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00:00And the name that's starting to ring out a little bit and we talked about this yesterday was Tyler Hughes the wide receiver coach
00:05Yeah, something's off in the wide receiver room if you hadn't noticed so let's blame the position coach
00:10So again, I I don't blame him if they fired him at the end of the year
00:14What do I care? Like I barely even knew his name. So like I don't care
00:17It's not like the wide receivers are good
00:19It's not like I I even knew much about him as a hire in the first place
00:22So if he's gonna pay for it with his job at the end of the year, whatever
00:24Yeah, but then they're bringing somebody else like that but in the middle of the season
00:28To be like throwing his name out there. That feels like people are now trying to
00:34Point the finger at others at a self-preservation. Yeah, alex and belt is like yeah, the receivers stink but
00:40Well, it's one of those things if they go two or three wins or mayo's doing it or something
00:43And and if I think mayo's gonna survive it because of craft and I think wolf
00:49Would probably survive it just because of that job a one and done gm is kind of crazy
00:55Right and so I think the next obvious guy would be alex van pelp
00:58But let's say drake may likes alex van pelp. What if drake may individually plays pretty well?
01:04Doesn't van pelp get some credit for that?
01:06And then you should you wouldn't want or nobody would want five offensive coordinators in five years
01:11So maybe they then say all right. Well, we got to get rid of somebody. We just won three games
01:15Right. Oh the wide receiver coach and nobody would buy that. Nobody would be like, okay, they mean business now
01:21I mean with the I would say the only exception would be
01:25Dante skarnecchia as far as a position coach that you felt like really really mattered
01:32I'm sure they all have you know a layer of importance even even him
01:35They want a super bowl without skarnecchia people forget that
01:37No, that's true
01:37They want a super bowl without skarnecchia in 2014
01:39But he was like the one guy that you would really feel like all right
01:41He can take a group of you know
01:43C and d level players and get him to play like a b level player like he he could do that
01:47Everybody else you're like, all right, they're there
01:50But it's more important what the offensive coordinator thinks of the wide receivers than what the wide receiver coach is
01:57You know can can anybody name all the wide receiver coaches from 01 to 18 here?
02:03Yeah, god. No, of course, of course
02:05It didn't really matter or the tight ends coaches or whatever else like no, of course not
02:10So the fact that this guy's name's getting tossed around there at the midway point. It just is sort of like that. Okay, he's
02:17Well, I would say we're taking it seriously we'll let somebody go no people are fighting for their job already
02:21Yeah, people on the coaching staff are fighting for their jobs. Maybe it's mayo. Maybe it's van pelt could be elliot wolf guys
02:26I mean covington's name got thrown out two weeks ago
02:30Going into the jets loss coming out of the jaguars game covington's name was thrown out
02:34The latest one is the wide receivers coach
02:36So just know there's a lot of finger pointing and people are trying to protect their job already
02:40On this coaching staff because they know where it's going. So that's the backdrop for the trade deadline yesterday keith. They do nothing
02:46I told you i'd be annoyed by doing nothing like I just do something make a trade
02:50They did nothing to subtract from the roster make a trade to add to the roster do something
02:55It's it's your job. Your roster's horrible. This is a day to get it done. Other teams got stuff done
03:01You did not so i'm frustrated by that. I'm annoyed by it. I wouldn't say i'm surprised
03:04No, um, but how do you feel with the trade deadline passing missed opportunity? Uh
03:09I thought just to clear up guys, I I you know, I didn't I wasn't saying they needed to buy or get anybody
03:14I think they need to be more all hands on deck in the offseason use all of your picks all of your money all
03:19of that in the offseason
03:20but I did think it was a good opportunity to
03:23Spin a couple of guys maybe move up in the draft
03:25I don't think you had anybody that you really wanted to part with that was going to get you anything of value
03:31But could you have traded kj osborne and taekwon thornton, you know for a six round pick and you throw in your seventh?
03:37So you move up a few spots, but more importantly just get those guys off the team
03:42Focus on the five receivers that you have the five guys that you want to develop maybe one or two of them
03:48Sticks and like is a part of drake may's future
03:52I was keeping everybody on the on the team. It made no sense to me
03:56I wasn't up. I wasn't that upset though that they didn't get anybody
03:59Okay, so I I was frustrated by that but i'm with you
04:01They at least should have subtracted from the wide receiver room thornton kj osborne
04:05I would cut either of them today. Like they don't need to be on the team and you're probably right
04:09There's very little value in those guys what we're really getting back. It was more about subtracting
04:13How about this from my girl jocina anderson? All right
04:16Couldn't read the tweet. So I had to read it from my guy savage sports. She blocked you pretty pretty hard
04:22As for the patriots, okay, she apparently tweeted. Yes
04:25it takes two sides to make a deal and the pats aren't going to give away players like
04:30christian gonzalez what
04:32Key on white. All right, devon godshell
04:35Or kyle duggar who teams have been asking for per source
04:39Wow, so teams are calling about christian gonzalez. I mean, I guess you might as well call on it, but like
04:44That'd be dumb if they traded gonzalez. I agree those other guys
04:48Key on white godshell dugger. So when you say there aren't guys of value
04:52They could have moved and the wide receiver room. I agree
04:54Key on white gets you something godshell gets you something dugger gets you something now
04:59I don't know. Yeah
05:01Fifth or sixth, is that too high? So, okay
05:03I think anything on the third day of the draft to me isn't really
05:07Much but sure you could have you could have gone after that
05:09But would you rather have godshell or would you rather have a future sixth like I don't care like
05:15And gotcha's not a guy i'm trying to get rid of either or like or dugger
05:18And even key on white like I think you need to get him back on track the first couple games of the season
05:23He looked like one of your best players. Yeah, and a guy that's gonna be like a good pass rusher
05:28He's also the guy that we think everybody is kind of sneaky calling out being like going in for himself
05:32He still hasn't learned what a horse collar tackle tackle is. He had another one this week
05:36So he still hasn't figured that out. No, he has can't drag guys down by the horse
05:39Well, they're not gonna take him out. They don't it doesn't really matter
05:41but you know, that's funny that they get calls on on all of those guys, but again, i'm not
05:46I
05:47The out of that group the only one that I would laugh at would be gonzalez
05:50The other ones I would listen and be like, all right
05:51What are you thinking and whatever but I don't think it's like a net positive to see those guys
05:55That's part of my frustration is it's like elliot wolf teams are calling you about all these guys and you don't have to give them
06:00Away, and maybe you just weren't getting a fair offer and there's your answer
06:03But there was interest in your roster and you don't do anything like now that I got you on the phone
06:07What about a taekwon thornton? I know you called about christian gonzalez, but what about a fast click?
06:14So I that that's a little frustrating to me they were getting calls about and I wouldn't deal gonzalez either
06:18I'd listen on anyone on this roster short of drake may I guess i'd listen on you want to get crazy and give me like
06:23Four first round picks for gonzalez fine. Well, yeah, so i'll listen on anyone is my point. Yeah. Yeah
06:28But like i'm not itching to give away gonzalez
06:30You know, maybe trade his future radio interview rights like i'd do something like that. No, no, he's locked in monday
06:34I'm, not trying to trade him off the team
06:36But some of those other players they should be listening on and haggling over
06:39I just feel like elliot wolf wasn't getting anything done. I know he didn't get anything done
06:42I feel like he wasn't doing in that position. There's basically three opportunities to really improve your team, right? There's the free agency
06:49There's the draft and then there's the trade deadline now the trade deadline is the least of those three
06:54Yes, but how do you think he's done in those three?
06:57Oh horrible fail fail fail fff, right?
07:00So drake may we all like but he gets zero credit for it. You can't be a fail because they got
07:05That can't be a fail. What is this? Great? What is this draft grade?
07:08I mean, I guess I would probably say like a c right now because you hit on drake may but it was obvious
07:14It was like putting your name on the sat like you get points for that
07:16The one thing you give the organization credit for I don't even know if you give wolf credit for it
07:20Is they didn't trade back from three but like polk and baker were two of your high picks. Yeah, those are
07:24Horrible not working out horrible and like maybe the lineman will be okay
07:28I don't know like so I would say the draft has been the best of the three
07:34He then does nothing in free agency other than resign
07:38A lot of the guys are on the team last year
07:40And then trade deadline comes and not that a lot of teams are really altering their rosters
07:44But it is an opportunity to add or subtract
07:47He flips ushe for a late
07:51Pick next year. That's all that's the only movie did in season
07:55It's been bad. It's been really really bad and
07:58I think next year it's got to be
08:00How that one goes like he could he could be a two and done
08:03If if he has another bad free agent cloud, you think one and done. I don't I
08:08If I was wagering on it, he's probably back next year, but I don't think he's like safe by any means
08:13Like he's like a lock. I don't think he's a lock to be back. Okay, i'd probably bet on it
08:16Yeah, but I make bets that lose all the time
08:19I don't think he's a lock by any means to be back next year. I don't think mayo's a lot to be back
08:23It's uh, so I still think he is but I I get I get where you're coming from
08:27I just think that robert kraft after 20 years of bill belichick. They then need to replace
08:33Basically bill belichick with two people and they went so far
08:38As to replace him with two guys that were working for him
08:40Like they didn't open up this big search for either one of those spots true
08:44He just went with the guy that he hired five years earlier in gerard mayo
08:49And then elliot wolf who was just sort of there there there there and then just promoted and finally got the job
08:54Like he didn't have the title of the draft. Did he remember that?
08:57It was like a whole weird thing. Uh, no, he uh, he did not but he had been on the staff for a couple years
09:01and so it's not like
09:02Robert kraft really started interviewing guys from all around the league for that spot trying to find uh,
09:08florio
09:09I don't know if you feel like he's uh, he tosses nonsense out
09:14Worth checking into but again, this aligns with the the betting lines that you brought up last week keith. Yep
09:19He had the patriots 30th. He asked the question will gerard mayo be one and done. Okay. Yeah. Yeah
09:24So like that's a good question
09:25Maybe he's just throwing stuff out
09:26Maybe like I don't think gerard mayo is a lot to be back
09:29I don't think elliot wolf is a lot to be back and I will give you what I think is tangible evidence
09:34That people there are nervous
09:36Covington's name getting thrown out two weeks ago. Tyler. Hughes's name getting thrown out right now
09:40People are pointing fingers could be van pelt could be beneath mayo could be beneath elliot wolf
09:44But to me that that's a sign that people are gonna people in the organization
09:49Yeah are gonna pay for this disaster with their jobs. I think we'll have one building block
09:53Yeah, but I don't think it'll be mayo and I think to that point so I think you could get into next year
09:57and
09:58elliot alex van pelt again
10:00I think is is going to be at the center of this and it's going to be about how drake may is playing
10:04But tyler hughes to marcus covington. Oh my god. I wouldn't bet on those guys coming back
10:09No, I think mayo does come back, but he only comes back if you
10:13Claim to make all these other big changes which how big are they like the head coach is still here and and on
10:18I feel like van pelt has gotten safer. Tell me if you agree with this
10:21Week one and maybe you still think van pelt won't be back. But from week one until now
10:26Has alex van pelt increased or decreased his?
10:30Likelihood of being back
10:31Increased I think so. He has a much better chance of being back
10:34And so now it's like the guy who I think was ready to be a scapegoat looks a little safer and
10:38Someone's gonna have to pay for it. I mean, there's still eight more games, you know, and a lot of
10:43There's a lot of options like if kraft wants a scapegoat on the coaching staff or the front office
10:46There's a lot a lot of people you can choose from plenty of guys. No, I know more than on the ballot yesterday
10:51Yesterday, I'm, wow. There's a pile of names on there. Who are these guys? I haven't seen their ads. They could do you a favor and put
10:59Put the republican and democratic candidates just group them at the top
11:03Yeah, I don't need it to be alphabetical like I get a little thrown off and i'm like jill stein's up here
11:07I'm, like I guess i'm over jill stein pretty high up there
11:10So, yeah, no their level of commitment though, he's got more choices I feel like uh, realistically than the ballot yesterday
11:15Yeah to scapegoat somebody if he'd like