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00:00Will the Patriots be sellers at the deadline?
00:03Are they already sellers at the deadline? I mean they've traded their two best pass rushers
00:09Maybe I don't know you can maybe make an argument for Dietrich Weiser Keon white as being one of the other ones
00:13But in terms of you know with cache a judan beginning of the year
00:18Traded him for a third round pick because he was being disruptive
00:21I think that was as much a part of it as anything else and now Josh who shea who has
00:26Just this one year, so he's a rental in Kansas City. He didn't give up a lot to get him a sixth round pick
00:31It's a little bit of draft capital
00:33and I think that in general the Patriots right now don't have a lot of really great options and
00:38Guys that they can dangle out there for big returns
00:41I just sort of think this is it you want to get some addition by subtraction
00:44Maybe in that wide receiver room I could listen to that
00:47We know that Elliot Wolfe said that this is not going to be a tank job
00:51But it seems like they're already beginning their their fire sales what it looks like anyway
00:56There's no other reason to trade Josh who shea is there?
00:59Well, I mean he hasn't really been productive
01:02So if somebody was gonna give me something for something that hasn't really been productive
01:06I mean you can make an argument
01:08But on a team that has limited pass rush to start with and as you said
01:13Traded their Pro Bowl pass rusher before the year started if the Patriots were six and two they wouldn't have traded Josh who shea yesterday
01:19I don't think probably not I mean if they were six and two it wouldn't be because of him
01:24No, I'd agree with that too, but I don't know they wouldn't be peeling off pieces
01:28I mean he had as everybody points out he not only did he have a half a season a couple years ago
01:33He had like a half of a half a season. It was like a little game stretch where he rode judan's coattails
01:38No, the only question I have here is
01:42Elliot Wolfe's comments that you just alluded to like we would never tank that is the most ridiculous thing
01:48I've ever heard it and now all I hear from reports from Diana Rossini and our buddy Mike Giardi
01:55Patriots have made it clear that they are ready to sell they are open for business. They you already trade who shea
02:02Devon Godchow, he's on the block Kendrick Bourne. He's on the block
02:06I haven't heard any reports of Jonathan Jones
02:10But we've speculated that he could be a guy that could be on the block and he dread we addressed it with him yesterday
02:15And he said, you know people have asked me about it
02:17But I don't know anything and I want to stay here
02:19So we'll see but I just don't see how you can be so I don't care if they trade people
02:24I just want to be clear about that. I would probably be trading people
02:27I would probably be opening up opportunities for every young player to play
02:31because the reality is
02:33Devon Godchow who for some reason you gave a contract to and
02:37Kendrick Bourne who you also gave a contract to which is weird that you give contracts to him in the offseason
02:42Then you're looking to unload them a few months later weird, but they're not part of
02:47A the long-term future, but really the foundation
02:50I don't really see a where at best Kendrick Bourne is a role player. We did this whole exercise. Yeah, there's only a couple
02:56There's like three guys their foundational players on this as long as you're not men none of them are over 25 really gone
03:02So may bar more as long as those names aren't in the mix, then you're not trading anything
03:07That's really a part of the foundational future. Yeah, nothing that's nailed down. So Elliot Wolfe trade away except
03:14You
03:15Stink a little bit because you said you would never tank and if you trade away your best talent
03:20You're taking it. You can call it. Whatever you want to call it. Mm-hmm, but it's tanking
03:23You're not trying to win football games. You're not improving your roster. You're
03:28Lessening your roster like you you aren't
03:31focused on winning football games in a week where
03:34You finally won a football game and it's nice that you want a football game and everybody's telling me they loved it
03:4071% of Patriots fans can't be wrong. So that more than that like 85% really if we're being honest here
03:45And if we're being honest, they can be wrong and they definitely can as a group
03:48They're often wrong. You people are wrong a lot. I have to work with Fitzy all the time
03:52He is one of the stronger
03:54members of your group and he is wrong all of the time just like when he said a couple years ago that it was gonna
03:59Be the greatest draft class ever because they all contributed in one game and they all stink or aren't even here anymore
04:05But how can you get on your high horse what eight weeks ago nine weeks ago, whatever it is high horse
04:11I would never tank we would never do that. We're not about that easy to say when you're everybody's oh, no
04:16You know, it's easy to say before the season starts
04:18It's a little tougher when you're two and six, by the way, that brings us to today's edition of the sniff test
04:24It's the sniff test with our canned and hard
04:29On
04:30Weei, so Elliot Wolfe made a whole big show out of not wanting to tank
04:35We wouldn't disrespect the game in that way. We'd never do that
04:38How dare you even ask that and now here they are
04:41Trading Josh who Shay who again that was not doing much for this team, and I don't think is anybody that we're gonna dearly miss
04:47But he's one of your best rushers one of your best pass rushers
04:49And I also think he's gonna go to Kansas City and thrive there just probably you know
04:53Like why wouldn't he and it doesn't mean he's good or better. It just means he went to an environment. That was
04:58more
04:59from
05:00Forgiving of his weaknesses or or maximizing of his strengths, right? Okay now
05:04Here's the question that passes the sniff test or doesn't pass the sniff test
05:07Can you trade off pieces would not have it be tanking like is that are those two things?
05:12Interlocked like if you if you start selling off pieces like Carolina selling off pieces. They're tanking
05:18We all know that is there a way the Patriots can do that
05:20They can make trades or get rid of some guys and have it not look like they're taking absolutely if you trade KJ Osborne
05:25You're not tanking agreed. I think you're just trying to get rid of him. It hasn't worked
05:28It's bad, but if you trade if you trade Jones and Bourne and Josh even just Jones about to bond gotcha
05:35Yeah, like I know you're a soft football team that doesn't stop the run
05:39But he is the guy that everybody tells me is the best run stuffer in the middle of it Bill Belichick told me he's one
05:43Of the best defensive tackles in football you told me you liked him enough to resign him in the offseason and give him some more
05:47Guaranteed money after he pouted and said he needed more guaranteed money at his age, and now you're gonna trade him off
05:53That's tanking that's not trying to win
05:55That's not trying to make your team better now the only counter argument on a guy like Godshaw
06:01Which I don't think really exists with the other guys is do you not like that?
06:04He's talking too much
06:05Is he a detriment to the culture because he tells Jones and Keefe that guys are what we playing selfish
06:12I think was the first phrase he used a few weeks ago things of that nature tough sell
06:16But if you really had a good PR group coach Stacy could probably spin it in a certain direction
06:22But are you gonna tell me that there's any world where Jonathan Jones or Kendrick Bourne?
06:26I mean, I guess Kendrick Bourne brought guys need to eat better, but I think he was trying to be a leader
06:30I know he was trying to be productive even if it didn't necessarily play out and then he dropped every single ball that he saw
06:35Correct on Sunday, so I just I don't know how you can trade those guys and think it passes the sniff test
06:42And again, it's only in relation to your own words
06:45I I don't care if the Panthers are selling off. They should they effed up their rebuild
06:50They need to start over you have an opportunity to bring in assets that could help you now
06:56You're not gonna get a ton. They're all low-level assets
06:59You're getting day three picks for all of these guys and they already have a lot of day three pit
07:03They have like four or five seventh round picks already, and I think they have like two sixes
07:06So yeah, they have at the back end. Anyway, they already have a lot of that
07:11I don't know how much more that they need necessarily if you want to try and turn
07:14You know a bunch of them two sixes and a seven or three sevens and a six into a five or something
07:19I don't know. You can try that. You just said a lot of numbers. I know I'm just saying three sevens in a six into
07:23A five. Well, what are you gonna do drag? It makes five seven round draft picks
07:27Like what's the point of that? You know, you already have a team with a bunch of lousy players on it
07:31Yeah, you know Tom Brady was 199th pick in the draft. Sure
07:34he was you can find talent down there not in the seventh row now, well sort of because what he was a
07:39Compensatory pick in the six and not in the say this is we don't need to have this argument
07:44We'll save this argument for next spring we will have it because I have a
07:49Hour in the in the future. Yes. It's a future bitching our topic how those are handled in the NFL
07:54But no, I don't think it passes the sniff test Elliot Wolfe and what bothers me a little bit
07:58Isn't the individual trades or even the idea of individual trades?
08:02Diana, Rossini Mike Giardi, they're all reporting. We are open for business. Yep fire sale
08:08It all must go Sunday Sunday Sunday like
08:12Wait, so are you trying to win football games?
08:14Are you just tearing it down and it feels like a tear down?
08:17It feels like you are tanking and people get all worked up over that word
08:22I know
08:22Late in the Belichick era people got real you'll find it surprising that Mike Lombardi got really defensive when people talk
08:28Yeah, I like Lombardi. Yes, didn't yes
08:30Take kindly to that type of thought would never do that the respect of the game like these guys
08:35Do what's in the best interest of the football team if you think it's in the best interest of the football team Elliot Wolfe?
08:40to have
08:4110 draft picks 11 draft picks 12 draft picks whether you're gonna make them or whether you're gonna package them like you said trade up
08:48If that's what the best interest of the football team is then do it
08:52Just don't tell me you would never do that because it's disrespectful
08:55and then go out there and do it because you know what that sounds a lot like
08:58Sounds a lot like the last 10 months of Patriots football where they say one thing do another then backtrack and tell you why what?
09:04They said wasn't really what they said, but what they did was kind of what they did
09:08Yeah, that kind of annoys me
09:09I know and it's been going on all year and it seems like something that they haven't quite dug their way out of yet it
09:14Keeps happening and this is going to be another example of that when they start trading off their players
09:17Which I still think is definitely gonna happen here in the next couple of days
09:216 1 7 7 7 9 7 93 7 is the phone number Jacoby Brissett with us yesterday?
09:26Talked about his status as the starter says he wasn't sure about that yet that he'll know when we know
09:31I don't think that you're gonna see Drake May this weekend
09:34I think that he's probably out this weekend based on the protocol and how it's gone for other players that have been in it
09:39Usually you don't see him back for a week probably going to be another week of Brissett against another beatable team here in the Tennessee
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