Has Maulana Fazlur Rehman received constitutional amendment draft?

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00:00Is there any compromise? I want to ask the government about it.

00:02Yes, there is a compromise.

00:03Where is it?

00:04Give it to us, we will read it.

00:05I will give it to you.

00:07There is no secret in it.

00:10It was a big secret last time also.

00:12I was calling a member last night.

00:14I asked him to give me a compromise.

00:15He said, we don't know.

00:16Look, from day one,

00:19the 3-4 options that I mentioned,

00:23when there is a whole procedure,

00:25first our homework should be completed,

00:27first we should have our discussions,

00:29then you saw that we have to go to CCLC,

00:32then it will be approved in the cabinet.

00:34First, we had a discussion with the allies,

00:36our allies are on board.

00:38Along with that,

00:39we had an in-principle agreement with Maulana Sahib

00:42on everything.

00:43It is not that it is not there,

00:44and it is still there.

00:45He said, I didn't see any compromise.

00:46What was the agreement on?

00:47I was sitting with Maulana Sahib for 2 hours.

00:50He said, sir, we got a compromise.

00:52The law minister gave him a detailed briefing twice.

00:55He said, the compromise was in our hands at 1.30 pm.

00:58But the briefing was given to him.

01:00Because we are bringing the constitutional amendment.

01:02Sir, when we saw the compromise,

01:04we found out how serious it was.

01:07We couldn't have supported it.

01:09Look, when he said he couldn't support it.

01:11Mr. Kamran Murtaza is with me.

01:12I will come back to you.

01:13Mr. Kamran Murtaza, can you hear me?

01:15Sir, can you hear me?

01:16Yes, I can hear you.

01:17Sir, tell me, did you get the compromise?

01:22Did you get it?

01:24Compromise?

01:25What compromise are you talking about?

01:27Will there be a new compromise between the government and the People's Party?

01:32No.

01:33There was a compromise between the government and the People's Party.

01:36It was on a Friday night.

01:38The meeting was scheduled for the next day.

01:40I do have that compromise.

01:42The second compromise was with the People's Party.

01:46The People's Party also gave it.

01:47It has been 3-4 days since then.

01:49What other compromise is there?

01:51There hasn't been a third compromise yet.

01:53So, you have that compromise.

01:55Sir, Maulana Sahib held a press conference on Sunday.

01:59He called it an unlawful government.

02:01I have also attended Maulana's press conference.

02:03He said, they have no right to amend the constitution.

02:06Then, on what basis are the negotiations taking place?

02:08On what basis are the negotiations taking place?

02:10On what basis are the negotiations taking place?

02:12This is what I have understood.

02:15If you talk about Irfan Siddiqui or other friends,

02:18like Naqeeb Sahib,

02:20they have come to congratulate Maulana

02:22because he has been elected as Amir for the next 5 years.

02:26I don't know if this is a political issue.

02:29But, when politicians sit down,

02:31political discussions do take place.

02:33But, there has been no discussion about Musawwara.

02:36And, if someone is giving an impression,

02:38then I think it may not be right.

02:41But, Kamran Murza,

02:42if Maulana's position is considered unlawful,

02:45which was in the press conference,

02:47then you cannot negotiate with this government.

02:50This is the government of Form 47.

02:52This is a fake government.

02:53This is a fake mandate.

02:55Is this a final decision?

02:57Or, is there still room for negotiation?

03:02Sir, if someone comes to your house,

03:04and I come to your house,

03:05will you stop me from coming to your house?

03:07No matter how bad I look,

03:09no matter how bad a person I am,

03:11will you stop me from coming to your house?

03:14Maulana or the people of the JYI have not gone anywhere.

03:18If someone has come to their house,

03:20and there is an occasion of Mubarak Baat,

03:23and someone has brought flowers,

03:25should they have said,

03:26that you should not come to their house,

03:28or that I do not have the right to receive you?

03:30Sir, let's have political meetings.

03:32Kamran Sahib, my question is,

03:34is there room for negotiation,

03:36and is there room for your support,

03:38even though it is unlawful,

03:40with this government?

03:42Or, is there no room?

03:45I can go further than Maulana.

03:47Maulana has said one thing,

03:49and whatever he has said,

03:51is final.

03:52So, there is no room for negotiation,

03:54with this government?

03:56Whatever Maulana has said,

03:58is final.

03:59Only the parties can change it,

04:02and Maulana himself may not be able to change it.

04:05So, is it possible,

04:06that Kamran Murtaza Sahib,

04:07will be told tomorrow,

04:08that this is the de facto,

04:09and we have to deal with Binni,

04:11as Maulana said in one of his speeches,

04:13and we have to deal with the same de facto,

04:15and then we can work with them?

04:20Look, if you want to blame me,

04:25or you want to confirm it,

04:27that in any case,

04:28this will go according to your will,

04:31then political parties

04:32will go according to their will.

04:34But Maulana has taken a stand,

04:36and he is adamant on it.

04:38If we had not stopped that night,

04:39then maybe no one would have been able to stop it,

04:41and this work would have been done by now.

04:42So, for this,

04:43Maulana should give you credit,

04:45and not malign it.

04:46Absolutely, he should give credit.

04:47Sir, I am saying that,

04:49a lot of such things have been stopped.

04:51I had told Bilawal Sahib,

04:52that Maulana is actually,

04:53a defender of democracy,

04:54and human rights,

04:56which was taken by the People's Party,

04:59and Bilawal Bhutto was on the line with me.

05:01So, this credit,

05:02what is due,

05:04we give that credit.

05:05I just wanted to know,

05:06that after this statement,

05:07is there any scope for negotiations?

05:09But sir, you must have made calculations.

05:11Does Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman,

05:12and the JEY have sufficient numbers,

05:14to submit to the government?

05:19Look, a lot of matters depend on 63A.

05:22And 63A,

05:24when it is done,

05:28then our need,

05:30may not remain in the National Assembly at all.

05:32So, if the government is so desperate for 63A,

05:37then it means,

05:38you must have found out,

05:40what will happen.

05:41It means,

05:42that we are not with them,

05:44in the government,

05:45or we are not cooperating with them.

05:47Right.

05:48But sir,

05:49if you look at the fake mandate,

05:50on the other hand,

05:51the mandate,

05:52which is less than two-thirds,

05:53if you complete it,

05:54by making it a lottery,

05:55then what will be the significance,

05:56of such a constitutional amendment?

06:00Yes, Bhai Sahib,

06:01we have stopped it,

06:02as much as we could.

06:04We have done,

06:05as much as we could.

06:06At this time,

06:07if someone,

06:08could play a role,

06:09in the constitution,

06:10no one has played a role,

06:11more than the YUI.

06:12There are bigger parties,

06:13than us,

06:14there are parties,

06:15with more mandates,

06:16than us.

06:17In fact,

06:18there are more,

06:19democratic parties,

06:20than us.

06:21In terms of fundamental rights,

06:22there are more,

06:23members,

06:24of that.

06:25In terms of human rights,

06:26there are many,

06:27members,

06:28and institutions,

06:29present.

06:30But,

06:31no one,

06:32in this way,

06:33to call a meeting,

06:34I think,

06:35has not opposed it.

06:36In this way,

06:37to call a meeting,

06:38has not defended it,

06:39in the same way,

06:40as the YUI did.

06:41Give it a credit,

06:42Allah will make sure,

06:43that the YUI,

06:44will not disappoint the people.

06:46Thank you very much,

06:47Kamran Murtaza Sahib,

06:48is present with us,

06:49that the YUI,

06:50will not disappoint the people.

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