Nai Jamaat Ke Liye Sab Se Bara Challenge Kya Hoga?? Shahid Khaqan Abbasi Ne Tafseel Se Bta Diya
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00:00Then what is the biggest challenge for your political party?
00:02Talking about economy or reforming the system?
00:06Everything. If the system is right, the economy will be right.
00:10What do you mean by system?
00:12This hybrid system can't run hybrid.
00:15It's not even a hybrid, it's a mirror.
00:18Which system, which country in the world runs without a mirror?
00:21Or does it run by breaking the mirror?
00:23We are here, we can run, we can't run.
00:25What is our condition?
00:27So you have to understand that you have to run the country according to the rules.
00:32If you don't run it, it won't run.
00:34And if there is any defect in the rules, remove it.
00:37Remove all the defects.
00:39It is not possible that the responsibility is mine and the responsibility is someone else's.
00:42You have done all the experiments, from hybrid to martial law.
00:46Nothing worked.
00:48But what should we do?
00:50You think we should step back?
00:52Surrender to the politicians and tell them to do their job?
00:54No, don't step back.
00:56Everyone should do their job so that the country can move forward.
00:59Sir, you said that I am paying more taxes because no one else is paying.
01:04I am paying more electricity bills because electricity is being stolen.
01:07Yes.
01:08Wait a second.
01:09You haven't been affected by the theft of electricity yet.
01:12It will start coming.
01:14At the moment, the government is tolerating it.
01:16What is the government doing?
01:17It is dumping the company.
01:19Your cellular data is that.
01:21This has not yet had an impact on your bill.
01:24When will it come?
01:26But sir, it is coming. The bills have started increasing.
01:29Tell me one thing. I remember that it was your government.
01:32You don't remember.
01:33From 2013 to 2018.
01:34Abid Sher Ali's speeches were against the People's Party in Sindh.
01:38Speeches against KP.
01:40You don't collect taxes from different places.
01:43Do you remember?
01:44You had shut down electricity, D.I. Khan, Bannu etc.
01:47Many areas were shut down from here.
01:49The load shedding has increased.
01:51There were protests.
01:52Why? Because there is no tax.
01:53The whole of Balochistan doesn't pay taxes.
01:55Bill. Bill. Bill.
01:56Sorry. I am sorry.
01:57There is no recovery of bills in Balochistan.
02:00You don't get bills from the tribal areas.
02:02Now the problem is that everyone knows what the problem is.
02:05Why isn't there a solution?
02:06Solution. That's what I am saying.
02:08You have also talked about privatization discourse.
02:11Sir, you have only one solution to cellular debt.
02:15That you privatize these discourses.
02:18And there is no solution.
02:20You didn't even talk about it.
02:22Sir, distribution companies say that this is the solution.
02:25This is the solution.
02:26Otherwise, this is not the solution to shut down electricity.
02:29This is an interim measure.
02:31If there is more theft in this area,
02:33then we will supply less electricity.
02:35Then we will be saved from theft.
02:37So, you have only one solution.
02:40Privatize.
02:41This failure is in front of you.
02:43There is a discourse in your country which is privatized.
02:45There is a model.
02:46Karachi Electric.
02:47Karachi Electric.
02:48There, no one invests in cellular debt.
02:50So, after this, you will have to deregulate them.
02:54You have to set your own pricing for each disc.
02:57So that the people there can bear the burden.
02:59Now it is not possible that there is theft there and you put the burden here.
03:03Sir, but in this, you will have to make a regulatory framework.
03:06You will have to bring very good regulators,
03:08who work in the public interest,
03:10so that they cannot increase the price.
03:12See, one reason for keeping the government is that
03:14the natural monopolies,
03:16like this one of Disco,
03:17that whoever is providing electricity in the area,
03:21will become a monopolist.
03:22Because if the other person brings a wire, it will be very expensive.
03:25So, the fear is that he will produce very expensive electricity.
03:27But today, the government has produced so much expensive electricity,
03:29if there was a private sector, it would not have produced so much expensive electricity.
03:32And now the second thing is that you have competition with solar panels.
03:35That in 10-15 rupees, you can make solar on your roof.
03:38So, the private sector will reduce the rate because of that competition,
03:41until you privatize it.
03:43I will give you an example.
03:45In every place in Pakistan, there are such feeders,
03:48where 90% of the bills are not being recovered.
03:51There, you are sharing the load for 14-12 hours.
03:54That is a collective punishment.
03:56But from there, you are not taking 90% of the bill,
03:58because the people of Amla are also involved.
04:00And people are also not giving.
04:02Tax is not collected because you are the finance minister,
04:04because the people of Amla are involved.
04:06Corruption is there below.
04:07Money is made.
04:08Absolutely corruption is there.
04:09I know many cases,
04:10I know that someone was sent a bill,
04:12that is, someone was sent a tax of 1 crore or 2 crores.
04:14Sent a notice.
04:15Sent a notice.
04:16And in the end, it was settled for 2.5 lakhs or 3 lakhs.
04:19And someone took 5 lakhs from inside and settled it for 2.5 lakhs.
04:22If 2.5 lakhs have been settled, then 17.5 lakhs have been taken.
04:25Yes.
04:26So, you also know that money is made there.
04:28You know that there is corruption here.
04:30But we have stopped the dollar.
04:32But why can't we fix this?
04:33Sir, the request is that this thing should be privatized.
04:35It will be easy.
04:36We have tried every way to reduce electricity in Pakistan.
04:40We have tried everything except privatizing it.
04:42As far as the tax is concerned, sir,
04:44the tax that we collect,
04:46we have applied it only on the people who have a job.
04:49We have applied it on the middle class people
04:51who buy soap and have to pay tax.
04:53And we have applied it on manufacturing.
04:55We have exempted all agriculture.
04:57We cannot apply fixed tax on shops.
04:59What did we do?
05:00What did you do in this budget?
05:01Mr. Mifta Bhai.
05:02What was that tweet, sir?
05:04Please look into this.
05:05Please look into this.
05:07You were publicly asked, Mr. Mifta Bhai,
05:09please look into this.
05:10And you did, Mr. Mifta Bhai.
05:12Sir, my request is that when you cannot do this,
05:16do you know what they have done in exchange?
05:18They have said that 2.5% of the manufacturers
05:21will deduct the tax and give it to us.
05:23This means that either 2.5% of the manufacturers
05:25will increase the price and it will pass on.
05:27Because the manufacturers will not give it to people.
05:30I am telling you practically what the problem is at the moment.
05:33Right now, a soap seller goes to a shop.
05:37And tells the shopkeeper,
05:39if you are registered, I will deduct half of your tax
05:42and if you are not registered, I will deduct 2.5%.
05:44He says, I am registered.
05:45He says, give me your NTN number and CNIC number.
05:48He will take both the numbers and go back to his office.
05:50Then he will send it to the headquarters in Lahore or Karachi.
05:53There, it will be checked whether it is in the active tax payers list or not.
05:56Okay?
05:57This is the company that sells soap.
05:59Then he will check.
06:00Then he will tell his son, the soap seller,
06:03that yes, this Madina milk shop is registered in the tax payers list.
06:06You can deduct it in 2.5% or 5%.
06:08You have not deposited this fixed tax.
06:10And you have put this cost on the manufacturers.
06:13I mean, seriously, it is mind-bogglingly idiotic.
06:16Let me take a break.
06:18Everything is so mind-bogglingly idiotic in this country.
06:21Don't call it idiotic.
06:23It is mind-bogglingly idiotic.
06:26You are the speaker.
06:29I apologize.
06:31I take the idiotic word back. I am sorry.
06:33I apologize.