JJ McCarthy and Michael Penix have had their draft stock fluctuate a lot. Robert Griffin III has a very unique analogy for the "other" 2 QBs in this draft.
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00:00 The stars of your Dragon Ball Z comp breakdown.
00:03 So, JJ McCarthy, Michael Pennix Jr.
00:06 People are talking about JJ, you know, with the Patriots.
00:08 I told the Patriots are gonna either take Drake,
00:10 take JJ, or they're gonna trade back.
00:12 They trade back.
00:13 Now it's been reported they might take Michael Pennix Jr.
00:16 JJ is a guy, we've already touched on it.
00:18 He's got traits, like the leadership abilities there.
00:20 That's the first thing everyone talks about.
00:22 His athleticism is definitely underrated.
00:24 But of course, even with the pedigree, he is unproven.
00:26 He just didn't get a ton of opportunities.
00:28 Michael Pennix Jr., other end of that spectrum,
00:30 where he had a lot of opportunities,
00:32 showed a lot of his talent.
00:33 Also, to be fair, an underrated athlete.
00:35 But someone, because of the injuries and the age,
00:38 probably gonna be taken a little bit later.
00:39 So, please, feel free to throw in your Dragon Ball Z comps.
00:43 But at the same time, do you think each of these guys
00:45 are worthy of top 10 picks,
00:47 like some people have them pegged as at this point?
00:50 - Yeah, I actually do.
00:51 And I know people will say about me, like,
00:54 "Man, you can't find anything negative about these guys."
00:56 It's like, no, I just choose to show you guys
00:59 what they do great on my platforms.
01:02 - Right. - You asked me
01:03 about Drake May.
01:04 I told you about Drake May.
01:06 I told you about some of his shortcomings.
01:08 But on my platform, I don't need to tell you that.
01:10 You got enough people out there telling you
01:12 how bad these guys are.
01:14 I'm gonna tell you what they do great.
01:16 So, for JJ, I said he's Android 17.
01:20 I'm a Dragon Ball Z nerd, I love it.
01:22 Android 17, when he first shows up,
01:25 is very, he's very undisciplined.
01:29 He's an undisciplined, disciplined fighter, right?
01:33 He just, "Oh, look, there's someone over there.
01:36 "I'm gonna go whip their ass."
01:37 And he goes and whips them.
01:39 I just want to be stronger than that guy.
01:40 And he just does stuff on a whim, right?
01:43 JJ was the same way when he first got to Michigan.
01:45 I want to make every throw, every run,
01:47 every big play, every single play.
01:49 But by the time he got to his junior year,
01:53 he was no longer doing that.
01:55 He was making the right play.
01:57 He was making the right throw.
01:59 And I felt like that progression
02:01 between him and Android 17
02:03 is what you saw in Dragon Ball Z,
02:04 where 17 eventually becomes a park ranger.
02:07 And he's like the most efficient park ranger of all time.
02:11 And he's like, you know, toying with bad guys,
02:14 making sure that the animals are all safe.
02:15 And then he saves the world a couple times, right?
02:18 When you need them, they show up.
02:21 And 7 plus, JJ McCarthy has the best QBR
02:25 in the entire college football.
02:27 So for me, I've heard people say,
02:30 "Oh, he was carried by the team."
02:32 He was not carried by that team.
02:34 Yes, I know he didn't like throw a pass
02:36 in the second half of one of the games.
02:38 I get it.
02:39 You just mad 'cause you couldn't win the game?
02:41 Like, you won the game.
02:42 (laughing)
02:43 But for what they asked him to do, he did it to perfection.
02:47 And he has the skill set to do more.
02:50 They just didn't ask him to do it.
02:51 So that to me, I'm not gonna hold that against JJ.
02:55 I like him as a guy.
02:56 You hear all the leadership stuff,
02:58 but sometimes people say it so much
03:00 that it almost sounds like they're coping for his ability.
03:05 And I just, I hate that.
03:08 No one's coping for his ability.
03:10 He has extreme ability.
03:12 Does he have the same arm as some of the other guys?
03:14 No, but he's got plenty enough arm.
03:16 And this is all respect to him as well.
03:18 He ain't got a Chad Pennington arm, okay?
03:22 He's got more than enough arm.
03:23 It's just that, you know, Caleb Williams is ridiculous
03:25 and Michael Pennix has the strongest arm in the draft.
03:28 (laughing)
03:28 - I mean, it is ridiculous. - You know what it is.
03:30 - So for Pennix, I said Pennix is Piccolo.
03:33 And it's not just 'cause he's black.
03:34 Everyone that follows Dragon Ball Z
03:36 knows that the Dominicans are black.
03:38 And they wore black.
03:40 I can't believe it.
03:41 I'm gonna stop, but I was upset about that.
03:43 I ain't gonna lie, I was real upset.
03:44 (laughing)
03:46 Piccolo was the guy in Dragon Ball Z
03:48 who went from being the villain to being the hero, right?
03:52 Michael Pennix Jr. had four season-ending injuries
03:54 at Indiana before he went to Washington.
03:57 So not necessarily the villain, but kind of forgotten about.
04:00 "Ah, nah, he can't do it."
04:03 Piccolo, "Ah, nah, he can't save the Earth.
04:05 "He's a villain, nobody wants that guy.
04:07 "They just needed someone to believe in him," right?
04:09 So I know it sounds sentimental,
04:12 but Kalen DeBoer believed in Michael Pennix Jr.
04:15 and he brought him to Washington,
04:16 and they made magic there.
04:19 Goku believed in Piccolo.
04:21 And when he did that special beam cannon against Raditz
04:24 and basically killed both of them,
04:26 it was because Goku knew that Piccolo could save the Earth
04:29 and he could make it happen.
04:30 So they both got a special beam cannon.
04:34 And I've said this time and time again about Michael Pennix,
04:37 he is a lefty, but he throws it just right.
04:40 I mean, I don't know if I've ever seen a guy
04:44 make the kind of throws that he made on tape.
04:48 The one that I'll mention is the Texas one.
04:50 It was supposed to be like a fake toss.
04:57 And I broke it down today,
04:58 so everybody go check it out on Twitter.
04:59 It was supposed to be like a fake toss to the running back,
05:02 but Mike was so locked in, he didn't even do the fake toss
05:06 'cause he saw the defense.
05:08 So he kind of like did a little token fake in front of him,
05:10 took a nice one-two rocker,
05:12 and threw the ball like if the DB was in the throwing lane,
05:17 it would have went through his chest.
05:18 He hit it that hard.
05:20 And I've never seen a guy be able to make throws
05:24 15, 20, 25, 30 yards down the field
05:28 like they're five yards away.
05:29 And that to me is a special trait.
05:33 I'll give you one other, I didn't break this in the tape,
05:36 but he threw a touchdown pass two years ago
05:38 to Wayne Tualapapa, which is one of my favorite names
05:41 in all the college football I've ever seen.
05:42 Because Tualapapa, he scored a touchdown
05:45 and I said, "Who's your daddy now?"
05:47 I just, I couldn't--
05:48 - I remember, I do remember that.
05:50 (laughing)
05:51 - I enjoyed it.
05:52 But he was running down the sideline.
05:54 This was against Michigan State, 2022.
05:58 And he threw a back shoulder fade to Wayne Tualapapa.
06:02 It was about 35 yards away.
06:06 And he threw the ball so hard,
06:08 I could hear a whistle from the booth.
06:11 - The booth?
06:12 - From the booth.
06:13 You could hear, "Sssssk."
06:14 I said, "Oh my God."
06:16 (laughing)
06:17 - Am I serious?
06:18 - Wayne Tualapapa didn't have a choice but to catch it.
06:23 That's how hard he threw it and right on his face.
06:26 If he didn't catch it,
06:27 he'd probably be in the ER right now.
06:29 You know what I'm saying?
06:29 Like it was, I've never seen something like that.
06:32 So for appendix, I've said this time and time again,
06:36 go through the numbers.
06:38 Stats are like bikinis.
06:39 They show you a lot, but they don't show you everything.
06:42 But for appendix, look at his numbers.
06:44 He threw the ball more than any quarterback
06:47 in the country last year.
06:48 So he had 36 touchdowns, I believe nine interceptions.
06:53 He had the most throws of any other quarterback.
06:56 So he made the most decisions in the past game.
06:58 And he was still efficient.
07:01 If he threw 36 touchdowns and 25 picks,
07:05 we wouldn't be talking about him.
07:07 But they literally put the game on his shoulders.
07:11 Every single week and he delivered.
07:14 That to me is a special type of player.
07:17 That to me is a guy that I think NFL coaches,
07:20 they wanna have him because they know
07:22 there's nothing that they can put on his shoulders
07:24 that he won't be able to handle.
07:26 - The more I think about McCarthy and appendix,
07:28 honestly, they're very similar.
07:29 'Cause also guys, like you said,
07:30 when they're called upon, they make the play.
07:32 And also they talk about appendix and McCarthy,
07:34 both guys where you talk about character first,
07:36 but appendix is more 'cause it's like,
07:38 this dude has license veins.
07:39 Like he's not scared of anything.
07:40 He's a great leader.
07:41 And you already know in crunch time,
07:43 like he'll make that throw to Roma Dunza.
07:45 You got your X one-on-one.
07:46 Is he gonna win?
07:47 He knows who he's got.
07:48 He throws to him.
07:49 And he has a care of his downfield.
07:51 He makes a tough throw
07:52 and he completes it more often than not.
07:54 - And the same thing was there.
07:56 The same thing was cheating to Roma Dunza.
07:58 You're talking about the Oregon game.
07:59 I know you're talking about.
08:00 He was cheating to Rome and Mike said,
08:03 "Man, that don't matter."
08:05 I said, "Yeah."
08:06 He just beat him with the throw.
08:08 And I just think,
08:11 I know it sounds like a Michael Pennix love fest,
08:12 but I just have a great appreciation
08:16 for guys that do things that I just haven't seen before.
08:21 And the way he throws the ball is like,
08:23 man, that's special.
08:25 That is really, that's next level.
08:28 And I know we all talk about Mahomes and what he does.
08:31 Mahomes is just creative and can throw from any platform.
08:35 This guy has an arm that is like
08:37 once in a generation type of arm.
08:40 So that's saying a lot.
08:42 - Last thing on these guys,
08:43 I feel like another similarity,
08:45 both of them get kind of criticism for their lack of touch.
08:48 You know, it's more like they throw like that javelin
08:50 where it's kind of getting on you real quick.
08:52 I'm curious, is that something
08:53 you can still make work in the NFL?
08:55 Is that something that you can develop?
08:56 Pennix has plenty of experience,
08:58 but is that something you can add to your game
08:59 or is it just something that,
09:00 hey, it's how they throw, just make it work?
09:02 - No, I think, I do think he has touch.
09:05 Like I know Kaepernick when he came out,
09:07 that was a knock on cap.
09:08 Like everything he threw was a million miles an hour.
09:11 I don't think Pennix is the same way.
09:12 I think we get a little enamored
09:14 with some of the throws we were just talking about.
09:16 So it makes you feel like,
09:17 damn, is he throwing like that all the time?
09:19 Like he's really not.
09:20 He's not throwing a five yard shadow
09:22 while he's throwing a 30 yard post.
09:23 So I think he does have touch.
09:26 He has missed some throws, 15 yards and underneath,
09:31 because he's trying to like get it there.
09:34 But that's any quarterback again.
09:36 I think for him, it's just a matter of getting used
09:39 to the NFL structure.
09:41 And he has more than enough arm.
09:43 I kind of went through this when I was even going up
09:46 from high school to college to the NFL.
09:49 The, as you go up levels,
09:51 you can throw the ball a little bit harder,
09:53 not because you're stronger,
09:54 but because the guys you're throwing to are better.
09:56 So I think for him, it's going to naturally level itself out
10:01 because the guys that he's throwing to
10:03 will be better receivers, even though he has some dogs.
10:06 I mean, not all puns intended,
10:08 the Huskies, he has dogs at Washington,
10:11 but I think he'll be fine from that standpoint.
10:14 He'll realize those windows in the NFL are tighter.
10:17 He doesn't need to muster more strength.
10:19 He has that already.
10:21 It's just more about getting used to the timing
10:22 and rhythm in the NFL.
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