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00:00First of all, let's talk about the I.N.I.C.O.U.R.T.
00:02Mr. Fawad, all stakeholders are on board on the I.N.I.C.O.U.R.T.
00:05except for Mr. Tariq-e-Insaaf.
00:07How will they stop them?
00:09Because the government has somehow convinced Mr. Maulana.
00:12Mr. Emil Wali is also with them.
00:14People's Party, PMLN are openly with them.
00:16So, what will the PTI do to stop the I.N.I.C.O.U.R.T.?
00:19Look, Maria, first of all,
00:21this I.N.I.C.O.U.R.T. or the rest of the reforms,
00:24neither you have seen it, nor have I seen it,
00:26nor has Mustafa seen it.
00:28We only know that there were 3-4 drafts.
00:31And Azam Nazeer Tariq-e-Insaaf said on one draft,
00:35that I have got this.
00:37Although, obviously, the law minister drafts,
00:40but luckily, even the law minister does not know.
00:42Even Mr. Darg has not seen this draft.
00:44Mr. Darg has not seen the draft.
00:46So, this draft, whoever has made it,
00:48when they show it,
00:50obviously, there can be a lot of detail on it.
00:52But look, the concept of the Constitutional Court,
00:56first of all, in these common law countries,
00:58apart from South Africa,
01:00in any other country,
01:02where there is an adversarial system,
01:04or where the British system,
01:06to make it easier to understand,
01:08there is no Constitutional Court.
01:10The reason for that is, for example,
01:12look, your salary has been taxed.
01:14Now, I am challenging that tax,
01:16by going to the Supreme Court.
01:18Now, that statute is also an issue,
01:20but your fundamental rights are also an issue.
01:22So, where will I go?
01:24The most horrifying thing in this,
01:26is the power of Article 199.
01:28All the lawyers,
01:30we go and tell them,
01:32to file a writ.
01:34The writ is practically finished.
01:36Because you have added two or three things.
01:38First, you said, if there is a national security issue,
01:40then the writ is already over.
01:42Then you said that the lawyers,
01:44the judges,
01:46we will review them every year,
01:48that too on the source report.
01:50And on the source report,
01:52you can sell the house,
01:54or outside the province.
01:56You can't even sell the SHO in Punjab or Sindh,
01:58outside the province.
02:00So, the practice of the lawyers,
02:02is practically finished.
02:04The third thing is,
02:06even if you bring an amendment,
02:08you are saying,
02:10the biggest argument of the government,
02:12is that these cases,
02:14are stuck in the hands of common people.
02:16Right.
02:18Right now, there are 57,000 cases,
02:20pending in the Supreme Court.
02:22And there are 46,40,000 cases,
02:24pending in the lower courts.
02:26So, for the 46,40,000 cases,
02:28which are pending,
02:30you are not doing anything.
02:32For the 57,000 cases,
02:34and secondly,
02:36in the Constitutional Court,
02:38the decision of the Supreme Court is final.
02:40Now, every case,
02:42which the Supreme Court will decide,
02:44will also go to the Constitutional Court.
02:46So, it's a total mess-up.
02:48There are two courts,
02:50and they keep giving stays against each other.
02:52They keep giving decisions against each other.
02:54I am talking to a law expert.
02:56So, there is a constitutional crisis there as well.
02:58Will this happen in North Korea?
03:00Most probably.
03:02Our model is North Korea.
03:04North Korea has a constitution.
03:06Kim Il Sung.
03:08Kim Constitution.
03:10But the situation is,
03:12as Bilawal said yesterday,
03:14all these constitutional cases,
03:16they take a lot of time from the courts.
03:18And the cases of the common people,
03:20they give very little time.
03:22And this is true to some extent.
03:24For the past two and a half years,
03:26the crises that the politicians
03:28themselves have to solve,
03:30they don't do it.
03:32The case goes to the courts.
03:34Take the Punjab elections for example.
03:36There is still an election.
03:38There is no election.
03:40There are special sessions.
03:42Where is this constitutional crisis
03:44coming to them?
03:46This is true to some extent.
03:48For the past three or four years,
03:50I will go back even further.
03:52From the time of Saqib Nisar,
03:54from the time of Iftikhar Chaudhary,
03:56the tradition that we have,
03:58has made politics so complicated.
04:00People's grievances have increased so much.
04:02Instead of the Supreme Court
04:04being the institution
04:06where people go for the resolution
04:08of their problems,
04:10or political parties go for the resolution
04:12of their problems,
04:14biased decisions have been made there.
04:16So our country has a complete history
04:18in this regard.
04:20And now politics has reached the stage
04:22where political parties
04:24refuse to accept each other's existence.
04:26If you look at Tehreek-e-Insaf,
04:28they do not consider the Muslim League Noon
04:30and the People's Party
04:32as legitimate stakeholders in this system.
04:34They say we don't want to talk to them.
04:36The work of the governments
04:38in the Jamaat-e-Hakumat is
04:40to create an atmosphere
04:42and reduce political tensions.
04:44The Jamaat-e-Hakumat
04:46is persecuting us to such an extent.
04:48What has happened
04:50to political workers
04:52in the last 2.5-3 years,
04:54I think we used to think
04:56that this time has passed from Pakistan
04:58and it will not happen again.
05:00But we have started
05:02to deteriorate so much
05:04that now
05:06Fawad is sitting with us
05:08and there are other people
05:10with him.
05:12So we have made politics
05:14meaningless.
05:16The effect of this
05:18is not
05:20good for
05:22national unity.
05:24Politics
05:26has become meaningless.
05:28People do not understand
05:30that the Parliament is the solution to our problems.
05:32People do not understand
05:34that political parties can solve our problems.
05:36People are disappointed.
05:38We are not ready
05:40to solve our problems.
05:44The failures of politicians
05:46are there in their place.
05:48But you cannot deny
05:50that the establishment
05:52has an oversized role in politics.
05:54It is a country of 25 crore people.
05:56The aspirations of the personalities
05:58and their self-interests
06:00have reached
06:02their peak
06:04on both the constitution
06:06and the national system.
06:08Fawad has explained
06:10the constitutional amendment
06:12very well.
06:14But the bottom line
06:16is that Qazi Faiz Issa
06:18is being tried to retain.
06:20This is the reality.
06:22The whole world is aware of this.
06:24To increase the age
06:26and to bring him
06:28to the constitutional court
06:30is a very...
06:32I think Maulana
06:34has strong grievances
06:36that this should not happen.
06:38When he negotiates,
06:40this should not happen.
06:42I think Bilawal and Maulana
06:44should ditch Faiz Issa.
06:46This is Bilawal's wish.
06:48Bilawal's speech
06:50and Maulana's speech
06:52have reached a consensus.
06:54I think Faiz Issa
06:56is being casual.

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