Texter says, "Patriots have clearly 'given up' on this season". After the Judon trade, do you agree? Did the Pats have a choice? Pats playing tonight against Eagles for preseason Game 2. What are you looking for?
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00:00Um, now he will, now Matthew Judon will bring that energy that he always brings as Gerard
00:07Mayo said to the Atlanta Falcons.
00:10And it seems like a wiggy and chime both feel like you got some real value here and it was
00:18your only option.
00:19I got on these, on the Subaru, I don't know what you think about this, but Subaru of new
00:25England text line seven, eight, one text during the break, which I will read verbatim says,
00:32why don't you call the Jude on trade?
00:34What it really is.
00:37Patriots have clearly given up on this season and it's disgusting.
00:41Yeah.
00:42But I said that, I mean, wake up, where the hell have you been?
00:46You just realized that they gave up on the season now.
00:50I mean, did you see the off season?
00:52Did you see the players that signed?
00:54Did you see all the players that the tackles that were available?
00:57You're sitting here on the day of the second preseason game, training camps over, and you
01:03have no tackles, no tackles, not like no depth, which you obviously need on any good team.
01:11You don't have a left or right tackle.
01:13You moved your best tackle to right guard your, your first round pick.
01:17Thanks, Bill.
01:18Cole strange is gone.
01:19The offensive line, you have David Andrews and literally nobody else can play center.
01:25It's an abomination.
01:26And I'm sorry, Robert Kraft is the one who deserves the most blame.
01:31The only year he spent was when Tom Brady won a super bowl and he was embarrassed.
01:37That's it.
01:38That's the only time.
01:39If you want to talk about helping Drake May and this new start and all this stuff, how
01:43about spending like you did when you drafted Mack Jones and you didn't even have to spend
01:47that much.
01:48You brought up Caleb Williams earlier.
01:51At least he has legit weapons around them.
01:54Right.
01:55Well, you did try to make a play for Brandon.
01:57I, but yes, you did.
01:59You made a play for Brandon.
02:00I Robert Kraft was willing to spend on Brandon and people talk about offensive line.
02:05You could have made a play for Tyron Smith.
02:07I think he signed with the jets for like six and a half million.
02:11Devin McCordie yesterday on this show was saying that they're just, they're not a lot
02:15of available free agents when it comes to the old line.
02:19Do you buy that excuse from Devin?
02:21No, no.
02:22Because like I said, Tyron Smith, the guy that was in Dallas who was pretty good in
02:25Dallas was a bit available in free agents, but he had said outright that he wanted to
02:29go to a team that was going to compete for a super bowl.
02:32But I'm not saying that, you know, I'm not like disputing that, but there are guys available
02:38and maybe you throw more money at some guys and you know, maybe guys are willing to say,
02:43okay.
02:44I'm listening to your, your, your, uh, wasn't lead grade, but your assessment early in the
02:48show, whereas like, do guys even want to come here?
02:52I was saying that I think unfortunately you have to accept the reality that the really
03:00the only way to build this team, the next three, four, five years, whatever is going
03:06to be through the draft because people don't want to come here.
03:09And I think that's why Kraft said he's not sure what to expect for the season.
03:13Like he's not giving any promises heading into the season.
03:15Like he has in years past when he was on this show on Friday, I thought he was very honest
03:19about the fact that we're not sure what this team's going to look like once the season
03:23starts.
03:24But I do think he knows what to expect that it's going to be bad.
03:28Yeah.
03:29Like I think that he knows they're going to be nowhere near contention, but he's never
03:32going to outright say that.
03:33So I think this is the closest we'd get.
03:35Yeah.
03:36Yeah.
03:37And when, and I think that's a, like, that's an honest opinion that, that people should
03:40go.
03:41Okay.
03:42I, you know, cause our expectations probably the same way he feels like, well, you know,
03:46I can't tell you how many wins we're going to have, but you know, I'm not going, we might
03:50not have a lot and you know, Greg's going with the under I'm, I'm, I'm caught in the
03:55middle here.
03:56It could be, you think they're going to be, how many wins do you think they're going to
04:00get?
04:01I think that you think they're going to be over if, if they're over, they're only over
04:04by one.
04:05Would Jacoby Brissett is your quarterback.
04:07No, no.
04:08I'm saying I could go either way.
04:09But if the, if I do go over, if it's four and a half, I'm saying what, maybe they get
04:13six wins at best.
04:15You look at their schedule and you start to think about this team.
04:19They could be.
04:20Oh, and seven to start the season off when you start to just go over those first seven
04:26games.
04:27All right.
04:28So at the Bengals, at the Bengals to start the season, that's a loss.
04:31Then home.
04:32I said you could win that.
04:35I think people are overrating the Bengals.
04:38Yes.
04:40But he would say, Shyam, his uncle could also grow boobs.
04:44Yes.
04:45If an if was a fifth, we'd all be drunk.
04:47Week two home versus the Seahawks.
04:50Okay.
04:51All right.
04:52Maybe.
04:53Potential win.
04:54Winnable.
04:55I mean, I think Gillette will be at least half full.
04:57Week three at the Jets.
04:59I would say that's a loss.
05:00Win.
05:01Yeah.
05:02I'm not buying it.
05:03Okay.
05:04Week four at San Francisco.
05:05Could be, could be a mercy rule.
05:06Loss.
05:07I would say blowout.
05:08Week five at home.
05:09Dolphins.
05:10Loss.
05:11Loss.
05:12I would say loss.
05:13Week six at home.
05:14Texans.
05:15Loss.
05:16Two to four.
05:17Can I give you a prediction?
05:18October 20th, when we're not in London, but we should be, when the Patriots play the Jaguars,
05:23Mack Jones beats the Patriots.
05:26It would be the perfect outcome of the absolute cluster F that they've built.
05:31Does Trevor Lawrence get hurt?
05:32Well, you know, last year, right?
05:34They go to Germany.
05:35The worst loss.
05:36And CJ Beathard.
05:37By the way, you're so wrong about Mack being the third stringer, by the way.
05:40I'm not.
05:41He's behind CJ Beathard.
05:42He was phenomenal against the Bucs in the joint practices the other day.
05:46I mean, I hate Mack Jones as much as you do.
05:47I'm not trying to pump his tires, but he is absolutely the backup quarterback.
05:51No, he's not.
05:52Curtis, CJ Beathard is the backup quarterback.
05:54I'm telling you.
05:55Okay.
05:56As a CJ, I'm telling you it's Mack Jones.
05:59You're wrong, but that's okay.
06:02I don't know how much truth there is to it.
06:04ESPN depth shot, which maybe means nothing.
06:07Mack Jones second, CJ Beathard third.
06:10Who started the preseason game?
06:11Oh, CJ Beathard.
06:12Oh, okay.
06:13Well, like I said, I don't, I don't just say in depth chart wise.
06:17Yeah, I don't.
06:18That's what they have.
06:19That's what ESPN has.
06:20And like I said, I don't.
06:21They have him as the backup.
06:26But yeah, I don't.
06:27I don't know.
06:29You say win against Seattle.
06:32All right.
06:33But is your, your defense by losing Jude on still be good, but still won't be the same
06:38thing.
06:39But what is your offense going to look like?
06:41Could your offense be worse this year than it was last year?
06:47Yes.
06:48Oof.
06:49You don't think it could?
06:50No, I'm saying, I mean, what have you added?
06:53I mean, that would actually be an accomplishment if they're worse offensively because they
06:57were historically off.
06:59I mean, I guess you got, you have a couple young wide receivers that should be better.
07:05Kendrick Bourne returns from injury.
07:07Yeah.
07:08Pop Douglas.
07:09You got, but I, but other than that, I like, what have you added that?
07:14I mean, you tell me reset you, but chime, you say like you and Wiggy or maybe it's just
07:19Wiggy say Jacoby Brissett and Mac Jones comp.
07:24No, I never said that.
07:26I'll say that.
07:27Carrot sign facing him over Mac Jones, like a hundred times out of a hundred.
07:31Listen, they're basically the same guy, in my opinion.
07:33Right.
07:34Yeah.
07:35I mean, what is like, what is Jacoby Brissett proven as a backup in this league?
07:40I mean, that's basically what he is.
07:43He's he's there.
07:44He's your version of Brian Hoyer.
07:47And if Brian Hoyer was the starting quarterback for this team, we would all say, what are
07:52you doing?
07:54But people there say that he can manage better than, than Mac Jones or the Drake may.
07:59So Jacobi, what, you know what I mean?
08:02But like going out there, he's able to go with the game flow better than Drake may because
08:07he's probably not going to panic, throw the ball away or he just doesn't throw a million
08:12picks.
08:13That's the thing that you could be percent because he'll hold on to the ball and he'll
08:15end up getting sacked.
08:17Correct.
08:18It's like somebody going, oh, okay.
08:19You know what?
08:20I'm going into this classroom with a bunch of just wild kids that are jumping up and
08:26down the walls and I can't do nothing about it.
08:30And then you bring into the substitute who can't do nothing about it.
08:32So like, what is he able to manage?
08:34Like I, that's the part that I don't get.
08:36I'd rather you just say, you know what, go ahead, Drake, what, what, Hey, I think we
08:43all would.
08:44Right.
08:45But I don't.
08:46So when, when 17 is on the table, right, then your argument is why not just throw Drake
08:52may in there and, and see what you got and give them the live reps and get ready for
09:00next season.
09:01What are the two things we say about quarterbacks and coaches?
09:05How many games you think those guys can win?
09:08So when you look at Drake may, we don't think this coaching staff is worth a win anywhere.
09:13Do you?
09:14I would say B I don't see it.
09:16Right.
09:17You know what I mean?
09:18I look at them and go, all right, you know, bill, you could say it comes up with a great
09:19game plan.
09:20He's able to win you a couple of games.
09:22I think that this off, not Gerard Mayo yet.
09:25No, no, no disrespect because we'll talk to him Monday, but he's already declared that,
09:31you know, when it comes to the offensive side of the football, that his coordinator is the
09:35head coach of the, of the, of the offense.
09:38I mean, it's like, what?
09:40I would ask this question, who gives you a better chance to steal a game, Jacoby percent
09:46or Drake may Drake may.
09:49That's what I would think just based on his, his talent, his athletic ability and where
09:55he is athletically and skill wise versus Jacoby percent.
10:00And fans will have a more attention and be more patients with Drake may struggling than
10:07they will with Jacoby percent because watching Jacoby percent struggle yields nothing.
10:13It's just wasted time and it's nothing personal.
10:15Jacoby percent seems like a good guy.
10:17Like whatever.
10:18It's just, why are you having Drake may watch someone he's already more talented than to
10:24prepare to play a position he's going to inevitably have to play anyway.
10:28He's a, you're a backup for a reason and he's had opportunities to be started in other places
10:34before in Jacoby percent.
10:37It's just when you ask him to say, okay, we need you to be a starter.
10:42That's just not who he is.
10:43We need you to come in for a game or two.
10:45Okay.
10:46What do you think you see tonight?
10:47An empty stadium at that position, your guess is as good as mine.
10:56You're going to see percent for like a, I thought a quarter last quarter.
10:59I, I, my, if I were doing it, I would, I mean, I believe they will have preset for
11:04the first quarter may for the second and then figure out the second half.
11:08I think they're going to, if I have to give my honest assessment, I think they're going
11:12to go series to series.
11:14You do.
11:15Yep.
11:17That's what it looked like.
11:18They were on pace to do last week, but Drake and Jacoby will still split time.
11:22Like they're going to have equal amounts of time.
11:25That's what Gerard Mayo said.
11:26Yeah.
11:27Hey, Jacoby, you're taking the first.
11:30Series with the ones you go three and out.
11:33Guess what?
11:34Drake?
11:35You're up.
11:36I don't think Drake may plays more than three series in the game.
11:39It's going to, and I'm going to be, I'm going to be ludicrously upset about it, but if,
11:44if you don't think he's, if you think you might throw you off being regular, no, that
11:49doesn't happen.
11:50Stress does not impact my regular fact that we were out of the studio completely threw
11:55off your, your BM schedule.
11:58If, if, uh, if that was thrown off by us not being here, I feel like, uh, a, like zero
12:04reps from Drake may will destroy the whole thing.
12:06No, cause it doesn't affect my timing.
12:08It'll affect my mood for sure, but mood doesn't generally impact my regularity.
12:13Good to know.
12:14Regular must be just amazing.
12:16It's the best.
12:17Yeah.
12:18Quite nice.
12:19Great.
12:20What do you think?
12:21You just got to change your diet.
12:22No, no.
12:23No.
12:24Yeah.
12:25Women always have like more issues.
12:27Why don't you drink some of those probiotic sodas that I take a pre probiotic every day.
12:33Oh yeah.
12:34Yeah.
12:35Yeah.
12:36People are all about their gut health.
12:37Yeah.
12:38Yeah.
12:39Gut health is important.
12:40My gut's great.
12:41And I don't take a single thing.
12:42I think guys have just built it.
12:43What is that?
12:44Yes.
12:45My wife says I'm like a basically a, like a ice cream machine.
12:47Oh yeah.
12:48It's like as soon as you eat, as soon as I eat boom, you know, that's only when I have
12:51dairy.
12:52Okay.
12:54Is the goal to get an audience or to lose one?
12:56No, I mean it's, it's just health talk here.
12:58No, it was just very strange this morning.
13:00Curtis, you weren't here.
13:01I wasn't.
13:02So I'm brought off that his whole schedule when it comes to doing that was thrown off
13:05by the fact that we weren't in the studio.
13:07That's why he was unable to be friendly, courteous and friendly to Courtney and I this morning
13:12as he normally is when we walk in.
13:13Yeah.
13:14I had to, I shuffled by real quick and I said, Hey, how are you on my way to the bathroom?
13:20Cause I needed to go.
13:21He has a specific time where he goes every day.
13:24Yeah.
13:25101.
13:26All right.
13:27Well, second preseason game this evening and we will see what we get from the new England
13:33Patriots.
13:34I think it's going to be mostly Jacoby Brissett.
13:37I'm not happy with it, but Devin McCourty convinced me yesterday that the, they're,
13:42they've been set on Joby Jacoby Brissett as being their starter from jump.
13:46So then that means we don't even see Drake maybe a little bit, but we already know they're
13:50not going to put them in there with the twos.
13:52Right?
13:53Yeah.
13:54So sadly.
13:55Right.
13:56So then he won't, I mean, then he won't play.
13:59You keep begging Mayo to listen to you.
14:01He doesn't listen.
14:02No, he doesn't.
14:04He's not making the decision.
14:05I think AVP in and, and, uh, Elliot Wolf are making the decision because if you're scared
14:12of your starting offensive line and the holes you have there, you think they're going to
14:18put Drake man with the second and third offensive lineman.
14:23I mean, I hope I, what are you going to, when are you going to see him?
14:26I, I will.
14:27I mean, you spent the, you spent the third pick on him.
14:30So I like, that's why, that's why I believe tonight it's going to be series to series
14:37with the ones in there.
14:38If we're going to call Alex Van Pelt AVP, can we call Elliot Wolf E-dubs if you'd like,
14:43you can do whatever you want.
14:44Right.
14:45All right.
14:46I'll be in regular.
14:47Uh, so you, uh, you have that preseason game to talk about all day long here on Boston
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