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00:00 You know, I'm really curious too. So how did you end up at SMU? Like that's, you know,
00:08 you have all of these different ways of where you could have gone and how'd you end up in Dallas?
00:12 Probably just dumb luck. You know how it kind of goes. I mean, you experienced it. I was fortunate
00:20 to be recruited by, I don't know, 10, 10 ish programs. And then, you know, as I get older and
00:27 you know, high school kind of continues and it continues and recruitment and phone calls and
00:33 letters and everything. And then the coach at the time here at SMU, Jay Lohr, who was just there for
00:40 my first year while I was in school, he was the only one that came up and visited us in Kansas
00:46 City at our, at our house. I remember we finished dinner and I didn't know where I was going to go
00:53 to school or anything like that. You know, it was my, probably the fall of my senior year. And we
01:00 finished dinner and he just asked, will you, you know, come play for, come play for me and come to
01:05 school at SMU. And I was just kind of thought in my head real briefly that, well, yeah, of course I
01:10 will. You're the only one that's made all this effort to come up here. I mean, I'm not gonna,
01:13 I'm not gonna disappoint you and make you go all the way home. And then, yeah, when you do show up
01:19 to school, you never really know, I don't think, at least for a couple of years, if you made the
01:24 right decision. But I certainly found early on that I did make the right decision. And then, you
01:32 know, post-school, it just makes so much sense to stay here in Dallas. Obviously it's a little
01:36 nicer, yeah, nicer weather than Kansas City. Although we get some weird kind of crappy days
01:43 in the winter. But yeah, the dumb luck of how easy it is to travel out of here that obviously,
01:48 even throughout college, I didn't realize, because all we had to do was show up on time
01:53 to the airport. I wasn't booking any of the flights then. But it's nice that there are
01:57 next to none kind of destinations that I would have to stop or connect in. It's almost, I get
02:06 almost anywhere in the world nonstop, which, which makes it a little bit easier.
02:09 Yeah, totally. And, and the coach the rest of your time there was, it was Josh Gregory, correct?
02:15 Yes. Yeah, my, his three years at SMU were my last three. So Jay, Jay was great. I really
02:22 appreciated him, you know, obviously in his recruitment, Jay was a little older, and at
02:28 times maybe harder for me personally to not get along with, we got along with great, but kind of,
02:34 I guess, for me to kind of process his message, message to me about how he thinks that I should
02:39 get better. And, and then it was, it was just the total opposite. With Josh, he was, I mean, just
02:45 the fact that he was younger, he had recently just won two national championships at Augusta.
02:49 You're like, something's right, man.
02:51 Which made it a little easier to, I guess, listen for some young dumb kid that thinks he knows
02:55 everything. And then, yeah, I was, I was very fortunate with all the coaches I had, high school,
03:02 college, you know, even post college that they were always pushing me to be better. And I got
03:07 a ton of great information from them that, you know, I still use to this day.
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