"How quickly into your first interaction with a girl can you determine how compatible you will be with each other? Is it how she receives you? Like you can make her smile and laugh and she receives you well? She has open body language and wants eye contact? Is it something that’s judged in the first interaction or something that can be felt out over time? Thank you for your time."
"Why ducks? I won't be able to sleep or consider any universal abstractions until I know!
"Here is my theory.
"Premise 1: Stef is bald.
"Premise 2: Ducks lay eggs.
"Premise 3: Bald heads look like eggs. Especially bald caucasian heads which might be spotted in old age.
"Premise 4: Women have a maternal drive to protect and bond with fragile young creatures.
"Conclusion: Stef could have chosen puppies, or kittens as pets for his daughter, but those were lacking philosophically! Why, you ask?
"Stef chose ducks so that his daughter would subconsciously transfer her maternal instincts that she developes for the eggs towards Stef, whose head when freshly shaved is reminiscent of a duck egg.
"While proposing that love is our involuntary response to virtue, Stef's secret mission is for love to be an involuntary response to egg like heads, thereby allowing him to have more persuasive power with female audiences who control sexual access. His daughter is the first test case for this before he scales it to the wider population.
"DEBUNK ME BRO!"
"How do you select employees? I'm interested in how you ensure they are moral to avoid hiring fat people to write recipes for a diet book so to speak. What level of immoral/unethical/unprofessional behaviour would lead to you firing them?"
"Can you give some examples/strategies to contradict people in public to expose their true nature/character?"
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"Why ducks? I won't be able to sleep or consider any universal abstractions until I know!
"Here is my theory.
"Premise 1: Stef is bald.
"Premise 2: Ducks lay eggs.
"Premise 3: Bald heads look like eggs. Especially bald caucasian heads which might be spotted in old age.
"Premise 4: Women have a maternal drive to protect and bond with fragile young creatures.
"Conclusion: Stef could have chosen puppies, or kittens as pets for his daughter, but those were lacking philosophically! Why, you ask?
"Stef chose ducks so that his daughter would subconsciously transfer her maternal instincts that she developes for the eggs towards Stef, whose head when freshly shaved is reminiscent of a duck egg.
"While proposing that love is our involuntary response to virtue, Stef's secret mission is for love to be an involuntary response to egg like heads, thereby allowing him to have more persuasive power with female audiences who control sexual access. His daughter is the first test case for this before he scales it to the wider population.
"DEBUNK ME BRO!"
"How do you select employees? I'm interested in how you ensure they are moral to avoid hiring fat people to write recipes for a diet book so to speak. What level of immoral/unethical/unprofessional behaviour would lead to you firing them?"
"Can you give some examples/strategies to contradict people in public to expose their true nature/character?"
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00:00Hey everybody, Stefan Molyneux. Hope you're doing well. Don't forget to check out
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00:14December of 2024. So
00:17questions
00:18Found a pile of them. Think I haven't done them before. Let's find out shall we
00:23How quickly into your first interaction with a girl can you determine how compatible you will be with each other?
00:29Is it how she receives you like you can make her smile and laugh and she receives you?
00:32Well, she has open body language and wants eye contact
00:35Is it something that's judged in the first interaction or something that can be felt out over time? Thank you for your time. So I
00:42Remember when my wife and I went out for our first time and I didn't ask her out. She didn't ask me out
00:50What happened was we were on a volleyball team and everybody was supposed to celebrate a win
00:54People on the team for a variety of reasons had to back out
00:57so it's just my wife and I and my future wife and I and that conversation was electric like I
01:03You know that little folder the bill comes in. I walked home with that
01:06I didn't even realize till much much later that I'd hung on to that
01:11so it was absolutely electric and
01:15we just you know marriage is a lifelong conversation and
01:19The thing that is most attractive I mean outside of you know
01:24there's some physical stuff that you need but the thing that is most attractive and this is something that as a
01:30Public conversationalist in many ways have really really noticed
01:34There are not a lot of people
01:36who truly truly
01:39listen
01:40Who truly listen?
01:43Absorb
01:45Process and respond with active thinking rather than pre-programmed responses
01:52to receive language to think about language to
01:58Process and respond honestly with your own thoughts without attack. You're not just waiting your turn to talk
02:04You know for most people
02:06conversations are
02:08an opportunity for status display
02:11So they want to one-up they want to show you how cool they are and I did this travel and then I've got this
02:17cool job and I'm a boss babe, or I'm an alpha male like
02:20They're just looking to use language rather than to connect and communicate and share
02:26mind and content
02:29they're using it to
02:31pursue and achieve
02:34status and
02:37It's really really interesting to see so somebody who actually listens to you and
02:44responds to you and
02:46rolls with the conversation in other words, they don't
02:50Take the opportunity to display status by showing offense, right? So you understand that showing offense is
02:59a
03:01high status activity
03:04Because the master
03:06Can be upset with the slave and the slave has to take it
03:11But the slave cannot be upset with the master because the master will punish
03:17so you understand the taking of offense and the inflicting of offense and anger and temper is
03:23a mark of high
03:26status, I mean the real
03:28aristocrats are the
03:30easily offended
03:32If your boss upsets you you kind of have to take it if you
03:37Upset your boss. You can't really say anything, right? So the
03:42Expression of offense and
03:45Anger and disgust and contempt and and so on all of that is
03:50a status
03:52Operation designed to make you feel lesser and the other person feel like more
03:56It's the same thing too with abusive parents and this is probably where it comes from
04:00Of course abusive parents
04:03Can rage at you you can't say anything to abusive parents because they hold the power, right?
04:09so somebody who's willing to listen to you and
04:13Doesn't take the easy route of
04:15Offense or doesn't try to impress you with status, which is another kind of
04:21Aristocratic approach
04:22Someone who just listens to you and speaks to you back and forth like you're both human beings curious about each other
04:28is about the most attractive thing and it's been going on for 22 years and
04:33It it is there
04:35There are some things that get better with age and it makes up for some of the things that don't necessarily get better with age
04:41but
04:43That a conversation between equals in the exploration of
04:48Thoughts mind morals and Maria and reality you can't get better than that. That's as good as it gets. So the compatibility is in the
04:57Curious and listening conversation with each other where you refuse to take offense and you ask people
05:02Oh, why do you think that or what's been your approach to that?
05:05So if you say something that would be considered, I don't know politically incorrect rather than saying well, that's just inappropriate
05:11Which is a status thing. It's an HR aristocratic thing. You just say Oh, what's your approach to that?
05:16Or when did you first think about that just the open?
05:20genuine human
05:22curiosity about the minds thoughts and
05:25Perceptions of another is the most attractive thing in the known universe in my opinion. All right
05:31Let's see here
05:35Why ducks I
05:37Won't be able to sleep or consider any universal abstractions until I know here's my theory premise 1 Steph is bald
05:43Premise 2 ducks lay eggs premise 3 bald heads look like eggs, especially bald Caucasian heads, which might be spotted in old age
05:50Premise 4 women have an internal drive to protect and bond with fragile young creatures conclusion
05:55Steph could have chosen puppies or kittens as pets for his daughter, but those were lacking philosophically
06:02Why you ask it's a fine question. I would say look at me being curious about somebody's
06:07arguments
06:09Steph Steph chose ducks so that his daughter but
06:12Subconsciously transfer her maternal instincts that she develops for the eggs towards Steph whose head when freshly shaved is reminiscent of a duck's egg
06:19While proposing that love is our involuntary response of virtue Steph's secret mission is for love to be an involuntary response to egg-like heads
06:26Thereby allowing him to have more persuasive power with female audiences who control sexual access
06:31His daughter is the first test case for this before he scales into the wider population
06:37Mm-hmm, right. Well, and of course if we talk about using my bald head as an analogy for ducks and love and all of that
06:46we also have to
06:48Recognize that being bald is a massive provocation to communists because
06:53Communists say you can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs and they like to break bald heads and
07:00Certainly, they've been focused on that with me. So
07:02A fine flight of whimsy. How do you select employees?
07:06I'm interested in how you ensure they are moral to avoid hiring fat people to write recipes for a diet book
07:11So to speak what level of immoral unethical unprofessional behavior would lead to you firing them?
07:18I mean obviously morals have a lot to do with
07:22business, but a business has a metric of efficiency that
07:29Is not necessarily the case in Mars. Can we say morals are efficient in life?
07:33I mean in terms of your relationship, they're efficient in terms of your way in the world
07:37They can be massively inefficient as many moralists over the course of human history have found to their
07:44sometimes death sometimes imprisonment sometimes
07:47Banishment or ostracism sometimes deplatforming so it is it is a tough thing. So
07:55In terms of I didn't look for political compatibility. I did look for people who believed in
08:03Ethics and virtue and so I was even back then partial to
08:08Christians because they're going to be moral and honest in general more so than a lot of agnostics or atheists and
08:15I
08:17Looked for efficiency. I you know, anybody who's worked with me will tell you I am the opposite of a micromanager
08:23what I like to do is to facilitate people's productivity and creativity in the framework of whatever business I'm
08:31involved in so if people
08:35You just like I think of an eraser on a desk right I mean you move it
08:38It's hard to move and then when you stop moving it it stops
08:41So I don't like people that you have to puppet master
08:44I just don't like to work with them because I find it kind of depressing
08:48So people who have their own initiative right or wrong and who come up with ideas and so on is is very important to me
08:55People who think of the customer before me is super important to me, right? So a
09:02Boss who wants to be pleased is a narcissist a boss who teams up with you to please customers is a businessman
09:08or a businesswoman, so
09:11I look for people who understood business who understood that the value they had to provide
09:15Was to the customer not to me who understood that although I may sign their paychecks. I don't pay them
09:20They're paid by the customers who knew how to have fun
09:24Who enjoyed and loved the challenge of business solving a problem solving in business, right?
09:30because that's just a lot of fun and particularly in the software realm because you're constantly thrown curveballs by
09:36by salespeople who promised the moon and
09:38And
09:40Yeah, I mean I remember one time there was a software
09:44my software product was sold and
09:46We I had developed a web interface that that was built from a database of how the windows program looked
09:53All of the boxes and forms and labels and drop-downs and it would store in a giant database
09:58Every aspect of the windows program and then it would generate the web interface
10:03Navigation record moving saving the drop-downs
10:07everything that the data validation rules all of that would be
10:10Taken from the windows program put into a giant database and then the web interface would read that database
10:15Sorry, yeah, the web program would read that database and create the interface on the fly
10:19it was really just an amazing piece of tech and I thought of using that as a
10:26product in and of itself over time
10:29But we had a salesperson who promised that this would integrate a Java
10:35that because they had a bunch of Java data rules or data rules written in Java and
10:39so we had to figure out how the web interface would interact with the
10:43Java code and
10:48Comply with or reject
10:50The data that met or broke those rules. So that was just a big problem and an exciting problem
10:56I didn't like the fact that it was promised to the client without and going through me
11:00But nonetheless it was like we whiteboarded we racked our brains and it is a kind of combat, right?
11:08life is a combat against entropy because
11:13You will constantly feel lazy you will constantly want to not exercise you will constantly
11:19Want to shift your work to other people
11:22Because we do have a energy conservation program running in our brains, right?
11:27It's why we have remote controls rather than getting up to change the TV. So life is a constant battle against entropy
11:34and
11:35Recognizing that there's this tension that you wish to decay that you wish to be inert that you wish to conserve energy
11:41That you have to battle against that and to me it's not a big bad battle. It's a it's a fun battle
11:46It's like playing tennis with someone who's really good. It's a it's a fun battle against
11:52laziness lassitude
11:54Shirking responsibility, you know the petty self, right?
11:58when something bad happens our
12:00Instinct is to blame circumstances or other people when people in power do us wrong
12:06Our tendency is to excuse them even as they attack us. And so our tendency is
12:13Manipulation and pettiness and resentment now, that's not all we are and it's not even half of who we are
12:18But it definitely is an undertow in just about everyone
12:21I mean when people are raised peacefully, we'll find out how much of human nature that is but to to blame others to
12:28Decay to be lazy to shift responsibility to make excuses based on circumstances to
12:37To gossip to be pet like all of that's just decay. That's just decay
12:43And
12:45To battle against that decay
12:48with your will and your strength and the power of your mind and concentration and muscles and body is
12:54To me one of the great essences of life
12:59Everything's gonna drag you down. There's an undertow that draws you towards a kind of walking death
13:07Right half in love with easeful death living lives of quiet desperation
13:12When confronted the urge is to lie
13:15when attacked the urge is either to counter-attack or
13:22Shut down not listen and respond actively
13:26So the NPC urge is very strong in people
13:31To conform and call it good to repeat propaganda and call it thought to attack people and call yourself
13:38Virtuous all of that is the NPC programming because that's how a lot of human beings survive. So
13:44You had to just repeat the propaganda and obey the masters because most people throughout human history were not Genghis Khan
13:50But foot soldiers who would get murdered for not complying
13:54Most people were slaves most people were serfs most people were owned and controlled and
14:00To think for yourself and to oppose the general prejudices of the propaganda of the tribe was a suicide
14:07So we have the go-along leaf on a stream
14:11Entropy decay
14:13Shut down your higher brain shut down your thinking shut down your questioning because it's too painful when you can't act on any of your
14:20Thoughts it's very painful to have them
14:23It's like a man in prison dreaming of his perfect lover. It just hurts even more
14:29So I like people who?
14:31Rage against the dying of the lights an old poem right rage rage against the dying of the light the light goes out
14:37Every day in us right the light is is guttered and blown and and right the urge to dissociate to decay
14:44to shut down with video games with movies with television with social media with distractions with
14:51dating sometimes in someone the urge to
14:54decay
14:56the undertow of decay lassitude inertia
15:00That is very strong and I like the people who fight that and
15:06Accept it as a natural part of human nature and as a challenge to be overcome that gives you energy, right?
15:14Alright, so now why would I fire people I fire people?
15:20When I don't enjoy working with them, or they've done something very inappropriate
15:25right, so I
15:27Give people the room to create their own thoughts and ideas and give them coaching on how to best serve
15:33The customers if they Jen just they just don't understand how best to serve the customers
15:38Then like if they're off doing their own projects was Elon Musk said the worst engineering is optimizing something that shouldn't exist in the first place
15:45So if people work on stuff that doesn't benefit the customers just because then it's selfish, right?
15:51Then they're taking money from the customers without serving the customers, which is a form of subtle theft
15:56Right. It's a form of subtle theft. It would be like if I just did anything everything that I wanted to do
16:02Regardless of what was beneficial and most important to you the listeners
16:06Then that would be a form of theft, right?
16:09I'd be taking donations just to serve my own interests and the donations are every reminder
16:13Which is a very good reminder to help serve you. So if people do inappropriate stuff, of course, that's that's no good
16:19The workplace is a place for efficiency not
16:22Inappropriate stuff and I think we all know what that means
16:24But in general if they just focus on what they want to do
16:29Rather than what's best for the business and the customer
16:33Then I don't enjoy working with them because it's just constantly. Hey, there's customers out there
16:37Hey, you've got to provide value because then I'm paying them from the customers so that they don't serve the customers
16:43Again, that's just a kind of theft that is like saying. Hey, man, send me the 500 bucks
16:49I'll send you the iPad and then you keep the 500 bucks and you don't send the iPad
16:53that would be a form of theft and fraud and
16:55If you say to the customers pay me and I'll serve you pay me and the customers pay you so you'll serve their needs and
17:01If you don't serve their needs, you've just kind of half stolen the money from the customers. So that's a kind of narcissism
17:07I can't abide. All right. So let's see then the person should be an entrepreneur, right?
17:11Can you give some examples or strategies to contradict people in public to expose their true nature and
17:17character
17:18Well, you reason with people and you watch them explode, right? You reason with people
17:22I mean, you can just go to my Twitter feed which is still active or has been restored
17:26You can go to my Twitter feed for all of that. Just tell the truth
17:30Just tell the truth. All right
17:36Moral frameworks are intrinsically social because they rely on social acceptance and enforcement
17:43When a new moral framework is conceived it has to overthrow an existing moral framework
17:47And if the adherence of the old framework aren't happy to be labeled as evil or lacking morally
17:50They will fight the new framework tooth and nail. Does this mean that introducing a new moral framework requires a compromise on some issues in
17:56order for it to
17:58Even have the chance of being widely adopted
18:00This is like a presidential candidate compromising on some of his stances on particular issues in order to be more acceptable to the public or
18:07As you've once said are there any public philosophers who aren't fighting one evil while appeasing another one, right?
18:13Even with the abolition of slavery the racial discrimination discrimination continued through state power. I
18:18Understand that philosophy is more for the future than the present
18:22I'm just curious how a philosophical movement survives the test of time and it relies on people in order for it to get to the
18:26Future we only see the successful religions. For example, we don't see all the religions that fail to gain traction as part of me
18:33Wonders if there is more to morality than providing a rational proof, especially since the means of transmission is social
18:38I understand you haven't stopped that rational proof either and have applied it to many facets such as parenting relationship psychology in history
18:45I also struggle to consider what could be compromised on here without losing something essential about NAP and the UPB which is the universality
18:52But at the same time I have doubts about the future success of these ideas
18:58Right
19:00I completely understand where you're coming from. That is not my business. I
19:05Totally understand where you're coming from. That is not my business
19:10You're you're right, of course a moral philosophy
19:13Which is not accepted by the general population does not get manifested in general society for sure
19:19But it does get manifested in the home
19:22So the purpose of UPB just so you know the general strategy and you understand what I'm doing here
19:26So the purpose of UPB look at that the light it shines in my face
19:31The purpose of UPB is to convince parents to stop abusing their children
19:36So that their children can grow up to accept UPB as a framework
19:41All right
19:44So the people who can accept UPB are yet to come and in a whole in in general
19:49So the purpose of UPB is to teach parents
19:54to
19:55reason with their children
19:57According to universal morals so that the children grow up accepting universal morals, right? If you come up with a new language
20:06Esperanto failed to take root. Of course. It was a sort of socialist kind of language
20:10So if you invent a new language
20:13Who do you need to teach it to? Well, the average person isn't going to learn a new language
20:17But if you can teach the parents to teach their children that new language
20:20That's the best chance you have for the new language taking root, right? So if UPB
20:26saves the childhoods of children
20:29they will grow up with an appreciation of and an understanding of a respect for and a love of UPB and
20:37And since it benefited them and
20:39Made their childhoods great
20:41They can't say there's something fundamentally wrong with it without saying there's something fundamentally wrong with being reasoned as a child rather than hit
20:48yell, they're screamed insulted or
20:50Neglected right? So you train parents
20:54in order to enact UPB in their households with their children and
20:59Then those children grow up to accept UPB. So that's my business of getting people
21:06To accept UPB as adults. That's not my business and certainly it was my business
21:10I'm not saying this is not a sort of hard-won bit of wisdom
21:13Because I initially thought that since everybody says we want ethics
21:18We love ethics and since the atheist says we want ethics. We love ethics, but we just can't get them from God and then I gave them
21:25Philosophical ethics that could not be disproven and they ignored or ran away from it
21:29It was like okay so that reasoning with people even when they claim they want something
21:34We want a rational proof of secular ethics. Okay. Here's your rational proof of secular ethics completely ignore it or you're a bad guy
21:43So then you have to switch tack right you have to switch tack and say
21:48Here's how to apply UPB in your personal lives
21:51right, if you can't get a fat population as a whole to accept a diet then you can't get individuals to accept a diet and
21:58Those individuals will become slender and healthy and then other people will say gee you seem to be slender and healthy
22:04What's your secret? Right? And of course you raise kids that way. It's a different matter. So, all right a
22:09Woman says am I a bad person if I have lost interest in maintaining a relationship with my best friend after she told me she has
22:15Feelings for me. I mean the sexual feelings, of course, it always means sexual feelings. Oh, no, not at all. Not at all
22:22Not at all
22:24See friendship is how you meet
22:27your spouse
22:28That's what friendship is for
22:30Friendship is for how you meet your spouse
22:34So in this case your husband, right? Friendship is how you meet your husband you have friends
22:39So that you can be in a social circle so that you can meet your husband after you meet your husband. I
22:45Mean, I'll tell you this and I'm sorry to be so blunt. I have a great affection for my friends
22:50But compared to my time with my wife their part of my life is fairly negligible, right?
22:58So, of course I spend
23:00Every day with my wife all day with my wife and
23:04so that is
23:07You know 24 hours, right? I mean minus eight hours for sleeping. So I spend 16 hours a day with my wife
23:12Right minus the time I work and all of that, but I spend
23:16Let's just say I don't know whatever it is, right? I spent eight hours a day with my wife
23:22Now I see my friends
23:24Much less than that and it's because they have families and they're spending time with their wife and children
23:29So your spouse is
23:32your social life the friends are
23:35Like a dessert, right?
23:37you can't live on dessert and dessert is nice to have but only once in a while and
23:41So on right and I'm sorry and I say this if you're a friend of mine and you're listening. I love you to death
23:46I think it's great
23:47But we just have to be honest about how much time do we spend on the phone?
23:50How much time do we spend going out just us? It's rare
23:55It's rare and there's nothing wrong with that and that when we do get together
23:58It tends to be family gatherings where the kids are together and all of that's wonderful and I treasure my friendships
24:03But friends are the bus you take to get to the altar
24:07That's it. And afterwards you have friendships and they're fine and they're great, but they're not particularly important or
24:15foundational to your life relative to your relationship with your immediate family, which is
24:2024-7, right?
24:2224-7
24:25So if a friend is showing romantic interest in you, let's just say in this case
24:34It's a woman right so if you're a woman and you're straight and
24:40Your female friend shows sexual interest in you then it can't be a friendship anymore and
24:47it's going to be a mess and
24:50Anything that gets in the way of you getting a great husband is utterly expendable because that's the purpose of it, right?
24:57right, as I said the purpose of the worker is to please the customer to generate revenue from the customer and the purpose of friendship is
25:04to
25:05Get you in a circle where you can meet your husband your future husband to have your future husband
25:10Know you have social skills can maintain relationships. They're dry runs. They're rehearsals, right?
25:15So if you
25:16You meet a guy
25:18Let's say this friend was not gay or didn't express sexual interest in you you meet a guy and he's gonna say oh, yeah
25:24Let's spend time with your friends
25:25And if your friends are great and you've had those relationships for a long time
25:27It shows you can maintain relationships that you provide value and it's a good thing
25:31So you're showing off your skills in relationships to your future husband, which makes him more comfortable that you
25:38Know how to maintain relationships, you know how to navigate and negotiate you have quality people in your life
25:42so all of that is just
25:45it's a
25:46social proof of
25:48relationship competence, which is attractive to your husband and
25:52Then you get your husband and your friendships fall away. Like come on. I mean, let's let's let's be honest, right?
25:58Your friendships largely fall away when you get married and in particular when you have children
26:03Especially if your friends don't have children your friends have children you're sharing that journey
26:06But if your friends don't have children, I mean, I'll just tell you my experience, right?
26:10I mean doesn't mean it's true, but I can certainly have thought about it a lot and I can understand the reasons why
26:14when I got married my
26:17Friendships declined and when I got when I became a father those friendships ended now
26:23I got new friendships and the great friendships and I love my friends and I'm not trying to say anything negative about friendship as a
26:27Whole I'm just looking at I'm an empiricist, right?
26:30so I look at the factual proportion of the time I spend with my family and the time I spend with my friends and
26:36It is not even close. It's not even close
26:39So that's just a reality your friends are there to help you meet your spouse and
26:45your friends are there as a complement to your marriage, but
26:50Your friends are busy with their wives and children and husbands and children and you're busy with your wife or husband and children and so
26:57if a
26:59Friend of yours. I said this female friend. She expresses sexual interest in you
27:04Well, that's a mess right because you're not gay, right?
27:07So you want a husband now if you have a friend who is romantically interested in you
27:13Can that friend be objective about a new guy?
27:15So let's say you keep this friendship
27:17But this woman who's sexually interested in you and then you meet a great guy and you talk to her about you've met this great
27:23Guy and he could be the one but this woman wants to sleep with you. So what's she gonna do?
27:27She's gonna sabotage it almost certainly
27:29This is why you can't have friends around to express sexual interest in you because they can't be objective about the central purpose of your
27:35Life which is to find a partner and a mate. So she's gonna sabotage. She's gonna undermine. She's gonna withdraw. She's gonna punish you
27:41She's gonna be hurt and she's going to spoil your initial attraction to the guy who could be the love of your life
27:47So nope, I completely understand that
27:50What's the superior peanut butter UPB universal peanut butter?
27:54Crunchy or smooth. What's your favorite cereal in which you hate the most? I tried mini-wheat yesterday for the first time
27:59It tasted like hay and it was the frosted one too gonna try the Wednesday afternoon cereal tonight
28:04Well, I don't eat peanut butter because apparently it's bad for men's innards I do almond butter which is fine a favorite cereal
28:11I rarely eat cereal. I
28:13Don't mind a little bit of I don't know. What do we keep around for Izzy when she was a little special K
28:19Corn flakes is okay with some raisins and a little granola, but I don't eat cereal that much
28:25What are your thoughts on the biblical story of Job many atheists see as God being a jerk
28:30Well, so the story of Job is really the story of marriage
28:36Right, so the story of Job very briefly is Job loves and worships God and Job is very wealthy
28:42He's got a great family lots of kids and a big bunch of sheep and land and all of that and the devil goes to
28:47God and says oh, yeah, but job only loves you because
28:50he's wealthy and then God takes away his money and job only loves you because he's got all this land and these these crops and this
28:57Sheep and then diseases go and destroy all of that and then to say well a guy a job only loves you because
29:04he
29:05He's got such a great a great wife and then his wife gets sick or dies or something at the same thing with his kids
29:10And then Oh job only loves you because he's got health and then God strikes him down with with sickness and so on and it's like
29:16Yeah
29:17So I made this a story of marriage though, right?
29:19I mean we understand that this is a neurotic controlling abusive guy, right?
29:24If this was a human story, this would be a neurotic controlling abusive guy
29:29Who would put his partner through endless love tests right which would make her that partner not love her right, right so
29:37So, oh you only love me because of my money and then he withholds his money and oh
29:40You only love me because I'm good-looking and then he stops taking care of himself
29:44Oh, you only love me because blah blah blah
29:46I'm nice to you and then he stops being nice to her and so you're stripping away all the virtues that would make someone love
29:51You and then claiming to be a victim when they stop loving you
29:53So I get that that would be a jerky thing to do
29:55But why is the story so popular for stories are popular because they usually contain some elemental truth about life as a whole, right?
30:02so
30:04The woman right you you have to love virtue though virtue makes you suffer, right? That's that's the story, right?
30:10I mean you have to love virtue. I think I mean I love virtue even though virtue makes me suffer, right?
30:16So look at the story of Job look at all the things that I've lost over my pursuit of virtue
30:20I've gained and lost right? So I'm not playing a victim here. But you know, my life's work was erased
30:25I lost 95% of my audience income went down massively
30:29You you suffer, right?
30:31Threats and and all of that, right? So so virtue makes you suffer
30:36so if suffering has you stop loving virtue then
30:41you're not particularly virtuous in other words if you love virtue because virtue gets you a lot of money and fame and and
30:47Whatever then do you love the money and the fame or do you love the virtue?
30:50Are you willing to sacrifice the money in the fame in order to have the virtue and so there's that story about virtue?
30:56But then there's this life
30:57You know, I mean, I think I think my wife and I look great for our age
31:01But we don't look as great as when we met. I mean, it's been 22 years. Of course we don't right?
31:06so
31:07You do you love a woman for her looks? Well, her looks are gonna fade, right? Do you love a woman for her figure?
31:12Well, her figure is going to get harmed by childbirth and then she's just gonna age and there's stuff you can do
31:18But only so much and eventually time wins, right?
31:21So do you do you love your woman for her lustrous hair? Well, it's gonna turn gray. Do you love your woman for her?
31:28Beautiful teeth. Well, you know teeth age and and so on and again this stuff you can do but time wins eventually, right?
31:33So this entropy and this decay happens. So what do you love about?
31:37About
31:39Your partner what you love about your wife and your husband
31:43And eventually one of you is gonna die before the other
31:46Most likely it's going to be the male statistically and the woman is gonna have years without the love of her life
31:52You got a love anyway, right?
31:54You got a love anyway
31:56It's just a rational calculation. I hate to say it, right? So my wife and I we live into our 80s
32:01We'll have a half century of wonderful love and most likely she's gonna have to live some years without me
32:07So you get a half century of love and a couple of years of pain that's better than a half century of no love
32:14right
32:15so
32:17Your partner is gonna age your partner's gonna get withered
32:20Right. The gums are gonna recede the hair is gonna turn gray
32:23You're gonna get wrinkles and you're gonna sag all over the place, right?
32:28And that's just life so do you love your partner
32:32after
32:33They're no longer young. They're no longer fertile. They're no longer beautiful in that physical way. Do you love the spirit?
32:40do you love the thing itself or the positive effects it has on your life and
32:44While it's a bit of a lunatic story with regards to a person
32:48We can understand that you do have to love something for the thing itself
32:52Regardless of its effects on you and that's just deferral of gratification
32:56I exercise when I don't want to because it has positive effects on me. You know, I I
33:00Use moisturizer twice a day I use, you know, I I
33:05I'm I moisturize my body because I have kind of dry skin and I obviously want to stay attractive as I can
33:12So, I mean you just do things that don't feel like doing
33:15because you have to love the thing itself, right and
33:19Loving the thing itself even when it has negative effects on you is a test of integrity, right? It's easy
33:25To love the thing it's easy to leverage you when you're flying high and everything's going well
33:30And you're getting lots of positive attention and everyone's saluting you in respect
33:33It's easy to leverage you then do you leverage you when you're cast out despised rejected and humiliated and attacked and deplatfored you leverage still then
33:41so
33:42There is an essential truth in the story of job. All right
33:46Stephen one podcast you said that entrepreneurship is a young person's game
33:50What would a life look like for a male entrepreneur life path look like?
33:53Well, I mean if you're young and ambitious you should do it before you have kids
33:57And you should build your business to the point where you can spend time with your children
34:01And so you pour yourself into it when you're young and you can stay up all night and you can travel without consequences
34:07You can change time zones. You can you don't have other requirements in your life. So all of that some
34:13Let's say you invest your time and resources heavily into building a business until you're 35
34:17Then you want to build a family but choose a wife who's 10 years younger in the peak of fertility. Sure. Absolutely
34:24You
34:26Twitter is ablaze because people are getting people fired who are proving for and calling for the murder of Trump
34:31Yes. Yes it is. I
34:34mean if you say well
34:36You should support free speech because otherwise the blowback could happen to you and then you never apply the blowback
34:40It's an empty threat bad parenting
34:42If your toddler can flip from client to happy on a dime
34:44Does that mean it was necessarily manipulation or could that perhaps be voicing legitimate concerns and genuine emotion?
34:49No, genuine emotion doesn't turn on the dime. That's manipulation now
34:52I mean, you don't want to blame a toddler for being manipulative, right? They're just using
34:57Natural strategies instinctive strategies to get what they want, but you wouldn't want to support that
35:03What role does a stern voice play in parenting? When does it cross the line to intimidation?
35:07Well, we can be stern with people we love. I mean, I have a great affection for myself and sometimes I'm I'm stern with myself
35:15so
35:18Sometimes you just you know
35:19Even when life is that it's darkest and and and blackest you sometimes you just have to say get out of bed and start working
35:24get out of bed and start working I
35:28Mean I remember in my marriage we suffered a terrible loss back in the day and and
35:33We just okay. Let's just we wanted to paint the house. Let's get up. Let's go to the hardware store
35:37Let's pick the paint and let's start paint
35:38You've just got to be stern with yourself based on affection and based on happiness, right?
35:42Because that entropy can happen it the entropy I talked about earlier exacerbates with tragedy
35:48So a stern voice you just want to be honest, I mean you can be stern with people you absolutely love
35:53So just be honest. You don't have a stern voice to get what you want. That's being disingenuous
35:58That's being manipulative. You're just honest if you feel stern be honest about it
36:03So just honest expression is the key you've helped me understand so many giant topics of importance economics morality history logic and so on
36:09It's been absolutely transformational for me as a seeing embracing reality is paramount
36:13But it's almost as if you figured it all out
36:15What are some other yet unknown areas of importance you are researching at the moment?
36:19If any do you ever feel like you've already come to the truth about everything?
36:22no, I love doing these new shows because I get great new things you guys stimulate great thought in my mind and
36:28You know like like this morning the whole bit about entropy. I was kind of realizing that is the sort of core principle
36:33I've lived with though not articulated. So I learned about myself. I learned about the truth. I learn important things
36:38I'm obviously very good at communicating those to others. So no, you can't come to the truth about
36:43Everything and I hope to keep doing this for another
36:4640 years
36:48What type of shows do you enjoy creating the most? Hmm?
36:51Well, I don't particularly enjoy being in the studio that much anymore
36:55I don't enjoy doing the PowerPoints as you can see, of course, I haven't done the truth about PowerPoints
37:00I don't particularly enjoy doing that stuff. I enjoy it when trolls come on and we get to debate. I enjoy that live wire stuff of
37:09solving conflicts and problems in real time I
37:12Enjoy
37:13Their call-in shows when people go real deep and we get those great insights and there's great progress
37:17I'm really enjoying the private call-in shows, which you can request of course said free domain.com slash call
37:24I'm really enjoying the private call-in shows because I can certainly be a little bit more frank and direct than I would be in general
37:30Generally consumable conversation because it's just so one-on-one or one-on-two
37:34So I enjoy
37:37Extemporaneous stuff the live streams can be a lot of fun
37:39They do get tiring after about two hours
37:42I can feel my juice is done because they do pour a lot of energy into all of those
37:46So I just certainly enjoyed writing the novels though. I remain perpetually occasionally
37:52disappointed at the lack of feedback on the novels, but I just have to take it for what it is and
37:57What else I did not particularly enjoy writing the peaceful parenting book I enjoyed some of it
38:04but
38:05It was brutal
38:06Emotionally, so
38:08I'm glad that's done. Let's put it that way and
38:11Maybe talking about writing a new novel because I really enjoy that creative aspect of things
38:16I I like I like the role plays in the call-in shows because there's a great challenge
38:21Both for my listener and for myself and it's amazing to me
38:24It's still amazing to me many years later many years on how fluid people are with all that stuff
38:28So those are the shows but basically the shows I enjoy
38:31Doing the most of the ones that you guys like the most tend to be the call-in shows and
38:35So I enjoy those because you enjoy them and I'm here to serve
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