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00:00So, it is a matter of a few days, will we see Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaaf at D-Chowk?
00:12Thank you, Wasim. It is always a pleasure.
00:16Sir, likewise.
00:18Look, it is not decided whether there will be a protest or something else.
00:23First of all, this is important.
00:25This has to be decided. There are multiple factors, multiple proposals.
00:29A movement can be born out of multiple things.
00:33So, I think it is a matter of a few days that work will be done in this regard.
00:38Sorry, I am cutting you off.
00:40Actually, when they say that you will not come back,
00:43God forbid, you will die.
00:45So, it gives the impression that those who will leave now,
00:47they will leave to sit and not to come back after the Jalsa.
00:51This is the basis on which the impression is being made.
00:53I would like to say again that whether there will be a protest or not,
00:58or there will be something else, or there will be multiple factors,
01:01this movement will be promoted in multiple ways.
01:06Frankly, this decision is yet to be made.
01:09It will be done, it will be done very soon.
01:11But, look, the issue is that with tomorrow's Jalsa,
01:17with the Jalsa on 9th, sorry,
01:20this movement, this mobilization campaign has started from UC level upwards and all.
01:26So that the public is made aware, our leadership is engaged with them,
01:31and is telling them what are the challenges, what are the efforts we have made,
01:35and getting Mr. Khan released is our priority consultation,
01:40and for this, he has to come out, without him coming out.
01:45Now, why he has to come out, why we have reached this stage, this is a very important thing.
01:49Now, in accordance with a political party,
01:52the options that were available to us in the parliament,
01:56on the legal front, you know that we are still trying.
02:01But, unfortunately, as time goes by,
02:04if there was a ray of hope left, then that has also been lost.
02:09What you were talking about in the beginning,
02:12these constitutional benches, etc.,
02:15in that system, now the whole judiciary,
02:19the government has such powers,
02:22that it can appoint its judges,
02:24it can make benches of its choice,
02:27and consequently, it can take decisions of its choice.
02:30So, on the legal front, our goal has gone further than before.
02:36So, we have no option left, except that our actual support base,
02:41which is our actual strength, which is the people,
02:43we go to them, and this is the phase,
02:46its beginning is with the Sabha AAPI Jalsa.
02:48Okay, absolutely right.
02:49You are saying, in whatever words,
02:51that the whole system has been captured in their hands.
02:54So, sir, do you think, in hindsight, when you think,
02:56obviously, it has been captured, due to the number game,
02:59and this number game would not have been complete,
03:01if Maulana Fadlur Rahman Sahib had not been with us.
03:03Obviously, you all had a lot of conversation.
03:06Now, in hindsight, do you think that their role has been very constructive,
03:10or it would have been a win-win situation for them,
03:12that they did not openly support the government,
03:15but because of their votes, they were able to govern,
03:17which they wanted to do.
03:18The work is done.
03:19Look, Waseem, my brother, if you go back a little bit,
03:24and think about those things,
03:29that what was going to happen,
03:31was going to happen, right.
03:32In the army courts, the civilians' trial,
03:35the stay of Faiz Isha Sahib,
03:36Maulana Sahib got all of that avoided.
03:38And along with that, there was the Constitutional Court,
03:41which was a bench, not a court, but a bench.
03:44This was also our proposal, which they incorporated in their draft.
03:47So, there are a lot of things that have not happened yet,
03:50but I am not saying that they will not happen.
03:53Okay.
03:54Because my personal opinion is that there will be another phase,
03:57in which all those things that they could not bring in the first draft,
04:00they will not be able to bring in the first amendment,
04:02they will try again to bring them in.
04:04And will Maulana Sahib's contribution be achieved in that?
04:07We are constantly engaged with Maulana Sahib.
04:10The kind of relationship we had,
04:12after 4-6 months, it is a miracle,
04:14that where we are standing today, it seems like a miracle to me.
04:17And a personal message from Khan Sahib has also been delivered to him.
04:21And we want that our relationship with him,
04:24is strengthened, broadened,
04:26and we are cooperating with him in the Parliament.
04:29I was going to tell you one thing,
04:31that Maulana Sahib, ultimately,
04:34played the same game with him that is happening with us.
04:37You know that he kidnapped two of his members.
04:42And there was also an attempt to make a forward block.
04:45Now, Maulana Sahib, as head of the political party,
04:48his priority was to save his party first.
04:52So, that is why, I think,
04:54he was not able to take the stand that he was ready to take.
04:59But, in response to your question,
05:02he has been extremely constructive,
05:04and is extremely constructive.
05:06And we are cooperating with him.
05:07If his two members had not been in the front and back,
05:09then he would have taken a stronger stand, in your opinion.
05:11Yes, of course.
05:12We are sure that he wanted to take the stand.
05:14But, unfortunately,
05:16because of the limitations of the constitution,
05:18I think,
05:19he is not able to do everything that he wanted to do.
05:25And you said that the message that has been delivered,
05:27from Khan Sahib, is the same as Maulana Sahib,
05:29that on a fundamental basis,
05:30it was based on his praise, praise, appreciation, and appreciation.
05:34I don't know as much Urdu as you do,
05:37but I will say that
05:39it is definitely about his character.
05:42And this desire has been expressed
05:46that the relationship that we have established with you,
05:50we would like it to continue,
05:52and we would like to further strengthen and broaden it.
05:54Now, is there any indication of a meeting?
05:57Is there any indication of a meeting between Maulana Sahib's party,
06:00or between Maulana Sahib and Khan Sahib?
06:03This has happened in a speculative domain,
06:06but I don't think that there is any possibility of such a meeting in the immediate future.
06:12And I think that even if Maulana Sahib tries,
06:15such a meeting may not be allowed.