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SC nullifies previous verdict regarding Article 63A of Constitution | Waseem Badami's Report

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00:00In the name of Allah, the most Gracious, the most Merciful.
00:13Peace be upon you.
00:14Today, a very important decision has come from the Supreme Court of Pakistan, which
00:17will certainly have an impact on the politics of Pakistan.
00:20It is possible that the effects of this decision will be seen in the near future.
00:24This decision has sparked a debate.
00:26We will talk about it.
00:27The various questions that are arising as a result of this decision.
00:31Someone says, sir, what was the hurry in making this decision?
00:34If you had made the decision a few days later, then this would not have happened.
00:37Who knows, using this decision, the government may benefit.
00:39So, it was said in front that brother, hurry?
00:41It has been in progress for two years.
00:43Where is 2022, where is 2024?
00:45The decision had come then, the second look is happening now.
00:47So, what is the hurry?
00:48How much longer will it take?
00:49There are many more things.
00:50The second thing that we are talking to you about.
00:51The Pakistan Delegation has announced a protest on D-Chowk on October 4th.
00:55Ali Ibn Ghandapur has said that you must definitely reach.
00:58And press conferences have been held at a high level so that this should not be done.
01:01International activities are going on in Islamabad.
01:03The Shingai Coordination Organization is to be held.
01:05The head of the country has to come.
01:07The head of Malaysia has come.
01:09There are still news that the PTA is being communicated that you should not do it.
01:12How far will that thing reach?
01:14Will there be a Jalsa?
01:15If not, what will happen?
01:16If not, what will happen?
01:17We will talk about this in the second part of the program.
01:19First of all, you see this.
01:20This was the case of Article 63A.
01:22We have already explained its background to you yesterday.
01:25It is a part of the Pakistani constitution.
01:27According to which, if a member crosses the floor,
01:30votes against the policy of his party,
01:33then that member washes his hands of his seat.
01:37But the Supreme Court of Pakistan gave this decision about two years ago.
01:40No, sir.
01:41He will wash his hands of his seat.
01:43His vote will also not be counted.
01:45When this decision came at that time,
01:47that decision immediately had a political effect.
01:49Just like a decision has come today.
01:51It is not surprising that this decision immediately has a political effect.
01:53At that time, a decision had come,
01:55which had a political effect.
01:57Hamza Shahbaz Sahib, the Prime Minister of Punjab,
01:59had been elected with the help of some members of the PTI.
02:04And when this decision came,
02:05then that help was returned.
02:07When the help was returned,
02:08then the balance was lost in Aiwan.
02:10They missed the number.
02:11Hamza Shahbaz Sahib fell into power.
02:13Then Parvez Ali Sahib became the Prime Minister.
02:15So even at that time, this decision had a political effect.
02:17Even today, this decision can have a political effect.
02:20This is a brief summary of today's hearing.
02:22And then we will talk to the guests related to this case.
02:26One is the representative of Pakistan Dariya-e-Insaf,
02:28Mr. Barrister Ali Zafar.
02:30He said again today,
02:31that the formation of this bench is not correct.
02:33That is why we cannot be a part of the judicial process.
02:37Why do they not agree with the formation of this bench?
02:40Chief Justice said on this.
02:42Mr. Ali Zafar, you are making a ridiculous statement.
02:45You are a senior lawyer.
02:47You are the former president of the Bar.
02:49Mr. Ali Zafar said,
02:50I want to say something on behalf of Bani PTI.
02:52Mr. Ali Zafar was allowed to meet yesterday.
02:55He had come with instructions from Imran Khan,
02:57the ruler of Chittor.
02:58Mr. Ali Zafar said,
02:59I want to say something.
03:00The thing is that the government wants to bring some reform.
03:03When he said this,
03:04Qazi Faisal Sahib said,
03:05you are having a political discussion,
03:07so that there is a headline tomorrow.
03:08Mr. Ali Zafar said,
03:09it seems that it will be said in a sarcastic way,
03:13that the headline is still there.
03:15And today's headline is that
03:17Bani Tarmeem is necessary before 25th October.
03:20Qazi Sahib has to retire on 25th October.
03:22So this is what Mr. Ali Zafar said.
03:24Mr. Faisal said,
03:25we do not know about this.
03:27After that,
03:28Bani Tariq Insaaf's lawyer Mr. Ali Zafar
03:30boycotted Samad.
03:32The Supreme Court appointed Mr. Ali Zafar
03:33as a legal advisor.
03:35Today, on social media,
03:36some people of PTI,
03:38in fact, many people,
03:39seem to be criticizing Mr. Ali Zafar on this.
03:41Why did you become a legal advisor?
03:43When our leader had said that it is a boycott,
03:45then it should have been boycotted.
03:46You should not have become a legal advisor.
03:48Anyway, Mr. Ali Zafar said,
03:50Sir, the government is bringing a judicial package for you.
03:54If you give this decision,
03:56which was later given,
03:57then this will be the permission for horse trading.
03:59The Chief Justice replied to this.
04:01Mr. Ali Zafar,
04:02now you are crossing the limits.
04:04We can give you a notice of insult to the court.
04:06This is a very big statement.
04:08We will not give you permission for such a thing.
04:10Another judge,
04:11Justice Jamal Mandoor Khail, said,
04:12how can you say that we are giving permission for horse trading,
04:15Chief Justice said,
04:16and this is the background of this,
04:18when we are telling you the next statement,
04:20that the decision had come that
04:22if a person votes,
04:23then the vote will not be counted,
04:25but the seat will go as a punishment.
04:27It will go.
04:28Chief Justice said,
04:29a person just keeps thinking that
04:31I will kill such and such person,
04:33but if he does not do it,
04:34then will there be a punishment?
04:35Should I think of breaking that red sign,
04:38then will I be punished?
04:40Justice Jamal said,
04:41the right to vote belongs to the parliament.
04:44How can this right belong to the political party?
04:46Ali Zafar said,
04:47whether to vote for the Assembly or not,
04:49the parliamentary party gives the instructions.
04:51If you do not follow the instructions,
04:53the party can send a reference of the headless person.
04:56So Chief Justice said,
04:58according to this,
04:59voting against the party will be counted.
05:01No one will vote against the party.
05:03The vote will not be counted.
05:04The seat will also go.
05:06Ali Zafar said,
05:07referring to the original decision,
05:09that sir, it was written in that decision,
05:11that in the decision of Article 361,
05:13that horse trading is a cancer.
05:16Ali Zafar said,
05:18these words were misused in the decision.
05:21The judge can only decide
05:22whether something is legal and legal or not.
05:24There is no medical officer of the judge
05:26to tell what is cancer and what is not cancer.
05:29Justice Naeem said,
05:30why did the PTI not legislate
05:32about not counting votes in its time?
05:35I mean, if the PTI thinks that this is such a bad law,
05:37then in its time,
05:38this law would have changed the law.
05:40Justice Naeem said,
05:42Tehri was about to lose its credibility.
05:45At that time,
05:46a reference was issued in the Supreme Court
05:48and the court was tried to use it.
05:51Justice Naeem also said,
05:53the amendment that you could not do through the parliament,
05:55you got it done through the judges.
05:57Isn't it enough for Nazir Sani
05:59to rewrite the constitution?
06:01And finally,
06:02this decision came today.
06:04And now,
06:05the whole situation is in front of us.
06:07We just move forward quickly.
06:08And two great scholars are with us.
06:10Nazir Sani was appealed.
06:12And his decision has come today.
06:14Nazir Sani,
06:15along with others,
06:16filed this case.
06:17This is the Supreme Court Bar Association.
06:19Of course,
06:20it is a very relevant institution.
06:21And he filed this case.
06:22And on the Supreme Court Bar's side,
06:24this case was also fought in the court.
06:27Mr. Shehzad Shaukat,
06:28since you are the president of the Supreme Court Bar Association,
06:30he is with us.
06:31I am very thankful.
06:32Thank you very much, sir,
06:33for your time.
06:34Mr. Shahbaz Khosa,
06:35is the Additional Secretary
06:36of the Supreme Court Bar Association of Pakistan.
06:38Mr. Shahbaz,
06:39thank you very much for your time.
06:40Mr. Shehzad,
06:41first of all,
06:42tell us,
06:43yesterday,
06:44a respected lawyer,
06:45Mr. Abid Zubairi,
06:46said in our program,
06:47that,
06:48sir,
06:49this is the reason
06:50why the Supreme Court
06:51should not have heard this case.
06:52It was time bound.
06:53The Supreme Court Bar Association,
06:54the original decision,
06:55for three weeks
06:56or one month,
06:57whatever the time is,
06:58it did not go inside it.
06:59There is a time.
07:00You have to give Nazir Sani inside it.
07:01The Supreme Court Bar was late.
07:02So,
07:03it should not have entertained.
07:04First,
07:05if you give a quick answer to this,
07:06then we will come to the real thing.
07:08Yes,
07:09it is like this,
07:10that,
07:11the limitation,
07:12of giving Nazir Sani's request,
07:15in the law,
07:16it is 30 days.
07:17Correct.
07:18Not three weeks.
07:19Correct.
07:20And,
07:21it is also correct,
07:22that this petition,
07:23probably,
07:24three days,
07:25was more than this.
07:28Correct.
07:29That is,
07:30on the 33rd day,
07:31this file was filed.
07:32Yes.
07:33But,
07:34with this,
07:35there was a request,
07:36that,
07:37this delay,
07:38should be condoned.
07:39And,
07:40its basis was,
07:41that,
07:42actually,
07:43a detailed judgment is waiting,
07:46that,
07:47the details of the decision,
07:49should be read,
07:50and then,
07:51a decision should be made,
07:52that,
07:53Nazir Sani's request,
07:54should be given or not.
07:55Right.
07:56Now,
07:57in this case,
07:58today,
07:59what has come to light,
08:00is that,
08:01the majority judgment,
08:03of Justice Modi Bakhtar,
08:05was,
08:06probably,
08:07on the 14th of October,
08:09it was supplied,
08:10to the Office of the Supreme Court.
08:12Right.
08:13Before that,
08:14the two,
08:15decisions,
08:16of disagreement,
08:17between,
08:18Justice,
08:19Jamal Khan Mando Khail,
08:21and,
08:22Justice Mazhar Alam Mian Khail,
08:24probably,
08:25before that,
08:26they were,
08:27sent,
08:28to the office,
08:29that,
08:30these are our disagreement decisions.
08:32Right.
08:33And,
08:34it is obvious,
08:35that,
08:36if the details,
08:37of the majority judgment,
08:38would have come to light,
08:39then,
08:40to include,
08:41Nazir Sani,
08:42it would have been,
08:43difficult.
08:44So,
08:45you are waiting for that,
08:46which took a lot of time,
08:47and then,
08:48you didn't take the initiative.
08:49Obviously,
08:50it took a lot of time,
08:51the Supreme Court,
08:52formally,
08:53presented its explanation,
08:54and,
08:55that explanation,
08:56was accepted,
08:57and,
08:58our delay,
08:59in filing,
09:00that,
09:01that,
09:02that,
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