Goodman: Jayson Tatum Should START for Team USA | Bob Ryan & Jeff Goodman Podcast
On this episode of the Bob Ryan & Jeff Goodman podcast, Bob, Jeff, and Gary Tanguay discuss the US Olympic team, who will be the starting 5, why Bob Ryan is rotting for Canada to get silver, Cooper Flagg's performance against the Olympic team in Vegas, Bronny James being in a no-win situation, if Zach Edey will be a good pro, and much more!
0:00 - Jayson Tatum's Olympic participation
2:10 - Canada's basketball potential
5:30 - Cooper Flagg's standout performance
7:24 - Select team beats Olympic team
9:19 - Comparing young talents
13:28 - Medal round anticipation
17:12 - Non-traditional point guard strategy
19:56 - Big man's League shift
24:43 - The Bronny experience
26:21 - Parenting challenges
29:18 - NBA team updates
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0:00 - Jayson Tatum's Olympic participation
2:10 - Canada's basketball potential
5:30 - Cooper Flagg's standout performance
7:24 - Select team beats Olympic team
9:19 - Comparing young talents
13:28 - Medal round anticipation
17:12 - Non-traditional point guard strategy
19:56 - Big man's League shift
24:43 - The Bronny experience
26:21 - Parenting challenges
29:18 - NBA team updates
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00:35Okay, guys, summertime, Jason Tatum showing up playing for the Olympic team.
00:40I think it's awesome that he's doing this.
00:43Drew Holiday as well.
00:44They're playing in Vegas.
00:45I'll start with you, Bob.
00:46I know you love this sort of international thing.
00:50How do you feel heading into Paris?
00:51Oh, I mean, we're prohibited favorite.
00:53I can't see a country that's got enough firepower to anywhere near as good as Spain was in 08
00:59or 12.
01:00And they gave us two very tough championship games, France as well, although France is
01:04always a sleeping giant.
01:05They never seem to maximize their potential.
01:07I don't know if this will be a difference now at all with Rambayana.
01:11I assume he's on that team.
01:12I haven't heard that he wasn't.
01:13But you know, but we're still properly loaded and well, and I'm sure well coached and I'm
01:20not worried.
01:21You know, I think we're going to win.
01:24The question for me is who gets the other medals and the team that I'm most concerned
01:27about because I root for them is Canada.
01:29I go back to when I 92 when I first got involved in an international sport at all at the dream
01:36team situation.
01:37And I'm befriended the PR director from Canada during the tournament Americas.
01:43And the coach was Jay Triano, who people might know in America.
01:48And and you know, and look, I just like them to be to be successful.
01:53They've got arguably the best backcourt in the tournament, you know, that you can argue
01:56that shaked goods, Alexander and Jamal Murray are equal or superior.
02:00Any backcourt in the world, including ours.
02:03But they they don't have a quality big.
02:07And this is where our friend and colleague, Mr. Goodman, comes in speaking of quality
02:12bigs born in Toronto, a Jeff.
02:15Yeah, Zach Eaddy, Zach Eaddy, you know, he's he's the one that you could see is is the
02:21future and just had a double double last night in the summer league for Memphis.
02:27The number nine pick who a lot of people, myself included, were like a number nine.
02:33I don't know about this with the way the game has changed or changing.
02:38And listen, he's a hell of a player.
02:41We've talked about him, you know, quite a bit over the last couple of years.
02:45He's a hell of a player.
02:47It's just going to take the coach buying in to using him.
02:53And you know, again, the great thing is with John Moran, listen, there's few guys that
02:59were better screeners in the last 10 years in college basketball than Zach Eaddy.
03:04So at worst case scenario, if you're using him as a guy who, again, can free up John
03:10Moran.
03:11Now, the question is, can Zach Eaddy make enough shots from the perimeter to be a threat
03:17in that ball screen offense?
03:19I don't know yet.
03:20I think he can get better because he's only played seven years of organized basketball,
03:26grew up as a baseball and hockey player.
03:31But yeah, I mean, you look at Canada getting back to what you were talking about with the
03:34Olympic team, not to get off track too much in Zach Eaddy, you know, Dylan Brooks, Jamal
03:41Murray, Shea Gilgis-Alexander, R.J. Barrett, Solid, Lou Dort, you know, they got a lot.
03:49Andrew Nembhard, they got a lot of good perimeter guys.
03:53They're missing that one guy.
03:55I mean, your boy, Kelly Olenek, might be starting at the five for him.
03:59Who knows?
04:00He's all they got.
04:01And I can see that they got a guy who I never knew existed, who was a Nigerian born playing
04:07in EJM.
04:08EJM, I didn't have to pronounce his name, but I didn't know anything about him.
04:12He's a big guy, but I have no idea if he's a big guy.
04:15Melvin Egyem.
04:16Yeah, I don't know him.
04:17He's not a real big, big.
04:19He's more of like an undersized four.
04:22OK, fine.
04:23So I, but I still think they got enough firepower.
04:27They ought to medal.
04:28They've never medaled.
04:29They've never gotten so much as a bronze.
04:31And I think that the time has come.
04:33OK, now that when we weren't paying attention, there was an interesting game the other day
04:38in which Giannis took out Luka, i.e. Greece KO'd Slovenia and, oh no, they beat Croatia.
04:50Right.
04:51I'm sorry.
04:52But anyway, they're both, Giannis lives, Luka doesn't.
04:56And a joke.
04:57That's it.
04:58Yeah.
04:59So, but Giannis and Greece, they're surprise entry and the people weren't really counting
05:02on it.
05:03Even with him, they weren't counting on this.
05:04Anyway, I look forward to that competition and and and I love the whole thing.
05:09But but now we got to get to the story that we that came out of last night that you're
05:13all over.
05:14The young man from Newport, Maine.
05:17It's on everybody's lips and baby.
05:21I was I was texting with Tatum afterwards, just so people know Cooper Flagg had an outstanding
05:26day against the Olympians, 17 year old, 17 years old, 17 years old.
05:33And he was part of the select team, the only college player, and he's not even in college
05:40yet.
05:41I mean, that's the crazy part.
05:42I'm a college player.
05:43He has not played a college game.
05:45He'll be a one and done at Duke this year, six, nine, super versatile.
05:49I've seen him play probably, I don't know, 20 times, 25 times in person.
05:53And he is fun to watch because he does everything well.
05:58Like he is not just the guy that we're relying on.
06:01Like if he doesn't get his his points, that's not his game.
06:05His game is everything.
06:07He makes people better.
06:08He could score.
06:09The one weakness of his game, guys, was perimeter, his perimeter shot.
06:13And yesterday, like he was tearing up.
06:17I mean, he was playing on the select team, which has like Jalen Duren and Brandon Miller
06:22and Jaime Jaquez and guys like that.
06:26Peyton Pritchard.
06:27And he was clearly, when I talked to several people that were there, Matt Painter is a
06:34coach for that select team, clearly the best player for the select team yesterday.
06:39And they almost beat the Olympic team.
06:41I think it was 74-73 was the final.
06:44Well, you talk about history repeating itself, OK?
06:48In 1992, the talk of the buzz in La Jolla when we opened up was the select team, which
06:53was then eight collegians of note and a core eight, one of whom was Bobby Hurley.
07:00And Bobby Hurley put on a show and they beat the Olympic team and and to the point where
07:08supposedly the Olympic team is going, you got him.
07:12Now, I don't want to guard him.
07:13You got him.
07:14I swear to God about Bobby Hurley.
07:16And and then of course, that that was like Chuck Daly's dream scenario because he got
07:22their attention and they kicked their ass.
07:25I think the score was 30 to two to start the next scrimmage.
07:28Really?
07:29Seriously.
07:30Right.
07:31Oh, yeah.
07:32And but anyway, Bobby Hurley.
07:33And so 32 years later, you know, we have Cooper Flagg playing a role of Bobby Hurley, except
07:38a bit a foot taller.
07:40So after a year at Duke, he's the number one pick, right, Jeff?
07:43Yeah, most likely.
07:44I mean, it would take something crazy, somebody, you know, again, his numbers might not be
07:49eye popping at Duke, guys.
07:51It's not like you're going to see Cooper Flagg average like Zion did.
07:54He's not averaging 22 and 12 or something crazy.
07:59He's probably going to average 15, 16 points a game, eight rebounds a game, four assists
08:05a game, two blocks a game.
08:07Guys, don't be surprised.
08:09This dude is an incredible shot clocker, both in the post and closing out on the perimeter.
08:17Like he's ridiculous.
08:20So, yeah, I mean, it was it was kind of cool to see the buzz yesterday after this performance.
08:27And that's when I texted Tatum.
08:28I'm like, was he really as good as what?
08:31Because you never know.
08:32Right.
08:33You never know.
08:34And he's like, yeah, he was.
08:35And then I hit Matt Painter.
08:37And then I hit John Shire, who was there watching Shire will coach him next year at Duke.
08:42And they all were like, no, no.
08:44And Painter said, and this doesn't surprise me, guys.
08:48But like his mentality, he doesn't get too high or too low.
08:52You can tell he's got shit to him.
08:55And Painter said like he was fearless out there against LeBron, against Tatum, against
09:01all these dudes.
09:02I mean, again, he's 17 and a half years old.
09:06Like that's the insane part.
09:08He reclassified up.
09:10Usually when you do that, you're going to struggle in college.
09:14Never mind against the best in the world.
09:17Like insane.
09:18Insane.
09:19No, I encountered one 17 year old in international competition that that people were dazzled
09:26by at the time, myself included.
09:29And he turned out to be an OK pro with a career.
09:32But he didn't turn out to be a superstar and never made an all star team.
09:36Ricky Rubio.
09:38I saw him in Spain at 17.
09:40He was precocious.
09:41Right.
09:42Yeah.
09:43But that's the that's the closest.
09:44So, you know, I'm just going I got to ask you one more question.
09:47Back to Canada for a minute.
09:49As far as you know, Jeff, how much pressure, if any, did they care was exerted on on Edie
09:55to play rather than to do what he's doing, which he said, which is to prepare himself
09:59better for, you know, by by going to Memphis to play with Memphis this summer.
10:03Was there any pressure on him or did they just take the attitude?
10:06Well, the game's changed.
10:07We don't need him.
10:08I don't know what.
10:09I mean, I guess last year he played in the overseas competition last year and he didn't
10:14really play.
10:15He didn't really play.
10:16So I wonder if that kind of got him also thinking, well, I'm going to go there to sit in the
10:21bench.
10:22Right.
10:23Yeah.
10:24I could be getting better and playing.
10:25And so I'm wondering because, you know, did they share the same, you know, this the attitude
10:29that the American hierarchy shows about the the opposition and, you know, it's it's irrelevant.
10:36He's gotten better, though, even from a year ago.
10:39He moves better.
10:40He's a little more confident in his ability to step out and shoot the ball.
10:44But yeah, like, does he fit with the way Canada wants to play?
10:48Probably not.
10:49Probably not right now.
10:50Well, anyway.
10:51So anyway, that's I'll keep my eye on them because they ought to be good.
10:56They have enough peripheral stuff that they ought to be pretty, pretty good.
10:59I can't I mean, I don't really be surprised if they don't medal.
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12:15Bob, do you feel now with the Olympics, obviously you're a sports fan, you watch tiddlywinks,
12:26it doesn't matter.
12:27You love games.
12:29The appeal now is the quality of play across the spectrum while we still can be patriotic
12:35and go USA.
12:36I mean, obviously it's not the same.
12:38I mean, these guys are guys from Team Canada and you mentioned Greeks.
12:40They're all NBA guys.
12:42But do you think the appeal now is just superstar basketball across the menu?
12:46Oh, that's a good question.
12:48And it could be.
12:49I mean, that the changing tastes and attitudes and exposure of a new generation of fans and
12:55you know, I mean, absolutely.
12:57It could be that way.
12:58I don't you know, I don't sense any, you know, any great fervor about about the Olympic
13:04basketball these days for people.
13:08And I thought, well, you know, I'm probably in a minority, but it's a great question.
13:14And I think, you know, we know how excited are you.
13:17But how many games are you going to be excited to watch 50 point blowouts?
13:22Let's be honest here.
13:24Most of the games are going to be boring.
13:26Yeah.
13:27Yeah.
13:28Right.
13:29I mean, until we get to the medal round.
13:30Yeah.
13:31You're right.
13:32Hopefully there'll be some good games then.
13:33No.
13:34But I want to take a look at it and just see, you know, how it works out and who's and how
13:37they're using.
13:38Well, I see one of the issues already that surfaced, one of the issues already that surfaced.
13:42Dare you sit through LeBron on the bench.
13:44We got to start.
13:45No.
13:46Really?
13:47Have you seen that one?
13:48Yeah.
13:49Controversy.
13:50He's got to start.
13:52You can't insult him by bringing him off the bench.
13:54All right.
13:56Give me your starting lineup.
13:57Bob Ryan.
13:58Oh, I got to think I have.
13:59I have to reexamine the roster.
14:00I'm sorry.
14:01No, seriously.
14:02We don't.
14:03All right.
14:04So.
14:05So let's let's go with this.
14:06Joe Embiid.
14:07Joe Embiid.
14:08Yes.
14:09He starts.
14:10OK.
14:11Right.
14:12So Joe Embiid has to start at the five.
14:15Your point guards basically.
14:18By the way, did you see the quote that we haven't talked about this?
14:22The quote from Anthony Edwards.
14:24Did you see this?
14:25No.
14:26He said, basically, I'm going in.
14:29I'm not changing a thing from a year ago.
14:32I'm still the number one.
14:33I'm the guy.
14:34I'm the number one option.
14:36Right.
14:37Well, he came out of last summer and as our best player.
14:42And by the way, we didn't win.
14:44And that reminds me.
14:45So Germany is the reigning world champion.
14:49And you know, I guess they're going to bring back the whole the same team.
14:52I would think of the Wagner's and and Daniel Tice and Dennis Schroeder.
14:59You know, you wonder, I think we ought to be able to put a team together to beat that
15:02bunch.
15:03Although I think I'm a big Wagner fan of France anyway.
15:06But oh, that's interesting.
15:07No.
15:08Yeah.
15:09He's a.
15:10And by the way, it is not as if he wasn't humbled a bit in these playoffs when it was
15:13all said and done.
15:14He should have been.
15:15Right.
15:16Don't you think?
15:17No question.
15:18I mean, absolutely.
15:19There's no doubt.
15:20I mean, that's what makes him great, guys.
15:22It is.
15:23Listen, and you guys know, I was a naysayer to to the right coming out of college.
15:29I was like, oh, yeah, million games.
15:32He's he's kind of wild.
15:33He's not, you know, he's not a great shooter.
15:36All this.
15:37I will say it's part of what makes him great is there's no doubt.
15:40I mean, Jeff, he has to have that attitude.
15:43But you probably know him better than than than than we do.
15:47Will he be divisive?
15:51I don't think so.
15:52I don't think he's I don't think he'll be like that.
15:54I'd be surprised if he's like that.
15:56But listen, again, I don't know.
15:59I don't think I'd start him.
16:00I think I'd make him earn it.
16:03I mean, I'm looking through the lineup right now.
16:06Garvey's got it.
16:08I'm saying, all right, like I probably would start LeBron.
16:12I probably I mean, again, I don't know.
16:14Why not?
16:15Why not?
16:16I don't know how you don't.
16:18The question is, OK, so you go and bead, you go Tatum, you go LeBron.
16:24Those are three gimme's for me.
16:27Are you starting a traditional point guard and you don't really have a traditional traditional
16:32point guard other than Drew Holiday, who I think you bring off the bench?
16:36So do you start Steph and LeBron, Steph LeBron, Tatum and bead?
16:43I would go with those those four.
16:45And then the fifth guy, no, I mean, well, right now there's another not potential ego
16:53situation, which is Durant, who has to view himself as already banged it up a little.
16:57I know he's banged up, but he's already banged up.
17:01So I you know that who knows how I don't know how serious or whether that will linger.
17:05What about this, fellas?
17:07What about Jason Tatum, your point forward, Mr.
17:13So you don't need a point guard.
17:14You got LeBron.
17:15LeBron's going to have the ball.
17:16Yeah.
17:17LeBron can run the ball.
17:18And you have Tatum and LeBron who dish the ball.
17:21That's what I think is what we what we've seen, the way we've seen Tatum play in the
17:25finals and they won a championship.
17:27I mean, you guys know better than me.
17:29If you go walking into the Olympic Village and you got the ring right, you got the ring,
17:35you've got some clout.
17:37And if Tatum continues to play the way he did, aside from a poor shooting performance,
17:43continues to play the way he did Jeff during the championship, it's going to be infectious.
17:47These guys are going to be the freaking Globetrotters passing the ball.
17:50You know, and here's my starting five, OK, Curry, LeBron and Edwards, Tatum and Embiid.
17:59Yeah, fine.
18:00You don't need a traditional point guard on any team where LeBron exists.
18:04I mean, he's going to have to have the ball.
18:08You've got three guys that could dish the ball.
18:10I mean, you know, it's we saw Tatum Curry himself is a, you know, he's a he's a great
18:15shooter of all time.
18:16Oh, by the way, can pass and get you 10 assists when you aren't looking right.
18:19You'll be fine.
18:20So, you know, his attitude has always been in the right place.
18:23And I think, you know, with Edwards playing with this group, you know, if he gets out
18:26of line, they just won't give him the ball and he won't.
18:30And you need a guy like him, too.
18:31You want you want some youth there.
18:33You know, to me, you want some youth, some toughness, a guy who's going to talk some
18:37shit like it looks like a man like like you roll in with that group like right away.
18:45The other teams are going to look at him and go, holy shit.
18:47Oh, yeah.
18:48Yeah.
18:49I mean, look, they get.
18:50Yeah, there's no doubt.
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19:42I want to get to more on Zack Eadie because he is the the great I don't want to say mystery,
19:50but I think it's here's my thing about the league is if you everybody says, well, the
19:55winners are out.
19:56You know, it's not a big man's league anymore.
19:58Bob, my feeling is, as soon as you get a big man that can help you win, all of a sudden
20:03it's a big man's league.
20:05So how can this guy not play?
20:08Well, things are off in sports, so often cyclical.
20:12And this is a thing that I think we'll keep an eye on.
20:15And I've wondered about this in the last couple of years.
20:18Think about this and tell me, Jeff, I'm not exaggerating.
20:21This is not hyperbole.
20:23At a point in his junior year, his first of two years where he would be the player of
20:27the year, midway or roughly even in that junior year, there was a speculation that he wouldn't
20:33even get drafted.
20:34Right.
20:35He wasn't.
20:36He wouldn't get drafted.
20:38One of the 60 guys chosen would not be Zack Eadie on his way to play a year at seven feet
20:44four.
20:45That's how far we had come.
20:46Yes.
20:47Yes.
20:48After last season, he would have come out.
20:50He would have been gone if he thought he was going to be drafted, certainly in the
20:55first round, even early in the second.
20:58I think he would have been gone.
20:59So to me last year, I think he would have been drafted in the back half of the second
21:05round.
21:06So, well, how does Memphis use them, Jeff?
21:10Do they use them?
21:11I mean, you mentioned that's the buy in.
21:13Here's where it works.
21:15Here's where it works, Bob, is now you can move Jaron Jackson Jr. to the four, which
21:19is his natural position.
21:21So it really does work.
21:23And the guy can get up and down the court.
21:26Can he keep up with Ja?
21:27No.
21:28Nobody can.
21:29But, again, he can make Ja's life easier.
21:32He can make Jaron Jackson's life easier.
21:34The other part is, if you watch his conditioning last year, it was remarkable.
21:40For a guy his size, he never had to come off the court.
21:43Like, he could play 40 minutes.
21:45Now, again, at the pace, it might be a little different than the NBA is playing at.
21:50But he can give you, I think he can play 25 minutes in an NBA game.
21:56It's not as if they're unfamiliar playing with a big guy, by the way, because until
22:01he got hurt, and he was hurt last year, Stephen Adams, who was a better player than people
22:04realize.
22:05Right.
22:06Right.
22:07Not a star, but he ain't as stiff.
22:08That's for sure.
22:09And they had, but they didn't have him at all.
22:12You know, he was for the most part last year, but they were used to playing with a guy like
22:15that.
22:16So it's not like they can't remember, you know, get it back again.
22:19I think it's gonna be very interesting team to watch in that regard.
22:22And I'm rooting for the kid.
22:23He seems like a really bright, personable young man.
22:27And I tell you what he said to me, hey, I got to tell you this.
22:30So after they win in the national semifinal game, and they're advancing to the title game,
22:37and they're going to play UConn, I don't think they knew they were going to play UConn yet
22:41because they played the first game.
22:43I interview him.
22:45And I had said, and I've known Zach for a few years now, sat down with him right after
22:50he blew up his junior year in Portland.
22:53So I've said and written so many good things about him.
22:57But one thing I had said in the middle of last season was like, I just don't know if
23:01he's really an NBA player in a sense that he's going to be more than a backup big, which
23:07I thought was fair, because again, just the way the game's gone more than anything, not
23:12was really a knock on his skills.
23:14It was more just this is the way the NBA games gone.
23:17So he goes, and he had just dominated in the national semifinals.
23:21And he looks at me before we do the interview in the back hallway of the arena.
23:26And and he says, you still you still think I can't play in the NBA.
23:31And I'm just thinking to myself, like, that's what you're thinking about right now.
23:34He just advanced to the national title game.
23:37But again, I think, you know, he took that that chip in his shoulder of like, hey, people
23:42still don't think I'm going out there and dominating every night.
23:46And people still don't think I'm good enough to make the NBA.
23:49I think that is going to continue.
23:51Yeah.
23:52To be him.
23:53And it has.
23:54And again, I love that about him.
23:56I love that about him that he's got a lot of shit to him on the court.
24:01But he you're not going to find a nicer kid off the court.
24:04And as far as the three point aspect of the game, he can shoot a little bit now.
24:09But remember, we got he's young, he can get better.
24:12And there's a role model for all those big men forever and ever now, Brooke Lopez.
24:16And I keep coming back to this examine the arc of his career.
24:19And and and the fact that when he was a lot of them, I mean, Al Horford couldn't shoot
24:23a three.
24:24Yeah.
24:25Right.
24:26He's one of those bigs that that when they played, certainly in college, Sabonis is a
24:31great one.
24:32He never shot a three at Gonzaga.
24:35And then in the NBA now, he's a pretty darn good three point.
24:38Yes.
24:39Well, so let's move on, guys, to the to the brawny, the brawny experience.
24:46What's going on there, Jeff?
24:47Not so good in his debut.
24:49Yeah.
24:50And I really want Bob's take on all this because I almost feel like I'm too close to it in
24:54a way.
24:56And I feel like I've talked about it ad nauseum here.
24:58But, you know, brownies struggled in his summer league first first game.
25:04I think he had like four points, a couple of rebounds, a couple of assists and twenty
25:08three minutes didn't make shots from three.
25:12And he's a lightning rod.
25:14He's a lightning rod.
25:15And and and again, like, I just I think people, the expectations are too high.
25:21And I think LeBron set him too high.
25:23I do.
25:24And I feel like LeBron is to blame in a sense.
25:28Oh, sure.
25:29You're out of this.
25:30OK, so you have to fail.
25:31Yeah.
25:32And again, I feel bad because I think LeBron, again, it's hard to criticize LeBron for too
25:38much in his career and it's hard to criticize LeBron too much for being a great dad, which
25:44he is.
25:45I've seen it.
25:46I've seen it firsthand with him coaching his son's teams, with him being courtside, with
25:50him helping his son's teammates and giving them advice when they come out the court.
25:54So like, it's really hard for me to criticize LeBron because I think he's a he's a phenomenal
25:59dad.
26:00But or at least from what I've seen, but I think he's put his son in a very, very tenuous
26:06position here by saying things like, well, Bronny could play for for the Lakers last
26:12year for saying things, for letting him being be drafted at fifty five.
26:18But if I was LeBron there, I would want the pressure to be taken off my son.
26:23And I would understand how it's going to look if a kid who averaged four and a half points
26:28a game for a losing USC team was drafted fifty fifth.
26:33I would want to temper the expectations here as much as possible for my son instead of
26:39raising him and now getting it to a point where, you know, people like myself are saying
26:44like, well, he should have been picked fifty fifth.
26:46And I know it's a fifty fifth pick.
26:48I get it.
26:49It's it's not.
26:50But you've got a guaranteed contract.
26:51And I know he's not the only guy to get it.
26:53I know Trace Jackson Davis got it and Chris Livingston got it because of Rich Paul a year
26:58ago in the second round.
26:59He's not the only one, but it's he's more of the exception than the norm.
27:05But the eyes are on him, Bob, your take on this little like an answer that I've been
27:09saying from the beginning that LeBron did his son no favors.
27:13And as much as you want to allow for just any parent and anywhere in the world that,
27:18you know, sticking up for his kid, he didn't he should have had better sense.
27:22He should know.
27:23He knows the landscape.
27:24He knows the way he's lived and who's lived under the spotlight since his cover of Sports
27:28Illustrated.
27:29Sure.
27:30And more in American athletics lore in the last 20 years than LeBron James answers nobody.
27:37And he should know this.
27:38So, you know, it's I won't say unforgivable, but it's a shame that he didn't realize and
27:44think before he spoke in that regard.
27:46But it's done.
27:47You can't get the toothpaste out.
27:49All the analogies you want, the toothpaste in the tube, the cats out of the bag.
27:52Yeah, it is.
27:53It's done.
27:54And now he has to both have to live with the consequences of it.
27:56And I apparently the young man is strong and realistic.
28:00And when and I loved it when he came out and said he was not his goal to play with dad.
28:04I just want to have a career.
28:06And I loved it when he said that.
28:07I don't know how dad reacted to that internally.
28:09We'll never know.
28:10But but so that's all I know.
28:13Everything Jeff said makes perfect sense.
28:15And I'm not going to root against the kid at all.
28:18I want to.
28:19He's a human being.
28:21He deserves all the you know, all that again.
28:24He's a great by all accounts.
28:27He's a really good kid who handles himself.
28:29Yeah.
28:30So right.
28:31And that's something about the kid.
28:33Yeah.
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