Should the Patriots make a run at acquiring 49ers WR Brandon Aiyuk. He may want out. What should the Patriots offer?
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00:00Brandon Ayuk, News Wigs, I am just, could you give me why the Patriots, I understand
00:07that Ayuk may not want to come here.
00:09Brandon Ayuk, if you missed it, is asking again for a trade from the 49ers, obviously
00:14the Patriots have a clear need.
00:16According to Josina Anderson, the Patriots have reached out again to restart or reignite
00:21talks about the wide receiver.
00:23Absent Ayuk saying, I don't want to come to the Patriots, they have more money than anybody
00:29under the cap, if you believe in that.
00:31They could front load the deal so that it's not punitive, so that in two to three years,
00:35if you're closer to competing, then he's not there.
00:37And Ayuk makes Drake May better, where you can also say, we know if he's the guy or not
00:44sooner.
00:45Like why, what is the case the Patriots would make against doing this?
00:51That I think the only case is that they don't want to spend the money, or no, here's what
00:54they would say.
00:55They might not want to give up the draft capital.
00:59So they're not close.
01:00They need as many draft picks as possible.
01:02Or that's just too rich for our blood and what Ayuk is going to go for.
01:08Is it going to be a first round draft pick?
01:11Is it going to be a second round draft pick?
01:12Who was it, Shyam?
01:13Who was the receiver that was traded this offseason?
01:18Wasn't there a receiver that was traded this offseason?
01:21Justin Jefferson was rumored, but he signed a massive deal.
01:25I feel like there was somebody that was traded, because we were trying to figure out after
01:28the season what you'd have to give up for Brandon Ayuk.
01:32And I thought maybe late first round, but I don't think it's Keenan Allen.
01:40I don't know.
01:41I'll look for it.
01:42But Deontay Johnson?
01:43No, no, no.
01:44It was the only ones I could come up with that I can remember that were traded.
01:47So you got to figure out, like, what do you think it would cost the Patriots to get Brandon
01:50Ayuk?
01:52Second round pick or first?
01:53Right.
01:54I mean, my guess is that the 49ers are going to try and get a first.
01:57I don't think you're getting a first at this stage.
01:59But even if it was a first, I know this is crazy.
02:04If you're drafting next year in the top five, OK, let's say worst case scenario, the Patriots
02:08today trade for Brandon Ayuk.
02:10Brandon Ayuk comes here.
02:12The team's a dumpster fire.
02:13He gets hurt.
02:14And the 49ers have the fourth pick in the draft from you, right?
02:20You're not taking a quarterback because you just got Drake May.
02:24And wouldn't you sign up for a Brandon Ayuk caliber wide receiver at that spot anyway?
02:31So in other words, you're just fast tracking the pick from next year in the first round
02:34today.
02:35And you're giving it to a guy in Drake May who needs all the weapons he can get because
02:41you can't repeat the mess that you made with Mac Jones, where we know Mac isn't the guy
02:46now.
02:47He was born.
02:49But unlike with Chua and the weapons they surrounded him with, Mac was never really
02:54given a shot.
02:56Why would you repeat that error with a guy in Drake May?
03:01The thing that I look at with Brandon Ayuk, he's a proven NFL wide receiver.
03:07Anybody that you would-
03:08And Steph Diggs was traded.
03:09Oh, OK.
03:10Yeah, Steph Diggs.
03:11That's who I'm thinking of.
03:12Steph Diggs.
03:13And he went for, I want to say, a second round pick?
03:18So if you have a-
03:19Ayuk is not a first then.
03:20That's a second at the bare minimum.
03:21That's my point.
03:22So if-
03:23No, Ayuk is going to draw more than Steph Diggs.
03:25People view Steph Diggs as on the way out, like on the back end.
03:28And he's only on a one year deal.
03:30So you'd be trading for Ayuk assuming you're giving him a massive contract extension.
03:34Right.
03:35But I don't think you have to give up.
03:36I think if you traded a second round draft pick or maybe, you know, two second round
03:40draft picks, you could get Brandon Ayuk.
03:42I don't, I'm not 100% sure you have to give up a first round.
03:46But either way, I would still give up a first round draft pick.
03:48If your second round pick next year turns into Brandon Ayuk, you're pretty effing happy.
03:52Yeah, that's a win.
03:53Even if your first round pick turns into Brandon Ayuk.
03:56Of course.
03:57And that's like, what, these teams that won a lot, and it's not just the Patriots over
04:04the last few years, it's really specifically the Patriots and the Red Sox.
04:07There's this mantra from the fans and the media that say, well, they're not close.
04:11Why do you want them to bring in Calvin Ridley?
04:13They're not that close.
04:14Why do you want them to bring in, you know, name the offensive tackle du jour?
04:18Well, because the more good players you have on your team, the less ones you need to add.
04:24And the more opportunity you get to see, we all agree, if Drake May is good this year
04:30and they go five and 12, it's a successful season, correct?
04:34You know, you have your quarterback.
04:35That's the biggest thing.
04:36If Drake May stinks and you go seven and 10 somehow, that's a bad year.
04:42So why wouldn't you do everything in your power?
04:45I don't necessarily think if he's good and they go five and 12, people are going to be
04:48thrilled.
04:49Like I do.
04:50I would be ecstatic.
04:51I think you're in the minority.
04:54Like I really think that Patriots fans have had it at this point.
04:57It's been three seasons now of Robert Kraft saying that this is not who we are.
05:01We need to be better.
05:02Like we need to be going to playoffs again.
05:04So five and 12 for me is not good enough.
05:06If Drake May is good, I'm expecting that this team will be good around him.
05:10But let's say they go one and seven and their first eight games with Jacoby Brissett.
05:15They stink.
05:16And then they go four and five.
05:17So you're saying it starts with Jacoby Brissett, then they bring in Drake?
05:21Drake May.
05:22I mean, I'm saying like-
05:23So you're saying you want to see, like you want to see, the record might not be as important
05:28for Drake May as his performance.
05:32So if he plays well and their record's not good, but you could go, okay, it looks like
05:38you found the guy, then you're going to have fans that are happy about that is what you're
05:43saying.
05:44Right.
05:45It's a je ne sais quoi.
05:46I remember when Bledsoe took over in the nineties and they weren't a great team, but we saw
05:51an actual quarterback that could fire the ball down the field that was coming back late
05:55in games that showed some juice.
05:57Gillette or Foxborough Stadium at the time was alive.
06:01You just sort of know it when you see it.
06:02You saw the quarterback of the future.
06:03Right.
06:04He was, he was, he was right there.
06:06I get what you're saying.
06:07I think that, I think that the Patriots, if you get a guy like Brandon Ayoub, I think
06:13the Patriots and in today's football world of football, it's easy to turn it around.
06:19It is easy.
06:20Like, do we think they're going to be good on defense?
06:22Yes.
06:23All right.
06:24So if we think they're going to be good on defense and you add a guy like Brandon Ayoub,
06:29who is obviously going to help that wide receiver room, you drafted some guys, you're bringing
06:33in a, you got Ramondre Stevenson coming back, who's going to be good in the run game.
06:39As long as he stays healthy.
06:40Yeah.
06:41Yeah.
06:42I mean, that's all team.
06:43But I know, but he's had issues.
06:44Right.
06:45But take the, cause any injuries for a lot of teams, especially the significant players
06:48is going to derail their seasons.
06:51If Drake may plays solid football and you add pieces around them, you can easily turn
06:58around your team and be a good football team and be a team that can fight for a playoff
07:03spot.
07:04You might not be competing with the Kansas city chiefs, but you could say, all right,
07:07this team has the ability.
07:09Look at, we talk about the Houston tech Texans.
07:12Look at the Cleveland Browns.
07:13I mean, you could easily turn things around with adding the right offensive player that
07:19makes your offense much better because defensively teams have to concern themselves with that
07:25guy.
07:26They just have so many ways that fans could get mad at them right now.
07:28So say they go five and 12 and it's Curtis's a way that he lays out the season.
07:32They start with Jacoby preset.
07:34He doesn't do well.
07:35And then they bring in Drake may.
07:36Okay.
07:37That's great for Drake.
07:38May.
07:39That's great for the future of the Patriots.
07:40But then you have a bunch of fans and I bet a bunch of media that says, well, why didn't
07:43you start with Drake may from the beginning?
07:44Because I think even on this show, we're split on who wants to see Jacoby preset start, who
07:48wants to see Drake may start.
07:50Yeah.
07:51I would say that.
07:52Yeah.
07:53So I want Drake may.
07:54Yeah.
07:55I think it's, yeah, I think Greg is holding on to Jacoby.
07:59Yeah.
08:00For me, I mean, for our purposes, it's just better to have Drake may playing.
08:02He's much more of a story than Jacoby preset, who seems like a very nice guy.
08:05However, I would say the Patriots, if they look competent and I mean, no like brain cramps
08:14with the coach getting the play in no too many men, no receivers or tight ends running
08:18into each other.
08:19If the offense is actually something you can watch without averting your eyes, that is
08:24basically where I am.
08:25Like they have been so bad.
08:27I think most people are like that.
08:28Like they were so historically awful.
08:30They were so tedious to watch.
08:32It was the only time in my life watching the Patriots felt like work because it was for
08:36work.
08:37Like I wouldn't have watched the team at the end of last season if I didn't do this for
08:39a living.
08:40They were so unwatchable.
08:41I think most people are like that.
08:42The only thing I would make people upset because I don't think anybody has really high expectations
08:47for this team.
08:48No.
08:49I think the only thing that would really have people upset with this football team is if
08:54Drake may look like Zach Wilson, right?
08:57If he goes out there and performs like Zach Wilson, we're like, Jesus, what the hell?
09:01This guy stinks.
09:02And he's just repeating mistakes over and over again, right?
09:04We're like, this guy stinks.
09:06I think that's when fans would be upset.
09:08Why the hell do we draft this guy?
09:09You know, to get into that.
09:11But if he looks decent and say the team is, you know, they're not winning, but he's playing
09:17decent.
09:18They're competitive.
09:19I don't think fans will be upset if they are one in seven, they'll be upset in the sense
09:23of their record, but they'll look at it and go, it looks like we have our quarterback
09:28of the future.
09:29The coaching staff is going to get it, you know, probably be next year.
09:34And I don't think a lot of people are coming into the season with high expectations.
09:40Who is taking them to go over, what's an over and under, four and a half wins?
09:45Yeah.
09:46I mean, I'm on an island with that.
09:47But yeah, I mean, and the other thing is when the Patriots, let's say as Courtney and I
09:51have been saying, if they go one in seven, right, there will be fans that say, don't
09:56win because then you're talking like we did last year where it's like, oh, we just need
10:00a top five pick.
10:01If you win and it screws up the future, we got to get someone good there.
10:03So anyway, Patriots in the news, thankfully, with some reporting on Brandon, are you potentially
10:07being traded here by the 49ers?
10:10According to Jocena Anderson, the Patriots have inquired and restarted talks of trying
10:16to get the wide receiver to come.