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00:00 Alright, welcome back to the UC Morning Show.
00:05 As Paul said earlier, we are still commemorating National Education Day.
00:12 In this segment, we'll continue our talk show.
00:15 We're still talking about education.
00:17 As yesterday, we know that National Education Day.
00:21 I would like to ask Paul, as a parent,
00:24 how important is it for your children to get the proper education?
00:38 I don't think it's a question for any parent how important education is.
00:42 But to me, it's just amazing to know that,
00:46 and we're very lucky by the way, we live in Jakarta,
00:48 there are so many different schools to choose from.
00:51 I find that schools, the first thing I was worried about when I had my first kid,
00:55 was people were saying, "Wow, school's going to be expensive."
00:58 But it turns out, it's not really that expensive.
01:01 I find that schools are just more affordable these days
01:05 for the level of education you can get.
01:07 And like I said, a lot of public and private schools have really closed the gap
01:10 between what the curriculums offer and what the school itself offers
01:14 in regards to activities and the education itself.
01:17 And I just think that, you know, I have kids of varying ages now.
01:20 I have one that is in grade 3 or 3rd grade.
01:22 I have one that's about to enter kindergarten.
01:24 And one that's probably going to start preschool sometime in the near future.
01:28 And I find that there's so many options these days.
01:31 Outside of school itself, there's also a lot of supporting educational places
01:39 that you can take your kids in order to prepare them for upcoming school.
01:42 So I think, not only is it important, but it's nice to have the ability to choose these things.
01:49 Right. I think we can say that we have the privilege,
01:53 especially that we are living in a proper place like in Jakarta or a big city like Jakarta.
02:00 But there are still many children in Indonesia who do not receive a proper education
02:08 or even go to school due to various factors.
02:13 So to talk more about the topic, we have Indonesia Mengaja Advisor Arliska Fatmarosi.
02:21 And we have the founder of Kopi Kalian.
02:24 It's a coffee shop in Indonesia and they are expanded in Japan as well.
02:30 We have Fini Charita.
02:32 They are both collaborating to improve education in Indonesia.
02:38 Good morning, ladies.
02:40 Good morning.
02:41 Thanks for having us.
02:43 Great to have you both.
02:44 Thank you for coming.
02:45 So we are talking about education system.
02:48 We know that Indonesia Mengaja is a non-profit organization, right?
02:52 Basically, who are sending teachers for a year in a remote area in Indonesia.
03:00 So now Indonesia Mengaja are collaborating with Kopi Kalian.
03:05 Kopi Kalian is a coffee shop.
03:07 Can you find the relatable things?
03:09 How is the relation between them?
03:11 So Winnie, can you tell us what activities you are conducting,
03:15 your collaboration for Indonesia's education sector?
03:19 Okay, for the first, we are so proud.
03:23 We are so excited.
03:25 Collaboration with Indonesia Mengaja.
03:28 We know about the activity.
03:30 We all know about the journey in education.
03:34 So we decided to use the community place in a coffee shop also located in Menteng, Jakarta.
03:44 We changed, become an exhibition.
03:48 Okay.
03:49 And exhibition place, we can see the photos, we can see the items,
03:55 we can see and read the story about the several pengajar muda from Indonesia Mengaja.
04:01 And the pengajar went in the burn to visit them.
04:08 So all purchases about our product.
04:11 If you know, we have the signature product.
04:14 It's called the Ready to Drink.
04:17 It's in a can.
04:18 If you see the sticker on it, if you see the sticker on it,
04:22 Kalian Untuk Pendidikan, it means that customer will contribute the money to support the program.
04:30 So there are proceeds that are going to this as well.
04:32 Yes, of course.
04:33 So I want to get first of all the back story behind this.
04:37 I mean, Indonesia Mengaja collaborating with Kopi Kalian,
04:40 who approached who, who came up with the idea first?
04:43 How did this all happen? Tell us about it.
04:45 So I believe, Paul, that the same bird flock, the same flock fly together.
04:52 So Winnie and Kalian share the in-depth value of collaboration.
04:58 The same with Indonesia Mengaja.
05:01 We are the voluntary movement with the buffet metaphor,
05:06 where we believe like Paul said earlier,
05:09 that to provide the good ecosystem of learning and education for the future kids,
05:16 for our future generation, it takes what the Ki Hajar Dewantara also say, a village.
05:22 So everyone could support, everyone could collaborate,
05:25 with the same value of collaboration and the participation and the seed of the future.
05:31 Similar to the seed of the coffee.
05:33 I like that metaphor.
05:35 That we nurture, that we empower, and then become the champion of itself.
05:40 Both the kid and the generation, as well as the coffee that we enjoy every day.
05:45 Yeah.
05:46 Very well said.
05:48 While you enjoy the coffee, and then you contribute, or you help in education in Indonesia,
05:55 especially in rural area in Indonesia.
05:58 Wow. So as a coffee drinker, how do you feel right now, Paul?
06:02 I feel even better. I love coffee as it is.
06:04 Now I'm doing it for a good cause.
06:06 Right.
06:07 Like we said, not only the coffee, we have the other product, like Espe Kaleng, like Talas Berry,
06:14 and then the other product, Cold Brew product, if you see and was the seeker on it,
06:20 you guys for education, so that is good for them.
06:23 Amazing.
06:25 So I want to get your opinions on, obviously this collaboration is done for a reason.
06:31 As great as our educational ecosystem and the facilities are today,
06:36 there are still many improvements to be made.
06:38 So I want to get each of your thoughts.
06:40 Maybe start with you, Melphatnaz.
06:41 What do you think still needs to be changed, or what needs to continue to get better
06:45 in regards to education here in Indonesia?
06:48 Definitely highlighting the support of the ecosystem.
06:51 So education is not only the issue of the teacher, not only the issue of the student,
06:59 or the curriculum for itself, but it's speaking of the holistic supporting system.
07:04 How the family can contribute into it,
07:08 how the bigger community could contribute into the places where the students go to school
07:15 with the underserved facilities.
07:17 That's why the mission that Indonesia Mengajar together with Kalian realized this idea.
07:25 So if our kids here in Jakarta, in the middle of the city with proper public transportation
07:30 can go to school by 10 or 15 minutes, back in the rural area in Indonesia,
07:36 there are students that need to spend 5 kilometers by walking.
07:42 And the ones that cannot go to school just because there's a heavy rain in the morning.
07:48 And they treat it as a business as usual, meaning there are so many challenges.
07:54 But we believe that there are supporting systems that could support this.
07:58 And everyone that feels encouraged to support this can take part.
08:03 I did it by donating my one year teaching in one of the province in Sulawesi Barat,
08:11 in one of the region called Majene.
08:14 But Winnie did it, and still doing it, by contributing through donation.
08:19 Wow.
08:20 We can all contribute in different ways.
08:22 Yes, and it's like a collective movement by creating the right ecosystem to support education.
08:29 Everyone can contribute with the individual approach.
08:34 If you cannot donate your time, you can donate your money.
08:36 If you cannot donate your money, you can donate your vote.
08:39 You can support by kami, volunteering.
08:44 There are so many activities.
08:47 Even as parents, you can join a parents association and help with the school.
08:50 Of course, right.
08:51 Even for the young generation or younger generation who loves to hang out at the coffee shop,
08:57 they can contribute.
08:59 Just drink more coffee.
09:00 Exactly.
09:01 Just get the ones with the sticker on it though, right?
09:03 Yes.
09:04 Speaking about education system here in Indonesia, we know that it's already improving nowadays.
09:10 But we cannot ignore that we still have more, lots of homework about this.
09:18 I believe that we are in the same generation.
09:24 We had that kind of experience.
09:27 We had that poor quality education here in Indonesia back then.
09:32 Do you guys still remember any first-hand experience with the poor quality of education here in Indonesia?
09:38 We thought now, Winnie, please share.
09:41 From our side, I think education spread evenly across in Indonesia.
09:47 Indonesian children deserve equal education wherever they live.
09:57 Not only in Jakarta especially, but in rural area in Indonesia,
10:04 the children also mandatory have to know about the education.
10:09 I think that's the point.
10:12 I think as well, like Shafira shared this story earlier as well,
10:16 there's been so many advancement, but not all of these advancements are taking place all across Indonesia evenly, right?
10:22 There's some areas that still need many improvements.
10:25 So in regards to that, what are your hopes for either of you for education in Indonesia in the near and in the prolonged future as well?
10:35 I'm hoping more people will give more example just like what Winnie doing here with Akalia.
10:44 No matter who you are and what your background,
10:47 as long as we have the same vision to support the education in Indonesia, we can contribute.
10:52 And then the other thing that we have to highlight is the local stakeholders in a region.
10:58 For now, what we're doing is we're supporting money, but not for the student or directly to the teacher,
11:06 but also for the local people, local stakeholders that support the student in terms of community.
11:13 For example, the community librarian, or maybe the tutor with only high school degree.
11:24 We can support it by empowering them because these people, this community, are those the ones that are doing the iteration.
11:31 Living with the kids, living with the community for years and decades.
11:35 For Indonesia, they send one young teacher for a year,
11:41 and then this young teacher will stay for only one year, for five years.
11:46 And then they will return.
11:49 It's good for them to have the leadership capacity, knowing how people in the grassroot are working,
11:56 how to truly Indonesia with a different range of activity, not only going to the office for nine to five,
12:03 but going to the rice field from 5 a.m. to 9 a.m. only.
12:09 In terms of that leadership, they bring it back to Jakarta.
12:12 They bring it back to having the local understanding, the grassroot understanding.
12:17 I get what you mean. It's like give a man a fish, feed him for a day, but teach him to fish and you feed him for life.
12:22 Perfect.
12:24 Winnie, you're a very successful business person now.
12:27 You were a broadcaster, I just found out, back in the day as well.
12:31 How important was education? Has it contributed to your success to where you are today?
12:37 I think education is a long-term investment for us.
12:42 And then the most important is not only our profit as a business,
12:48 but also this is a corporate social responsibility for our company to help the children in Indonesia,
12:57 to help them to get the equal education wherever they live.
13:05 I do believe so.
13:07 I have to underline that, wherever they live, not only the big city, not only in a small city,
13:15 but only the rural area in Indonesia.
13:18 That's really good because you being part of this campaign,
13:20 even though Kopi Kalian is in some of the busier spots in Indonesia,
13:24 it's your way of reaching out to some of the more rural areas that you would normally reach.
13:28 So this is like a way for you to contribute.
13:30 Yeah, absolutely. And actually this is not the first program for Kopi Kalian.
13:36 Before we have similar like the program, it's called Banda Project.
13:43 We're focusing in Banda Naira Island, if you have heard that.
13:48 The island is very nice and very beautiful, but even locals don't know where is the Banda Naira.
13:56 So we give the training for the teacher and also same with the Indonesian Mengajar.
14:03 And we collaborate with the Educational Liaison Foundation in Maluku.
14:12 We give the training for a year, also the same with the Indonesian Mengajar.
14:19 So we are very excited, we are such an honor to collaborate with the Indonesian Mengajar.
14:27 So we support as much as we can.
14:30 Nice, nice. I think that, yeah, I agree with you Fatma,
14:35 that probably this is our responsibility to take care of our education quality, of course.
14:41 And we know that yesterday, the 2nd of May, we are commemorating National Education Day.
14:49 And this year's National Education Day theme is Move Together, Continue Independent Learning.
14:55 How do you interpret that?
14:59 Oh, wonderful question, Shafira.
15:02 So as we know that COVID, the pandemic already revolutionized our way of studying.
15:11 The one that usually go to the campus or school now can study from home.
15:16 The one that living in one area can have a teacher from the other area.
15:21 Therefore now, post pandemic, the one that could be redeveloping the adaptation for the independent learning
15:29 is reading alone, studying alone, wherever you are.
15:33 Coffee shop, office, home, with the father.
15:37 We just talked about this.
15:39 No days off, you can continue learning.
15:43 So yeah, I would support the independent learning through reading and writing.
15:48 I like that because I like how it says through independent learning we can still move together.
15:54 That's exactly what both of you are doing, moving together in order to advance education and higher learning here in Indonesia.
16:00 Thank you both so much for your efforts and for your time this morning as well.
16:03 Thank you for having us.
16:05 Thank you, Shafira.
16:06 Thank you for coming and keep on inspiring us to be more aware about our education system here in Indonesia.
16:13 Education day every day.
16:14 Education day every day.
16:16 Oh my God.
16:17 Alright, we'll take a break.
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