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00:00You know what I'm using six months Wow that makes it sound more dramatic
00:04It's been six months
00:06Since the Super Bowl lick out. Yes six months go
00:11Six months the 49ers knew two days after the Super Bowl
00:17that McCaffrey
00:18Trent Williams and Iuke
00:21Needed to be dealt with
00:23Why?
00:25Do you think?
00:27Six months later the only guy they've taken care of is
00:34McCaffrey
00:36All right, let me throw this one at you
00:38No, because we've got I got some really but I'm throwing it out to our listeners obviously at eight eight eight nine five seven nine
00:43five seven zero
00:46Four one five in the extended mobile text line
00:49Because they know they have to get rid of someone next year
00:54So at this point they're trying to deal with it a year early, I don't buy that
01:02We were under the impression and it won't be the first time I'm wrong
01:07The Debo could have been a possibility after they signed I you can traded Debo this next offseason
01:14I never in a million years thought the disease of me would kick in right now
01:17And you know what I got to be careful here when you say they've taken care of
01:23McCaffrey people are right, but Stani I believe Trent is not a big deal. The more I think about it
01:29They got to be hooking the big fella up with just R&R. We'll take care of you right before the season starts
01:35there's just there's no football expert or
01:39Aficionado they could explain why the Niners would be tricking around with Trent, but I you Stani
01:45I don't think they had him trying to bring the house down. I
01:49Don't think they are fond of life without IU and that's why we're we're dealing with what you call this
01:56Maybe they thought around draft night. They were going to be able to trade IU or Debo Samuel
02:04Because that was out there
02:06That was out there. We all know they were gonna have to deal with this in a year
02:10Maybe they were thinking about dealing with it on draft night
02:13And they didn't think they didn't like any of their deals for either IU at the time or Debo at the time
02:19But they knew they were gonna have trouble with IU can so they said let's get some insurance in here with pierce
02:23All and sure enough now IU has become a problem
02:28Where Trent Williams fits in I don't know that's what I'm that's what I'm wondering right after
02:34He's the guy that opens the holes we had Baldy on with with Joe and Bonte earlier this week
02:39Stani like it's we all know his worth and he's protecting Brock Purdy
02:44So I have to believe maybe the big fella at 36
02:49It's just getting the extended vacation and there's nothing to see here with this money
02:53But when you just I I don't know why some McCaffrey and I get it Stani
02:58It's nothing against McCaffrey why that was so easy, but these two from afar seem difficult
03:04Well I would say maybe and maybe that's one of the reasons McCaffrey has been taken care of but the other two haven't is that
03:12It was probably easier
03:14with McCaffrey right and it probably impacted the salary cat or the salary structure less than those other two guys and
03:23Maybe McCaffrey wasn't asking for what the other two guys are asking for in terms of
03:30You know how close or how far they are from what they really want
03:34Maybe they figured you know what McCaffrey only wants a little bit more
03:36We'll give it to him Trent wants a lot more and Iuke wants a lot more. We'll figure those out
03:40I don't know. That's I'm just I'm asking why six months after the Niners knew all this are we still here and
03:49again the one guy we don't know anything about is Trent Williams and
03:54It's to me with him I get it
03:58I know how important he is but to me
04:00I do think it's interesting if he's so damn important
04:05Well, why why hasn't he been signed? Okay, because question because he doesn't need to come to training camp. All right
04:12All right
04:13so each day that goes on though with Trent Williams, I
04:17wonder more and more about whether the Niners are
04:23Essentially doing the same thing with IU with Williams as IU and that's called hardball. That's what you called it the other day exactly
04:30Let's go to Jack Jackson, San Francisco. What's up, Jack? How you doing, man?
04:36Okay, how you doing?
04:38You know, I think they had the IU feel done and then the the market just blew up for wide receivers
04:45I think they had that thing just about done and
04:49Then I you sort of pulled the deal off the table
04:52And so I think they got sort of wrong-footed on that and on Williams
04:55I guess the issue of Williams is if he wants more for this year
04:59I would definitely pay him more for this year if he wants some sort of a four-year five-year contract at
05:0536 years old that I think becomes an issue
05:08So and what but like you say nobody really has any insight on what's going on with Williams. So that's all speculation
05:15Thanks, Jack. Appreciate the call. I think that's a possibility
05:18I don't think we're ever gonna nail it down
05:19But I do think that's a possibility that the Niners were close with IU and then those other guys got money
05:27But how do you call a resolution it still doesn't
05:31Because nobody if Brandon Iuk is traded Stani
05:33I feel like nobody won and the Niners don't want him to leave he didn't want to leave but if he comes to that I
05:40Guess I'm saying miss me with the market blew up and it stopped on Brandon
05:44The bottom line is the fallout is
05:47Purdy's gonna have one less polished weapon on the outside to work with and was it really worth it?
05:54Well, what if the callers right and they had they thought they had IU clocked up for 25 26 those guys got paid
06:03They said alright, let's get this done and Brandon said no things have changed
06:07What do you mean things have changed?
06:09Well now I want 29 because those other guys got 28 and 29
06:13Yeah, well TJ who's Manzada said Stani
06:16It sounds like 28 would get it done and if they are buddy, but but it's what if he agreed to 26
06:22Three months ago, and he changed his mind. I
06:27Can't say you're wrong right now something had to pop off
06:29I think the other thing here that we're missing is I don't think it's about average salary per year
06:35What guarantee no because if you say because I do think if you say
06:41Why don't they just give him 28 and a half instead of 26 and the guaranteed money? I admit like yeah
06:47All right, that's not a big deal. But if the guaranteed money, you know, I was looking at some of these guarantees that these receivers have gotten
06:53It's at least 30 for most of them sometimes more man
06:57So maybe it's maybe the guarantees 10 and he wants 20. No, then that is a big difference and
07:03And
07:05Well, all I'm all I'm wondering is
07:09If these if Trent Williams is so important
07:13Like what if we find out that?
07:15There isn't nothing to see here with Trent
07:18Well, I would be shut then they're just that they're they're willing to play this out up into the 49ers
07:26Are saying we gotta call his bluff Trent Williams. He's making 22 million
07:31Is he really not gonna show up like isn't that the first thing you got to do if you're the Niners and then if he
07:37Doesn't show up
07:38You start to miss him then go sign him then go give him the race man
07:43With no was not being in pads all offseason
07:47Like the more you just talk about those descriptions of what possibly could happen
07:52I'm like I see the Rams one in the West, you know
07:55I see Seattle like I guess from a football component. None of this is good for the the greater good of the team
08:03Brock Purdy either well
08:06Just to play devil's advocate
08:08You say nothing, you know, none of this is good for the team, but clearly the 49ers think it's good for their long-term
08:17balance sheet their long-term balance, man, I
08:21Don't know I thought I thought Trent Williams had all the leverage in the world and he might again
08:27Yeah, but right now it doesn't look like it or maybe the years it is with a uke
08:33Maybe it's the years. Maybe they only want to give him three. He wants five
08:39They don't want to give him four. He wants five. I don't know
08:42The question I have the Niner fans those why was McCaffrey taken care of and the other two haven't been taken care of
08:50Man Gary's in San Ramon. Hey Gary. How you doing, man?
08:55Not bad. Thank you
08:57Yeah, yeah, I believe McCaffrey
09:01McCaffrey because he is the market if I'm not mistaken. He's the highest-paid running back. Mm-hmm. So
09:07So he is the market
09:08so all they had to do is just do some up a little more and
09:11She has nothing to compare it to because he's the highest running back
09:15compared to the running to the left tackle and yeah, I
09:18You these guys think they're better than a lot of these players
09:22So they don't want they're going to want to make more money. That's just that's just how I see it
09:27So well by that by that thinking Gary shouldn't
09:32Trent Williams be pretty easy to deal with this, you know
09:37He sees the guy in Kevin they get a lot more money to him
09:40But at the same time the foreign I see that he's 36
09:43Yeah, I'm gonna be in two years so I get to still make beer got you but I you but I you
09:50Yeah, you got to pay. I'm not for an hour thing. But I believe you do gotta pay him to keep himself
09:56Good stuff Gary. Yeah, and what's funny about all this Donnie is when you look at it from that vantage point
10:01Okay, Brandon, I you if people want to say or label him unproven
10:05I totally get that but then on the flip side Trent Williams is proven
10:10He's as valuable as worse or any other like that's the part of this is like it doesn't add up
10:16the Trent Williams
10:19Portfolio is a guy at the top of his position study
10:24So what's the hold up there you think the hold up there is that the 49ers
10:34Don't
10:36Want to deal with him right now
10:38I'm trying to be careful because I'm not like I don't know what's going on with Trent Williams
10:42They're hooking the big time up. I think it's
10:45They got that they'll get it done and you just rest chill and we'll be back and we trust you because you know how to
10:52do this
10:53See, that's me. That's too easy
10:56Like that's nothing else makes sense. Unless you're I disagree. They're gonna play hard balls
11:00There's a lot of stuff one of their I believe their second best player
11:04That most important player right now, yeah
11:08I'm just saying I
11:12Think I think the idea I think the idea that
11:16Trent Williams wants more money. They're gonna give him whatever he wants and
11:21They know that he doesn't have to be involved in training camp
11:24And if they sign him a week before they sign him a week before they sign up three days before they sign in three days
11:30before if they sign him and went on
11:33Friday they sign him on Friday. I
11:35Just don't think I
11:37Think if it were that easy
11:39That he'd be in here. Like if they if they had a choice about Trent Williams, they had a choice
11:46They'd want him in camp. Even if he's not practicing. They'd want him here
11:51but they haven't even done the bare minimum of something that's supposed to be a
11:58Formality to get him in here that that I don't know. I'm not saying I got info I don't
12:05Cut that by the way. Yeah, I am just saying I am just saying I
12:12Get he doesn't have to be here
12:15But why wouldn't you want him here if it's gonna be if it's simple get him here and it rest in peace to the great
12:21Bill Walsh Donnie, but you don't have to be him to know the importance of Trent Williams
12:26But when you talk about his position
12:29His weight all that stuff. I totally get a let the big fella just chillax
12:33And when he gets here, he gets here. So I gotta believe and operates Donnie
12:39I'm focused on Iuke like we all are we're all fatigued
12:42I don't want him to leave the Niners, but I can't throw Trent Williams in the furnace with IU because
12:49There's no
12:51Perspective or anybody walking this great earth. They can tell you what the Niners are doing from a football standpoint
12:59They can't see his value. It doesn't make sense
13:03So it's got to be wink-wink
13:05Stony will take care of you show up that Monday before the Monday night game that you know what I mean
13:11There there's no football or sports element or ingredient
13:16That is efficient enough to make us be like the Niners are really thinking they Mike and there's no plan B with Trent
13:24Not on this roster
13:26When you got Super Bowl aspirations to get back
13:30510 Xfinity mobile text line, and I think this is something we've glossed over and
13:35And I heard everybody say oh, they'll just take care of that later
13:40It's not as simple as resting Trent Williams
13:43He's getting fined every time he misses practice and those fines can't be waived
13:50He's also given up 1.1 million dollars because he wasn't in Tennessee. He didn't he wasn't
13:58There for the Tennessee game the contract says for guys like Williams who signed as free agents
14:04three years ago
14:06They can't waive those fines
14:08They they don't they can't not according to the collective bargaining agreement
14:13But I gotta believe it for dangle the numbers when you do come to something to wear. You know we were gonna give you
14:20Fine we'll give you 30 so how's that? Why wouldn't the Niners?
14:24They just do that then like why would the 49ers let Trent Williams?
14:29Accumulate fines that they know they're gonna have to make up for in the back end
14:33I mean
14:37Understand that thought problem that mindset, but I'm in denial to where the Stiney what didn't what else could it be?
14:44What it could be is the 49ers as great as Trent Williams is are saying
14:50Three years ago you signed a contract to be the highest paid lineman in football
14:56You're still the sixth highest paid lineman in football. You're 36 years old
15:01You're scheduled to make 22 million dollars this year. We would like you to come and play on 22 million dollars
15:08That's what I think's going on. I'm not coming in for 22. All right. Well. We want you to
15:14We'll talk to you next week and
15:16Trent hasn't even said a peep as opposed to Brandon now you going on the Martin Luther King tour
15:21Talking I'm not mad at him talking about his first rodeo Trent Williams
15:25He's just quiet as a church mouse, but I do wonder if this is
15:29Bigger than anybody thought Greg in Oakland. Hey Greg. How you doing, man?
15:36I'm doing good. Are you guys doing?
15:40Good I just wanted to bring you know
15:44This is a hard cap game football, and it was going to come we have too many players well-known
15:51Top in their position top 10. That's debatable
15:54We have too many and it's going to come so I guess the question comes
15:59Who was who we rather see walk would it be Trent or would it be someone whose contract here is up next year?
16:06Are you on your final year in two years?
16:09You know we stuck at a hard cap and we have so many talent
16:14Somebody busy has to walk. We can't have all of these players I
16:19Mean I think that's what they're coming up against and I thought we were gonna deal with that or they were gonna deal with that
16:24Next year Stoney. I thought Brandon would get but they need Brandon this year
16:28Well everybody knows the importance sign him to a deal
16:31And then you would have the possibility maybe to to to dangle Debo or whatnot
16:36I mean a lot of us thought that that's which way they were going we never thought IU would come to an impasse to where
16:42He wouldn't get his chips
16:43Maybe we didn't think that way, but there's no way the Niners didn't think that was a possibility and the Ricky Pierce all online one
16:50Here's the other thing just to again I
16:53Get trade Trent Williams, I get it. Oh, he's the greatest of all time. He's just invaluable. I get it. Let me ask you this
17:03Two guys are holding out right now. Let's just say two guys aren't playing one is a 36 year old guy
17:11The other is a player entering his prime. I
17:16Think it's within the realm of possibility that IU is a higher priority than Trent Williams
17:22Because if they come to terms with Brandon IU they've got a great wide receiver in their fold for the next five years
17:30Trent Williams, but he's not even gonna be here in five years. So yeah, I get it. He's important now
17:38But IU is more important to the future of the 49ers the future was your time
17:47And
17:48Study I'll just say this and you know me to hell with the future. It's about this year
17:52It's about next year
17:53And what I do know is Trent Williams could be a big part and they expect him to be a big part of those seasons
17:59So right then and there I'm thinking why is Trent not piggybacking off of McCaffrey? Why is this not that easy?
18:07But the fear if I'm a Niner fan is boy if they're doing what you're alluding to
18:11maybe like a dude you're under contract come get this 22 and
18:15Do you play the Packers and he's Chris Jones last year the Chiefs sitting in the stands
18:21Like I would never in a million years thought that would have been the scenario from the 9 to 5
18:27on the Xfinity mobile text line the holdup is he's under contract and
18:33Shouldn't be demanding more. I don't get why it's okay to sign a contract
18:38Then you then decide you're worth more before the contract is up
18:42Well, welcome to the world of pro sports these green dudes do it all the time well
18:47Some guys do it. Yeah, and some get away with it because they have they're good enough to do it
18:53nine to five treads 36 and
18:56One injury away from being done
18:59Well, he's an all-pro nine to five. He's not worth the extra money
19:04So that's the other not having them
19:07Changes your your your your outlook for this just this season
19:11Maybe it's the fact that Trent Williams hasn't played a full season in seven years
19:17That may make the 49ers hesitant to give him a lot of guaranteed money
19:23Makes sense to me
19:25It that makes sense to me man
19:30so again the question I'm asking is is
19:34You know for six months the Niners knew
19:37this might be a possibility and
19:40They're still here. I
19:42Don't think they're dumb. They may have miscalculated a little but I don't think they're dumb and
19:48so
19:49You tell me why nothing's gotten done with two of the three guys
19:54Danny's in Pittsburgh. What's going on in Pittsburgh Danny?
19:57You want this guy?
19:59I
20:02Okay, so this is the thing right so everybody got to revert back to after the Super Bowl, right?
20:09Yeah, where his wife went on a rant and his brother went on a rant saying oh
20:15Last season in a 49ers. I think the I think the main draw with you guys was that Ricky pierce all
20:23right, because
20:25Are they are they getting rid of Debo was they getting rid of IU I mean
20:30It was just an up-and-down thing. So my
20:34Surveillance for being a Steeler fan. Do we want them? Do we need them? Of course, but also at the same point
20:40We have a dilemma here
20:42Because if you pay
20:44Brandon, I you got his money house George taking the bullfield
20:48Mm-hmm
20:49Because he's but in your case. I
20:53Don't know who you pay Trent Williams or Brandon IU because it's like
20:58Like Brandon and Brandon, of course, I guess don't want to play for you guys
21:03I don't know what it is because if you look on his tick-tock right now, it says PS 1. I don't know what that means
21:14Yeah, no, I if you look at his what's daddy PS 1 his tick-tock yeah, I guess
21:22Yeah. Yeah, I don't think anybody can definitively answer if Brandon Iuke wants to be here or not. I know what he said
21:29But well, I tell you what, he didn't want to leave
21:33If it were going to New England, we'll see about Pittsburgh or Cleveland. See this is this is interesting
21:40the 202
21:44IUK is more of a priority than Williams prove it
21:48You can replace a premium young stud wide receiver
21:53over an aging left tackle
21:55Aging left tackle. That's all pro
21:58That's what people are forgetting. I
22:01mean the Niners have won I
22:04I'm perplexed and
22:06The whole IU thing has me do I'm ready to jump off a bridge because I want the baby here
22:11But when you throw in Trent Williams on top of this and the fact that you started this conversation with goo
22:17They knew back in March. It is rather
22:22Rather confusing or baffling as to what the Niners are gonna do and
22:27What you call this because I know you got to say goo is this par for the course? They knew it
22:32I I just know two big parts of your team are not camp