24 Hours in Police Custody S01E04 Drug Drop (20 October 2014)

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24 Hours in Police Custody S01E04 Drug Drop  Original air date - (20 October 2014) This episode opens with a young man accidentally dropping a large quantity of cocaine from his jacket pocket outside a petrol station - all caught on CCTV. In a separate case, a man is arrested for stealing meat from Marks & Spencer. He is a heroin addict who admits theft whilst being interviewed by police and is later convicted.

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01:00Once a suspect is in custody,

01:03the police have 24 hours to investigate and interview.

01:10After that, it's either charge or release.

01:14You have been arrested on suspicion of human trafficking.

01:17On suspicion of stalking.

01:19On suspicion of GBH.

01:21Possession and making of indecent images of children.

01:24On suspicion of conspiracy to murder.

01:26Start explaining.

01:30It's the police's job to ask what really happened.

01:34Where were you on the 28th of March?

01:36It was not me, I was not there.

01:38That could have been 101 people.

01:40There's nothing to do with me.

01:45Police! Open the door now!

01:50Who's innocent? Who's guilty?

01:53Why would Pete say that you'd assaulted him?

01:55Because he's deluded, he's a drunk.

01:57Well, that's nonsense.

01:59Police! Drop your hands!

02:01From the street to the interrogation rooms.

02:04Where's the knife? Did you have a knife?

02:06He makes specific threat that he is going to kill her.

02:10From the suspects to the head of CID.

02:13That's one hell of a shirt, David. I'm loving it.

02:17These are the men and women who have just 24 hours to find the evidence.

02:21I'm not letting him get away with it.

02:23I want him nixed and charged.

02:25If he kicks off, I'm out of the door.

02:28I'm a lover, not a fighter.

02:30Will they discover it before time runs out?

02:36Good news?

02:38Yeah.

02:40Got him.

02:47GUNSHOT

02:55I'm going down to get the drugs.

03:00Cocaine worth thousands of pounds has been dropped in a petrol station

03:04and handed in to Luton police.

03:06All right, mate?

03:10It's become a job for the serious crime team.

03:16I've been told once or twice I have a miserable face and I'm a bit dour.

03:23Here we go, the dream team's on there.

03:28But I call it worldly wise.

03:31Can you book us out?

03:33Yes.

03:34I don't think I would make a very good victim liaison officer,

03:37but I make a pretty good investigator.

03:40I've always found myself as a bit of a Jack Frost,

03:42Inspector Morse-type character.

03:46Here he is.

03:48Man of the moment.

03:50What?

03:51Don't know, it's your job.

03:54Do you want me to run the phone through the NPR as well?

03:57Yes, please, yeah.

03:59Oh, it's just filling it in.

04:01Does this phone hold a pin?

04:03Quite an old one.

04:06DC Colin Knight will be assisted by PC Ollie Tomlinson.

04:11I think...

04:13Yeah, I'm probably the young, enthusiastic one

04:16that actually is excited still about things that come in,

04:20whereas he's a bit more level-headed than me.

04:23Ollie, do you want to come and have a look at this CCTV?

04:26Yeah, sure.

04:28Do you know the job?

04:30No, I don't, mate. What have you got?

04:32This chap here, he's seen coming into the petrol station in Dunstable.

04:39And just watch the passenger.

04:42Just watch him.

04:44See it?

04:45Yeah, he's dropped something there.

04:47And that packager gets recovered,

04:49which ends up being that packager.

04:57There's quite a lot in here, isn't there? Bloody hell.

05:01It's been tested for cocaine.

05:03Positive? Yeah.

05:09So he's literally just... The packager just fell out of his pocket?

05:12Yeah.

05:15Embarrassing for him.

05:20You know, you don't go to college to learn to be a criminal.

05:23You know, there's no training in it, I guess.

05:26So they do make mistakes and silly errors.

05:30You can't help but have a little bit of a smile,

05:32because you think, oh, dear.

05:34You know, imagine being...

05:36I can only imagine when they drove off and thought, where's the drugs?

05:41Oops.

05:43Don't always deal with the smartest of criminals, do we?

06:01You switched your phone off, mate. Is it off?

06:06The suspect has been arrested for shoplifting steak

06:09from a high-end supermarket.

06:13It's been observed on CCTV

06:16to select the quantity of meats

06:20for the value of £94.59.

06:26Right, this is the important one for me.

06:29Have you consumed any alcohol, taken any drugs in the last 24 hours?

06:32No, I wish.

06:34Nothing, no? No.

06:36When was the last time you used, buddy? Yesterday.

06:38Rock it up.

06:42You can scold me a bit here as well, can't you?

06:45Sorry? You can scold me a bit here as well.

06:47Probably not, mate.

06:49You might get it in prison, though.

06:51I very much doubt if you get it here.

06:54It's our first Friday in prison.

06:56Yeah? Yeah, there you go.

07:02You actually get people in the custody environment

07:04that are actually at rock bottom.

07:07And whether we like it or not,

07:09we don't normally see Mr Average coming through the doors.

07:13We've got people with mental health issues,

07:15we've got people with drug issues.

07:17Custody and the police station

07:19is probably a last resort for those people.

07:21What am I going to do?

07:23Not being able to describe.

07:27If you're here for any length of time,

07:29the doctor will come and see you.

07:31Yeah. But hopefully you won't be here that long.

07:33All right, thanks. All right.

07:35One minute, thank you.

07:37Camera.

07:41Detectives in CID are struggling to identify

07:44the man seen dropping the drugs.

07:50But the car has been traced to an address

07:52that has been put on hold by the police.

07:56The car has been seized.

07:58The car has been seized,

08:00and the car has been seized.

08:02And the car has been seized.

08:04has been traced to an address in Houghton, Regis.

08:08And who have we got out of these two?

08:09Nathan James.

08:12This is his vehicle here, the silver Corsa.

08:15Is that him, the driver?

08:16No, it's the passenger.

08:17Oh, the one that...

08:18Well, we think it's the passenger at the moment.

08:19Yeah.

08:24Luton has a massive, a horrendously massive drug problem,

08:28which has got worse over the years that I've seen,

08:30that I've been a police officer.

08:32Drugs is just so readily available,

08:35and the peer pressure, I think,

08:37within youngsters nowadays is massive.

08:41So has the vehicle been stopped,

08:42and that's how you've caught him?

08:44No, they've done some work on it around the index number.

08:49Everyone's getting their drugs from somewhere.

08:52It's really important to catch the dealers

08:54because these are the people that are dishing it out.

08:57It's always a chain.

08:59And if you don't put a stop to that,

09:02you've got to try and put a small dent in it at least.

09:04The initial evidence points to one man.

09:08DC Knight must bring his chief suspect in for questioning.

09:32All right, time for rest.

09:38Nathan James has been arrested.

09:41His car is the vehicle seen in the CCTV.

09:45What's he been arrested for?

09:47Possession of intent to supply a drug.

09:51What drug has he come back to?

09:53Cocaine.

09:54OK.

09:58DC Knight suspects Nathan is involved

10:00in the supply of cocaine.

10:04Just take a seat on the bench, please, mate.

10:05We'll get all the paperwork together, all right?

10:08Yeah, and go get the drugs.

10:10They're on my table.

10:12When you've got it on CCTV,

10:14it's a good starting point to identify him.

10:17We had the registration vehicle,

10:19but just because we've seen the offence occur,

10:21there were many doors that opened that need to be shut

10:24to prove the offences.

10:25So he can't say, I didn't know they were there.

10:27They're not my drugs.

10:27Someone put them there.

10:29We're ready to go into interview.

10:53I've always had a reputation through school

10:56of being a drug addict.

10:59TENSION Shahiled

11:06It all depends on who you know and where you live.

11:10In this area, it's quite easy to get drugs.

11:17It's always around,

11:19when I'm with my mates, we'll go out, go to parties.

11:24I swear they're easy to come by.

11:28I don't know, it's lifestyle, really.

11:40OK.

11:42Obviously, I've given your solicitor some stills.

11:44There is CCTV.

11:46It shows a silver Vauxhall Corsa

11:48pulled into the Dunstable BP garage.

11:51The passenger gets out

11:53and from his left-side jacket pocket,

11:58a package falls out.

12:00So the package you've recovered is Exhibit JD01.

12:07We can see six bags of, I call them button bags,

12:10you know the bags you get in your suit

12:11and they've got buttons in them.

12:14Yeah? OK.

12:16You usually find buttons in them, suit buttons,

12:18but on this occasion, we find white rocks.

12:21And then we have these little tubes

12:23and in them, little mini tubes, I would say,

12:25they look to be white powder, stroke and white crystals.

12:30They've been tested and they're OK.

12:35What can you tell me about that?

12:39No comment.

12:41This gentleman, do you recognise him?

12:44That's not me.

12:48Who is it?

12:49No comment.

12:51Would you not agree with me that gentleman's got a strikingly

12:55similar description to what you have, facially-wise?

12:58No.

13:02I can tell you now, this chap has a tattoo

13:06on the right side of his neck.

13:09Where's your tattoo?

13:16Nathan.

13:21You know.

13:23Sorry?

13:24Right side of my neck. Right side of your neck.

13:26Because if you recognise this gentleman and you know who he is

13:29and it's not you and you have nothing to do with this offence,

13:31now would be a good time to tell me so we can maybe go and speak

13:34to this gentleman regarding the offence

13:36that you've been arrested for.

13:39So, who is he?

13:40No comment. OK.

13:43Brother? No comment.

13:45Cousin? No comment.

13:46Related to you in any way? No comment.

13:48OK. The vehicle is seen to leave the scene

13:52to leave the petrol station.

13:55We've run an insurance check on it.

13:57Who did we find was the registered owner to that vehicle?

14:04Would you like to tell me?

14:06No?

14:07You must think who we...

14:09Who do you think we found that was the registered owner?

14:15It was Mr Nathan James of Hatton Region's Dunstable.

14:18Who's that?

14:19No comment.

14:20It's you, isn't it?

14:21OK. I don't believe you were the driver of it

14:23because I believe you are this person,

14:25who clearly is seen on CCTV not driving it.

14:28So, why are you not driving your vehicle on that day in question?

14:31That's not me.

14:33Who is it, then? No comment.

14:35OK. So, let's look at the facts that we know.

14:38Your vehicle, registered to you that you've owned since February 2014,

14:42pulls into a garage.

14:44This gentleman leaves the passenger's front side,

14:47drops this item, comes in, pays, gets into the vehicle, drives off.

14:52Yeah? He has a tattoo on the right side of his neck,

14:55the same place that you have a tattoo on the right side of your neck.

14:59What do you say about that?

15:02That's a common place. That's a common place. OK.

15:05He's in your vehicle. You're saying it is me?

15:07Yeah, I am saying it's you. No, it's not.

15:09OK. So, who is it, then? No comment.

15:11OK. And you're saying that these items of clothing

15:14won't be found at your house, I suggest? No.

15:15OK. No further questions. I'll now conclude this interview.

15:41Yeah, it looks like 2003 is when it all started for you, wasn't it?

15:444, 5, 5, 5, 6, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11.

15:52And then it all went quiet. Yeah.

15:54That ain't bad, though, is it?

15:57It's actually 2010, isn't it? 29th of the 11th, 2010.

16:01So, you've done well. Yeah, it's been all right.

16:06Just need to keep it up, buddy.

16:09I don't think I'd get pizza.

16:11It'll be the meat piece, which is candied chicken,

16:14spicy beef, pepperoni and lamb doner.

16:16Ooh, lamb doner?

16:19Investigating officer Phil Stanton

16:22will interrogate Darren about the stolen meat.

16:30He's not even subtle, this bloke.

16:32He's literally gone in with an empty carrier bag,

16:34chucked as much meat in as he can and just run away.

16:42He's...

16:47Oh, he's tried to sidestep the big security guard at the end

16:50and the guard's just literally thought,

16:53I'm not having this.

16:54Bang, just rugby-tackled him round the waist.

16:59Oh, sorry, you shouldn't laugh at me.

17:02Oh, sorry, you shouldn't laugh at that sort of thing,

17:04but that is funny.

17:10I take it you're just smoking, not injecting or anything like that?

17:13No, I've been injecting.

17:14What, recently? Yeah.

17:16Are they clean? Yeah.

17:18Yeah?

17:20We used to do a needle exchange

17:22where they got some really good wipes.

17:24I don't know if there's any in here.

17:27I'm going to put some of these in your property, mate, all right?

17:30Yeah?

17:35The beauty of the custody environment is it stops at the gate.

17:38Once they're there, they're there.

17:40They're in the cell, they're in the custody area.

17:42It's a good place to get into people, so to speak.

17:45And if we can give them just that little bit of help...

17:48I mean, that's what we join the job for, isn't it?

17:50It really is what we join the job for.

17:56How much are you using, bud?

17:59I'm trying to do one a day, one bag a day.

18:04Easily getting looting, isn't it? That's the problem.

18:07Yeah.

18:08Don't tell me...

18:09I get messages off about ten dealers every day.

18:12Yeah.

18:13Like, oh, I'm banging, I've got banging gear.

18:16Come to me, come to me.

18:18Unbelievable, isn't it?

18:20That's the problem, isn't it? Yeah.

18:22So you've just got to be strong.

18:27My mum and dad split up when I was a baby,

18:31and my mum, like, had a bit of a nervous breakdown just after that

18:37and left me on my nan at Grenades doorstep.

18:41And I didn't have any contact with her up until I was about 10 or 11.

18:46Let's find you somewhere to sit down for half an hour

18:49while the officers sort their bits and pieces out, all right?

18:53My nan and grandad, they kept me out of going into care

18:57and did the best that they could do for me

19:00and probably raised me better than my mum could have done.

19:03Grab one of those, mate.

19:05Oh, sorry, bud.

19:07They just wanted what's best for me.

19:09They wanted me to live a normal life.

19:12I just feel so sorry for them, the way that I've turned out.

19:19All right, Dave.

19:35Nathan is waiting to be interviewed for a second time.

19:39Detectives need to positively identify the man seen in possession of the drugs

19:44and Nathan is refusing to confirm it was him.

19:52Do you think he's the driver now?

19:54Look at his build.

19:58He looks a bit shorter.

20:02Is that him?

20:09We had to vehiculate him.

20:12We had the vehicle registration

20:14and it came back to the chap's name and the address.

20:18It had to be him.

20:21But why would the owner of the vehicle not be driving?

20:27I think I've seen him.

20:29They're quite distinctive at the back, those trainers.

20:34I mean, those jeans are really distinctive.

20:38All right, we'll do the section 18 and see what we get from there.

20:44Without further evidence, the case against Nathan will collapse.

20:48Right, we'll see you when we get back.

20:51Find something here. Make sure you find something.

20:54Don't come back empty-handed, please.

20:56I'll try to.

20:59Left here, yeah?

21:08Hello.

21:09I'm PC Shane from Euston Police Station. Does Nathan live here?

21:12No, he's not.

21:21There's quite a lot of cash there.

21:23Got it all on there.

21:29I reckon they're the trousers.

21:32Yeah, they are.

21:33They've got black bits at the bottom.

21:38Has anyone come back while we've been here?

21:41It's looking like he's got a younger brother.

21:44He's got the tattoos and the same sort of description, and he's smaller.

21:49Where do you have us on...?

21:51Is it Daniel or Danny?

21:54It is Daniel James.

21:56Has he ever been in trouble with the police before?

22:01Hello, mate. Have you had a look at the picture of his brother, Danny?

22:05Do you know what he looks like?

22:09No, Danny's out. He's not here.

22:11But we found a jacket and shoes that, as soon as Sam was talking and said,

22:15oh, they look like the shoes we're after, to be fair to her.

22:18And they're Danny's shoes.

22:20And then we found a jacket that belongs to Danny that looks like the jacket.

22:24And the mum says he's got tattoos as well on his neck.

22:29When you're interviewing someone and you truly believe that is the person,

22:33to then find out that's not the person through mistaken identity,

22:38will weaken the case.

22:40I know the defence will play a big part in that.

22:43We've got piles of evidence for Colin to go through.

22:48Police have found their evidence, but it points to a different man.

22:53You say you've picked up Danny and you think it's him.

22:56It must be, no?

22:58And the mum said he's got a rose tattoo with writing.

23:01To be honest, it's mostly the first time ever I've had a case of mistaken identity.

23:06And I like to think it's a mistake I'll never repeat.

23:10I'll go down and speak to Sabrina and say we're going to have another interview.

23:14I'll go down and speak to Sabrina and say we're going to have another interview.

23:45Who's got the guns?

23:49I'm the brains, he's the brawn.

23:52I'm like a mini Colin.

23:55In your dreams.

24:14I am not going to go over old ground.

24:16We've covered a lot of stuff in the first interview, Nathan,

24:19and you had plenty of opportunity to answer my questions,

24:22some which you did and some which you refused to.

24:26We spoke in the first interview about whether you had brothers.

24:29I think I in fact asked, does anyone look like you or resemble you?

24:33And you decided to go, no comment.

24:36You do have a brother, don't you?

24:38And his name is Daniel James, that's correct, isn't it?

24:42Daniel James is your brother. Do you want to tell me about Daniel?

24:49I would say, again, he looks in his late teens, early twenties.

24:54In height, I would say he's smaller than you.

24:57And the most distinctive thing is he has a tattoo on his neck.

25:00Because it's of writing, isn't it, and a rose.

25:03You'd be correct in saying that, wouldn't I?

25:05And it's maybe more prominent than what your tattoo is.

25:07In fact, it's a lot more prominent than what your tattoo is.

25:13It's safe to say, Nathan, that Daniel was that person in your car, 3rd March 2014.

25:21It's correct, isn't it, Nathan?

25:26And you're the driver.

25:31And I get, Nathan, I get why you're not telling me it's your brother.

25:35Because you don't want to drop him in it. I totally get that.

25:38He's your brother, and you wouldn't want to be seeing grass and your brother up.

25:48Anything you want to say to the police, Nathan?

25:56I've got no further questions. I'll now conclude this interview.

26:09If I found out my sisters were drug dealing, of course that would be so difficult.

26:13So difficult to say, would I drop them in it or not?

26:19To drop your brother, sister, dad, mum in it, yeah, of course it's hard.

26:24And that must be a very big moral dilemma that they have to sort of live with.

26:39Police have no choice but to release Nathan.

26:42Now they want to speak to his brother, Danny.

26:45We're going to bail you out.

26:49Has she said anything about your brother?

26:52That is my contact number, and that's the hours I'm working tomorrow.

26:56It would be nice to sort it out, yeah?

27:00And he's not going to be here as long as you, because a lot of it's done anyway.

27:04We're done. Thank you, Sarge.

27:09I shall see you in May. If I don't need to, I will be in touch to let you know.

27:14All right? Take it easy.

27:25Hello there, Darren.

27:27Do you want to come up? We'll have a chat.

27:30Hello. Do you want to come up? We'll have a chat.

27:34Bear with me. That's good, yes?

27:37I've got a choice of three keys. Write them on the first time.

27:46OK, cool.

27:52OK, you've been arrested on suspicion of theft from shop,

27:55and the grounds for that are that you were seen to select goods by staff at M&S

27:59to a value of just under £100,

28:01and staff have identified you as being a serial offender

28:04and have detained you when leaving the store.

28:06So if you can tell me what happened leading up to your arrest, Darren.

28:11I left home knowing that I was going to go to Marks & Spencer's and try and rob it.

28:18I needed some money to get some heroin,

28:21so I went into the store, just put a load of meat in the bag,

28:28was caught on my way out, so...

28:33And that's us.

28:35You said you knew you were going to rob M&S. Yeah.

28:39Tell me why M&S.

28:43Cos M&S do the best food.

28:46OK.

28:51It's not any meat, it's M&S meat, isn't it?

28:54OK, fair enough.

28:57Tell me a little bit about your heroin addiction.

29:00I first tried heroin about six years ago when I was in jail.

29:07Tried it and loved it. Loved it from the off.

29:10I was using it for a couple of years.

29:13I'd give it up for, like, three years, but I picked up a drinking habit instead.

29:19So I came to Luton to stop my drinking habit.

29:22My family paid for me to go into rehab.

29:26I came out of treatment and decided to stay round here

29:31and started taking heroin again, so...

29:35OK.

29:37Yeah.

29:39Beyond these incidents, do you think there are any more

29:42that you want to get off your chest now before we find out about them?

29:45No. No.

29:47OK. Is that because there aren't any, or are you chancing your arm?

29:51Chancing it. Fair enough.

29:54The time is now 21.45.

30:00And I'm concluding the interview.

30:03OK.

30:05DOORBELL RINGS

30:08I mean, do you get any help for this?

30:12No.

30:14No, I did last year.

30:16Like, I gave up for 90 days.

30:19Mm.

30:21And...

30:24..the pain's too much.

30:29It's horrible, like, once I started...

30:32Yeah. Can you imagine this?

30:34..stealing again, like, this miserable client.

30:37Mm. I mean, are you settled in Luton?

30:39Could you go back to your family or anything?

30:41Yeah, I'm thinking about doing that anyway.

30:43Because Luton's not the greatest place to be... No.

30:46..if you're on drugs.

30:49Sounds like they're quite supportive of your family.

30:51They've paid for your rehab, for the alcohol stuff, so...

30:57I'm just worried if you let go...

31:01..you'll end up robbing someone.

31:03No, I'm joking.

31:09I don't know what I'm going to do. I'm dreading it.

31:11What do you mean?

31:13To tide yourself over? Yeah.

31:15Yeah.

31:18DOOR OPENS

31:28I've put my family through all sorts, like, during my drug use.

31:34I just want to make my family proud.

31:36Like, I want a job, but...

31:40..I've got a criminal history

31:42and people don't want to give criminals jobs

31:45because they think that they're going to get ripped off.

31:49Can you blame them?

31:51No, I can't blame them at all.

31:53But...

31:55..anybody deserves a check into the chance, I think.

32:01It's confirmed it's him on the CCTV.

32:03So what do you want to do?

32:05Well, I can't see there's any other option than to charge him.

32:09I did say to him that my starting position would be

32:11that I don't think we necessarily need to keep him.

32:15And then he turned around at the end of the interview and said,

32:17I don't know what I'm going to do when I get out of here.

32:19I said, what do you mean? He said, oh, I've got no drugs.

32:21And I thought, right, OK.

32:23So does he want to stay?

32:25No, he doesn't want to stay. He wants to get out.

32:27And I would have fully supported it had he not told me that.

32:30And now I'm starting to think, well, if we let him out...

32:33He then goes off on a massive spree.

32:35I'm a bit of a sap, but I do feel a bit sorry for the guy.

32:46PHONE RINGS

33:00Danny, Nathan's younger brother, has handed himself in for questioning.

33:06I'll be down in two minutes.

33:08All right, cheers, mate.

33:12He's just handed himself in now.

33:16I'm going down to custody, Hannah.

33:26OK, Daniel, empty all your property up there,

33:28and then I will give you a search.

33:31Time of arrest?

33:32Ten past four.

33:37Have you had any alcohol in the last 24 hours? Any drugs?

33:40Are you dependent on alcohol or drugs?

33:42Are you dependent? Are you an alcoholic or a regular drug user?

33:49So you're saying no to that?

33:51I need to put a yes or no and an answer.

33:53It's just so we can look after you.

33:55That's why we're not trying to trip you up

33:57in relation to whether you're doing things or not being involved in this case.

34:01Thank you. Appreciate it.

34:03Right, well, I'm going to go and give him a disclosure and show him the video,

34:07and then I'll be back.

34:13Do you have questions first, or...?

34:15Just in terms of volume, how many is the number of items of white powder?

34:20There are... I should have brought photos out.

34:22There are very small tubes, about that big.

34:26What do they look like? Like...

34:29That sort of thing?

34:31Yeah, a bit uncanny that you've got that right.

34:3412 of them with finely crushed powder.

34:39And I would say about nine deal bags of rocks.

34:45This is... Do you know where it is? Dunstable High Street?

34:48This is the vehicle in question.

34:50We do get a good close-up of the number plate,

34:53so we're happy that it's his brother's vehicle.

34:57You can see on sort of frame by frame

35:00that he has a distinctive tattoo on the right side of his neck.

35:09That's a tattoo.

35:11It's thin, isn't it? Let's be honest.

35:13You'll say that's a tattoo.

35:15What would you say is in?

35:17I'd say it's poor-quality CCTV.

35:19What?

35:20It's not conclusive CCTV, is what I would say.

35:25Well, he's unblemished on the face.

35:27You can clearly see facial hair, and I would say that.

35:30It's lighting from above.

35:32OK.

35:34We clearly done Section 18 yesterday.

35:37And we have recovered a coat, jeans and trainers

35:43that all match the poor-quality CCTV that you've just watched.

35:48And mum's confirmed they are Daniel's clothes.

35:53Colin Knight's one of the officers that I've seen on a number of occasions,

35:58and we actually get on fairly well.

36:00We both understand that we're both there doing our jobs professionally,

36:04and, yeah, we can certainly have a bit of a laugh

36:07when we're in police custody together, yeah.

36:12OK, all right.

36:14OK? Yeah.

36:16Let us know when you're ready.

36:18He's a bit cock-sure of himself.

36:20He wears a nice suit, he's got his designer stubble,

36:23and his hair's neat and tidy.

36:25And, yeah, he's all right, and...

36:29..he's a bit of a white boy.

36:32When I was doing the risk assessment with him, I said to him,

36:35going through it, are you dependent on alcohol?

36:37And he just looked at me and went, are you dependent on drugs?

36:39And he looked at his solicitor, and he looked at me and didn't say anything.

36:42The solicitor said he won't be answering that question.

36:44So, obviously, he's got a coke habit, probably. Yeah.

36:47Pretty large one, by the looks of it. Yeah.

36:50MUSIC PLAYS

36:58I started smoking weed.

37:01Like, little things, but through after school,

37:04I started going on to stronger stuff.

37:11What are the main drugs that you take?

37:13Ketamine, really. Ketamine and coke.

37:19Well, I've got a problem with them.

37:21I do them frequently.

37:23Why, how much money do you spend on drugs?

37:26A lot. Pretty much all my wages.

37:31I'd like to control my addiction, but...

37:35..I'm just not ready to yet.

37:44You got a set of keys there? Yeah. OK.

37:47Yeah, this is...

37:49Oh, Darren. Darren, Darren, Darren.

37:51Hello, Darren. How are you doing?

37:53Darren, I'm the custody officer.

37:55I just want to seek some clarification.

37:58And based on what you tell me, it kind of, like,

38:01gives me an idea as to how we deal with you,

38:03as far as tonight's concerned, yeah? OK.

38:06So, what does life look like for you now, then, sir,

38:09if you get bail and stuff? Yeah.

38:11Where are we going to go? Are you going to engage?

38:14Yeah.

38:20But, yeah, seriously, I'm looking at...

38:22You're looking at getting charged and we're going to bail you, yeah?

38:25Yeah. But I'll be honest with you, though.

38:27I want to be crystal clear that you're not going to find yourself

38:30in a position where if I bail you,

38:32that you're straight out there and commit offences again.

38:35No, no, I'll be all right. OK. I'll be all right.

38:38All right. We're just going to sort a few things out

38:40and we'll get you up and deal with you.

38:42All right.

38:48OK.

38:51Oh, good grief.

38:53I say, you know, I wouldn't have thought anything of it

38:56had he not made that comment at the end.

38:58And I think, well... But then as soon as he says that,

39:01you know, I've got to be fair... Exactly.

39:03..and raise that, because then it goes up on a massive screen.

39:06Oh, don't. Don't.

39:13SIREN BLARES

39:23Um, Sergeant?

39:25Is Colin Knight about? We're ready to get him to interview.

39:28I shall get hold of him. Thank you.

39:32There we are.

39:34Got a few tattoos on you.

39:36What's your best one?

39:38Ribs, probably. The ribs?

39:41My nephew started an apprenticeship doing tattooing

39:47and somebody asked him to do a were-rabbit.

39:55OK.

39:56Daniel, if you want to take a seat on the other side, please, mate.

40:02If everyone is good to go, we'll crack on.

40:11We'll go to the item that was dropped on that day in question.

40:16It's a picture of the package that was dropped.

40:22I ain't no drug dealer.

40:25But what I would say is it looks like they've been prepared to sell.

40:30Would you agree with me? No comment.

40:32Were you in possession of these drugs on the 3rd of March?

40:37No comment.

40:40Um, I think we'll go on to the CCTV.

40:42I think it would be a good time to show you.

40:46Can you see the screen?

40:49What I'm going to do is get off my chair and come round and explain to you.

40:53OK.

40:54It says the date and time, and this vehicle has just pulled up.

40:59A passenger front door opens and a male gets out on the phone wearing a black jacket

41:03and as he turns round, a package has dropped to the floor.

41:07Is that you? No comment.

41:10OK, I'm not expecting you to identify yourself via that footage.

41:13Because clearly we don't get a very good view of the gentleman.

41:19What I'm going to do then, Daniel, is show you a second bit of footage.

41:25There's a camera inside the shop.

41:28OK, so if I stop it there, it's a good clear picture of the gentleman.

41:33Who's that?

41:35Daniel?

41:37I'm going to zoom in.

41:41I want you to look very closely at the right side of that gentleman's neck.

41:45Please, Daniel.

41:49Now, I take it we all have our own opinions of what that may be on the side of the neck.

41:54I describe it as a tattoo.

41:56You can distinctively see three lines.

42:01And I would say them three lines pretty much match.

42:06Three lines are writing on the right side of your neck, Daniel.

42:14Daniel, you're clearly under arrest on suspicion of possession and intent to supply a Class A drug.

42:21And in my opinion, and it is only my opinion, quite a large amount of drugs.

42:28If I've got it totally and hopelessly wrong, Daniel, and it's not you,

42:34now would be a pretty good time to tell me where you were, give me an alibi,

42:38or any information that would take you further away from this incident.

42:49I've got nothing further to add.

42:51Daniel, I now conclude this interview.

43:12Hang on a sec.

43:14Here he is.

43:16Ah, hello.

43:20OK, you know what's going to happen.

43:22You're going to be charged with three counts of theft,

43:24stolen meat to the value of £102.70, belonging to Miles and Spencer's.

43:28Yeah.

43:33All right?

43:35I'm all finished with you.

43:37All right? You done?

43:39Brilliant thing to have, Sarge.

43:41Take care, Phil.

43:43See you later, dude. Be good.

44:04Hello?

44:06All right, it's Darren. I've just got out of a police station.

44:10Can I give you my contract phone and get one of each until tomorrow?

44:24What's...?

44:28Yeah, I'll give you my contract phone until tomorrow.

44:31Yeah, I'll give you my contract phone until tomorrow.

44:33It's only until tomorrow.

44:38Well, I'll go on the internet, ring people.

44:41It's only until tomorrow.

44:46All right, then.

44:51He said no.

44:53Yeah, he said no.

44:57He says it's a business.

44:59He doesn't need another mobile phone, he needs money.

45:05I'd give anything for a bag now.

45:29You're going to be bailed out, OK?

45:31I've spoken to Matt Lippard, he's fully aware of the date and time.

45:35A copy of your bail sheet,

45:37as your condition that you need to avoid by,

45:39and your time and date just there, please.

45:43There's always a trigger offence of why something's happened.

45:46I truly believe that there's a fight because alcohol's involved,

45:51a drug's job because people are addicts or they need money.

45:56I don't think that they're a bad person.

45:59You know, not all bad people commit crime.

46:02Are we done, Sarge? Yeah, it's all done.

46:04Thank you very much.

46:08There you go.

46:11I believe that everyone on a daily basis has a decision to make,

46:16and I think they need to be accountable for their decisions.

46:25Thank you very much.

46:55Eight showed up.

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