Are the Dolphins Contenders or Pretenders? The guys break down who they feel could contend for a Super Bowl. We hear Tua's response to Stephen Ross' comments about being a Super Bowl Contender.
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00:00Uh, you were saying that often signs of people, uh, yes, they signed a running back in a linebacker.
00:07Let me look here.
00:09Uh, Anthony McFarland is running back and linebacker Dequan Jackson.
00:15All right.
00:16Just need bodies, need bodies.
00:18Uh, if you guys missed earlier, river Cray craft is going to miss time week, uh, weeks
00:25of time with an upper body injury.
00:27Uh, Cam Smith is week to week with a hamstring injury.
00:31Uh, according to Barry Jackson, David long is fine.
00:35So that's good.
00:36Right.
00:36Um, and Chris Brooks is in concussion protocol, which sucks.
00:44Cause he had a great run.
00:46Yeah.
00:48So there you go.
00:49Well, the, one of the things that I just read, so what is
00:56retiring from football?
00:58I'm like, he'd been retired for like five years.
01:01Was he on a roster last year?
01:02Yeah.
01:03Who was young?
01:04I don't know.
01:06Well, I need to know if we had Colt McCoy, would that make everybody feel
01:12better than, uh, Mike Smith, uh, Mike White and, and Skylar Thompson.
01:17He was not on a roster last year, but he did play the year before that.
01:20He was on the Cardinals for a couple of seasons, Cardinals giants.
01:26Washington, San Francisco, and started his career.
01:30You know, it's amazing.
01:31You know, when fans say, um, like during a draft, we need to draft this guy.
01:36We do need to draft this guy.
01:37We need to draft this guy.
01:39When those guys suck and your team draft somebody else and that guy ends up
01:44flourishing, do you ever come back and say, Ooh, what's wrong on that one?
01:48Um, I know you don't, you, you finagle your way out of
01:56well, this starts with some of the craziest stuff ever.
01:58I mean, you could look at the 2008 draft.
02:00If we wanted to go to like the heat and the drafted Michael Beasley, like,
02:04you know, Kevin Love was better.
02:06Russell Westbrook was better.
02:07So they missed, but it still makes me happy.
02:11Oh, what about totally miss with that?
02:12What about, um, even, uh, drafting, uh, what's the name of a book?
02:19Justice Winslow.
02:19Justice Winslow.
02:20Yeah.
02:20That's a whiff because here, think about this.
02:25Let's play this out.
02:27If they had book, you wouldn't have to hero.
02:31Um, yeah, probably.
02:34I don't know.
02:36He lost a lot early in his career.
02:38That don't mean anyone with the heat.
02:41Uh, what do you mean?
02:42He wasn't here.
02:43He was there.
02:44No, I know, but I don't know.
02:46We don't, who knows how it goes?
02:47Who knows?
02:49He's a bona fide scorer.
02:50He is a bona fide scorer, but under all conditions, they lost a lot.
02:54Like there was no, there was no, uh, there was no jump.
02:56Like there was with like the wolves with Anthony Edwards.
03:00Well, I mean, Anthony Edwards also did call Anthony town.
03:04Here's the number one pick with Carl Anthony towns, right?
03:07Stunk after Jimmy Butler left.
03:09And then they traded for, yeah.
03:14Um, just saying how that guy keeps making, I mean, they traded
03:20for him, like they were trained for Michael Jordan.
03:23Yeah.
03:24Yeah.
03:24They ruined the trade market.
03:25Yep.
03:27So, um, I want to get to this.
03:30So we talked a little bit last hour about the Steven Ross comments about,
03:33uh, his super bowl.
03:35He thinks the Dolphins are super bowl contenders of healthy, uh, Mike McDaniel.
03:39He was asked about this.
03:40Do you want to hear what Mike McDaniel had to say?
03:42Sure.
03:43Here's a Mike McDaniel on Steven Ross's expectations of being a
03:47super bowl contender of healthy.
03:50During the game, the, um, team owner, Steven Ross was interviewed by CBS.
03:54And among the things he said, he said, if we stay healthy, we're certainly
03:58a contender for the super bowl.
04:00Do you like those types of comments?
04:03Absolutely.
04:04I think that means he's, uh, he's the, I think from a team perspective,
04:13um, a lot of times, uh, people are, I don't know, hesitate to talk about
04:21goals, um, you know, in case you don't achieve them, uh, I don't really
04:25operate that way, there's a lot of steps before that, so I don't, I don't
04:29think, um, you know, necessarily it's, uh, on our guys' minds right now,
04:36because our goals are creating our standard and then, um, winning the
04:40next game and then you try to do the division and then you try to win the
04:45conference and you try to win the super bowl.
04:47So, but I, I, I like, um, I like the building, um, and you know, including
04:55the owner, having the mindset of let's be bold, don't be afraid of anything.
05:00We're, we're going to compete.
05:02And, um, that, uh, I think that brings out the best in people.
05:07Um, and you know, I, I, I I'm excited that he, uh, you know, I think that
05:14means he believes in the program, right?
05:19Oh my God.
05:21No, I just saw the 66 yard field goal.
05:28It must be noted.
05:29Yep.
05:30He hit the net crazy.
05:32So he not just dribbled it over, he hit the net.
05:37What do you, uh, what do you make of Mike McDaniel?
05:39What do you think he's going to say?
05:40Uh, no, no expectations, but here it's summer down.
05:48I, I hate when people don't hear what somebody is saying and they jump to their
05:55own, he said, I feel that we are contenders, right?
06:02Which is what every other team would say at this time.
06:06He didn't say, I don't think the Panthers are saying that he didn't say
06:11Carolina Panthers.
06:11He didn't, he didn't say a lot of Panthers champions.
06:14He didn't say, I expect to do this, this, and this, or I have expectations.
06:20He didn't say any of that.
06:21So everybody's taking this comment and making it sound like
06:25the owner has expectations.
06:28That is not what he said.
06:30He does have expectations.
06:31He does, but that's not what he said.
06:34He said, we should, we, we should be contenders.
06:39No, it's not.
06:39It is what it is.
06:41That that's the problem I have with this is that we take it for what we want.
06:46So we can make this big story out of it.
06:49And guess what?
06:50He felt that way last year.
06:51And he said so that, Hey, I felt if we were healthy last
06:55year, we would have contended.
06:56That doesn't mean when he didn't say, I expect to get to a certain point.
07:00I am curious about this.
07:01What do you consider a contender?
07:03How many, how many, how many teams do you consider a contender?
07:06Six.
07:08Let me see.
07:09Here's here's also the problem.
07:11What happens if you have two contenders in one conference and
07:15seven contenders in the other?
07:17Yep.
07:18It's a lot tougher, right?
07:19Yep.
07:20So I would say, let's go to NFC.
07:26I'm going to say, you got to say the Eagles and San Fran Detroit,
07:31Detroit, maybe green Bay, maybe green Bay.
07:36I'm not sold on a quarterback.
07:37He played for three minutes, but maybe green, maybe green.
07:40So that's four.
07:41Now let's go to the other side.
07:44What about Dallas?
07:46Dallas contenders?
07:48Yes.
07:48I say Dallas over green Bay.
07:50They went 12, 13 games every year.
07:52He's all in.
07:53You can't say they get hot for a month.
07:55Is anybody in the NFC South, a contender who saints bucks Falcons?
07:59Nope.
08:00Keep it moving Rams.
08:03Rams.
08:04What's Rams going to be good.
08:06Why are they going to be good?
08:08They're always good.
08:08And let's continue our sneaky contender.
08:11No contender.
08:12Okay.
08:12So that's true for, and only one of the East or two of these, what NFCs
08:20you're going to Eagles and Cowboys.
08:22I'm going to do Cowboys.
08:23Even like, we're not saying who I'm saying, I'm saying contenders
08:28being that, being that like, if you went 12, 13 games every year, I got to
08:34consider it, I'm not going to say you went to a 13 game, but I don't take you
08:37serious because you won 12, 13 games.
08:42That's why like contender.
08:45I'm not saying going to win, but I'm saying at the end of the season, when
08:48you say this, this team has the playoff, this team has 12, 13 wins with data.
08:53Once he, but not all playoff teams are contenders.
08:56Yeah.
08:57I mean, have a chance and I'm not even talking about the, but I'm saying if
09:02you listen, if you get into the playoffs, why can't you be a contender?
09:05So you got six teams in the NFC, very gracious.
09:08No, I think it's okay.
09:10Go.
09:10You tell me who I go Eagles.
09:12Okay.
09:13Who had a worse collapse than the dolphins did last year, but I'm giving
09:17them the benefit of the doubt because they were in the Superbowl two years ago.
09:23They were in the Superbowl two years ago.
09:24Wow.
09:25They were in the Superbowl.
09:26So you said the Rams won it and you didn't sit there.
09:28You, I don't get that.
09:32You're the worst.
09:34There has a no more Aaron Donald a bigger turnover.
09:37Uh, yeah.
09:37No more Aaron Donald.
09:38Okay.
09:40They don't have Kelsey though.
09:42Hold on.
09:42Keep going back.
09:43So you're, you're, you're throwing out and I can, who'd you throw out?
09:46You don't have the Cowboys throwing out the Cowboys.
09:48Okay.
09:49Packers get them out.
09:53I think I'm throwing out the lines.
09:55Oh, so you're throwing out the lion, but they eat kneecaps.
10:00Nah, they're not the lions.
10:02Keep going.
10:03And I'm throwing out the Rams.
10:06The Rams.
10:08Throwing them out.
10:08So you're throwing out the Cowboys, the Rams and the lions and the lions.
10:14So you're saying San Francisco, Green Bay, San Francisco, Philadelphia.
10:20Yes.
10:20I cannot believe that you would take Detroit out of it.
10:27Believe Philly in why?
10:29Why Philly?
10:29The green Bay is not the one you're confused about.
10:31Saquon.
10:32We got weapons.
10:33They do got weapons, weapons, weapons last year.
10:36And they went on an epic collapse.
10:37I don't like Sirianni.
10:38Like he is.
10:39He is a worst coach that all counts.
10:42All right.
10:42Two, two contenders.
10:43I take out the Eagles.
10:44All right.
10:44Now I'm down to Green Bay and San Francisco.
10:47Now let's go.
10:48All right.
10:48AFC, AFC.
10:49Hold on.
10:50I'm gonna tell you right now.
10:51The Ravens.
10:52No, no, no.
10:53So let me just do division.
10:54Okay.
10:54Let's do this radio style.
10:56Yeah.
10:56The West.
10:58I hate radio style.
10:59I love it.
10:59It's like the Leroy Jenkins.
11:02The West.
11:03Kansas city.
11:04Obviously.
11:04Yes, of course.
11:05Oh, thank you.
11:06I'm sure that grateful that you included them.
11:08Raiders, Broncos, Chargers.
11:10Huh?
11:11Raiders, Broncos, Chargers.
11:12Any of them?
11:12Nah, can't do it.
11:14I think the Chargers will make the playoffs, but no, not a contender.
11:17Not a contender.
11:17Right.
11:18Cause I don't trust Jeff.
11:18So they got one.
11:19I don't trust the South.
11:21Oh, Jags, Titans, Texans, Colts, Texans.
11:26Texans are contender.
11:27Yes.
11:28That's it.
11:28Stupid.
11:29The North.
11:31Ravens, Bengals, Browns, Steelers.
11:37How many contenders in that division?
11:39That's the toughest division.
11:40Ravens and Browns.
11:42Okay.
11:43Four.
11:44Of course you'd pick them, bro.
11:45No.
11:46What?
11:46Dude.
11:47What?
11:47Hold on.
11:48Wow.
11:48It wasn't me.
11:48Hold on.
11:49Why not the Bengals?
11:50They won a playoff game and started five quarterbacks.
11:55You don't think that team can support a bad quarterback?
11:59So just get a decent quarterback.
12:01All right.
12:01So Ravens, Browns, not the Bengals.
12:05No.
12:06Why?
12:07Cause they got to prove to me they can protect their quarterback.
12:09Otherwise he going to be mishap the season again.
12:11And then the AFC East.
12:13Yeah.
12:14Dolphins.
12:15Dolphins and Bills.
12:16Stop.
12:16No jets.
12:17No.
12:18Okay.
12:18So, so just in fairness, just want to be clear when we initially did this
12:22list, you evened it up, you went six, six.
12:25Yeah.
12:27You said, well, there was, what if there was a seven and one and two in the other?
12:30You want to take that back?
12:31Or you think it actually is six and six?
12:33I would, I would.
12:35You want to revise your list at all?
12:36I would say it's six and four.
12:38All right.
12:38So you do think 10 contenders, 10 teams can win the Superbowl.
12:42Yeah.
12:43Yes.
12:43Uh, like, uh, like keep in mind, you haven't seen anybody.
12:47So you can't make any assumptions about anybody.
12:50All you have is what you've seen.
12:53Right?
12:53So I don't know why in the hell after the collapse they had with your home
13:00team, having the same collapse, you'll be more inclined to pick the
13:03Eagles to be contender, something went on there.
13:07They had a worse collapse than the dolphins.
13:09Who did?
13:10The Eagles.
13:13Now you still not much worse.
13:15Yes.
13:15Yes.
13:16Worse.
13:16Not much worse.
13:17Okay.
13:18Here's why.
13:19Here's why.
13:20Look at the vision.
13:21They played it.
13:23Yeah.
13:24So they played the giants and the Redskins, the dolphins played the
13:28jets who had Tim Boyle as quarterback.
13:31And then they played the Patriots.
13:32Like it wasn't a murderer's row.
13:34The Dolphins Eagles lost to the Baker led books.
13:39Um, Eagles beat the dolphins last year.
13:41So you think 10 teams are a contender?
13:43Yeah.
13:43Contender.
13:44Everyone.
13:45I'm not like, if I had to, if I had to get a Superbowl, do you understand?
13:53There's been wild card teams that gone to the Superbowl, right?
13:57I haven't once.
13:58No, it did not go look and see how many times a wild card team has made the
14:01Superbowl.
14:03So like you want to his thoughts on the Steven Ross comments?
14:06No, I don't.
14:08Marcos.
14:08Do you want to, I need to hear, okay.
14:12I'll give him the stat since 1970.
14:14Hmm.
14:15It's happened 10 times.
14:17That that's one.
14:18That's that one of the wild card.
14:19Existing one.
14:21That's no, maybe this is just made it to the soup.
14:24Yeah.
14:2410 have made it six.
14:25Yeah.
14:26But they didn't have a wild card till like 1987.
14:30No 70.
14:30It says a wild card system began in 1970.
14:33Okay.
14:34And so we made it to how many of one three.
14:37I'm sorry.
14:38Uh, six, six.
14:40Yeah.
14:41So last one, how many Superbowls are there been?
14:44Cool.
14:4453.
14:4654.
14:46All right.
14:46So one every five, no 57.
14:48This would be 57.
14:49One every six years.
14:50Tampa Bay bucks in 2020 were the, uh, last ones to do it before that.
14:56It was Leroy's favorite team, the green Bay Packers in 2010.
15:00Oof.
15:01Oh, that was a good run.
15:02Yeah.
15:02Yeah.
15:02They did everything on the road in new Orleans.
15:04That was a good run.
15:05Um, give me two, uh, and his reaction to Steven Ross saying do it or else you
15:10is that, is that exactly?
15:11Okay.
15:12Yeah.
15:13During the game, the CBS broadcast, they interviewed the team owner, Steven
15:17Ross, and he said, if we stay healthy, we're certainly a contender for the
15:21Superbowl.
15:22I don't know if you knew that he said that, but what are your thoughts on, on
15:26those remarks?
15:27What are your thoughts?
15:28You think so?
15:29Contender?
15:30Yeah.
15:30I think there's about 10 teams that have a chance.
15:33Yeah.
15:33What do you think?
15:35I mean, you just said contender.
15:36I think there's 10 teams.
15:38Are there dolphins?
15:38It's one of the 10 teams.
15:40You think so?
15:42Yeah.
15:43I would say that's, that's the reason if none of us have the belief that we can do
15:47it and it won't happen for us on our team.
15:49So of course we have that belief.
15:52Wow.
15:52I did like that.
15:53Well handled.
15:53But, but again, I didn't like how you see how you see how they, like, there's a
15:59difference in being a contender and having expectations.
16:03Like you took the same phrase and try to say, oh, they don't understand.
16:07They have expectations, all the money.
16:08That's not what happened.
16:09No.
16:09See, you did, you took teams with expectations and you made them all
16:13contenders.
16:13I don't think they're all contenders.
16:16So, so go.
16:17So I got two NFC contenders, right?
16:21All right.
16:22AFC chiefs, obviously I'll allow it.
16:25All right.
16:26There is not a contender in the South.
16:29No, not a contender.
16:30You don't think, you don't think, you don't think that you're texting?
16:34You have a, no, no, not a contender.
16:37Damn.
16:38Welcome to, uh, they're, they're, they're top resident at too cute.
16:42Ville.
16:43Okay.
16:44Yeah, I was going to ask because on paper they, they seem to be talented.
16:47Quarterback positions seem to have good leadership too soon.
16:50Too soon.
16:51Yeah.
16:51I get that too soon.
16:52Really?
16:52You know what?
16:53You're right.
16:53You know, Tom Brady, when he went to Superbowl, that's fine.
16:58Not everybody's Tom Brady.
16:59He doesn't get to get, but you didn't know that you always get to throw the
17:01rules of Tom Brady.
17:02Wait, wait, wait.
17:03He had to deal with the devil and he cheated.
17:04You didn't know that at the time.
17:06Okay.
17:06Well, right now I'm predicting not a contender too soon.
17:09All right.
17:09They're not on my list.
17:10Didn't Dan Marino go his second, his first year.
17:12You're not on the list.
17:15It's my list.
17:16You had your time.
17:20What about my time?
17:21Marcos.
17:22When I gave my list, he said, nope.
17:30I'll give him my list.
17:31Not even close.
17:32That's it.
17:33You come, you heckled my list.
17:36How are you going to heckle my list?
17:38He didn't say my list.
17:40Oh my God.
17:43The king of the North.
17:45King of the North.
17:47Ravens.
17:47That's the only thing.
17:48Holy Ravens.
17:49No one has faith in the Bengals.
17:51I don't have faith in John Watson.
17:52Even though, even though Lamar, but see, that's my point.
17:55If, and this is how, this is why I said this.
17:58If Lamar Jackson plays average and they're consistent, have the
18:04same quarterback all year, they're better than they were last year.
18:08They want a playoff game for God's sake.
18:12They started five different quarterbacks.
18:15They did the same thing that Jets did.
18:17Who do they beat in the playoff game?
18:19Uh, talk about the Pittsburgh.
18:22No, it was a Pittsburgh.
18:22Some of the Browns.
18:23Yeah.
18:24Not a contender.
18:25Okay.
18:26But, but you understand they had the same circumstances as they can have expectations.
18:31Wait, they had the same.
18:33They got dusted by the Texans in the first week.
18:37That was two years ago, 45 to 14.
18:40Here's the deal.
18:41Let me ask you, wait, they had the same situation as the Jets and look
18:47at how those two teams went about it.
18:49So you can't tell me that if they have just average play, same thing.
18:53The Jets are saying the Jets say, Hey, Aaron Rogers has got to be better
18:56than the stiffs we had last year.
18:58You guys, maybe you'll become a contender, but from the outset,
19:01not a contender, you can still become a contender.
19:04You win a big fight.
19:05All of a sudden you're content.
19:06Dan Hooker.
19:07He was ranked 11th and then he beat the number five guy.
19:10He's back to top out contender tender.
19:12Okay.
19:12So you can become a contender.
19:14Keep going.
19:14Keep going with you.
19:15Okay.
19:16AFC East.
19:17Yeah.
19:17Jets.
19:18Oh, look at that.
19:21You got me with the swear.
19:23Drink me bills.
19:24Yeah.
19:25Not a contender.
19:26No way.
19:27We know the patrons aren't dolphins.
19:30Steven Ross said that they're contender.
19:31Contender.
19:31So my question is this, can you say somebody is not a contender when
19:36they've won a division the last five times times up, but you're,
19:39you're assuming that you're right.
19:41Okay.
19:42All right.
19:43I mean, there's no games to be played.
19:44That's all I can do.
19:45I literally, all I can do is assume.
19:47So was that three or four AFC teams?
19:49I think I counted three, three, which is more than the NFC where I had two,
19:53but I'm more of a man than everybody else.
19:55I'm going to narrow it down to just, I'm going to narrow it down.
19:59Yikes will away.
20:01And I didn't like how, uh, I think that was Joe Shad asking the question
20:05when two or threw it back at him.
20:06I didn't like, I didn't like how he waffled on.
20:10Like he hesitated, Joe, what do you think?
20:12You think you're good to play that again?
20:16Cause he got it with two or threw it back.
20:17And he was like, like, we almost hurt.
20:19Like it's almost like he stubbed his toe.
20:22Two of the, during the game, the CBS broadcast, they interviewed
20:25the team owner, Steven Ross.
20:27And he said, if we stay healthy, we're certainly a contender for the Superbowl.
20:32I don't know if you knew that he said that, but what are your
20:35thoughts on, on those remarks?
20:37What are your thoughts?
20:38You think so?
20:38Contender?
20:40Yeah.
20:40I think there's about 10 teams that have a chance.
20:42Yeah.
20:43What do you think?
20:44I mean, you just said contender.
20:46I think there's 10 teams.
20:48Are there dolphins?
20:48It's one of the 10 teams.
20:50You think so?
20:51Yeah.
20:52I would, I would say that's, that's the reason we play this game.
20:55If none of us have the belief that we can do it and it won't
20:57happen for us on our team.
20:59So of course we have that belief.
21:01See, I feel like you need to have a new game instead of contender pretender,
21:03which is a radio classic, you need contender, contender, because it kind
21:08of gets high pitched out there.
21:09Like you got like the squeaky cheeks, contender.
21:12Two of the, during the game, the CBS broadcast, they interviewed the team
21:16owner, Steven Ross, and he said, if we stay healthy, we're certainly
21:20a contender for the Superbowl.
21:22I don't know if you knew that he said that, but what are your thoughts?
21:30And it was like, what do you think?
21:31So it just called the audible.
21:33He goes, what do you think?
21:33What do you think?
21:34You tell me.
21:36I like that though.
21:36That's something he definitely wouldn't have done those first two years for us.
21:40Flip it back on you.
21:41Yeah.
21:42What do you think?
21:42Buddy?
21:44I mean, I just like, it's like, it's like, uh, he was like, almost like
21:48Ron Burgundy when they put the question mark in the teleprompter.
21:51I'm Ron.
21:53Damn it.
21:53Who put that question mark there?
21:55Anything you put in there, Burgundy will read.
22:01Yeah.
22:02So, so while we sit in here, like being a contender is not like, we can't hang on
22:09the, there's no, technically there's no contender ring.
22:11Technically every, yeah.
22:13I think there's about 10 teams that have a chance as a contender.
22:16You made the final, the postings of playoff.
22:19He went on.
22:19I mean, you just said contender.
22:21I, by the end, by the end of what to see, no contender.
22:27You still said he didn't five.
22:29Of course.
22:30I really felt good after game two.
22:33Man.
22:33I wasn't any record breaking.
22:35How'd you feel after game three?
22:36Not good.
22:38Same way I felt after every other day.
22:41Not good.
22:41Not good at all.
22:42But this year, Oh, look out.
22:44Yeah.
22:45So it says we're getting killer Jimmy Butler.
22:47So I would say there's three or four teams that are going to be terrible.
22:53I think there's 10 teams.
22:55It was probably dolphins.
22:56One of the 10 teams, 15 to 20 that are going to be in the middle of the pack
23:03could fluctuate one or the other way with a couple of wins here and there.
23:07But you're going to be pretty close and there's going to be eight to 10 teams
23:11that, right, are going to, there's more teams that are going to be in the middle
23:15than there are, like you'll have the same amount of contenders as you have
23:18terrible teams, correct?
23:19Right.
23:20Right.
23:21It might be as hard to pick.
23:22We should do this game again and be like awful.
23:24Okay.
23:26I mean, so we are making an assumption that Caroline is going to have number
23:30one pick, if not the giants.
23:33Ooh.
23:35Can I interest you in Arizona?
23:37Yeah.
23:37Oh, that's cool.
23:39I don't know of not one person player.
23:41They have.
23:42Kyler Murray.
23:43I mean, but yeah,
23:44well, they just drafted a Harrison jr.
23:47Oh, they have Marvin Harrison jr.
23:50So a rookie that they drafted this year is the only other player we know.
23:53I don't know, but the last time we played fancy football, Leroy
23:56drafted like four Cardinals.
23:58That's right.
23:58He was really into the, cause no, I thought they were always playing.