Why are Pats missing on big name players?
Why are the Patriots missing out on the big time Free Agents and trade acquisitions? They lost out on Ridley, and now potentially Aiyuk. Wiggy: "It's about the money." Thoughts?
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00:00If you were an aspiring tight end, already established yourself,
00:04would you ever want to come to a team with no offensive line,
00:08an inexperienced quarterback, and a team, more importantly,
00:13that's averaged a total of 13 points a game over the last four years?
00:18Come on, why does anyone want to come here as a receiver? Nobody does.
00:22It is not about the money, it's about you cannot
00:26further your career in New England right now as it stands.
00:30It's clearly about the money, so he's going to further his career in Cleveland?
00:36Well, he must think he has a better opportunity to do it there or Pittsburgh.
00:42He won't go to Cleveland either.
00:43Okay, so where's he going?
00:45Right in San Francisco. He'll stay right in San Francisco where he has a chance
00:50to continue to be a star. What I'm trying to say is we can't get Calvin Ridley
00:55we can't get T. Higgins, we'll never get C.D. Lamb unless Tom Brady...
01:01No, I'm kidding about that.
01:02What I'm saying is who wants to come here?
01:05It is not an opportunity to continue to be a star. That's what I'm trying to say.
01:11So why isn't he in San Francisco?
01:13But Belichick...
01:16People say he's not going here, he's not going there, he'll stay in San Francisco.
01:20Why isn't there a deal done in San Francisco?
01:22Well, I mean, I'm assuming from his perspective, maybe it's a hold up.
01:29He wants to force them to give more money now.
01:32So then it's about the money, right?
01:34Yeah.
01:34It's always about money.
01:35It's about the money. Can we stop with the nonsense?
01:38Right, but the argument that you can just offer him more here and he will take it
01:44forces you to consider the other things that are around it.
01:48Right.
01:49And it might not be the potential to win.
01:54It might just be that it's not, I don't know, maybe Derek's right.
01:58Maybe it's not an attractive place.
02:01You know, you have to live in Foxborough.
02:03You can't live in the city.
02:05You have to...
02:05A lot of players live in the city.
02:07Right.
02:08Some, but most guys end up...
02:10Yeah, I mean...
02:11What's the difference?
02:11Cam Newton did.
02:12Right.
02:13The younger guys tend to.
02:14Julian Adelman.
02:15Brady did when he was young.
02:16I had Rolls-Royce.
02:17Nelson Aguilera.
02:19In my building.
02:20Yeah, he dropped it though.
02:22Jules, Gronk.
02:24So all of a sudden Cleveland and Pittsburgh is a great place.
02:28I could see if you go in Miami or Cali, but we stop with that.
02:32Like no one wants to come here.
02:33I don't see many people running to Cleveland and Pittsburgh.
02:37It's about the money.
02:39And how many people where you work, thank you, Derek, do anything but take the most money?
02:44I mean, in every field, 90% of all decisions are made based on what is best financially
02:49for the person.
02:51So why do we think athletes are any different?
02:53Right.
02:53Because if it wasn't about the money, he would have took the San Francisco deal if there
02:57was the deal out there.
02:58Right.
02:59Especially NFL wide receivers who are notorious for being the biggest divas in sports.
03:04They only care about the money and the fame.
03:06Those are the two top things on their list.
03:09Yeah.
03:10And so I don't get when people say, I think that it's, I think what his camp is trying
03:17to do, whether it's Cleveland, Pittsburgh or New England is push them up to the highest
03:24bid and to whoever the highest bidder is, that's where he's going.
03:28As long as the package is good enough for San Francisco.
03:33I guess Pittsburgh's not offering a good enough package.
03:36And so that's why San Francisco is like, nah, we'd rather deal with Cleveland and New
03:41England, but that's where he'll end up.
03:43And if he doesn't end up here, it is part of the millionaire's tax, which means you
03:47got to go above and beyond.
03:48And I think what I think it was Tom Pellicero, I don't know, maybe Mike Reese, but the reporting
03:53on this last night was that he wants to go.
03:56Brandon Ayuk wants to be in Pittsburgh for whatever reason.
04:00And they've been bringing up the Browns and the Patriots as a means to get the Steelers
04:05to give more because they clearly didn't have the same trade package that the Patriots
04:10had.
04:10That's what I believe is at the bottom of all of this.
04:12And the money is going to be relatively equal.
04:15But it's not really saying that Brandon Ayuk doesn't want to come here.
04:17It's saying that the Patriots fell off of the deal.
04:21So like, it seems like it was on the Patriots side, not on San Francisco side.
04:25No, I think the Patriots realized that the deal had been agreed to with the 49ers, but
04:29the player wasn't going to sign here.
04:31So they weren't going to just keep doing this roundabout, if that makes sense.
04:34That they were just being used by Ayuk to try and get more money or more things out
04:40of the Steelers, because he's not going to sign here anyway.
04:43This is Charlie from Boston.
04:45Hey, Charlie.
04:47Hey, great call.
04:48Sorry, not great call.
04:49It's going to be a great call, but great show this morning.
04:53God, it's early.
04:54Simon, early.
04:56But yeah, so it's a combination of the money and the situation.
04:59It's like, it's one of those things where like no amount of money will get me to the
05:03pass because the situation is terrible.
05:05It's going to kill my career.
05:06This is where I come to die.
05:07No money's worth that.
05:09Wait a minute.
05:10This franchise, this legendary franchise has become where you go to die?
05:18Right now, because he's not young, is he?
05:20Yeah, he's only 25.
05:23Yeah, but I mean, it's peak value right now from somewhere else where he can actually
05:26play well.
05:27If he comes here and stinks, it's toast.
05:29Yeah, but it's peak value for him to make the most money.
05:33So this is his best opportunity to make money because after he hits 30 years old, they're
05:36not going to pay him this kind of money.
05:37Right.
05:38So for the next five years, because he'll probably sign a four-year deal is when he's
05:42really going to maximize his potential, his potential earning.
05:45So you're going to go to that.
05:47And what does Pittsburgh have to offer?
05:49You have a bit.
05:50When you say your quarterback potential is better here than it is in Pittsburgh.
05:55I mean, potential.
05:58Russell Wilson.
05:59I know we can't stick.
06:01We can't stand him.
06:03But I mean, he's been in the league for no, but I'm saying your potential amount of time.
06:08Greg, you saw him in Denver.
06:10He's terrible.
06:11He lost to Bailey Zappi.
06:12He's so bad.
06:14I know he didn't start Denver.
06:16Steady is penciled in as the starter.
06:19Yeah, it's OK.
06:20Bone X will start on week one of the regular season.
06:22It's fine.
06:24That's going to be a friggin train wreck over there.
06:27Greg, all I'm saying is potential.
06:29Like where like if you look projection wise on where the quarterback for the Patriots,
06:36Drake may will be versus the quarterbacks of Russell Wilson and Justin Fields in the
06:44next three to four years, I would think projection wise, people would say New England has the
06:49better of the quarterback.
06:53So I don't like I can see if it was Kansas City or if it was the charges or if it was
07:01Cincinnati where you were like or was even Buffalo and you go, OK, well, it's Josh Allen
07:05or even Baltimore.
07:07But Pittsburgh and Cleveland, I'm not buying that.
07:11He doesn't want to come to destination issue.
07:14Yeah, I'm not buying that.