saw it.
05:28Because this could be like-
05:30It sucks that this was the first game.
05:32It seems like it's so obvious.
05:33Yeah, the Vikings are obvious, and they are so good.
05:36They're playing so well.
05:37They've only trailed for 3 minutes and 26 seconds
05:40all season.
05:41I know.
05:42And the 3 minutes and 20 seconds was against the Giants
05:44week one when they muffed a punt.
05:46Yeah.
05:47That's a great stat.
05:48But it's crazy.
05:49They're dominating.
05:50They dominated the Packers.
05:51They obviously let them back in the game.
05:52And you feel like they're too dominatory.
05:54This is one where they can slip up.
05:55I'm just always trying to find the moment where it's like,
05:57all right, sell high on this team.
06:00And I think the Vikings are a very good team.
06:02I think they're going to go to the playoffs.
06:03I think they're going to have a great season.
06:05So it's not like sell high on them for the rest of the season.
06:08It's just the Jets.
06:09I know that guy Aaron Rodgers.
06:11I know him like the back of my hand.
06:13When he feels cornered, when he feels like everyone's
06:16talking about the Jets, offense stinks,
06:19and there's communications.
06:20He was saying Cadent.
06:21They were having an argument about Cadents.
06:23It feels like no one's on the same page.
06:25That's when he's just like, I got this.
06:27That's it.
06:29Isn't this the –
06:30You're getting me.
06:31Dude, because I was sitting here and I was like –
06:33I'm going Vikings.
06:34I'm going Vikings.
06:35I was going to go Vikings too.
06:36But after everything Dan said,
06:37and he just starts with an immaculate stat.
06:38Yeah.
06:39You kind of just go, yeah, Aaron Rodgers is the man.
06:41And I feel like London is always the ultimate equalizer.
06:44Yeah.
06:45Teams that are hot kind of get a little cold.
06:46Teams that are cold –
06:47It's a weird spot.
06:48It's a weird place to be.
06:49It's going to rain probably.
06:50There's like 50% chance of rain.
06:52It's going to be cloudy and gray.
06:54That makes me nervous for Aaron Rodgers because he can't move.
06:57And spooky season too.
06:59Right.
07:00Right now, the period of time we are in the football season
07:02is now when all the people start whispering about hot seat, hot seat,
07:05because they're on the hot seat.
07:07Hackett's on the hot –
07:08Sorry, Hackett.
07:09Well, Hackett, I'm convinced Hackett might not even –
07:11they give him like a dummy headset.
07:13He's just talking to no one.
07:15Because Rodgers is doing it all himself.
07:17Yeah.
07:18But they're also without Morgan Moses.
07:20They're not protecting him well even when they do throw the ball.
07:23Yeah, they got the Penn State kid.
07:25You know Flores, he's like second in the league and dialing up early pressure.
07:29Like they're going to go after him.
07:30Yeah.
07:31I just – yeah.
07:32This is also the game – wasn't the – weren't the Vikings the square pick last week?
07:35Yeah, no.
07:36Will's been right about the Vikings.
07:37Yeah, he's been right.
07:38He's been right.
07:39It's a good feeling.
07:40He's been right about the Vikings.
07:41I'm going to take the Vikings, but I'm nervous about it.
07:42Yeah.
07:43Okay.
07:44I don't like my pick either.
07:45So I have a lot better opinions about other games.
07:47You are going with the Jets.
07:48I'm going to take the Jets, but I don't like it.
07:50Okay.
07:51Well, then we'll go to Sunday Night Football.
07:52The Cowboys at the Steelers.
07:53The Steelers minus two and a half.
07:54Jerry, I'll start with you.
07:55How are you feeling about your Steelers?
07:56Tough game.
07:57I was totally off last week.
07:58I thought that was a game they would dominate, and they played like shit.
08:01Down 17-nothing.
08:03Came all the way back at the end, but fell short.
08:06Tomlin always has those type of games year after year.
08:08But I feel good about this week.
08:10Not super confident, but listen, they're home Sunday night.
08:14That place is going to be rocking.
08:16There's no Micah Parsons out.
08:19Lawrence is out.
08:21Brandon Cooks is out.
08:22And they already have an abysmal run.
08:24Yeah, their run defense is bad.
08:26Steelers' pass for us is going to eat, so I'm going to take the Steelers.
08:29Dan?
08:30Yeah, I'm going to agree with Jerry on this one.
08:32The defensive – the defense for the Cowboys was already getting kind of bullied,
08:39and now they're missing their two best players,
08:41or we want to say two out of their three best players.
08:43I just think the Steelers are going to be able to run the ball here,
08:46and if they can run the ball, everything works for them.
08:49And I'm a little nervous about Dak because, like I said last week,
08:52if you look at the Steelers' first three weeks, they played not great quarterbacks.
08:57And Kirk Cousins is good, but it was his first game back.
09:00So I thought the Steelers' defense was a little bit inflated from everything
09:04that we saw the first three weeks.
09:06Came back to earth last week against the Colts,
09:09but this is like a focused Mike Tomlin spot.
09:12Maybe double renegade?
09:13Yeah, they could have had double renegade.
09:14Double renegade.
09:15Very rare, but they could.
09:16If they told me they did double renegade, I'd take it.
09:18Double renegade.
09:19They played renegade in the fourth quarter,
09:21and the Steelers always get a big play after it.
09:24We went to Steelers-Bears two years ago.
09:27They played renegade, instant fumble for the Bears, like instant.
09:30Sometimes they'll do double renegade.
09:32They'll play it back-to-back, and then it's like not even fair.
09:35Right, right, right, right.
09:36That's when T.J. does the face.
09:37They're putting Chico's in Jiu-Jitsu.
09:38Yeah, I don't know if this is a double renegade game
09:40because they do usually save it for big ones,
09:42but depending on how the game goes, they might hit the double renegade.
09:46Is there too many renegades in a row?
09:47No, no.
09:48They could hit a triple, quadruple?
09:50I played golf with T.J.
09:51He's like, when they play that renegade, he feels his blood rushing.
09:55And why don't they play it more often?
09:56It's crazy.
09:57No, seriously.
09:58They should play it before you play.
09:59In the building, in the building, it's fucking incredible.
10:02No, because you can't.
10:03If you use it too much.
10:04Yeah, you can't abuse it.
10:06Yeah, yeah.
10:07Even as an opposing team, when renegade comes on,
10:10the whole stadium goes crazy.
10:12It's crazy.
10:13It's like, wow, this is awesome.
10:14I can't believe this is not our stadium.
10:16So, Taylor, are you buying into the double renegade?
10:18Yeah, I like the double renegade.
10:19I like the Steelers in this one.
10:20The Cowboys are an interesting team to me
10:22because so many teams use the run game to open up their pass game.
10:25I feel like the Cowboys do it reverse.
10:27They just rely on Dak to, hey, you've got to throw it a little bit,
10:29and then finally they get the run game going.
10:31With the Steelers' defense, with T.J. Watt rushing the passer,
10:34I just don't see them getting going in a big way,
10:36and I love the whole thing about two of their three best defensive players
10:39being out for the Cowboys.
10:40I think the Steelers take this one.
10:42Justin Fields continues to have great percentages, completions,
10:45and I think Arthur Smith gives himself a job after this year.
10:48Oh.
10:49A coaching job?
10:50Maybe the Cowboys.
10:51Wow.
10:52I'm with them.
10:53I'm going Pittsburgh.
10:54I like run game.
10:55I like home field advantage.
10:57And even though Justin Fields, he only has three touchdowns on the year,
11:00like he's doing a good job of taking care of the football.
11:03Six.
11:04Yeah.
11:05Oh, yeah, six?
11:06Okay.
11:07Well, he ran three in.
11:08Got you, got you, got you.
11:09Got it.
11:10But, no, yeah, I like home field, and it's only two and a half points.
11:13I like the Steelers here.
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11:36So, poor Osmo.
11:38He finally lost.
11:39He went 3-0.
11:40He lost.
11:41I was correct.
11:42I saw that clip.
11:43I saw that clip.
11:44Yeah, you faded him at the right time.
11:45So, I don't know what animal is next, but I guess we'll see.
11:47Run it.
11:49All right, welcome back.
11:50Pro Football Football Show week five, Jerry's Picking Zoo.
11:56Unfortunately, I know you don't see him here today.
11:59Osmo, he lost last week.
12:10He gave us a loser.
12:11We shipped him out.
12:12He's done.
12:13Me and Malasek went to the Lincoln Park Zoo the other day.
12:16We're walking around.
12:18We spot this guy here.
12:20Cosmo, the gambling panda.
12:23Cosmo, not Osmo.
12:24He's gone.
12:25Cosmo, the gambling panda.
12:28We'll see if he can pick our game of the week.
12:31We got the Ravens versus the Bengals.
12:33So sad to see Osmo go.
12:35He was 3-1, but we couldn't have him on the show anymore.
12:38Those were the rules.
12:40Cosmo.
12:41Mr. Cosmo, the gambling panda.
12:44Let's go see who we're picking this week, buddy.
12:46Let's go.
12:51It's the Ravens.
12:53It's the Ravens.
12:55There's a theme here.
12:56There's a theme here.
12:57Every animal we've had on this show seems to go to the right.
13:00They seem to go to the right.
13:02It's the Ravens, but it's the Bengals too,
13:06but it was the Ravens first.
13:08And he left a treat on the Bengals.
13:10He can't see anything.
13:12Cosmo can't see a thing.
13:13Bengals, book it.
13:14We'll be back next week.
13:17The gambling panda.
13:19The gambling panda.
13:20Did you guys see the clip that went viral of an actual zoo
13:23that was painting dogs like pandas?
13:25Is that where that came from?
13:27Yeah, they got caught spray painting them.
13:30Okay, definitely not Osmo.
13:32It was Cosmo for the game of the week.
13:34The Ravens at the Bengals.
13:35Taylor, are you going to ride with Cosmo?
13:37Yeah, fresh slate, new dog.
13:39It's a panda.
13:41Sorry, new animal.
13:44I'm going to take the Ravens here.
13:46We were in the locker room yesterday,
13:47and I had some ridiculous stats about how the Bengals
13:49haven't covered in their last seven games against AFC opponents
13:52or something like that.
13:54The Ravens look good.
13:56They're moving the ball well.
13:57They've officially figured out a way to use Derrick Henry
13:59and utilize him.
14:01And without giving the ball 25 times a game,
14:04without just making Derrick Henry your entire offense,
14:07they are really finding a way to roll,
14:09and it makes me really excited for the Ravens' future,
14:11so I'm taking the Ravens.
14:12Dan?
14:13Yeah, I'm going to take the Ravens as well.
14:16I have a question for you guys.
14:17Derrick Henry, so you guys obviously are good friends with Derrick Henry,
14:19played ball with him.
14:22He might be the last running back to go in the Hall of Fame.
14:26I was thinking about this the other night.
14:27Whoa, Christian McCaffrey.
14:30Is he retired?
14:31No, but I'm saying the last running back to go in the Hall of Fame.
14:33Right.
14:34Is Christian McCaffrey going to keep playing?
14:36I think so.
14:37What if he doesn't?
14:38Then that's a big hit for white people everywhere.
14:41I agree.
14:42I'm just saying.
14:43So I was looking at it last night.
14:46There's a possibility,
14:48because of the way the running back position has gone,
14:50he could be one of, if not the last guy that we see reach 10,000 yards.
14:56He's, I think, 17 yards away, so he'll get it in this game.
14:59The list is crazy.
15:01The list of active leaders, like Joe Mixon, is 3,500 yards away.
15:08Ezekiel Elliott probably won't play for much longer.
15:10He's 1,000 yards away.
15:12We have to go down to maybe Jonathan Taylor,
15:14if he's featured back for the next five, six years, he could get it.
15:18But it's crazy to see what the running back position has done.
15:22It's more like we need to cherish Derrick Henry and what he stands for
15:27because he's a throwback in the modern day that we may never see again.
15:31I love that take.
15:32Yeah.
15:33I do too.
15:34It's crazy.
15:35Him busting open that run and hitting 22, 23 miles an hour.
15:38Dude.
15:39He still has it.
15:40He still has it.
15:41He still has it.
15:42But it's nuts to see what's happened with the running back position.
15:45So he has, I think he's five touchdowns away from 100.
15:49If he gets 1,000 yards and 100 touchdowns,
15:51I think he'll only be the ninth running back to ever do that.
15:53He'll be a Hall of Famer.
15:55Guys just don't play as long as him and have that production
15:58and stay as healthy.
15:59So it's a dying breed,
16:01and we need to just cherish the moments of Derrick Henry here.
16:05And this is year nine for him?
16:07This is year nine, I believe.
16:08Yeah.
16:09And his first two years, he really didn't stay in the field very much.
16:11Right.
16:12I mean, there's some guys that, yeah.
16:13Seven years of dominance.
16:14Like Saquon, if he plays for six years more, he probably will get there.
16:17But there's no guarantee now with the running backs.
16:19Right.
16:20Because the minute you hit 28, 29, they just ship you out
16:22and find someone younger.
16:24Yeah.
16:25If there's something to take away from this show this week,
16:26it's what you just said about Derrick Henry.
16:27Yeah.
16:28Cherish it.
16:29It's at the office when you're like,
16:30I wish people told you you were in the good old days.
16:31Correct.
16:32That's this moment here.
16:33Correct.
16:34Correct.
16:35That was great.
16:36Yes.
16:37So, shout out to the production team.
16:38I'm going to say Tom here.
16:39But Baltimore, 12 and 3 straight up in the last 15 as favorites.
16:434-1 against the spread in the last five versus Cincy.
16:46Just to go along with everything else these guys are saying,
16:48I'm also in Baltimore.
16:49Also, I know we don't do nerd stats, but I'll throw a nerd stat out there.
16:52DVOA, Aaron Schatz, who tracks it, he's been tracking it since,
16:56I think he's gone all the way back to 1979.
16:58The Baltimore Ravens are the second best 2-2 team he's ever tracked
17:03in those, whatever, 40 years.
17:06They're better than their record, is what I'm saying.
17:09They're 2-2, but they have been playing.
17:12They've been dominating games.
17:14They dominated that Raiders game, fell away.
17:16They almost won that Chiefs game.
17:18They're better than a 2-2 team.
17:20Yes.
17:21And your best player, leader, quarterback, Lamar Jackson,
17:24always getting on the podium and talking about how winning is the most
17:26important thing.
17:27I think that's big for them in their locker room.
17:29Yes.
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17:59All right, Dan, your playbook pick of the week.
18:01My playbook pick of the week is the Bears.
18:03Minus four at home against the Panthers.
18:05Now, these next five games for the Bears will tell the story of their season.
18:10They have a softer schedule coming up.
18:13They have to go 4-1, 3-2 at the worst, and it starts with the Panthers.
18:19Cael Williams is playing good football.
18:21If you're a box score watcher, you might be like,
18:23you're fucking making this up.
18:24I watch the games.
18:25I watch the tape.
18:26He's playing good football.
18:27He was the number one quarterback against the Blitz last week.
18:30He's making the throws.
18:32Still got progress to go.
18:33This is not a finished product here, but he's playing good football.
18:37The Bears' defense is too much for the Panthers.
18:39The Bears win this game in cover.
18:41Also, Cael Williams, if they cover this spread,
18:44he'll be the first number one overall pick to start 3-0 against the spread
18:49as a favorite since Eli Manning.
18:51That's a good stat.
18:52Pretty good company.
18:53Pretty good company.
18:54Pretty good company.
18:55That guy won two Super Bowls.
18:56Why were people giving him such a hard time about his celebration last week?
18:59It was goofy.
19:00Yeah, but Caleb Williams is kind of goofy.
19:02Yeah, but it was goofy.
19:03Listen, I'm not going to be – I'm biased, but I'm also going to be unbiased.
19:08We got to clean up the celebration.
19:10Got to clean it up.
19:12It was like jumping and doing a double fist pump.
19:15It was goofy.
19:16It's like 80s stuff.
19:17Yeah, it was goofy.
19:18You see old clips in the grainy film.
19:19You see the guys jumping up in the air.
19:21If I know Caleb Williams like I know Caleb Williams.
19:23He watched that tape.
19:24He's like, listen, got to clean that up.
19:25Goofy.
19:26And there's also 52 other guys you can bounce ideas off of too.
19:28Correct.
19:29Get him in a think tank.
19:30Get him in a brainstorm.
19:31I kind of like him just being himself.
19:33If he wants to be goofy, let him be goofy.
19:35But you say it's goofy.
19:37If you feel happy in the moment, that's what came out of his body.
19:39Right.
19:40You got to listen to your body.
19:41He wanted to be goofy.
19:42It was goofy.
19:43Did you see the house he bought?
19:44Yeah, nice.
19:45Beautiful.
19:46Real nice.
19:47Oh, my God.
19:4813 mil.
19:49Awesome house on the lake.
19:50Wow.
19:5113 million?
19:52Right on Lake Michigan.
19:53Wow.
19:54Beautiful.
19:55It's a home.
19:56Not an apartment.
19:57No, it's a home.
19:58It's a home.
19:59It's a stay.
20:00It's a compound?
20:01Yeah.
20:02He made a statement.
20:03You walk into that place, it's a home.
20:04It's not a house.
20:05It's a home.
20:06It's a home.
20:07I'll take the Bears.
20:08Okay.
20:09I'm riding with the Bears.
20:10I'm riding with my boy, Big Cat.
20:11There we go.
20:12This is a game where it's like, you know.
20:13Andy Dalton.
20:14I want to see him beat them.
20:15Andy Dalton hasn't beaten the Bears.
20:16One of the three teams he hasn't beaten.
20:17Bears.
20:18Bears.
20:19Yeah, I want to ride with BC.
20:20Because even if I drop this one, I'd rather just – I'd rather be in a foxhole with BC
20:23on this.
20:24There we go.
20:25I'm obviously biased, but I do think the Bears are the better team.
20:28And their defense has been – since Montez Sweat was traded to the Bears.
20:33So that's last nine weeks, eight weeks of last year.
20:36And then the first four weeks of this year, the Bears have been the fifth best defense
20:39in the NFL.
20:40Okay.
20:41Will, your playbook pick.
20:42The Commanders.
20:43Commanders at home.
20:44Last week I was talking about how they handle winning going into Arizona.
20:48They got a big win against Cincy.
20:49You don't like it, Dan?
20:50No, I want to hear what you have to say.
20:52Because this is one of those games I had as just like a big question mark.
20:55You're right.
20:56And I feel like the way Jaden Daniels is playing, everybody knows his stats.
20:59The team, they haven't punted the ball in the last three games.
21:01They've went on 16 consecutive scoring drives.
21:04I feel like just the place overall, the district.
21:08Dan Snyder, he gets out as the owner.
21:11They have new ownership.
21:12They found their front office that they wanted back and like.
21:14They found their coaching staff that they wanted back and like.
21:16And now they've hit on their franchise quarterback with Jaden Daniels.
21:19I feel like that place is on fire right now.
21:21and getting to come home after two big road wins for Washington.
21:25I, you know, I love the Commanders.
21:27Minus three and a half here.
21:28Taylor?
21:30I'm with that all the way.
21:31I think Jaden Daniels is special.
21:33I love the way he's taking care of the football.
21:35I think he is awesome.
21:38I don't think the Browns are very good either.
21:40The Browns are the worst vibes team in this.
21:42Worst vibes.
21:42And so much so that people are saying that like, hey, Deshaun,
21:46he looked pretty good.
21:46And he only threw for 176.
21:48So that's where they're at as an organization.
21:51Hard clippers on quit watch.
21:53Yeah.
21:53Big time quit watch.
21:55Oh, yeah.
21:55Yeah.
21:56Big time quit watch.
21:57That's tough.
21:58Nick Chubb is back, though.
21:59I don't know if he'll play.
22:01I was going to say, yeah, I saw that.
22:03Which will be a big boost for them when he does come back.
22:06They're a bad vibes team, but I watched a video yesterday of Nick Chubb
22:09showing back up at practice.
22:10You could tell that changed the vibes a little bit.
22:13Jack Conklin also probably back.
22:15OK.
22:16OK, that's big.
22:17I'm going to take the Browns plus 3 and 1 half.
22:21I don't like this pick at all.
22:25So Jaden Daniels is incredible.
22:27He is the guy.
22:28Like, he has been incredible.
22:31So, so good.
22:32Everything he does looks, he just looks calm.
22:34You know what I mean?
22:34He's got that CJ Stroud look of last year where it's like,
22:37the poise is there.
22:38The calmness is there.
22:40The thing that, the reason why I'm taking the Browns,
22:42and I think the Commanders probably win this game,
22:44but the Commanders have played some really bad defenses,
22:48and this is a better defense.
22:50And I think that maybe they make it a little bit harder for him,
22:53and it's not as perfect as it's been.
22:56And they get in more of a dogfight game that's a three-point game.
22:58So I don't like this pick at all.
23:00What's crazy with Jaden too is even when he's uncomfortable,
23:03his ability to just throw a missile in just the most awkward looking spots.
23:08Extend plays.
23:08Yeah.
23:09Question for you guys.
23:11Cliff Kingsbury, he notoriously, when he was the head coach of the Cardinals,
23:17his teams would start red hot, and then they'd fade.
23:20Do you think that that can be applied as to offensive coordinator
23:24Cliff Kingsbury?
23:25Or is it like, hey, all he has to worry about is the offense.
23:27That won't happen.
23:29I think culture comes to the head coach first.
23:31OK.
23:31OK.
23:32I think him being in the OC role, yeah, yeah, yeah.
23:35I think it's likely to see the Commanders do a little bit of a slide
23:40at some point in the season with the rookie wall and all of that.
23:43Yeah, because it just was clockwork.
23:45Where Cliff Kingsbury, September, they'd be 3-1, 4-0,
23:50lighten up the offense, lighten up the league.
23:52And then they would just, whoop.
23:53Defenses would figure out what he was calling,
23:55and it would just fall off a cliff.
23:56I don't think that's going to.
23:58That was a good pun.
23:58That was a good pun.
23:59I don't think that's what's going to happen.
24:01I'm just more curious if you guys have any insight into a head coach who
24:05then has to only worry about offensive coordinating.
24:08Does that make his job easier?
24:10Can he be better at adjustments, all that stuff?
24:12Yeah, I think so.
24:12And I think another example, too, is Artie Smith at Pittsburgh.
24:15In the head coach B&DQ, I never played for him.
24:18But every player that had played for him when I was their teammate
24:21spoke very highly of him and the way he kind of ran the operation.
24:24Yeah.
24:25OK, Taylor, your playbook pick.
24:26Yeah, my playbook pick.
24:27And I'm really still trying to figure out
24:29the concept of this section here.
24:31Because I was at the Miami Dolphins and the Patriots,
24:33and I realized to myself, I don't.
24:35That's a terrible game.
24:35Ugly game.
24:36Terrible.
24:37Ugly game.
24:37So I stayed away.
24:38It's whatever you're feeling.
24:39Right.
24:40And my feeling.
24:42Whatever you're feeling.
24:42Texans.
24:43OK.
24:44Against the Bills.
24:45Oh, we're switching playbook pick.
24:46Yeah, I said that right before we started the show.
24:48Got you.
24:48I said it, and I didn't make an announcement.
24:50I kind of just said it as a one-off.
24:51OK.
24:52The only person I really had to tell.
24:53C.J. Stroud, right dog.
24:54Tank Dell, dog.
24:55Neil Collins, dog.
24:56And Joe Mixon, there's a couple articles that came out last week.
24:59They were saying, hey, he's probably good to go,
25:01but we're going to hold him back one more week.
25:03This is the week he finally gets back so that offense is now fully,
25:06just going to be fully rolling again.
25:09The Texans are a team that everyone said
25:11were like contenders going into the season.
25:13And even though they're three and one right now,
25:15people are like fizzling out on them.
25:17Like maybe they're not who we thought they were type of vibes.
25:20The Bills played abysmal other than that one Josh Allen throw
25:23like across his body.
25:24They were bad.
25:25Bad.
25:26Really bad.
25:26Really bad.
25:27I like this game as an over.
25:29It's 47 and a half points, but I'm taking the Texans on this one.
25:32Dan?
25:33Question for you guys.
25:35This is why I love having you guys here,
25:36because I can get some insight in the locker room.
25:39How many points are the H-Town Blue uniforms worth?
25:42Oh, those are good.
25:43Are they worth any?
25:44I hate Houston, but those are good.
25:45So these are debuting, H-Town Blue.
25:49You're asking what the vibes will be like in the locker room.
25:52How many points?
25:52Yeah.
25:54Remember, gambling guys really like to gamble.
25:56Putting on a different uniform matters, right?
25:58It does matter.
25:59The storm tributes matter.
26:00It absolutely matters.
26:01Oilers uniforms last year against the Falcons.
26:03Will Levis all of a sudden went off.
26:05Detroit, just this last week against Seattle,
26:08where they're all black.
26:09Jared Goff literally played a perfect football game.
26:11Yeah.
26:11Was it 18 for 18?
26:13Are those?
26:13Here's what, I don't like them.
26:15OK, I'm taking the Bills.
26:17There we go.
26:18No, I like that.
26:20I got your knee-jerk reaction, I'm taking the Bills.
26:22I don't like the logo, it's too baseball to me.
26:24OK, perfect.
26:25Love that.
26:26I also think the Bills struggle against the run.
26:30The Ravens were a really bad matchup for them.
26:32The Bills have been very good against the pass.
26:34The Texans are going to want to pass.
26:36I think you get a bounce back from the Bills.
26:37Did you hear my note about Joe Mixon coming back?
26:39Yeah, I did.
26:39But I still think, I don't know.
26:42If you tell me Joe Mixon week one did no gloves,
26:46if it's that Joe Mixon, I would consider switching.
26:50If he's wearing gloves, I'm not.
26:52I'm not switching.
26:53And if you would have said you liked the uniforms,
26:54he would have probably switched.
26:56So this is really on you.
26:57But I got a real reaction from you, which I hate it.
26:59Yeah, I don't like that.
27:00I don't want you to think about it.
27:01I like the black, I don't like the H.
27:02It's not black.
27:04Give me the Texans.
27:05You want the Texans?
27:06I like the Texans.
27:07OK, the uniforms don't matter to you either?
27:09They do a little bit, but I like the uniforms.
27:10They have to matter.
27:12They always matter.
27:13But you like them.
27:14I like them.
27:14Yeah.
27:15All right, let's go to the fireball,
27:17rapid fire picks of the week.
27:19The rapid fire pick segment is presented by Fireball Whiskey.
27:22Will, if you could go ahead and take that for me.
27:23So many things make football great,
27:25and you know what the best thing is?
27:26Kicking the living shit out of your rival.
27:28Cheers, there's nothing better than kicking the shit out
27:31of your rival, taking a fireball shot.
27:33This week, we have the Ravens at the Bengals
27:34in an AFC North battle, and Fireball Whiskey
27:36is here to give you the spark to ignite that rivalry
27:38all season long.
27:40Grab your football buddy, buy around, and reignite
27:42that rivalry flame.
27:43It's also cold weather outside, and fireball always
27:45tastes good when it's hot.
27:46Warms you up.
27:46Warms you so low.
27:47All right, first game, Colts at Jags.
27:50Will, the Jags minus 2 and 1 half.
27:52Give me the Colts.
27:53I think the Jags are abysmal.
27:55Maybe no Jonathan Taylor.
27:57Were we out on the quarterback here?
27:58Yeah, but 100% Joe Flacco.
28:00I was going to say, were we out on the quarterback here?
28:01They've kind of kept it close to the vest.
28:03Do you have any more insight on Reddit?
28:05Do you think it's going to be Flacco?
28:06If it's Flacco, I think it's a no-brainer, Colts.
28:08I like the Colts anyway, even with AR.
28:11But I like the Colts here, man, especially if it is Joe Flacco,
28:14which it seems like it will be.
28:16There's just something about that savvy, that house money.
28:20Yeah, what he did last year with the Browns,
28:23now he's going to do it with the Colts.
28:24It seems like the playbook opens up for him,
28:26because he can operate in way more concepts than AR.
28:31I love the Colts.
28:33Dan?
28:33I think the Colts can make a run, too,
28:35if it's Joe Flacco the rest of the year.
28:37So you're completely out on Anthony Richardson?
28:39Yeah.
28:40Okay.
28:41You're going to try to make a point there or no?
28:43Yeah.
28:44I'm going to talk out of both sides of my mouth real quick.
28:48Doug Peterson, in weird quotes,
28:49he's been just a quote machine.
28:51That was terrible.
28:52He said this week, I have not lost the locker room.
28:55That means you lost the locker room.
28:56If you have to say, I have not lost the locker room,
28:59you've lost the locker room.
29:00Yeah.
29:01But here's why I'm going to take the Jaguars.
29:05Gus Bradley, probably the greatest right place,
29:08right time guy of all time.
29:10He was in Seattle for the start of the Legion of Boom,
29:13got a head coaching job out of that,
29:15has stuck around, bouncing around.
29:19Jalen Ramsey said when he was the coach of the Jaguars,
29:22Gus Bradley never changed anything.
29:23Whatever they ran week one, they ran week 17,
29:26never changed a thing.
29:28All cover three.
29:29All cover three.
29:30All cover three, main styles.
29:31Basically, he's a slump buster for a quarterback
29:35who's in a slump.
29:36Because it's like, you know what he's going to run,
29:38and there's going to be easy throws underneath,
29:40and it's just going to be there.
29:41So, the last four games that the Jaguars
29:44have played against the Colts and Gus Bradley's defense,
29:4624 points, 27 points, 31 points, 37 points.
29:50I think the Jaguars win this game.
29:51Taylor.
29:52Colts.
29:53I love Joe Flacco.
29:54I think the Jaguars.
29:55We talked about the spooky season of Lil' Hot Seat.
29:59Oh, I mean, he's beyond the Hot Seat.
30:01When you have to say, I have not lost the locker room.
30:03At 014, right?
30:04It's losing, you've lost it.
30:06And if you've lost the locker room,
30:08because there's been coaches that get fired,
30:09and all the players are kind of pissed about it,
30:10but this is one of those things, if you lose this one.
30:13I just think this is it.
30:13Maybe even the players are kind of being like,
30:15he got to go.
30:15Yeah, this is the one game where I think
30:17that they know what they're going to see,
30:18and Trevor Lawrence can maybe get a little bit
30:20out of his funk in this game.
30:22They're still a bad team.
30:23They're going to be a bad team,
30:24but I think this might be the week
30:26where they get a little bit of a reprieve.
30:29Okay, Dan, the Dolphins at the Patriots.
30:31The Patriots. Pass, pass.
30:33Yeah, this game stinks. Minus one.
30:34Oh, it's awful.
30:35Dolphins, Patriots, I said in the car ride
30:36from the airport.
30:36Does anyone have a coin?
30:37Does anyone have a coin?
30:38This is going to be my pass game.
30:39Does anyone have a coin?
30:40So this is all pass?
30:41No, I need a coin.
30:42Let's flip a coin.
30:43Everybody is injured.
30:44Let's literally flip a coin.
30:44Everyone's injured.
30:45Both these teams are the biggest bummer to watch.
30:47Yeah.
30:48It's a trash game.
30:49This game bums me out.
30:51Yes.
30:51They're looking for a coin at the moment.
30:53Can I, I'll just say.
30:54You know what?
30:55I'll go, all right, all right.
30:56Let's just do it this way.
30:57Will, I have a number behind my back.
30:59If you get it right, it will be,
31:01we'll all three of us will go Patriots.
31:04It's one or two.
31:06Two.
31:07We're going to go Dolphins.
31:09All right.
31:10You can't, this game, like, don't gamble this game.
31:14I know I shouldn't say that.
31:15Do not gamble on this game.
31:16If you are responsible.
31:17Do we go under?
31:18On DraftKings.
31:19I don't think we can.
31:2036 and a half.
31:21I don't think we can.
31:21Well, I think we can, like, if you do bad, maybe.
31:24Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
31:25Take the under.
31:26Take the under.
31:26I think that if everybody at the desk agrees
31:28that you can take an over-under in this game.
31:29Yeah, fine, fine, fine.
31:31All of us are taking the under.
31:32All of us are taking the under.
31:33That's perfect.
31:34That's perfect.
31:35That's way better.
31:36Because I actually do like the under in this game.
31:36Yeah, love the under.
31:38You have, Jalen Phillips is out.
31:39Obviously, Chu is out.
31:41The Patriots offensive line stinks
31:43and they lost their center, David Andrews.
31:45Like, this is a horrible, horrible game.
31:49Taylor, you were originally going to put this
31:50as your playbook pick.
31:51Why?
31:52Yeah.
31:54I viewed it as, like, a gotta have situation.
31:56Like, what teams have to have it this week?
31:58Both these teams do.
31:59I was going to say Dolphins
32:00because it's like, they're so bad on offense.
32:02They have to do something for the whole, for Miami.
32:05Literally, Tommy Smokes.
32:08Yeah, yeah.
32:09He smokes, walks in the door.
32:09Hey, what's going on with your Dolphins?
32:10He's like, we're fucking dead.
32:11Dead. It's over.
32:12They are dead.
32:13And they gotta score just some points.
32:15Yeah, he.
32:15And they have a good opportunity this week
32:16against the Patriots.
32:17They should run Wildcat with Tyreek and Jalen Waddle.
32:20You might as well.
32:21Old school Dolphins.
32:22Yeah, under.
32:23Where do you guys land on the,
32:24should the Patriots go with Drake May?
32:28Like, the argument is, you're a bad team.
32:33You're not going to get better.
32:34This season is kind of gone.
32:35You might as well get this guy some reps,
32:37get his feet wet.
32:39And then on the other side,
32:40it's their offensive line is so bad,
32:42you don't want to get him killed.
32:42Which side do you guys?
32:43I personally think you continue to stick with the plan
32:45because you had a plan before the season anyway
32:47of feeling like we're not going to be the best team
32:49and throw a Jacoby out there.
32:51And just because they start losing
32:52and they look abysmal,
32:53it's like, it's all going according
32:56to what you thought to begin with.
32:57So you might as well stick with the plan.
32:58Okay.
32:59But under across the board?
33:00You think you should get out there?
33:01I think like, you get the week 10, 11, 12,
33:04everyone's kind of hurt, slowing down a little bit.
33:05You throw him out there.
33:06Last couple of games,
33:07you know the playoffs are out of hand.
33:09If he starts to take a lot of hits,
33:10you just, hey, put Brissett back in.
33:12I used to be a big sit-the-guy.
33:14You're like a pre-season, all year long.
33:15Yeah, just pre-season.
33:16Pre-season for the next season.
33:17I used to be a big sit-the-guy person.
33:20Mark Slater changed my mind like five, six years ago.
33:23He was like, if he's never,
33:26if he wasn't going to be the guy,
33:27like getting in there and getting sacked a bunch,
33:29won't change him.
33:30He's like, that's a mental toughness thing
33:33that like, if he can't overcome that,
33:36he was never going to be the guy.
33:38And you might as well get-
33:39I mean, I can agree with that.
33:39It's a meathead thing, but I kind of agree with it.
33:41Yeah.
33:42I'm just saying it because it's like,
33:43hey, this was your plan all along.
33:45Like, why switch the plan now?
33:46Because you realize like,
33:47you were going to be a bad football team.
33:48Yeah.
33:49You're going to get the sacks out of the way
33:50maybe when it doesn't matter.
33:52Yeah.
33:52Like the season before.
33:53Okay.
33:54It's like what's happening with Bo Nix, I feel like.
33:56Yeah.
33:57Okay. Cardinals at 49ers.
33:59Taylor, the 49ers minus seven.
34:00Yeah. I'm thinking the 49ers minus seven.
34:02Even with Christian McCaffrey out,
34:04the offense looks great.
34:06I think that team is going to find themselves
34:07deep in the playoffs yet again.
34:09The Cardinals, I mean,
34:10you kind of said with Cliff Kingsbury,
34:11even though he's in the Commanders now,
34:13like they, that,
34:13what was the week one game they played?
34:17Cardinals.
34:18Kyler Murray looked amazing.
34:20He was running all over the place.
34:21They literally tried to sack like 15 guys.
34:22He broke like 15,000 to the end zone.
34:24I can't remember who they played.
34:26Who did they play?
34:26But I love, I love the Niners.
34:29I love their locker room.
34:30I love their leadership.
34:32I love their team.
34:33The Cardinals killed the Rams week two.
34:36Maybe that's what you're thinking of.
34:37That might've been it.
34:38That might've been it.
34:39That was the game that they beat them by like 30.
34:41And everyone was talking about Kyler Murray.
34:42Oh, they played the Bills week one.
34:43They lost.
34:44Okay.
34:45He looked good.
34:46You're thinking the Rams game.
34:47All right.
34:47Still got it.
34:49That was the memory thing.
34:50That was for you more than anybody else.
34:52I needed that.
34:53I needed that.
34:53That was a mental exercise.
34:54You threw me an alley-oop.
34:55I had to dunk it.
34:56I love the Niners.
34:57Stan, who are you taking?
34:58I love the Cardinals.
35:02Tell me why.
35:04Just a spot?
35:05Spot.
35:06Stat for you.
35:08Teams to lose by 17 points versus a team
35:10that won by 17 points are 60% against the spread
35:13last 20 years.
35:15So it's basically just the overreaction.
35:17And then teams to lose by 28 plus points the previous week
35:21and that are dogs by four points or more
35:23in their next game are 62%.
35:25Cardinals are a match for both.
35:29Not X's and O's.
35:30Just going on those stats.
35:31Yeah.
35:32Just math.
35:32And it makes sense in the fact that you overreact to one.
35:36You overreact to both games.
35:38And then you got to find the middle.
35:40Okay.
35:41Will?
35:42I like the Niners here.
35:43You are so good at stats.
35:43But the, Fortnite should easily blow them out.
35:46Like this doesn't really.
35:47For sure.
35:48It's not, I'm not, I'm not.
35:49It's not like a, when Spice was here
35:51and I had my strong opinion about the Panthers.
35:54It's not like a strong opinion
35:55Cardinals are going to win this game.
35:56It's just, I'm just going with overreactions and.
36:00Read the analytics.
36:01The margins in the NFL are a lot smaller
36:03than people realize.
36:04And no team is as bad as they look.
36:06And no team is as good as they look the previous week.
36:12I think I'm going to stick with the Niners.
36:13I'm going to stick with the Niners just because.
36:14That actually makes me really confident.
36:16You guys are overreacting.
36:17No, but I'm not.
36:18It's not like I'm confident
36:19that the Niners are going to blow them out.
36:20I just think that they're a team that,
36:22they were presumed the powerhouse of the NFC.
36:24And now you're talking about Tampa Bay.
36:26You're talking about the Vikings.
36:27You're talking about the Lions.
36:28You're talking about everybody else.
36:29The Niners aren't being the team talked about right now.
36:31And I think they know that.
36:32And they're still one of the better offenses in the league.
36:35Yep.
36:36No, their offense has been great.
36:37Yeah, they're going to still have that,
36:38that chip on their shoulder versus what they started off.
36:41How many did they win last year before they dropped one?
36:43I was like five or seven.
36:44Was it five or eight?
36:45They played Cleveland and then Debo got hurt
36:47and they lost three in a row.
36:48Right, and they're just not in that situation.
36:49They're sitting at two and two.
36:50I think they're feeling like they have a lot to prove.
36:53So that's why I like them over the Cardinals.
36:54Okay, Will, right back to you.
36:55The Raiders at the Broncos.
36:57The Broncos minus two and a half.
36:58This one's another weird one.
37:01I like the Broncos.
37:02I think Vance Joseph has that defense
37:03playing with their hair on fire.
37:05Yeah, the Broncos, they don't have much of an offense.
37:08Part of me feels like last week was such a weather game
37:11with the Jets that they couldn't get anything going.
37:14But I like the Broncos, man.
37:15I think the Raiders have too much going on.
37:16And Max, I know he feels confident in playing this week,
37:19but if you don't have Max Crosby on the field,
37:21they also don't have another linebacker, Diablo,
37:23who's a pretty good player.
37:24Best last name.
37:25If you're missing Max Crosby, and again,
37:27I know he's confident.
37:28What would happen if he'd maybe beat the Browns?
37:31Again, that's the Browns.
37:33We're talking about the Broncos.
37:34Okay.
37:35We're talking about Bo Nicks.
37:36We're talking about Bo Nicks.
37:38And the professionalism out there in Denver.
37:40I think they all like you.
37:41If you were Bo Nicks, there's professionalism.
37:43I think the drama going on with the Broncos.
37:45I think the drama going on with Devontae Adams, too.
37:48Again, I like the Broncos.
37:50Dan Lanning said good things about Bo Nicks, right?
37:52Great things.
37:53Let him babysit.
37:55That type of cat.
37:56Let him date his daughter.
37:57That doesn't mean he can play quarterback.
38:00Just keep, hey, that's the rookie going at it.
38:02He's taking his hits right now.
38:03Would you let me babysit?
38:04Get in the back.
38:05Would you let me babysit?
38:05Of course I would let you babysit.
38:06Do you think I could complete a pass in the NFL?
38:10Fair point.
38:11Very fair point.
38:12I'm with you, though.
38:13I'm taking the Broncos.
38:13Actually, this is the game where it wouldn't shock me
38:17if we get screwed and the Broncos win by two
38:20because the Broncos can't do anything on offense.
38:23Their defense, though, is very good.
38:25And more than anything, I'm taking the Broncos
38:27because without Devontae Adams,
38:29Patrick Chretien is a lockdown, lockdown corner.
38:32He's now going to their second guy.
38:34Everything gets easier across the board
38:36when you don't have a guy like Devontae out there.
38:39I'm taking the Broncos, but this game is gonna be ugly.
38:41Taylor?
38:42Yeah, I'm going with the Broncos as well.
38:44The distraction of Devontae Adams,
38:45him coming out, you were talking about guys
38:47being on quit watch.
38:48Yep.
38:49He's done it.
38:49Yeah.
38:50He's quit.
38:51He's over it, so.
38:52And the Broncos, obviously, playing in Denver
38:54is a really difficult thing to do,
38:56keeping your lungs in that situation's hard,
38:57especially when your team's down,
38:59you're losing the locker room a little bit, AP.
39:01And then the thought of Max Crosby not playing
39:03is terrifying for me, for Raiders country.
39:05Yeah.
39:06Okay, Dan, the Packers at the Rams.
39:08The Packers, minus three.
39:11I'm gonna take the Packers.
39:12I don't...
39:15Jordan Love, I was really excited
39:16for those first three quarters
39:17when he threw three interceptions,
39:19or two interceptions, then he threw a third later,
39:21but he's good.
39:24If you're going Packers, I'm right with you on this pick,
39:26because I don't feel like I'm seeing the field very well.
39:28I just think Jordan Love has gotten,
39:30he maybe shouldn't have played that game
39:32against the Vikings, he came out bad,
39:34but he found something at the end, and they caught fire.
39:37I know Christian Watson, I think, is out,
39:40but I just think the Packers, they're a good team,
39:44and the Rams are just a mash unit right now.
39:46They just got no one.
39:47Right.
39:48And knowing that Jordan Love didn't take a step back
39:50coming back from that MCL, I think he's gonna be fired.
39:52And you know, if Dan's taking the Packers, it's usually.
39:55Yeah.
39:56He doesn't want to.
39:57He doesn't want to take it.
39:57I would love to make the case to the Rams.
39:59I would love to make the case to the Rams.
39:59So he actually believes in that pick.
40:02I mean, everything saying Jordan Love,
40:04he probably played a game too early,
40:05but finding the confidence he did
40:07in the back half of that game,
40:08he says he feels great now.
40:10So Packers across the board?
40:11Packers across the board.
40:12Across the board.
40:13All right, Taylor, the Giants at the Seahawks.
40:15The Seahawks minus six and a half.
40:19Let me get the Seahawks.
40:20I just think the Giants, I have no trust in the Giants.
40:23Daniels, it's just bad.
40:27It's just really bad to me over there.
40:28I don't like it.
40:29I think the Seahawks are a feisty team,
40:32and they're gonna get after it.
40:34Dan, before you pick this one,
40:35this is gonna be my question this week.
40:37Okay.
40:38Am I seeing this correctly,
40:39that it just seems like-
40:41Yes.
40:42Crawling across the country.
40:42Correct.
40:43Six and a half, it's not like 10 and a half.
40:44Correct.
40:45It's definitely, I wanna make the case for the Giants,
40:49because the Seahawks just played a Monday night game
40:51where they, a shitload of snaps, their defense is injured.
40:56I wanna make the case for the Giants.
40:57I think I'm gonna have to do,
41:00I'm gonna have to have like a clause in my pick here.
41:02What is the clause?
41:03I'm taking the Seahawks,
41:06unless Malik Nabors plays, then I'm taking the Giants.
41:08I just don't, so I want, I looked at this game,
41:11and I was like-
41:12Malik Nabors is not playing.
41:13He's officially not?
41:14Oh, he's in concussion protocol.
41:15But he did have an extra day.
41:17He did have a couple extra days,
41:18because it was Thursday night football.
41:19Sometimes guys can come back from that.
41:20But, so yes, Will, you're exactly right.
41:23I saw this game, and I was like,
41:24I wanna make the case for the Giants.
41:26I just think if they don't have Malik Nabors,
41:28what is that offense gonna be?
41:28Right, yeah, they legitimately have no chance.
41:30Like, what is that offense gonna be?
41:31Because the Seahawks are a very good team.
41:33Right, and it's just like,
41:34if Malik Nabors can keep them in the game without him,
41:38who's beating anyone?
41:41No one is.
41:42No one.
41:43So that's my, if Malik Nabors plays,
41:44I'll take the Giants.
41:45If he doesn't, I'm taking-
41:46Asterix is there.
41:47Okay, Will.
41:48But you're right about it.
41:48Like, I wanted to take the Giants here.
41:50Yeah, because it feels so obvious for the Seahawks.
41:52It's like, man, maybe this is the spot you go Giants.
41:55I'm gonna go Giants across the board.
41:57So no claws, no claws.
41:58No claws.
41:59No claws.
42:00No Asterix.
42:00Even if it's dirty.
42:01Okay, all right.
42:02And then lastly, Monday Night Football, Dan.
42:04The Saints at the Chiefs.
42:05The Chiefs minus five and a half.
42:07I think I'm gonna take the Saints.
42:10The Saints' defense is good.
42:12Their offense has taken a step back.
42:14I don't, I'm worried a little bit about protecting Derek Carr
42:18because it definitely has looked like
42:20they got some injuries on the offensive line
42:22and it has gone backwards the last two weeks.
42:25But the Chiefs just don't play,
42:27they just don't blow teams out anymore.
42:29Yeah, and they lost Rice.
42:30Yeah, like they don't blow.
42:32His mom's out there stealing.
42:33Yeah, that was crazy.
42:34It's crazy.
42:35Yeah, that was crazy.
42:36Crazy.
42:37I'm feeling vinyl.
42:38The Chiefs are like,
42:39you have to like reimagine what the Chiefs are.
42:41They're not, they win games.
42:43They're still the best team in the NFL,
42:45but they're doing it with defense
42:46and like staying in games in the homes,
42:49just being in the homes at the end of the game.
42:51So I, yeah, I'm gonna take the Saints to cover.
42:53Chiefs to win the Saints.
42:54No, I like the Saints too.
42:55I took them on the locker room.
42:56I like the Saints here.
42:58I think they got a good shot in KC.
43:01Yeah, I'm going Saints.
43:02Taylor?
43:02I'm gonna go to the Chiefs.
43:04Patrick Mahomes press conference after
43:06just talking about how it's not about stats,
43:07it's about getting wins,
43:08and obviously they have wins,
43:09but the process has not been great.
43:11The way guys have handled themselves has not been great.
43:13Everyone's been throwing shade at Travis Kelsey.
43:15Is he washed?
43:16He's done, that's it.
43:17Like it just seems like when a team has won two Super Bowls
43:21and there's zero reason to have any chip,
43:23they're now manufacturing their own chips
43:25to have on their shoulders.
43:26I was gonna ask you guys this.
43:27Why did those guys wear like a tribute shirt
43:29to Travis Kelsey like he died?
43:31Did you see that?
43:32I don't know what happened.
43:33Like did you see that, Dan?
43:34Yeah, I did.
43:35Like why did they?
43:35Yeah, they were all wearing Travis Kelsey shirts.
43:37Like the players were.
43:39Yeah, before the game against the Chargers.
43:40Like in memory.
43:41Trying to boost the boy up, yeah.
43:43Yeah, that's good.
43:44That's exactly what I want.
43:45That's good vibes, yeah.
43:46That's what I want because I feel like
43:49people are starting to slowly be out on Travis Kelsey.
43:53Patrick Mahomes has been like,
43:54yeah, we're 4-0, but it's not good enough.
43:57And I just think with that type of concoction,
43:59you have a perfect locker room to be like,
44:01guys, yeah, the record looks good
44:02and we can feel good about that,
44:03but if we keep doing X, Y, and Z,
44:05we're gonna get got eventually.
44:06And they've proven year after year
44:08that they're a team that can keep the ship steady
44:11when things are not going their way.
44:12Yeah.
44:13Even though things are going their way.
44:14The locker room knows that that's being said,
44:16so they're almost trolling it,
44:17trolling to the wall.
44:19The wide receivers all wore this shirt
44:21before the game last week.
44:23This like Travis Kelsey shirt.
44:24Yeah, I love the Saints.
44:27Love the Saints.
44:28Yeah.
44:29Were you thinking about flipping?
44:30No.
44:31Okay.
44:32That's all right.
44:32I'll stand alone.
44:33I'll stand alone.
44:34I know my brain stopped for a second.
44:35I was thinking about my hot take.
44:36Oh yeah.
44:37I forgot.
44:38Okay.
44:39I have one.
44:40Do you want to go first?
44:41Yeah, sure, I'll go one.
44:41I was close last week.
44:42I was close.
44:43Hot takes?
44:44Who was the other undefeated team that-
44:47It was the Chiefs and the Vikings.
44:48Vikings, yeah.
44:49So three undefeated teams did lose.
44:55Pass.
44:57Najee Harris has his first 100-yard game.
44:59Oh, I like that.
45:00He has passed the Dallas-run defense.
45:02I like that.
45:03Hope so.
45:04Jerry likes that.
45:05You got a nice smile out of Jerry over there.
45:07I like that.
45:08I like that a lot.
45:10Taylor, do you have a hot take this week?
45:12Everybody's got like the wide eyes,
45:13like I'm like the teacher.
45:14Pass, pass back, pass back.
45:16Nobody wants to be called on by the teacher.
45:18I know, as a teacher.
45:20Jerry, do you have a hot take?
45:22Stewart's going to Super Bowl.
45:23Okay, that's-
45:24Okay.
45:26I'll go three touchdowns for Caleb Williams on Sunday.
45:28Three.
45:29Okay, three.
45:30I had a question for you guys.
45:31Have you guys ever played with an elite punter?
45:34Yeah.
45:34Okay.
45:35Brett Kern.
45:36Stress away.
45:37Brett Kern.
45:38What's the vibes on the sidelines
45:39with an elite punter?
45:40You're like, you don't want to punt, obviously,
45:42but when he punts, you're like, this is going to be awesome.
45:44Didn't they make like a hybrid for him?
45:45Yeah, it's like somebody's trying to strike a hole in one.
45:47Yeah.
45:48You're like, man, look at him out there.
45:49Okay.
45:50What a punt.
45:51Because Tory Taylor is like,
45:51I don't know if you guys saw,
45:52but he had five punts within the 20,
45:56and he kicked one that was 66 yards to the eight yard line.
45:59Yeah, it's amazing.
46:00It was-
46:01And they made a highlight reel.
46:02A highlight, high video.
46:03And like, people obviously are like,
46:04oh, well, Caleb Williams said before the season
46:05he's not going to have to punt much.
46:06Like, I get excited when he punts.
46:08Yeah, you do.
46:09I do.
46:10I'm like, how far is this one going to go?
46:11Guys, let's see him flip the field.
46:13I think I can honestly say,
46:14I never watched a punt live.
46:16Not once.
46:18Not one time.
46:19I guess, like, it's probably different
46:21for the offense versus the defense.
46:22You're on the other side.
46:22You're on the field for the punts.
46:25Yeah, you guys, you're on the, yeah.
46:26I'm jogging down like, fuck, what a punt.
46:28You're running off being like, fuck, we failed.
46:30Yeah, we failed.
46:31Yeah, yeah, yeah.
46:32I would assume the offense doesn't like punts
46:34as much as maybe, like, the defense or the special teams.
46:36I gotta say, I fucking love when he punts.
46:39I don't want him to punt, but when he does-
46:41You like it.
46:42Damn.
46:43If you're going to punt, you want a good punter.
46:44Yeah.
46:45And you've got one.
46:47Your hot take, Taylor.
46:49Will Levis will still find a way to go viral
46:52on a bye week.
46:53That's my hot take.
46:55For good or bad reasons.
46:56That's a good hot take.
46:57Either one.
46:58Took me a minute, came right there.
46:59That's my hot take.
47:00That's what you landed on.
47:01You were happy about that one.
47:02Okay, so survivor pool picks.
47:04Only Jerry and Dan are alive.
47:06Will, you're God-awful.
47:08You've just lost every week.
47:09I suck so bad.
47:10How is this possible, dude?
47:11Since I started this show,
47:11I've lost every survivor pool pick.
47:13The Stuhlvivor, anytime touchdown,
47:15I've lost every one of those.
47:17I can't find a win anywhere.
47:18I truly, yeah, I suck.
47:20I suck at survivor pool.
47:22Taylor, this is now the third time
47:23we've restarted in week five.
47:24Like, it's been that bad.
47:26Like, there was one week where they all lost,
47:28so now only Jerry and Dan are alive.
47:30You guys both took the 49ers.
47:32Last week, who are you taking this week?
47:33I'm in trouble because I was gonna take the Seahawks,
47:35but I've already taken them.
47:36Yeah, so you've taken the Seahawks,
47:37the Ravens, the Bengals, and the 49ers.
47:39Boy, you know what, I'll take the Bears.
47:41Okay, the Bears.
47:42Bears are gonna win that game.
47:43And then, Jerry, you've taken the Vikings,
47:44the Chargers, the Bucks, and the 49ers.
47:47I'll take the Jaguars.
47:48Ooh, so this is for another point.
47:50Jerry's got one point on us.
47:51Jerry has one point, yeah.
47:53And, hey, look, Jerry usually picks some, like,
47:57risky plays, and he hits them.
47:59Yeah.
48:00I like that, yeah.
48:01It's been a bloodbath.
48:02Yeah, Will, have you gotten one right?
48:05No, no, I legitimately haven't.
48:07I had Mexican last night.
48:10It came out in the Will Compton Museum earlier,
48:12and I just looked down, and I'm like,
48:13there's my survivor pool right there.
48:15Why, every time to finish the show,
48:16you guys have to be disgusting?
48:18Oh.
48:20Also, again, reminder that there are a,
48:22like, we have new social handles for this show,
48:24so if you wanna catch all these types of moments,
48:25go follow that.
48:27Anything else, guys?
48:27No, great show.
48:28Great show.
48:29Love doing it.
48:30Always fun, always fun to be here.
48:31Yes, let's win them all.
48:32Happy Spooktober, yeah, let's win them all.
48:33We'll see you guys next week.