Latto’s ‘Sugar Honey Iced Tea’ Album Reaction | Billboard Unfiltered
In this episode of 'Billboard Unfiltered,' Billboard staffers Carl Lamarre, Trevor Anderson, and Damien Scott react to Latto’s new album, ‘Sugar Honey Iced Tea,’ break down the new Killer Mike & Travis Scott feud, debate whether Snoop Dogg is the most beloved rapper of all time and more!
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00:00He thought when he went to go listen to it that it was the strongest female rap album of the year so far
00:03I tend to agree. I think it edges out megan
00:06looks like we may have a
00:07new feud
00:09Between uh killer mike
00:11And travis scott. I did not have that on the cards. No, he's the most beloved rap living rapper right now
00:17And who was who was before him?
00:19I mean
00:21He never got quiet. Yeah, I don't know
00:25And gentlemen, what's good what's up what it do what up what up what up
00:30Miss lotto
00:31Who put out her new album sugar honey ice tea on friday amazing fire features, uh, megan a stallion
00:38Yeah, t's old touchdown
00:41um freaking
00:42What's what's like 21's? Uh cousin's name buggin 22 young nudie. No, that's his cousin. Yeah. Oh, yeah, it is. Yeah
00:51Wow, yeah, yeah
00:54Is he also british
00:55I don't know
00:57I feel like I thought 21 was born. It doesn't wait. You think nudie was born there too. I'm just asking. No, I think he's
01:04american
01:05okay, so i'm uh
01:07america, right
01:09Olympic spirit, you know, apparently like we go we claiming him album drop coco jones also on it
01:15Mariah scientist
01:17Sierra very atlanta pretty stacked. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, let's talk about the album because a lot of anticipation for it
01:25I feel like she delivered. Yeah, you know, um, we'll get y'all thoughts first and then i'll dive in
01:31Mr. Dane, I think it's great. Uh kyle
01:35In a previous episode said that he thought when he went to go listen to it that it was the strongest female rap album of
01:39the year so far
01:41After listening to it. I I tend to agree. I think it edges out megan
01:46I think it's strong. It's it's so cohesive
01:50uh
01:51It sounds everything sounds
01:54Like it it it all fits together. It's all
01:58it's it
01:59It's amazing that she was able to work with grizz to like land on this sound that at once sounds like atlanta
02:06but also sounds
02:08very modern and it sounds like it can be
02:10uh
02:12Traceable anywhere like you could this these songs could ring off
02:15Anywhere in the country, but it still feels very atlanta. She's wrapping her ass off
02:20The features all work together and you know, it's not like that
02:25Rap feature shit where like you make a song and the person comes on the song and they just like do whatever they want
02:31And then they like go about their day
02:32Every feature on the album like works with the song. Like I think my favorite feature is the teasel touchdown song
02:38and this whole song is about
02:40You know her coming to grips with her man cheating or being over protective and his whole
02:46Verse is like the inverse of that and it works so well together. Like it's like holy shit
02:52We're getting like real songwriting
02:53Well, and the fact that they can like at the end they sort of do a little back and forth
02:57Kind of like duet exchange
02:58So like that really drives home the point that this song was like created with two people in mind writing songs, man
03:04Yeah, you know, it's not just like some he's stable on the verse real quick that you could take off
03:08You know if you needed to give quick fives to mr. Tito touchdown
03:10He's just been doing a thing
03:12On the future, right? I feel like the last year or two killing. Yeah
03:15Freaking travis don toliver dojo. He's been on it and then other parts of the album
03:19she's like completely flips and she does like some other shit like my favorite song right now probably is is uh,
03:24uh is blixem, which is
03:26One of the most irresponsible songs on the album. It's her basically saying like you
03:31go shoot somebody if you love me, which is fucking nuts, but
03:36the the bars are hilarious and and
03:39The beat is great
03:41You know, there's um one line where she's like, you know, he knows who to call to make a nigga fall like life alert
03:48That's like a that's like a little wayne in his prime line. Yeah, and you know, it just made me smile
03:55I like that trump. Uh, yeah, I mean
03:58Not that she necessarily had the pressure but it does it's one of those things where we talk so much about female rap
04:04This seems to be I think the last album of the year at least the one we know of what's coming
04:09Um is always the cardi question mark out there, but you know, so a little bit of pressure
04:13It feels like to kind of bring it home like okay
04:14This is the one you know, everybody else to put out there is what you got
04:17and yeah, I think uh, I gave it another spin this morning and
04:21One of the things that I really like about it is the range that it really shows and of course
04:26You know, it's rap first. So nobody expects you to necessarily be a singer have all these other kind of talents
04:31but the fact that she can carry a melody I think really
04:34Gives her album a lot more dimension like when we hit, uh,
04:37Like copper cove and it kind of went like in a different direction, which I you know didn't necessarily expect at all
04:42but it's
04:43You know much slower much groovier, but it's not like she's you know
04:46Trying to pretend like she can sing or whatever. She carries that shit like easy
04:50I mean the songs with mariah on there like uh, coco obviously bringing the r&b element
04:54So the fact that she was able to pair those things
04:56to me was one of the things that made it really successful and not being repetitive or kind of you know,
05:01we've seen a lot of albums where it's like it's
05:0314 of the same beats. It's kind of like, you know, just at some point. Here's another here's another one. Here's another one
05:08here's another one, but it was uh
05:10Created I think to give a lot of distinct flow. Well, they most rappers I think have
05:15a short range of things to say
05:18for sure and this album proved that and this may only be like
05:23Maybe this is the album where she is able to do this
05:26But it seemed like she was making songs that literally spanned if you are a 25 year old woman
05:32You know
05:33Either from atlanta or just you know living within hip-hop culture in 2024
05:37Like these are the range of life experiences that you may find yourself in
05:41These are the range of emotions you may experience and she seemed to have made a song for literally everyone
05:47I didn't find myself thinking like oh she already like
05:49Covered this ground on another track already or like oh, we already talked about this. Uh
05:55So yeah, I agree. I think she did really well in that I think you know
05:58as I said, I think she proved to be a better songwriter than
06:02I gave her credit for yeah, and one thing too about uh, like sort of on a technical level
06:08We mentioned how many guest stars are on this album? Like is there's you know
06:12plenty of them
06:13But the fact that the album is sequenced to where most of the features come on the back side
06:17I thought it's actually a really great play because most people would think
06:21You know, you put all the features up front. It's going to carry the album, you know
06:23All the all the buzz tracks are going to be up there
06:25we just kind of get through it and then you might hit that back half and be like
06:29Okay, it's just lotto lotto lotto lotto but for her to you know, really put herself up front and not you know
06:35People can't say like oh you're just crutching on this
06:37Oh, you know it's only good until you get to track seven and we stop
06:40Like I think that sequencing was really smart to show off what she can do first
06:44And then bring everybody else in to help supplement that. Yeah. Yeah
06:47Yeah, I think you you guys both hit it on the nail reason why I like it a lot, you know
06:52I was like you have an interesting observation. It's very
06:55Drake coded
06:57Yeah, you know, um, you listen to georgia peach
07:01It gave me laugh now cry later vibes
07:04um, you listen to big mama
07:06There's the the the beat switch in the middle
07:08She does the singing first and then you know little little drake-esque and then I think the outro to shout out to me where she
07:14Threw some darts and miss isis
07:17ice spice, um
07:19It gave me more of the you know
07:21Introspective
07:22Lyrical drake vibe that we're used to getting like middle of the ocean 30 for 30 type vibes and she freaking annihilated
07:29The intro and the outro. Yeah
07:31of those tracks and I think to your point how
07:33you mentioned how she kind of
07:35Loaded up on the features in the back. She made it a thing to say. Hey guys
07:39Make sure you listen to the album in sequence, right?
07:43And like literally track by track. Yeah
07:45One to 22 because she does have put it on the floor on there. Hopefully it'll help elevate the streams
07:51Um and uh sunday service sunday service both versions remix original whatever you want, you know
07:57Um, and I do love that. She got in her melody bag, too
08:00Because that's something she played around with on 777
08:02Yeah on the last album so to see her really be confident comfortable
08:06In that space to say hey, I want to exert this talent even more
08:10Kudos to her, you know and a little nod to 21 here and then oh god. Oh god. That's what oh god the ad lib
08:17Oh god, you know what's funny about the drake coded stuff is like
08:22She's really from atlanta. Yeah, and so oh god. Oh god. Come on. Come on english teacher. Come on
08:29There's this
08:31Yeah, there's this kind of like circular influence, right?
08:33It's like the music he makes is very clearly influenced by this by the american south, right?
08:40She's actually a person from the american south
08:42but
08:43The way she's rapping is in a way that has been created not created
08:47but it's a style in which drake has made popular and even like the beat selections you can say like is is something that
08:54he's
08:55formulated in his own world to
08:58Appeal to everyone but still feel like it's from the south and you know from atlanta or from houston. It's interesting to see somebody
09:06From there take that
09:08And really own it
09:10And be like, yeah, this is this is a sound that
09:14Makes sense here. Yeah, it's super interesting. Yeah
09:18We gotta ask her for that gotta throw a quick shot to settle down too. That was one of my favorites
09:22On the project, uh real quick
09:24Joe, joe button podcast. They had a debate speaking about the lotto album just in terms of her rapping ability
09:31They had mentioned how they feel like she's top three or even in some cases top two
09:37Pure rapping when it comes to female rappers. They had said nikki one
09:42lotto two
09:44So i'm curious to ask you guys if you feel she is a top three rapper just based off pure spitting
09:52Alone, is that something you guys agree with?
09:54If this album was able to prove that
09:56Uh spitter. Yeah. Yeah, I would say off this album. I mean nikki to me is
10:03Number one. Yeah
10:07And then I would probably put
10:11You got doja you got megan. I think this album is
10:14Edges megan's but I might I think megan might
10:18Be a better rapper
10:21so the technique yeah, I feel like megan has like a better delivery and
10:26Is a better technical rapper than lotto, but I feel like lyrically and when it comes to puns lotto has that
10:32Maybe I I think I think uh, megan is
10:38Yeah, a more nimble rapper. I think she's more comfortable
10:42with like different uh
10:44verse constructions and line constructions and I think she's like able
10:48To pull references that you know, I I really have no idea no idea about but yeah, I think in terms of like
10:55that
10:56like showy
10:57Kind of as I said, like the little way and in his prime lines, you know, like
11:03Getting hidden hit in the head like bondage type lines. I think she does that better
11:09But megan to me, I don't know if she still has something that's like
11:13feels
11:16Sharper
11:17She got that aggression. Yeah, maybe it's that yeah
11:21She got that real or as trevor said that jackhammer
11:25Is that oh, yeah, well she does she like
11:28Yo, yeah
11:30Drills right in like and and yeah, I guess and there's something about you know, I think megan's tone and megan's sort of um
11:36Just like presence that is that is that adds to that kind of weight to it
11:40like yeah, and that's something that you know, it's just one of those things that
11:44You know, that's that's what god gave her like you can't right you can't re you know
11:48You can't recreate or change that tone. So it's just sort of you know, one of those things she has
11:52Um, i'm not sleeping on doja though
11:53I think doja and maybe it's because doja came through in different kind of ways and it wasn't until
11:58you know the last album that she really
12:01started to
12:02You know put it all together
12:03But I think I mean I think doja goes like on all the records that she's done in the past like, you know
12:08the tracks with city girls, uh plenty of tracks with like, uh, sweetie like
12:13uh, obviously
12:14Her own shit that she's done. I like I think doja has great different flows
12:20Voices
12:20I mean there are a couple i'm trying to think of what track it was on here that um
12:23I was liquor like even on this album
12:26That to me like like even with the back chorus and the vocals that to me had a lot of doja layering on there
12:30So I know you know, maybe she's not necessarily
12:33You know people's first pick to grab a mic and freestyle and go crazy, but I think she could too
12:37like I really think
12:39People people kind of sleep on on what doja can do obviously because we've seen her do so much and she's more successful in the pop
12:44bag, but um
12:46I think you know if she doubles down for another rap album or something, you know
12:50If you saw her live at her tour, like the breath control is crazy. She does it all live like
12:54She is really, you know
12:56She's definitely one to watch out here for sure
12:59I don't know if that puts her, you know, nikki's got to be one
13:02I was gonna say like a top three. I don't
13:04She's gonna say they all my son. They all children. Yes. It's children of benign all my sons regardless
13:12I mean nikki's just yeah on her best day like no one can fuck with her
13:16Monster verse still yeah, I mean that yeah
13:20That's a legendary one right there. Yeah easy
13:22Before we move on unless you have something else. Oh, no, no go for it. Yeah read brother. Kyle. He uh from grenade
13:30He sent us all the way to to read
13:33Because he could not let this week go by without praising big mama
13:38So i'm just gonna read it really quickly says sugar. Honey. Ice tea is finally out
13:44I'm, so proud of lotto
13:46And the whole team in this project. It really does sound as good if not better than when I first heard it at the listening party
13:54Still obsessed with shout out to me and i'm gonna keep saying it
13:58It will probably be one of my favorite rap tracks over the entire year overall
14:03I couldn't be more happy with how the album is being received by the people
14:06It seems like people on the ground are really fucking with it. And I think that's important
14:11I haven't gotten a chance to look at the prediction numbers
14:14But I think as long as she can clear the first week total positioning of 777 it's a win for her
14:20But overall the quality of the album and how consistent it is from top to bottom is a major win for her
14:25It is really
14:27her best work yet
14:29Feels like the start of a new chapter for her as a rapper and an artist
14:33My favorite tracks right now are shout out to me shimpering grits brokey georgia peach
14:39Parentheses he says dropping that video was smart
14:44And then he ends with p.s. I have no clue
14:50I haven't read this yet. So p.s. I have no clue if the drake
14:55Contributions he puts them in quotations are accurate or not
15:00In the event they are more of this please instead of leaking shitty snippets to streamers and calling yadi a
15:07genius i'll take that as a w because I was waiting for kai to acknowledge drake at some point because I realized shout out to
15:13Me and georgia peach are super drake coated and the fact that he acknowledged those among his favorite tracks
15:20I like that. He wrote this probably, you know completely twisted look it up. Yeah
15:24Also, ron man was like hold on p.s. Let me yo probably while listening to blue green gotta throw in gotta throw in drake real quick
15:32Uh, but yeah, that's that's from kyle, you know, shout out to kyle
15:36You know the amazing cover story on on her if you haven't read that please go check that out
15:41And uh, yeah
15:44You know at first I he had me in the first half. I was like I was like
15:48It's kyle the executive that put this together
15:51I'm, like is he working at the label? I'm so proud
15:57Okay, I do want to point out one note that he put in there
15:59Um, because I think it's kind of interesting about how this will do compared to seven seven seven seven seven
16:05Debuted number 15 back on the chart this right now trending
16:08Like maybe top 20 or so the interesting thing though
16:11Of course 777 had big energy on it. That was really blowing up at the time huge track
16:15So plenty of streams plenty of sales coming if this gets close and really with no there's no hit off this right now
16:20Big mama's kind of cooking but nothing on that kind of level
16:23I think that's a that's actually a win in a way too then
16:26You know without that one single probably driving a lot of the activity
16:30There's still like interest in the whole body of work people trying to find their favorites this and that
16:34So, you know, even if it doesn't do you know go past it or whatnot
16:37I still think given the two different rollouts and what was happening at the time
16:42This could still turn out to be to be a win for sure
16:45Wins all around. Yeah, well, we'll know next week the total tally on this lotto
16:50switching gears looks like we may have a
16:52New feud that's cooking up or simmering. Are we not feuding out? You know, listen, man
16:59Cat williams for this cat williams started this shit. This is your crime. This new potential feud could be between killer. Mike
17:06And travis scott, I did not have that on the cards. Nah dingo card
17:11It's like you just pick a slot machine and two names pop
17:15So pretty much allegedly, you know killer mike
17:17He released a new song called still talking that shit off his new album that came out last friday the lyrics in question
17:25Let's see. He raps you gonna respect me like a motherfucking grammy winner
17:29Like I cooked your favorite rapper like a granny dinner
17:32He also said I finally get it all my haters they were jealous
17:37They wrote their papers gave them speeches. No one gave a fuck. I walk in a room
17:43And smile and applause erupts
17:46So that led to a little back and forth between the managers between
17:51travis's manager
17:53And killer mike's manager
17:55Travis, uh manager david stromberg came out and said at killer mike mclemore and cardi b tour selling out chucky cheese karaoke nights near you
18:04Killer mike's manager stretch. He came back at dave and said taking all phase with all managers for our clients
18:11So I don't think travis and mike are gonna few but the managers I kind of want to see that could be like the little opener
18:16Yeah
18:18Okay
18:19so
18:21Academics he posted mike's week one numbers. Obviously we have mr
18:24Trevor here to cooperate whether these numbers are true or not killer mike. He did
18:29Apparently like less than 3k
18:32Week one of this new of this new album that just dropped earlier this month and that kind of you know led to the question
18:39of
18:40What's more important?
18:42first week numbers
18:44or grammy wins
18:47I
18:50Mean the cop-out is like neither are
18:54That like both I guess is the answer because like
18:58First week numbers are great. If you are of a certain caliber of artists, right if you're like able to sell
19:03there's only a certain
19:05Tier of popular artists that is able to move the units that
19:10We're talking about that travis moves
19:13Um
19:14but that doesn't
19:16Always as we've talked about on the show
19:18with people like megan like that that doesn't always
19:22Directly correlate to you having a fan base of a certain size, right? Uh, I think with mike
19:31The grammy wins is a great validation for him
19:34but for most people
19:37Who look at the grammys as like? Yeah, it's a stamp
19:41Of approval from a board of people who
19:45We're not completely sure we are
19:48In alignment with but it's it's still there
19:50It's still a big thing people still want it, but it doesn't really change the way that most people think about things
19:55um
19:56That also doesn't mean that you have or don't have a fan base. So it's like these two things that are like
20:02Important if you make them important
20:04And not important if you don't want them to be important, right?
20:07Which seems like a cop-out but I don't know it's like
20:12Travis scott is a young poppin rapper who
20:15You know is in the prime of his career
20:18Killer mike is like 50 plus he's been rapping since like
20:22I was in maybe middle school or high school
20:25and um
20:26Made an album that very few people
20:29Thought would do what it did not this one that just came out the one before that that won a grammy
20:33Um, so this is just like a bonus to him really this is just like a you know
20:40This is like a nice to have
20:41So it's weird that they're comparing this with his like big comeback with travis. Yeah with travis's big comeback album. Um
20:49Yeah, I don't know I think both are fine
20:52You know
20:53I mean sort of damien's point is interesting because you can't tell me that either wouldn't want the other thing
20:58Right, we know certainly that because travis doesn't have one
21:01Yeah, travis does not have we've seen him in past years at the grammys. Was it? I think it was party one this year
21:07This year also 2019 when cardi won best rap album over daytona astroworld. He was in the back
21:13Yeah, that was a crazy on camera spazzing. Yeah. Yeah tight. So it still does matter to certain very tight. Yeah
21:21Yeah, that's the thing too with the grammy. It's always funny because everybody
21:24You know
21:25The history of hip-hop with the grammys is obviously, you know more fraught than any other particular genre
21:30so there's a lot of
21:31You know, who is it for who's it? Not? What is it?
21:33you know, where do they come around to but you know, they love like
21:38But they can't be contemporary like kendrick, you know wins basically every time he puts out an album
21:42So it's you know, not always just the legends getting it but you people, you know say they don't care about it
21:47But then drake pops up, you know for a surprise when he gets it and doja
21:51You know cried and says she you know
21:53I mean it was a pop grammy, but she was like, you know
21:55I try to pretend like this doesn't really matter but this is a big deal. That's what they all say
21:58You know, it's like so
22:00Yeah, and of course like yeah, like you said with travis
22:02I think it must have been this year, you know after the performance that came on after he had lost and you know
22:07Everyone sort of got the coded messages in there on the flip side
22:11You know, i'm sure mike would be rejoicing if he could get half of travis first week sales, you know
22:15I don't know. I think he's he's good in his mind. He's probably like and this maybe comes with age. Yeah
22:21But i'm not saying he has to have it but if it happened, yeah, i'm sure
22:28Yeah, he'd be like
22:30He'd be you know rejoicing about that. Of course
22:32It's weird right because I feel like then the conversation becomes and we've always spoke about this like numbers versus acclaim
22:39And I think at a certain point if you're an artist you got to decide which route you want to go if you're lucky to
22:43Get both and cool. Yeah, but there's certain artists you just know
22:48The numbers aren't going to be there
22:49But if the fanfare
22:51And the critical acclaim is there i'll gladly take it
22:54But the grammys aren't aren't even directly correlated to critical acclaim
22:58You know like mclemore. Yeah, and I and the fact that you know, it's not like it's a critic's body
23:02yeah, you know, it's a
23:04I mean, it's a peers membership body. Of course you expect that, you know, people have taste and people, you know, it's getting better
23:09It's been getting better over the years, but it's it's not like oh
23:14This is the the best rap album of the year is going to win the best rap album of the year grammy
23:18Like we never go into the year thinking that ever
23:21yeah, and I think for travis, especially like
23:23And you know, they're like there is a logical case that people make where it's like if if something is the most popular
23:29that lends itself to
23:31Good, like like why would people why would people be playing astroworld as much as they you know
23:36As much as they do have for all these years
23:38If it wasn't good, you know, they're not gonna sit here and just spin some bad shit, right?
23:42So there is like that kind of lane where I can see where especially with astroworld, you know
23:45Travis hit a new a new level in fame sicko mode brought him to a whole new sort of stratosphere
23:51Unfortunately, that was a very stacked year and a lot of people, you know could have won for different reasons
23:57um, and clearly, you know cardi ended up being the top vote getter, but
24:01You know, I I swear to see that point
24:05As as carl will say the tiger. He will say as as correctly, you know awarded by the grammy carls
24:11Like they finally got one right, you know, he was right
24:13He was front row jumping up and if you think about it like going back to those
24:17Nominations that year like you said it was stacked. It was invasion of privacy. It was victory lap
24:22Oh, yeah women it was daytona
24:25And it was invasion of privacy. Yeah, there's there's a sixth one too actually I think but I can't remember who was
24:30But yeah, it was it was tough that year. Um, it's also like the like to go off of trevor's point
24:35This is the same argument that like eminem made when he had that interview with sway. Yeah. Yeah, he was like
24:41Fuck the grammys
24:42They they do all these things to get us there
24:46And then they like pull some bullshit and you know give I forgot the person he mentioned
24:51You know and give some body we've never heard of an award
24:54uh, you know, he was like the marshall mathers lp never won a grammy and he was like
24:59You can't tell me that wasn't the most impactful
25:02album of the year and
25:05It's hard to disagree with him because the numbers were so fucking astronomic and so crazy
25:11that year
25:12But I know people who are like that was not the best rap album of the year
25:15That was not the best album of the year, but to eminem. It's like
25:18You can't tell me that this diamond album
25:22Right is not the best album. I mean you look at even when 50. Um
25:26When he was a best new artist when he was nominated for best. Oh, yeah
25:30Evanescence and he crossed that stage real quick and it was like and I think didn't kanye lose best new artist to um
25:37tip of my tongue
25:38Kanye would have been like oh
25:42I forgot he lost to beaver
25:44Esperanza spalding was a year that like drake was drake in that. I think drake might have been
25:49She beat bieber for sure. Yeah. Yeah, I think it might have been
25:53I think esperanza won three that year. It was hold on. Can we hug hug? We got to pull this up
25:57I don't want to show esperanza spalding. She's really talented. No, she is but she got another wild stray this year
26:01But I also think it was well guess what because drake dissed her because he was like
26:05Who the fuck cares if you're michelle obama play like it was justin bieber drake florence in the machine mumford and sons
26:09That was esperanza's year
26:11Kanye lost to which was which it was like on paper
26:16Sounds nuts, right? I mean, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, like month
26:20I don't even like really fuck with mumford and sons, but even mumford and sons. They're they're pretty gritty darling favorite
26:25Crazy killing it that year. They're a critic darling. They were selling out shows everywhere
26:31They like change white music
26:33That was like what white people were going nuts for at that time like this
26:36You couldn't go to any bar in brooklyn without hearing like a ding ding ding
26:41And I was like damn they lost that's yeah, that's it. Yeah, you know, it's crazy
26:46But you know what shout out to the grammys for giving giving everybody else a chance because I was gonna say
26:50I think a cast like a lucky day. I think a cast of like her who don't necessarily have like
26:56These sparkly gaudy billboard numbers
26:59But I thought you were about to say her ain't got awards
27:01I was like her got her got awards talking in terms of charting and numbers
27:06You know that they haven't been these sort of if you're lucky to get both
27:09Like I said, you're an anomaly but ain't nothing wrong with getting one of the other still a win either way
27:16I look at it
27:17Yeah, black man. Just I guess let's just you know
27:20Just build each other up. That's right. I guess the answer is, you know, tupac would love that
27:25Okay, some coalition shit
27:29Yeah, yeah
27:30Um and going into our last topic of the day
27:34Mr. Snoop Dogg
27:36Motherfucker just been all around paris doing his thing as this u.s ambassador holding it down amazing
27:44Crazy, I just think it's mind-boggling seeing the brother there
27:47Uh partying it up with martha stewart, you know chilling with brian
27:52It was a report that he even was making five hundred thousand
27:56a day during his time there
27:58so
28:00Something different that leads
28:03Me to ask this question to you guys is snoop the most beloved living rapper
28:10of all time
28:12Oh, I mean living rapper of all time, okay, i'm gonna remove the all-time part but
28:18What I think so. Okay. Well, I was going well that that that's interesting
28:22So why why are you removing the of all time? Well, because I mean like right now
28:26Yeah, living he's the most beloved rapper living rapper right now. And who was who was before him?
28:32I mean
28:35Damn it got quiet. Yeah, I don't know
28:38Well, it's all time is weird because like is he gonna be that forever?
28:41Like well, no one. Yeah, I think it'll be a while for somebody like bro
28:45Who the fuck they gonna let in the olympics? I don't know. It's really weird. That's crazy. This is a guy who was on trial for murder
28:52I still remember that. Yeah
28:54I very clearly remember mtv news breaking
28:57To the verdict and being like this guy
29:00You know snoop dogg is found not guilty. I thought yo, we thought he was gonna go to jail for murder
29:07Now he's performing that song they couldn't even leave california and like the fact to perform that on stage is crazy like
29:13Walking with the with the olympic torch. I don't think he definitely the most beloved rapper
29:18That most beloved living rapper, I mean there are other people i'm thinking of are like
29:23ll who I think
29:26You know, I mean never had the same
29:29You know shit baggage that snoop would have come with. Yeah, like, you know, even though ll, you know
29:34Obviously the mom knocked you mom said knocked you out like other kind of hard records. He never was like
29:38Fell it like possibly a felon. I think I love him too because he wasn't at a point to go to for the grammys
29:44Uh hosting the grammys and stuff. Yeah. I mean, yeah
29:46Yeah, yeah the fact that he turned into that the fact that he's on tv considered safe by corporate america is different than being
29:54Beloved by everybody. That's I think they're like they usually
29:58If you are that beloved you are usually able to do that, but I don't think just being
30:03Beloved by corporate america is the same. Yeah, you don't think the hood loves. Uh ll I think people love ll
30:08I just don't think but like ll is not like what's the ll stand for, you know, I mean like
30:13You know, but like
30:15ll is still like a little prickly like, you know, like snoop is like super
30:20Friendly like if you if you ask if you ask ll the wrong question, like he'll go off on you
30:25Like he'll i've seen him in interviews where he like snaps on people. He's passionate. Yeah
30:31Okay. Okay
30:33But snoop is like super I think it was usually like approachable or he's like very just seems like
30:39Very chill and cool and I think they're and the thing about snoop is I think they're all genuine
30:43none of them really ever feel like this crazy play like, um
30:47Because I mean you think this is the dude who when he you know came through
30:50Obviously doggy style. This is the kind of stuff that like to think that snoop dog goes from you know being one of the
30:57quintessential death row, you know faces of death row, you know
31:02Labeled sort of by mainstream media, you know
31:04Basic gangster rap and all this and everything you don't want to be and now
31:08Like your grandma would have snoop dog over for dinner and they would kick it and they would have a good time
31:13And he would teach her how to crip walk and all these things and he's still saying and bitches and hoes, right?
31:19But you know, but you do it in a way that's like, you know, oh, that's just snoop the fact that
31:23Snoop, but the fact i'm serious the fact that you know
31:26he's on the olympics the fact that he does even stuff like
31:29I think like back to the little duval song like living my best life smart like the fact that you know
31:34He has a children's brand. Yeah, the fact snoop's out here. He's like all about positivity now
31:37He's about listens to his children's music like yeah, this is just a man like this transformation is crazy
31:44Thank you is what we say is what we say. That's a real song
31:50That exists. That's made by that made
31:53You would say that made layla people's parents would have been crying. That's crazy crying
31:59To say oh my killer since the snoop dog like 30 years ago, that would have been crazy now
32:03It's like yeah, I I think beloved and he's just ubiquitous man
32:06The dude is everywhere like the freaking wine he got which is fire, by the way
32:11It's 19 crimes wine. Yeah hanging out. Like I said with martha stewart
32:14He's a new gin and juice product with dray the gin and juice
32:17He doesn't turn out any commercials, by the way, like I feel like he's on international commercials, too
32:20The fact that he was doing the damn pop out. Uh
32:24Thing what was it the little like mango drinks?
32:27At the pop out y'all know what oh he had did he had the juice right? Yeah. Oh, yeah
32:31Right there like m.e.s. Yeah
32:34But it's like you can do the olympics
32:35Yeah, and like do you know the broadcasting and the events and the dot and still close?
32:40and perform and it none of it feels like
32:43Like hokey like, you know paper play like none of that went to the olympics. He went to the uk
32:49for
32:50Uh an event for gin and juice and him and dray performed. Yeah for abadon
32:56with eminem and they performed like their old hits where he's like
33:02talking about you know street shit and and bitches and hoes and
33:07He went from there
33:10To the olympics. Yeah, and prime time hanging out with billie jean king. I think the thing about snoop is that like we
33:17believe both
33:18of them so much
33:20like there's certain rappers that get to certain like, you know a certain stature or certain status and
33:26They try to like reclaim their old glories and we're like stop it bro. Like just
33:30You're an adult now. You're like a multi multi-millionaire just like leave this stuff behind
33:36but
33:37What snoop is snoop went on a song today?
33:40And was like i'll kill a motherfucker. I'd be like, I believe that you would
33:44He he kept he kept that hood integrity. I believe I believe everything snoop says
33:50Gangster or friendly or like anything? I he's just like the most
33:55uh
33:58Authentic genuine authentic rapper
34:01And I think to go back saves him again, you know to our to our last combo to bring it all together
34:07Snoop does not have a grammy
34:10actually 0 for 16
34:12Yeah, I think but he's still beloved. I think that that might be a record too. I think it was him and brian night
34:18We're up there and I think nikki's up there, too
34:21Wow, yeah. Yeah
34:23um
34:24Okay, go ahead. I got I got because now because now it's got me thinking like
34:28Who who is next up in that kind of like?
34:31Beloved, is there anybody because part of me is like, you know
34:33I could kind of see a 50 kind of getting in that in that lane a little
34:37Like in a way and got another cover today with us weekly. Yeah, you know
34:41It's like hollywood reporter two weeks before because I know you know, I know
34:45You know, obviously we grew up with snoop. So I mean, that's what 50 so at some point, you know
34:50Like even when we get to our, you know middle age and whatnot
34:53We're gonna be always friendly and cool with him and I kind of could see where 50, you know
34:56He's he's already sort of a meme culture kind of dude. He's already sort of me out there doing jokes. So I kind of wonder
35:03He's so mean if but he's he is now he is now to be fair. Could you imagine? Uh, 50 on the olympics white people?
35:12Would probably clown people if they lost like, you know, like the like batons, yeah, he's a quintessential nigga
35:19That's like cracking the code. I'm really trying to think of oh, we got a we got a production note over here who?
35:26She brought a flavor flame
35:28He is beloved. Yeah, that's true
35:31Especially now after the olympics
35:33The favorite red lobster and shout out to him for helping the u.s. Women's water polo team being a sponsor. He really
35:39Even got over there. He paid for them to go. He paid like another olympians rent
35:43Yeah, yeah, because she oh, yeah, because she couldn't make it her and uh, serena williams husband alexis
35:48Is here he's
35:50He's a good dude. Yeah, man. People love him now flavor flavor with my show back. That's yeah. Yeah
35:54Flavor, it's crazy. Like he's one of those dudes where like there's an entire generation that has
36:00Absolutely, no idea
36:02That he was in a rap group. Yeah, I know you guys uh, you didn't mention pock. Yeah in all time
36:08Sense, like why do you feel that?
36:11My my parents think i'll say about pock real quick
36:13They my parents really say that if pock was still alive, they believe he would have won an oscar. I agree
36:19I I think people love pock. He could have been a senator
36:22The shit he did in his 25 years like I think I had a convo with my cousin the other day
36:26I was like, I thought about me at 25
36:29And I was like compared to what this man. Yeah was able to do on a global
36:34Just like the clarity of thought that he had. Yeah, the vision was just so how eloquent he was
36:40The hardest thing as a young person is to one
36:44Just to see what it is that you want
36:47And what you want to do
36:49and then being able to
36:51Transcribe that for other people is so difficult
36:55Yeah, and he did that shit at like 22 years old
36:58Uh, it was incredible now. He's like a myth, you know now he's like so beloved and so heralded that people he's like
37:06I was joking that he's like highly slossy. Like there's like a religion behind him. It's like
37:10um
37:12Yeah, yeah, I think he would have been like a senator an oscar winner
37:15That was i'm not talking music oscar for the record. We're talking acting, you know
37:22His whole beloved
37:25I think well, I think he's definitely respected. Yeah, right. I think he's definitely appreciate I don't know one thing about jay-z
37:30I feel like his people
37:32Now may not feel like they know him
37:34And he certainly is not going to be you know doing things like probably, you know
37:37Sitting for two weeks on the olympics or doing a bunch of commercials. He won't even do a versus, you know, so I think
37:43Yeah, I I guess he chooses to let the catalog and the work speak for itself
37:46and you know his actions in other ways through like the nfl, for example, you know that kind of
37:52Solidifies what his legacy is and his legacy probably seems to be more empowerment, you know
37:56Building black businesses those kind of things that he would say. Um
38:00Are his driving forcing factor so I don't know if that necessarily lends itself to
38:05you know
38:06Going down and hanging out with everybody and you know, kicking it on the beach and all that kind of thing
38:11That's true
38:13But you know, so so, you know legacy in a different way clearly
38:17But shout out to snoop man, because I keep thinking about that 500k if that was a real thing
38:22For two weeks just chilling. That's like that's a cool seven million
38:26Yeah, man
38:27Yeah, we were talking about it doesn't sound crazy for snoop also you talking about him performing with drayton
38:31Um, then he was performing with billy eilish
38:34Yeah, I mean like and yeah, you could tell like billy and snoop probably kick it and he can do anything
38:39He can move he can walk into any room. He'd be comfortable in any any
38:43Circumstance around any group of people
38:46There's no one like him. Yeah, shout out to snoop
38:49um before we rap
38:51Let's give our weekly
38:53music picks
38:55Could be old new. I forgot to send mine, too
38:58Okay, okay as long as you know, that's right nobody would have known if you hadn't
39:04I did but I did my job
39:07Mine's in there too
39:09Okay
39:10It's on it's on the online. Trevor. You want to go first? You want to leave? Okay
39:14Go ahead since you're responsible today. Well, you were first so really it should be you. I mean I can
39:18Okay, then go ahead. Okay
39:21So the one person I want to shout out doing it I am hello I do my job bro one person I want to shout out
39:28Um going in the r&b bag
39:30Miss hailey knox. Um, this is somebody I just got hip to
39:34courtesy of
39:36My co-worker and friend miss hud on
39:38Um, she had a song called. What do you need? I said, let me give it a spin white girl
39:43I don't I think it's like pronounced carmel, new york
39:47And that's where she's from like c-a-r-m-e-l. Yeah. Oh, yeah carmel. Yeah carmel substate
39:54Yeah, carmel, new york. Um, she's been doing the music thing for damn near over a decade
39:58um
39:59She started off doing covers
40:02And she ended up like opening up for charlie poof
40:05She released like her first official project
40:08Last month for the first I think that's her first project in like five six years
40:12She's super dope man. Um singer songwriter producer
40:16It's an eight track ep. Um
40:19Shows a lot of versatility. She has a song called 11th hour, which kind of has like a futuristic sound
40:24She's got a lot of dope cosigns. I know sizzle being her biggest one
40:28um
40:30I just love seeing a white girl out here doing some r&b and making it sound real good
40:34All right, you know, um, so i'm definitely rooting for her top three songs. Like I said, check out 11th hour
40:3911th hour
40:41Innocence and I think what's the other song I was playing? Oh stranger check out those three her ep
40:47For the best out right now fire
40:50All right. Are you trying to come for me? No, I know
40:54I know because I knew you had it. I knew you had it in you even if you didn't I believed
40:58Go ahead. Uh, all right, so i'm gonna switch things up to go over to uh
41:04Our current hot 100 chart topper, that's shabuzy mr. Boozy big boozy
41:11uh, not gonna be a bar song because obviously everybody in the world knows that one, but
41:15Uh shout out to what seems to be the next single that they're pushing
41:18It's a song called drink don't need no mix. Uh with big x the plug shout out the big x the plug. So, you know, um
41:25It's a they shot the video. No mix drink. Don't need no mix. That's texas right? That's it. And so
41:31Uh, okay, I think the video came out. Um, maybe
41:35About a week and a half or so ago. Um, so it's starting to make its way
41:38I'm, not sure where they're gonna push it to radio be kind of interesting but um
41:42I mean, it's definitely a fun song. I know kyle and I were talking about it
41:46So I I sort of get the spiritual kyle cosign on this
41:49um, you know, it's definitely moving in that vein that we've seen obviously with shabuzy being one of the
41:55most active
41:56country hip-hop, you know rap
41:58Uh blenders of the past couple years some you know
42:01we have things like the morgan wallen and moneybag yo song that's out there at the same time kind of doing his thing, but
42:07Uh for big x in particular, I think both versus there's one shabuzy one big x
42:12I mean, they're both fun. Like they're both just about a good time. The hook I think is something that can really
42:18You know, I don't think it's made for instagram per se but I can really expect it to catch up
42:22I mean, it's really just about like, you know, it's drink don't need no mix. What the fuck is this?
42:25I'm trying to get faded this ain't gonna do shit
42:27So you can just see so many captions like, you know
42:30Everybody's gonna take that and run with it
42:32In particular of the shout out to big x I think between big x and boss man boss man d low. I think they're both really having
42:40huge years but kind of a little under the radar because
42:43You know so much of the conversation about rap in particular in the past couple months have been dominated by kendrick by drake
42:47But they're both putting out multiple singles that are really bubbling on the charts
42:51So I think in terms of you know
42:53Once to watch who could be coming up next and people who are really maybe at the end of the year when it's
42:57Recap time and and season ending kind of thing
43:00I think they're gonna surprise people with how well they've been doing even though they haven't necessarily had
43:04That out the box blow up kind of hit and that's one reason i'm excited for big x on this because obviously we see what
43:09Shaboos is doing with a bar song at number one on the hot 100 right now
43:12I'm sure people will be really excited to see what that new single is
43:15And so that can really elevate big x I think to another level get him some more attention and get him
43:20Kind of out there in the field a little more so excited about that song
43:23It's on his album that came out a little while ago, but I think you know
43:26Everybody knows a bar song is kind of removed. So make sure you check out as it's coming up drink. Don't need no mix
43:31It's gonna be everywhere
43:33But I got a good feeling about it. Shout out to big boozy for still keeping his hip-hop roots, man
43:37Yeah, that's the thing too is I think a lot of people would have you know
43:40Expect him to abandon it or whatnot and he seems to be very comfortable
43:43in this
43:44Sort of no man's land just sort of this box of i'ma do you know
43:48What's natural to me whether it's you know country pop hip-hop together, whatever that's him no box
43:53um
43:54I'm gonna do a new song next week. I promise but the album i've been listening to the reason I wore this shirt
44:00Not this album. Are we going nostalgia vibes?
44:03Bring it all the way back. Yeah, it's not it's not this album. It is a different red man album, but that turns
44:11Turns 30 this year
44:15There is a dark side
44:17My red man came out in 94. She's 94. Yeah
44:21Jersey, it was his second album
44:23it is an album that he
44:26refused
44:28refused but he just
44:30Never performs. He stopped performing it years ago
44:34Because when he made it he was in this really really dark space in his life. He was
44:38admittedly on
44:41Copious amounts of drugs
44:44Like the same way that like eminem made
44:47Reportedly made the marshall mathers lp is like the way that this was made but just
44:53The output is just far darker
44:56and if you ever listen to the album, you know, it's
44:59Feels like a demented carnival like it feels dark. It you know, it feels claustrophobic and
45:06he's rapping and
45:08In my opinion
45:09He was rapping at a super high level
45:12um
45:13I think this is the album that really like put people
45:16that made people realize that this guy is much different than um
45:22everyone else
45:23That was around eric serban at the time
45:27It wasn't
45:28the most popular red man album, but to me it's the one that like cemented what red man is and what he could be and
45:34If you haven't listened to it, I would go back and give it a listen. Everything's produced by eric serban and rock wilder
45:41um
45:43yeah
45:44it's a
45:46It's an amazing album and em always has said red man's one of his favorite rappers that he
45:52First time I ever met eminem. He was wearing
45:55A t-shirt with his album cover on it. Wow. No
45:59Uh, it's a great album. It's dark. So if you're in a dark place, I would maybe not listen to it. But uh
46:07It's amazing
46:08Shout out to red man. Shout out to jersey. Shout out to jersey. I will say this man. He still has one of my favorite
46:14uh mtv crib moments
46:17I don't know if y'all yeah, it's amazing
46:19You never seen mtv chris redman. Oh, man, you know, I don't know what it was
46:23I never saw much cribs back in the day. I don't know if I just
46:27But it was super hilarious go watch that on youtube
46:30It's incredible because everybody has like these big grandiose cribs. He kept it super fucking basic
46:36He showed like a regular house in jersey
46:40That wait
46:41It and it looked like you know, it looked like a young man was living there. Yeah, which just this is what it is
46:48Hey, they asked to come by here. They have like the the complex game council system. He's like, yeah, that's my nintendo 64
46:55Wow
46:57Okay, i'm yeah, I missed that shit. All right, 30 years like a box of cereal on top of the fridge
47:02Oh, so it's okay. Okay, you know
47:04That's it yes
47:06Go check it out. Show us truth. I love it. I love it. Go go stream some red man today
47:11There you go, everybody. There you go. Um, we'll be back next week with a fresh episode of billboard unfiltered
47:17We will see you
47:22You