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00:00:46 Welcome in today to your boy Pat Lane here with my guy Matt St. Gene as always.
00:00:51 And it's a very special day today. Today is the day in New England, or certainly in Massachusetts, that everyone in the world, or everyone at least in the state, thinks that they can run a marathon.
00:01:02 Like, hey, this would be great. This would be so much fun to run a marathon. You go, you support the people running the marathon, and you think, I could do that.
00:01:08 My wife today goes, you could run this. You could do it. And I'm like, why? Would I want to? Maybe. I could, maybe. But why would I want to run 26.2 miles? What am I doing?
00:01:20 Props to all the people who run that marathon. I do not understand the desire one bit. And I admire their ability to do that.
00:01:31 Right. Yeah.
00:01:33 Which, by the way, shout out to Zdeno Achara, who ran a marathon with, I think, just over an eight minute mile at whatever age he is.
00:01:43 He's a six foot nine former NHL defenseman who played for 26 years.
00:01:47 Absolute monster.
00:01:48 That is insane.
00:01:50 Eight minute mile is insane. I mean, when the first guy passed us, so we stand over by Cleveland Circle. So we're about 22 miles in, roughly.
00:02:05 And the first man passed us running. And I looked at Johnny and I go, I looked at Nora and I was like, that guy has run 22 miles. And he would right now beat me in a race to the corner.
00:02:19 Like, I wouldn't be able to run him. I wouldn't be able to beat him in a race to the corner. And he's on mile 22 of 26. It's just like, it's insane how fast these guys run.
00:02:31 And, you know, I mean, to do a marathon in, you know, I think today it was like 3.06 was the time. I mean, it's just it's outrageous how fast they run.
00:02:41 Yeah, I don't I mean, I couldn't.
00:02:43 Yeah, I mean, I don't run. So it's just.
00:02:47 It's insane. And again, I've ran before I've ran five K's and 10 K's. I've done things like that. But like, why would I want to run 26 point?
00:02:57 My thought was like, OK, if something happened in my life, someone I loved, which my grandparents have passed away from cancer, but like someone I loved passed away from cancer or was whatever, like, God forbid, something like that were to happen.
00:03:09 And like I was motivated to do something and it was maybe, but like, I don't know.
00:03:15 And, you know, and this microwave place says I could run it just really slowly. And listen, I mean, theoretically, running is the one thing that like you could do it.
00:03:23 You could run the Boston Marathon today. You could have done it today with zero training. But your time would have been like eight hours or something like that.
00:03:31 It's taken forever. You know what I mean? And so it's one of those things where like anyone can do it, but it's just not you know, it's it's you got to have a desire.
00:03:41 You got to put the time in to if you want to not be in serious pain afterwards and credit everybody who does it.
00:03:48 Yeah, 100 percent. Yeah. I mean, I'll tell you, it's no joke. I have a lot of friends doing it that did it today.
00:03:56 And friends have done it in the past and, you know, all the credit in the world to them because I don't know how the heck they do it.
00:04:03 Neighbor of mine, Richie, who listens to the show occasionally, he he ran it today.
00:04:08 So and he finished pretty good time, like four and a half hours or something like that.
00:04:12 So, yeah. Yeah. So look, this dad's back saying hello.
00:04:18 Brian Hammond makes a great point. He would run from someone threatening maybe if there was someone threatening running you running behind you for 26 miles, maybe you could do that.
00:04:27 Maybe that would that would improve my time. I don't even know if I could do that.
00:04:31 I might lay down. It's like whatever, dude. Just kill me. It's fine.
00:04:34 Yeah, I'm all right. Like I'm not going to make it the 26 miles. Let's just end it now and deal with, you know, getting all sweaty.
00:04:43 DJ, here goes DJ. If Caleb Williams showed a three, I could run 26 miles to the podium.
00:04:48 That listen, if that was a requirement, it's like Pat Lee.
00:04:51 If you could run 26 miles and you could have Caleb Williams, I'd be like, well, I'll try it.
00:04:54 I'll give it a shot. We could do that. You know, like that.
00:04:58 So anyways, I just thought I was like, oh, my God, dude.
00:05:01 She said we're like leaving the race today and she's like, you could do this if you want to do it.
00:05:04 And I was like, no, I can't. Thank you for thinking that highly of me.
00:05:07 But I'm no, I cannot do that. If you wanted to is like, you know, really undersell, like how much you have to want that.
00:05:15 And that's and that's the thing. Right. That's the thing.
00:05:18 And Farrah says, like, you know, five keys are doable and fun. Just do that.
00:05:21 Which is true. Like five keys are a fun little thing to do.
00:05:24 You can like hang out, have a beer afterwards, whatever. Just kind of hang.
00:05:27 You're not like dead. You're in the marathon and you like die.
00:05:31 Your body is not supposed to run 26 miles consecutively. It's just not supposed to.
00:05:35 Right. And so like and it's not just the running 26 miles, it's the training for.
00:05:40 I'll never forget that. Like I used to do. I used to head on for a head hunt for jobs.
00:05:45 And so I call on this girl who was a senior in college and she was on the cross country team.
00:05:50 Well, all the all the kids, if you go to school in Massachusetts and you run the cross country team, the majority of those kids run in the Boston Marathon.
00:05:58 Certainly if you go to school in Boston, those kids typically run in the marathon.
00:06:02 And so she was training for the Boston Marathon and I called her.
00:06:06 Like early April, maybe even late March, I called her at like nine o'clock in the morning and she called me back at like two o'clock in the afternoon.
00:06:13 OK, sorry. She's like today was my one of my 20 mile days. And so I was like, oh, you've been running since nine o'clock in the morning.
00:06:19 OK, great. Like that's what is wrong with you people. And so, you know, that's just just how it is, you know?
00:06:26 Yes. Yeah, that's I get it. Yeah. Well, but as as we said, you know, all the power to them, it's incredible that they're able to do that.
00:06:35 It's an incredible feat. And so, you know, to all the people in Boston who are running today, you know, congratulations.
00:06:41 Great work. And it doesn't matter. Honestly, I tell you, like, I think the.
00:06:49 The idea of doing it is so cool. Like, I think like you see the course and the history behind it and all that, like that would be cool.
00:06:58 Like if I were going to ever run a marathon, that would be the marathon I would run.
00:07:04 But, you know, I just don't know if I could ever actually do it. And I think at this point, I think at this point it's going to take a while.
00:07:12 And so DJ asked a question about how long how long for a non runner to train for if I could.
00:07:17 They actually have like couch to five K programs that you can do where it's like they start you off with like literally you walk for like a minute and you run for a minute and then you walk for a minute and then you run for like they actually like have that.
00:07:29 And I think it's like a two or three. No, it might be like a like a month or so training to be able to run a five K, depending on what pace you want to do that.
00:07:37 You can speed it up or slow it down depending on on what you wanted to do. So there are things you could do and you know, you could do it if you wanted to.
00:07:46 It's just, you know, I always tell people I hated running. I hated every second of running.
00:07:51 But after I ran, I felt great. And I'm like, this is great. After I ran, I feel great about myself and I just ran.
00:07:57 I'm like, oh, this is great. But but, you know, I don't know. So anyways. All right. Let's get into let's get into what we want to do.
00:08:07 We want to do we want to do your mock first and then do the seven round mock. We want to do the seven round mock first.
00:08:12 We want to let's let's start with mine, because I think I think it's going to give us the opportunity to talk through some stuff, because I think I think we can talk about some of the other options available for for the Patriots.
00:08:27 You know, go through this thing. It sets up a good opportunity to talk about what some of the other options are at some of these spots.
00:08:33 Yep. This is my final draft to the cycle. Your final one will be next week.
00:08:38 So it happened so fast, Pat, with the time go really. It really did.
00:08:43 Like all of a sudden and we're here and I'm like, oh, it's oh, it's here. Oh, OK. All right.
00:08:48 Yeah. Yeah. No. And it's this next week and a half. Like, it's going to go, especially because, you know, we're going to have Bruins and Celtics start the playoffs this weekend.
00:08:57 And once those go in, it's a game every other night. Well, it's every other night between the two. So ends up being every night.
00:09:03 It's just, you know, emotional whiplash going through. So, yeah, it's going to creep up on us real fast.
00:09:12 My mock, no trades in this one. This is my kind of realistic shot.
00:09:18 A lot of my previous mocks are entertaining some kind of hypothetical question or, you know, trying to go through it with a certain perspective.
00:09:24 This is just, you know, what I think is going to do based what I think they're going to do based on what we've seen, you know, who they've talked to, who they've worked out, what their needs are, what they have liked out of guys in the past.
00:09:39 So should we just, you know, get into it here? Let's do it. Let's get into it.
00:09:44 So we're going to start at pick three. I mean, there's been so much talk around the quarterbacks about what's going to happen in this draft, but Adam Schefter has been on one talking about how like Jaden Daniels is a lock for Washington.
00:10:01 He was on a Washington podcast and told some Commanders fans that they can go ahead and order their Jaden Daniels jerseys now.
00:10:07 I think that was earlier this week or last week. Yeah. And that's a pretty big statement.
00:10:14 Schefter has been wrong with this stuff before. I believe he was wrong on the trail and smack Jones stuff at pick three, if I'm remembering that correctly.
00:10:21 But, you know, I don't I think it makes some degree of sense.
00:10:28 I don't think it's out of character for Washington to do this. And I'm going to say something that like, I know it's going to sound weird, but do you know who Jaden Daniels in this draft reminds me of right now?
00:10:41 Who? Zach Wilson. I think they're very they're very different players.
00:10:46 It's not a player comparison. Yeah. We're talking about a guy with a supporting cast, much better than the people around him rising up the draft boards later in the process.
00:10:56 And like Zach Wilson wasn't really he wasn't the consensus number to pick in that draft, but that eventually the Jets fell in love with him and he goes number two.
00:11:05 And that kind of feels like what might be happening with Daniels if that's what's true. If it's true that the Commanders are that in on him.
00:11:12 I've obviously been very open about my reservations with him.
00:11:16 I don't love the idea of taking a guy who is that has that many issues navigating the pocket that high in the draft.
00:11:24 That is a real issue for me, especially when we're thin and we don't have to rehash the whole thing.
00:11:29 But, yeah, that's what happens. Then the Patriots have a chance to take the guy who's been the consensus number two guy, number two quarterback this entire time.
00:11:37 I think more people have Drake May as like the number one guy than outside the top three.
00:11:43 Like people really like Drake. They like Drake.
00:11:45 Now, if Drake May is there at three, I think the Patriots just take him.
00:11:49 That's the smart thing to do. He's not a sure thing.
00:11:52 That's a prospect. He could be Josh Allen. He could be Ryan Tannehill. He could be Jake Walker.
00:11:59 There's no nothing's off limits with him, but there's a lot to like about his profile.
00:12:05 And he's good enough that you feel comfortable taking the chance because of how high that ceiling can be.
00:12:11 And, you know, he has his issues as a prospect, but he did throw for 8000 yards and rushed for 1000 in college in two years as a starter.
00:12:19 Even with the issues he's had with not great supporting cast, not great coaching, he's been highly productive.
00:12:25 He's made it work. Drake May is my pick at three.
00:12:29 Like I would think about a trade back, but it would have to be a really big offer, I think, for me to take that.
00:12:36 I think if this is the way it goes, we probably see Cardinals end up trading out of four and the Vikings come up to get J.J. McCarthy.
00:12:45 That's kind of what I think is going to happen.
00:12:49 But I think you would need 1123 a future first and then like, I don't know, second and thirds this year and next year from the Vikings, I think, to move off of that.
00:13:04 So this is so and so Matt asked about the Panics visit and TJ Daniels just asked, you know, says May versus Panics plus an extra two to three first.
00:13:14 The latter is a no brainer to me and I get it. I understand where you're coming from.
00:13:20 I just don't know how you feel about the player.
00:13:25 Do the Patriots feel like Michael Panics can be a good quarterback in the NFL?
00:13:33 And I don't know if they feel that way. And again, is Drake May a little bit like is he a finished product?
00:13:40 No, he's not. He's not. But I think that he reminds me of.
00:13:49 Justin Herbert. I, you know, I see him and I see a guy that can that just absolutely has a can in front arm.
00:13:57 And, you know, what's funny is that I've seen comparisons between him and JJ McCarthy.
00:14:03 Someone someone tweeted out today was like, why are they so different?
00:14:07 Why are Jake and JJ McCarthy different? Drake is big and JJ McCarthy is faster.
00:14:12 And I keep it, but Drake may has like a ridiculously strong arm and like JJ's arms fine, but like it's not it's not that level, you know, and so I and yes, McCarthy is like eight months younger than Drake May.
00:14:26 But like, it's not like he's that much younger. And yeah, and I don't I think QB age gets oversold a little bit.
00:14:34 I care more about experience than age. I like the fact that Drake May in his first year ever as a starter was the ACC player of the year.
00:14:42 Right. He was that good. Yeah, that that I think is and it's not about the actual accolade.
00:14:48 It's the fact that he was that good anyway. That you're that good, that young usually means good things.
00:14:55 And I like JJ, but he's not I don't think there's I think Drake is a much better athlete.
00:15:00 You know, they're both they're both multi sport guys. But Drake may I think played more sports more recently than JJ did.
00:15:08 He's bigger. He has a more pliable body, more flexible arm can throw the ball further with more accuracy with less effort.
00:15:17 Like I just I like may better there. And as to Penix, I just I'm not interested in Penix in the first round.
00:15:26 I'm not sold in any way that he's going to be a franchise guy. I think there's a lot to like about his attitude, his leadership skills.
00:15:33 He has all of the intangibles. But we are talking about a guy who's very experienced and didn't fully develop,
00:15:39 I think, until a lot later on in the process with a lot of injury issues.
00:15:43 And he's just he's he's not he's not particularly mobile. And he's also late as a processor.
00:15:55 And you can't be both like Kayla Williams, Drake may at times will miss reads, they'll be late to things,
00:16:00 but they make up for it because they can create and like, oh, they missed a play on first down,
00:16:04 but they will make it up for you on second down. And Penix doesn't necessarily have that in his toolbox.
00:16:10 He will make up for it at points. He's not bad. He just he makes up for it with some aggression down the field,
00:16:16 throwing the ball. And like Penix could end up being, you know, a Philip Rivers type guy.
00:16:22 That wouldn't totally shock me if he has that career in the league.
00:16:26 He also be a guy who comes in and because he's taking so many of these shots and trying to force balls into windows and gets there late,
00:16:34 he just throws a ton of picks and never really, really gets an opportunity to be a guy in the league.
00:16:40 And I think, man, you would have to be a huge price to pay to go from made a Penix because with Penix,
00:16:47 you're probably drafting a quarterback again next year with May.
00:16:50 You're you're not you're not thinking about it for at least three years.
00:16:54 Yeah, I mean, you're not you're you're drafting Michael Penix, if you believe.
00:16:57 I mean, the key is you have to believe that he can be the guy. Right.
00:17:01 And I think that, you know, I get it. And listen, if you look at it and say and because Petrus Loko just said,
00:17:08 I don't think any of these QBs are at three, you know, that's fine. If you believe that, that's OK.
00:17:15 I don't see how anyone could have JJ McCarthy over Drake May. Maybe you like the intangibles better.
00:17:22 But like, I just don't outside of that. And I look, I understand. I get it.
00:17:27 He had a higher completion percentage. Good for him. How many times he has to throw the ball?
00:17:31 Now, listen, when they asked him to throw the ball, he made plays in high level situations.
00:17:35 I'm not I'm not denying that he had a phenomenal offensive line.
00:17:39 He had the best running game in the nation, essentially.
00:17:42 But any statistically, he probably didn't. But like they ran the hell out of the ball.
00:17:47 They did. OK, so there you go. So the best running they just they dominated people on the ground.
00:17:52 And so then, yeah, sure, I'll throw the ball 12 times again.
00:17:57 And so his completion percentage was high. But when is he attempting 25 passes?
00:18:01 Drake May this year, it was like, all right, buddy, here you go.
00:18:04 You have no weapons. You have no offensive line and the entire team's on you.
00:18:08 There you go, bud. Good luck. You know what I mean?
00:18:12 And that's the hard thing for me. You know, it's like they're in two totally different situations.
00:18:17 There's a UNC team that went 500 in the SEC, despite having a quarterback that's going to go in the top five.
00:18:24 And he played lights out for most of the season.
00:18:27 That's this team. And this is a bad year for the SEC. The rest of that team is not good.
00:18:32 They've elevated a lot of guys. And I mean, I have concerns about him.
00:18:39 His accuracy can be hit or miss, but it's there's a lot of like, you know, he's going to have to get about two throws.
00:18:45 Absolutely on the money, one a little bit behind where it's supposed to be and one nowhere near the receiver.
00:18:50 Like that's that's kind of the spread you get from him. And you want to see him tighten that up.
00:18:54 And by the way, Faris, no one is saying that JJ going 27 and one is a negative.
00:18:59 That's that's stupid. Anyone saying that is stupid. Yeah.
00:19:03 But it's not it's not that, you know, and look, this is the big thing. Right.
00:19:08 And someone brought this up and I I apologize for not knowing who the source was.
00:19:12 But someone was talking about pro football reference and they were talking about WAA, which is wins above average.
00:19:19 And maybe I mentioned this last week in the podcast, and I'm sorry if I did, but I'll talk about it again.
00:19:25 The top guy in this year's draft class wins above average.
00:19:29 That means you take the quarterback out of it and you look at every other player on the offense.
00:19:32 The other the other 10 starting positions on the offense.
00:19:35 What do those guys look like above average?
00:19:38 What do they give you above the average player in college football collectively?
00:19:43 Right. I think number one, I can't remember who number one was.
00:19:47 I don't think it was McCarthy, but either way, doesn't matter. Number one was like five point two.
00:19:52 It's pretty good. Number four was like two point five.
00:19:58 Right. Which, again, is solid. Not great, but decent.
00:20:03 Number five was Drake May. It was negative zero point zero four.
00:20:09 So literally what they're telling you is that what that stat tells you is that if you just took an average college football player and replaced every single player on North Carolina with the average with an average football player, just an average college football player.
00:20:25 They would actually be a little bit better than they were. That's how bad that offense was around Drake May.
00:20:31 And so you don't see what happens now. Here's the thing.
00:20:35 The Patriots offense look like that right now. So what I draft Jake May three and start on my day one.
00:20:41 Absolutely not. Absolutely not. You do that. I think what you do with him is the Jared Goff path where you you start playing him in the back half of his rookie season.
00:20:53 Yes. Especially if it's like, all right, we're going to play until we're out of the playoff race. And now the pressure is gone. All right. Now we can throw him in there. Let him get some live reps.
00:21:02 I can tell that box is officially checked. And it's you know, it's I feel like we get too black and white about the quarterback debate in general.
00:21:13 Sometimes like JJ McCarthy is a good prospect. He's also flawed. Drake May is a very good prospect who has his flaws. Michael Penix has some really good tape and his his best games rival the best games of any player in this class.
00:21:28 It's just some of the other stuff. And for me personally, I have a bias against guys who are older, who are not older, but highly experienced guys coming out if it takes you a while to get out of college.
00:21:41 I'm immediately a little bit skeptical. And I'm also immediately skeptical of guys who have really good supporting casts. That's Daniels, that's panic. And that is to a degree JJ McCarthy.
00:21:53 I will say one of the things that I think gets oversold with McCarthy is the offensive line. Michigan had I think the best run blocking offensive line in the country was not very good.
00:22:01 Pass blocking because they basically they got they had some injuries late in the season and they almost played like five guards on the line.
00:22:09 So pass protection wise, things could get a little bit hairy. And I thought JJ generally did a good job of dealing with that.
00:22:17 But yeah, no, I think I would be upset if JJ ends up in New England, not interested in the third pick, not going to be upset if panic or next ends up in New England, not interested in either of them in the first round.
00:22:32 Yeah. And Daniels to me is also a won't be upset if he ends up in New England. I don't want him at three.
00:22:38 If there was a world and I said this before, if it was 2021 all over again and the Patriots are picking at 15, somehow Jaden Daniels ends up on the board. Yeah, that I like that.
00:22:49 I'm totally in on at three. I think May is a better prospect and I'm not just that that's the guy I want there. I don't think there's any other quarter. It's Caleb and May are the guys I would take at three. I'm not taking any other guys.
00:23:03 And that's and that's the way I feel about I agree 100 percent. And I think, you know, to a certain extent, I understand, by the way, when you mentioned supporting cast, one thing just popped in my head, which is C.J. Stroud, right, who had a phenomenal supporting cast, obviously.
00:23:17 Yeah. And, you know, and clearly he you know, he kind of proved people wrong on that. Right.
00:23:23 Yeah, I do think that the one thing working against C.J. Stroud there that is supporting cast was coached by Ryan Day, who I still remain skeptical of in a lot of ways as a Michigan fan.
00:23:39 I absolutely love Ryan Day as a talent evaluator of Ohio State. He's very frustrating to watch.
00:23:47 Good point. Good point.
00:23:49 Yeah. You know, it's these these rules aren't hard and fast. Joe Burrow was an older prospect who came out, who had an elite supporting cast and has been very good in the league.
00:23:59 Now, obviously, Joe Burrow did that in two years as a starter. He just took a while to get his opportunity.
00:24:04 That's part of it. And that's where it's like it's not age, it's experience.
00:24:08 Jaden Daniels like has four years as a mid-tier college starter or a good, regular good college starter and one year as an elite starter.
00:24:18 Is he the guy he was the one year or is he the guy he was the other four years?
00:24:22 Penix, Penix is just tough to evaluate all around because of how many injuries there are.
00:24:27 And then like Nix, this is going to be a weird comparison. You know who Bo Nix reminds me of a little bit?
00:24:32 Who's that?
00:24:34 Brock Purdy. He's bigger, but there's a lot of like, you see the questionable decisions, but also when you put them in an offense where you can kind of put the chains around him and make him operate in a structure, you can you can make it productive and you can make it work.
00:24:50 And obviously, you know, Brock Purdy went in as the last pick of the draft.
00:24:56 So a guy like that, I'm not taking a guy like that the first round. I like I like some things about Bo Nix's profile.
00:25:04 I mean, even taking him at 34 starts to make me a little bit nervous.
00:25:09 I agree with you. Well, and look, so this is and just and again, not that I want to slander Jaden McCarthy.
00:25:14 I don't want to do that. But at the end, towards the end of the season, I'm not going to count Iowa because I'm not going to count Iowa because I was thanks.
00:25:21 But Penn State, Ohio State, Alabama and Washington, they beat them all.
00:25:27 Right. Incredible for huge wins, massive wins against really good teams.
00:25:33 Obviously, one of them, two of them in the playoffs, one of them in the championship game. Right.
00:25:39 Jaden McCarthy completed a total. Total of 50 passes in those four games, five zero passes in four games.
00:25:51 I mean, I'm sorry, I want my quarterback completing more passes than 13 again.
00:25:59 I do. Like I do. And and I get it. I know that their offense was this and some of those were big plays.
00:26:06 And I get it. But like we can't you can't sit here and talk about how he put them on their shoulders and took them to victory when it's like he completed a total of 50 passes in those four games.
00:26:17 But that's the problem that I have. Yeah. And that's why I did win, lost record.
00:26:22 Like wins can be a QB stat, but they aren't always a QB stat.
00:26:26 And like wins are a QB stat for JJ McCarthy in that he is a very talented, highly recruited prospect, was willing to be a cog in the machine instead of being the center of the offense in order to win football games.
00:26:41 Right. Right. He just because of how good that offense was, he didn't really have to.
00:26:47 He put them on his shoulders once the drive to force overtime against Alabama.
00:26:52 And that might be the most impressive moment he has a prospect in college. He was he was fantastic in there, especially with the mental toughness.
00:26:59 Right. And don't take anything away from college. That's the thing. Don't take anything away from them for that drive.
00:27:05 But that's it. You know what I mean? Like and again, he's got the I don't want to take that.
00:27:10 I don't want to say he stinks because he doesn't. But it's just it's it's hard for me to sit here and say he's better.
00:27:15 He's a better prospect than Drake maybe because he won a lot. I just like that's that's just not I get it.
00:27:22 But that's just not that that can't be the argument. It just can't be. I'm sorry.
00:27:26 It can't be because he wasn't doing things like Brady was where he was leading his team back from down.
00:27:32 Brady would come out. Drew Henson would stink. He'd go back in and leave to come back victories.
00:27:37 That wasn't what JJ McCarthy was doing. You know, so anyways, let's move on.
00:27:41 I want to get through this because we're almost a half an hour in and we still haven't gotten around to yet.
00:27:47 All right. Yeah. If you guys are mad at me for round one, we're going to get real.
00:27:51 Everybody's going to get real upset here in round two. Wide receiver Keon Coleman from Florida State.
00:27:57 And look, I want to I'm going to pull up some some wide receiver rankings here so we can talk through some of the options who might be on the table.
00:28:06 I think by the time we get to where New England picks, I think your top three are off the board.
00:28:11 Brian Thomas, Jr. is off the board. Lad McConkey is probably gone.
00:28:15 And A.D. Mitchell is probably gone. So those are the guys we're moving.
00:28:20 Now, we know the Patriots need a receiver. Let's take a look at some of the other guys who are available.
00:28:24 Obviously, Keon Coleman, you've got Roman Wilson in this group. You have Ricky Pearsall in this group.
00:28:29 Xavier Worthy, Malachi Corley, Troy Franklin, Jalen Polk, Xavier Leguette.
00:28:34 I think that right there is probably the group of receivers you're considering.
00:28:39 Yeah. Pick 34 if you're going to end up going receiver as we walk through these guys.
00:28:43 I like Roman Wilson as a Michigan guy. Not a ton of production.
00:28:48 Undersized. Hundred eighty five pounds might be just a speed slot in the NFL.
00:28:53 Pearsall, lots of lots of similarities to Roman Wilson. He's a little bit bigger.
00:28:59 And that's that's about it. He's a and he's a year older.
00:29:03 Xavier Worthy, fast as all get out. One hundred and sixty five pounds.
00:29:07 You need to be fast if you're going to be one hundred and sixty five pounds.
00:29:11 Highly recruited. He's a very talented guy. To me, he's almost like a discount Jalen Waddell type guy.
00:29:20 That's who he reminds me of. Malachi Corley, who we both love, who is essentially, I think, a slot guy in the NFL.
00:29:30 Yeah. And Troy Franklin, who is fast, productive. One hundred and seventy six pounds.
00:29:37 Jalen Polk, who I like his profile a lot. Bigger guy can win on the outside.
00:29:43 Tested all right. Has good production. Super solid prospect.
00:29:47 Then Xavier Leguette, who was dominant this past season after four years of essentially nothing at South Carolina.
00:29:54 Fast, big, strong athletic. I think when you look at this, we know historically that Elliot Wolfe's father did not like small receivers.
00:30:04 He likes big guys. Look where the Patriots are now. Pop Douglas, good slot receiver.
00:30:09 Kendrick Bourne, best in the slot. KJ Osborne at his best in the slot.
00:30:14 The guys that they have who we actually feel good about that receiver, the three guys who we feel somewhat decent about are all at their best in the slot.
00:30:22 Which means you put all this together, you need an outside guy.
00:30:27 That's not going to be Roman Wilson. That's not going to be Ricky Pierce. That's not going to be Xavier Worthy.
00:30:31 That's not going to be Malachi Corley. That leaves you with Franklin Polk, Leguette and Keon Coleman.
00:30:36 Franklin, too small. I don't think he's going to meet their thresholds. So it's Polk, Leguette and Coleman.
00:30:43 That is the trio that you are considering here.
00:30:47 To me, Leguette, a guy who is a late breakout the way he is, who to me is super stiff as a route runner, scares me a lot at pick 34.
00:30:58 And I like Polk, but he is more of a third rounder to me than a second rounder.
00:31:02 By process of elimination, you've got Coleman as probably the best athlete, best big guy in that group.
00:31:08 And just taking the receiver here, I think Coleman is the best match for New England.
00:31:17 I think he best fits what they want to do. He gets the Nikhil Harry comparison.
00:31:24 I think he's a much more fluid athlete than Nikhil Harry ever was.
00:31:27 I like his potential more. I hated Nikhil Harry as a prospect back in the day.
00:31:32 There's parts of Coleman's game that remind me of that.
00:31:37 But he's less polished as a route runner here in large part because he was a two-sport athlete until two years ago.
00:31:43 He was playing college basketball and college football at the same time at Michigan State.
00:31:47 He only fully committed to football two years ago. He's still developing this.
00:31:51 And he has the athleticism for it. So you put it all together and it's like, all right.
00:31:55 And he ran a bad 40 time at the combine. Nowhere on his tape does that actually show up.
00:32:02 In his drills, he ran fast. I think he just had a bad 40. I don't think he's actually slow.
00:32:08 He's not a burner. He's not Tyree Hill out there. But he has about the same speed as a Devante Adams.
00:32:15 Yeah, well, someone said his tape is 4'5" and his 40 was a 4'6", right?
00:32:21 And 4'6" is slow, right? And someone pointed out, which is true, that Penix ran faster than Coleman.
00:32:27 And I get it. And we see you and I see you guys out there. I get it. I understand. I get where you're coming from.
00:32:34 I know you don't, but I don't know how much I love Keon Coleman. I will say that like half of the season,
00:32:39 people were talking about Keon Coleman as like a top half of the first round type player.
00:32:43 Yeah.
00:32:44 And I think, and I don't remember, was it Dane that was talking about it? I forget who it was that was saying like,
00:32:51 look at the gauntlet drill. Look at, what's his name's gauntlet drill? Pukunukuwa's gauntlet drill.
00:32:59 And Pukunukuwa, he was so slow. So slow on the 40. Matter of fact, I think he had just about the same.
00:33:06 He ran like a 4'5" 8" or something like that, or 4'5" 7" at the 40.
00:33:10 Yeah.
00:33:11 And, but his gauntlet drill was so smooth. And Keon Coleman's looked similar. Not the same, but similar.
00:33:19 And you know, guys calling for a left tackle, I get it. I understand. And I don't blame you for wanting that.
00:33:26 I do, I do see it. I wonder if you could have waited a little bit longer to draft Coleman.
00:33:37 I do think that, you know, that Coleman has potential. I see him as kind of a Devante Parker type guy.
00:33:46 Devante Parker, when he was young, when he was healthy, was good.
00:33:50 Yeah.
00:33:51 He was old and hurt all the time. Right? So that's, that's the hard part with him right now.
00:33:56 If you, if you got a guy where you get to reset Devante Parker's career and get him again without the injury,
00:34:02 Yeah, that's a, you take that chance. That's good. Especially in the second round.
00:34:07 I like that. And you know, DJ Daniel in the chat is talking about how Coleman was mocked in the top 10 or 15.
00:34:12 It's funny because I remember that. And I spent, you know, back in September, I went through all the receivers who were at the top.
00:34:19 You watch Marvin Harrison and it's, yeah, it's Marvin. He's really good.
00:34:22 And you watch Malik Nabors and it's, man, this dude jumps off the tape.
00:34:25 Then it's Keon Coleman and it's, he's got some good moments.
00:34:29 And I kind of put him on the back burner after that.
00:34:32 Cause I was like, there's no way this dude is a top 15 prospect.
00:34:35 And I think I got too low. I think a lot of people got too low on him because of that.
00:34:39 Cause then I watched him and then I watched all these other second round guys and I came back to Keon Coleman.
00:34:45 And I was like, wow, I, I like him better than just about everybody else in this tier.
00:34:51 Right. Well, that's the thing. Compare him to those guys, not the top guys.
00:34:56 He's not going to be as good as Malik Nabors or Dunzey and Marvin Harrison Jr.
00:34:59 But like, is he better than the guys are going to be going in the second round?
00:35:02 Is he better than Xavier Leguette? Is he better than those guys? That's the question.
00:35:06 And it's, you know, we talk about his poor testing or whatever, um, at the combine, but in like the 40 time,
00:35:15 but look at his vertical leap, his broad jump, this dude is explosive.
00:35:20 And that's when you see the basketball background.
00:35:22 He's he's tall. He's got long arms and he can jump out of the building, uh, which I really like.
00:35:28 And like guys who were like that, who have real explosivity in their lower body, that,
00:35:34 that translates better to route running and separation on the field and ability to win one on one matchups than your 40 times.
00:35:40 Like I care way more about that and testing for a receiver. Um, I agree.
00:35:44 Yeah. And it's, I think it was Daniel harms covers the chiefs pursuing some cutoffs of Keon Coleman.
00:35:50 And he put this on, he retweeted it today. I was looking at it and, uh, there's a clip of him where like,
00:35:57 he doesn't have the most, most explosive deep speed, but he has enough to scare defensive backs.
00:36:02 And then he could just bully them at the top of routes and get open. Um, so yeah, um, I, there's some concerns with him,
00:36:10 but I think it's, I, I don't have any concerns about his athletic profile. It's all technique.
00:36:15 It's all getting better and he's young. He's already been productive. He didn't commit to this sport until late in the process.
00:36:21 And, um, I think he's multiple.
00:36:23 Right. Well, and so rusty points out that, you know, him playing basketball doesn't matter.
00:36:27 And I think it does, like, it doesn't matter a ton, but you know, as a guy, you know, and I don't know what position he played.
00:36:36 He probably was a guard. So he wasn't necessarily playing power forward or anything like that,
00:36:39 but being able to position your body in, in a specific way, like you do in basketball,
00:36:47 I think translates to the football, to football as well. I think, you know,
00:36:52 and the other part of it too, is that I look at it and think, you know, basketball is something that requires so much lateral agility,
00:37:00 especially from a guard, from a guard perspective.
00:37:03 I mean, you talk about a guy that you can't play the two or the three without being at least, you know, like decently athletic, right.
00:37:15 And mobile. And so that's, that's kind of where I look at it. So, all right, let's, let's move on in the, in the, in the, uh,
00:37:20 I do just wanted to note on that. I think it's also just important to remember, like the,
00:37:25 the fact that he played basketball matters because he wasn't fully committed to like his football training until two off seasons ago.
00:37:34 So he doesn't mean he's going to be a great player or anything like that, but like, I mean, shoot Antonio Gates played basketball.
00:37:41 Not that that matters, but like, he didn't do anything in football because he was, you know, he was, um, right.
00:37:48 Was it, who am I thinking? No, who's the one that went to UNC and played basketball at UNC? It wasn't Antonio Gates.
00:37:54 Oh, uh, I think it's Julius Peppers.
00:37:57 Yes, Peppers. But I feel like there was a tight end too that played, um, I thought it was a tight end that went to UNC and played,
00:38:04 played on the basketball team. It wasn't, it wasn't Algie Crumpler though. It was someone, I forget who the hell it was.
00:38:09 It doesn't matter. Jimmy Graham played basketball. So, so it's like, but again, I think that that's, that's a great point.
00:38:15 And I'm happy that your mom played basketball, which is great. But like, but the idea is that he's not, he's not committed to,
00:38:23 to, I think that that's the point. Like he's not focused on football. He's doing both.
00:38:28 Um, and then, and that's, that really doesn't have much to do with anything except for the fact that when he fully commits to football,
00:38:36 you're seeing that now. He went to Florida State and he just played football and you're like, wow, he looks a lot better at Florida State than he did at Michigan State.
00:38:42 Because he's, you know, committing more time to football and working on those things instead of, you know, dividing his time with both, you know?
00:38:50 And I thought, I thought he looked better by the end of the year too. And I also think like it was a weird offense with a lot of mouths to feed.
00:38:55 And Jordan Travis gave you really inconsistent quarterback play and it's, um, yeah, it was a weird situation for him.
00:39:03 So, um, I don't, I'm not sitting here saying he's going to be an all pro, but I like him better than the other guys.
00:39:09 And I think he fits what New England's going to want better than the other guys.
00:39:12 And that leaves offensive tackle for the next pick. So we get to the third round. Um, I went with Mike Fisher here.
00:39:20 Yep. I like him. I've targeted him in the past. He played primarily right tackle at Notre Dame.
00:39:26 So I can see why people don't love him, especially in New England where you just sign the right tackle.
00:39:31 But he does have a little position flexibility, I think could play left tackle if he had to.
00:39:36 He was the first, uh, what do you call it? First freshman offensive lineman to start for Notre Dame week one in like 15 years.
00:39:45 And he did that at left tackle, got hurt. And then Joe Walt came in and took his left tackle job and he went over to right tackle.
00:39:50 Like he's not as good a prospect as Joe Walt. I'm not going to hold that against him too much.
00:39:54 Yeah, right.
00:39:55 He's got, he's got the athleticism you want. He just needs more work. Um, and you know, as a theme you're seeing with all three of these top guys is
00:40:03 we're all young guys who have the athletic ability you want, who just need technical work to improve.
00:40:09 And I like taking guys like that because if you would hit on them, you can get true franchise players.
00:40:15 And also you're putting some, some faith in your coaching staff to say, Hey, we like these guys.
00:40:19 We think that you can work with them. And Scott Peters, the new offensive line coach got to work with Blake Fisher at Notre Dame's pro day.
00:40:26 So this is kind of assuming they like, they saw that workout. Um, but yeah, no, I think that he has the ability to be a great coach.
00:40:32 I think he has the ability to be your swing tackle immediately and can develop into a starter on that left or right tackle.
00:40:38 Yeah, agreed. Agreed. I like it. And so, um, all right, let's move on. I wanted to just get through this year.
00:40:43 So yeah, another Notre Dame player in round four, Cam Hart. Yeah.
00:40:48 I mean, six, six foot three corner was timed at 23 miles per hour on the field last year.
00:40:55 He's got 33 inch long arms. That's almost offensive. That, that actually is the threshold for offensive tackle.
00:41:03 Typically, uh, led Notre Dame enforced fumbles was a team captain, um, and locked up Tez Walker at the senior bowl.
00:41:13 So, you know, I think he, if he turns into something, he gives you the ability to be your, your Brandon Brown or across from Christian Gonzalez to a degree.
00:41:21 If you want to play it that way, schematically, and you know, we got Marcus Jones, we got Jonathan Jones and a whole host of other guys who I think are slot defenders.
00:41:29 And this gives you a guy who's truly an outside corner who can just line up against big bodies and go one-on-one.
00:41:35 Yeah. John's wife has a great question. She wants to know why we don't just talk about this after we make the pick. She doesn't get it.
00:41:42 Look, I get it. Right. John's wife. I'm with you. This is what we do, man. We got to get our takes off.
00:41:50 We got to talk about these guys. We got to see who's right and who's wrong. And then we can, you know, we can evaluate our evaluations later on down the year.
00:41:58 And what the hell are we going to do from December until April? You don't talk about something.
00:42:05 You know, like this is what we do. It's a great question though, because if you didn't care, you'd be like, what, why are you talking about these guys?
00:42:13 Who the hell cares? You know, but and then for me, it's fun because then I see the guys in the league and I'm like, oh, that's cool that I like, I remember this guy.
00:42:22 I love this guy and so on and so forth. And so like Nick Bolton is like one of my favorite dudes and I hate the Chiefs.
00:42:27 But like when Nick Bolton picked up, picked up that fumble and returned for a touchdown last year, I was like, what?
00:42:32 I was like so excited because it's freaking Nick Bolton returned. That's great. You know, so, yeah, you kind of have these guys and you like them and fall in love with them.
00:42:40 But then, of course, they end up somewhere else and it is what it is, you know.
00:42:44 Yeah, yeah. And this is the fun part, too. It's the speculation because right now the world is your oyster and you got a million different ways this team can go.
00:42:52 And in a little over 10 days, under two weeks, it's all those doors are closed and you've picked your path.
00:42:59 So, yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yep. Yeah.
00:43:02 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Round five. Tight end Jared Wiley from TCU.
00:43:10 He's big. He's six foot six. He ran a four to six, two forty dash, which is really good for a tight end, especially one of that size.
00:43:17 That's used the top 30 visit on him. He's an older guy. He hasn't been overly productive in college, although he did just have his best year over 500 yards receiving TCU in touchdowns.
00:43:29 Get to this point in the draft. This is the type of prospect I like to take, you know, big, fast, tight end.
00:43:35 See if you can develop that's 40 yard dash. I think matters a lot more for tight ends than it does for wide receivers.
00:43:41 I'll tell you that much. Yeah, I would agree with you. I agree with you on that.
00:43:47 And we'll move on to the sixth round. It's Christian Boyd. They met with him at his pro day where he had a 38 reps on the bench press, which was school record.
00:43:57 So run stuffing defensive tackle who did really well at the Shrine Bowl and teams love him.
00:44:02 He didn't get invited to the combine, which is probably the first guy drafted who didn't get that invite.
00:44:09 Little short armed, but, you know, can be your Lawrence guy replacement right away.
00:44:13 And, you know, the fact that they've been links to him and I think he's a quality player.
00:44:18 They usually take guys at some point who've been in the bowl circuit, at least historically, they've done that.
00:44:22 So I think he's a fit. And then there are other six round pick here is going to be Nathaniel Watson, who is at the senior bowl.
00:44:31 He led the SEC. He's a linebacker, led the SEC with sacks and tackles last year.
00:44:36 He's a little undersized, but he's very fast. He's older guy, but he's improved every year.
00:44:42 Pat's also brought him in for a top 30 visit.
00:44:45 He's a guy who could be a starting special teams guy and rotational linebacker right away.
00:44:49 So connect some dots. I see the fit there, especially with Chris Board gone.
00:44:53 You know, he can use another body in there to help you on special teams and his experience.
00:44:58 He could rush the passer. He do a lot of different things.
00:45:01 Interesting tool for your defensive coaching staff to use.
00:45:04 Yeah, I like it. I like that. By the way, someone asked someone asked about I'm sorry, somebody asked about.
00:45:12 Renato Green, who's he's a I just wanted to answer this question.
00:45:18 Brian is asking about Renato Green and how old he is. I can't find out how old he is from Florida State.
00:45:22 I'm sure I could look it up if I really wanted or, you know, really went through and combed through his freshman year was 2019, though.
00:45:30 So he's older. Graduate. You think about graduate high school in 2018.
00:45:35 Right. So even think about if he was 17 when I was in high school, I was like the beast.
00:45:40 The beast has his age. He's 23 right now. He's going to turn 24 before Thanksgiving.
00:45:45 There you go. OK, so be 24, which is which is what I was going to say, basically, that, you know, seemed like he was probably going to be at least 24.
00:45:52 So, yeah. Yep. And then and then I wrapped up my draft above means taking him before getting to New England, played with Ticron under war Underwood height, weight, speed guy.
00:46:03 I love it. I love it. Yeah. It hasn't been super productive, but, you know, you're just taking a guy who's got some traits, you like, who has some experience with the coaching staff and see if it turns into somebody.
00:46:12 Yep. Yep. And that's kind of what you're doing late in the draft. Right. Just go after a guy that you think, you know, could be something.
00:46:20 Maybe you won't, but you take a shot and see what happens. So. All right. Let's let's take a quick break.
00:46:27 We'll come back and we'll do our seven round mock. And then there are some players who want to talk about in between here during the mock.
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00:47:45 All right, we're back. By the way, the comments coming about Drake May.
00:47:54 There's so many people that hate Drake May. So many people.
00:48:00 And I I for one personally and I you know, I mean, I'm not the biggest Drake May fan in the world.
00:48:06 I drink me, but I'm not like the biggest Drake May fan in the world.
00:48:10 I want him to succeed here so badly so that all of those people can just like shot the hell up.
00:48:18 I just like I it is what it is, man. And I, you know, look, there are people that I understand it.
00:48:25 I get it right. Like he's Mr. Biscay. He's this. He's that. He's not good. He's a busty.
00:48:32 And maybe that's true. Maybe that's true. Maybe it is. And that's OK.
00:48:36 I just you know, I don't. That's fine. And people can have opinions.
00:48:41 My thing is this, right. I think that this I look at this year's class.
00:48:46 I'll use 2020, 2021 as an example. I knew for a fact Zach Wilson would be a bust.
00:48:52 I knew he would be. I'm like, you just watch him. He's going to be a bust.
00:48:55 Hundred percent. I don't see a guy like that in this year's draft.
00:48:59 I was extremely worried about Trey Lance in 2021, extremely worried about Trey Lance.
00:49:05 Right. And again, TD, I know one guy said he'll get his coaches fired.
00:49:11 That's great. That's great. Merrill Hodge, I think, said that. Good for him.
00:49:16 Any any quarterback you draft if they bust will get a coach fired.
00:49:20 Right. And and I don't think by the way, I don't think I don't think to me.
00:49:24 Right. I don't think that's even the case. But whatever. Doesn't matter.
00:49:28 You know, and look, we can look at different players and say, but this year's draft is different than 2021.
00:49:34 Twenty twenty one year, Trevor Lawrence, who was essentially like if you bred a 21st century quarterback in a lab, that's what you would have gotten.
00:49:42 I have watched last year's North Carolina games, by the way, in case you're wondering.
00:49:45 But I mean, not that it matters to you, but that's OK. He wasn't horrible.
00:49:48 It's all right. It's fine. I'm not we're not having a discussion. It's fine.
00:49:52 My point is this, right. I don't think there's a and by the way, these quarterbacks are like multiple of these quarterbacks going to stink in the league.
00:50:01 That's just like probability. Is that multiple more than one, more than half maybe of these quarterbacks are not going to be very good in the NFL.
00:50:11 That's just the truth. Right. I mean, that's just what we've seen over the period of time.
00:50:16 But I don't see and to me, there's no obvious bus that I see, at least I think there's a chance that some guys will get, you know, overdrafted.
00:50:28 And there's a chance, but I look at each player on here and I have good reasons why I think they'll all be good.
00:50:36 And I also have some good reasons why I think they could if they don't make it, this is why they won't make it.
00:50:41 And so it's it's a unique year because I feel like all these guys are super talented, but I have concerns about every single one of them.
00:50:50 Even Caleb Williams. I love Caleb Williams. But there are some serious questions about Caleb Williams and Jaden Daniels, who most likely is going to go number two.
00:50:59 I have some serious questions about Jaden Daniels as well. And so, you know, that's that's the hard thing for me.
00:51:05 And that's life taking quarterback. I mean, rarely are these guys polished products when they are, they go number one and people tank for them.
00:51:12 Like that's how valuable these guys are. So at a certain point, a quarterback, you got to live with an imperfect guy and hope that you can improve him.
00:51:20 That's really that's really all there is to it. So you take shots that you think are high quality and you keep taking them until you get a quarterback.
00:51:27 In the meantime, you build a team. Yeah. Yep. Agreed.
00:51:31 So all right. So let's get into this. Let's do this seven round mock here. We're going to do a seven round mock, live seven round mock.
00:51:39 And we'll go from there. You know, we'll just see. We'll see where where it leads us.
00:51:45 I don't know about. Yeah, I don't know. We'll see. Let's see. Let's just see where it goes.
00:51:50 Maybe we'll trade back. Maybe we'll draft Drake May at number three. Who knows?
00:51:53 I will say, though, doing this with Austin last week really kind of opened my eyes to, you know, I know that you drafted guys at 34 in this net where we're doing just a regular mock draft.
00:52:03 I feel like. We should either trade back from three. Or trade back from 34. Or trade up from 34.
00:52:17 I feel like drafting three, 34 and 68. There weren't a lot of guys that we liked by the time we got to 68. Right.
00:52:24 So you end up in a really, really weird spot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So let's do it.
00:52:33 Yeah. These settings all look good. Yeah. Yeah. We're doing this. The PFF simulator for anybody who's listening.
00:52:42 Yeah. So we'll get into this. See who goes one and two. It's Caleb Williams and Drake May off the board in this one as the first two picks.
00:52:52 So what are you thinking, Pat? Do we just trade back? I think we trade back. Yeah. I like the idea of trading back here.
00:52:59 And we talked about this anyways about moving back. So let's just see what's available. Atlanta wants to move up, which is interesting.
00:53:05 Yeah. And I don't think that's I think we'll keep this realistic. I don't think Atlanta or Chicago actually wants to.
00:53:11 Yeah. I think Denver wanting to move up is realistic. I think I don't think the Saints.
00:53:16 You never know with the Saints. I think the Broncos wanting to move up is the most realistic of this group.
00:53:21 So that's where I would go with this. All right. So let's do the Broncos. And then what is this going to look like?
00:53:28 Let's see. Oh, baby. They don't have a ton of assets. It's one of the issues here.
00:53:36 They don't have a second round pick this year.
00:53:40 We can do this and pretend that where there's a 2026 first involved as well.
00:53:47 I mean, that's so much.
00:53:49 I don't sorry. I mean, that's I mean, when we're calculating it, like it would be probably something like this and a 2026 first, I think is.
00:53:57 All right. So we're saying so 1276 and two first. Yeah. First in 2025 and a person 2026.
00:54:04 I think that makes sense to me. You get, you know, two future years of first round picks and a third round pick this year.
00:54:12 And again, it's a little bit later in the third round, but that asset is going to allow you, if you want to move up from 34 to move up from 68.
00:54:24 Like, you know, so that kind of gives you a little flexibility. So. So, yeah, let's do that.
00:54:29 And again, we'll just we'll pretend as though there's a 2026 first involved where, you know what, just throw in a round two from 2025.
00:54:37 Same thing, right? I mean, it's not, but it's, you know, we'll do it for the idea.
00:54:43 We'll do this. All right. All for this trade to move back to 12 trade accepted.
00:54:47 So we'll skip ahead to 12 here. No. Yeah, let's do it. Yeah. I don't think we'll. Well, yeah, I don't think we want to move back up.
00:54:54 Yeah. So. All right. Patriots now picking at 12 with Cooper Dajean at 11. What?
00:55:02 Yeah, that's wild. So some of the top guys on the board at this point, Johnny Newton, defensive lineman from Illinois,
00:55:10 Liatula to the defensive end from UCLA, Troy Fatanu from Washington, the tackle Olufasanu is here, J.C. Latham is here.
00:55:18 So you got three of the top tackles. You get two of the top edge guys and Dallas Turner and Jared Virs right there.
00:55:24 You still have Terry Arnold, the top corner on the board. Somehow, Jaden Daniels is still on the board here.
00:55:31 We're just going to we're going to just pretend that Denver took him. Yeah, because that makes no sense.
00:55:38 Right. Because why would you give up multiple first round picks to move up to take the neighbors?
00:55:42 Not that I like league neighbors, but like you're not giving up that package from elite neighbors.
00:55:47 Yeah. So and Cooper Dajean goes 11 to Minnesota, who desperately needs a quarterback.
00:55:52 They don't take Jaden Daniels like, OK. All right. Makes sense.
00:55:56 By the way, you know, well, JJ McCarthy and I mean, this is a wild mark.
00:56:01 What's going on here? JJ McCarthy is gone at 11 or six.
00:56:07 That's what I mean. Yeah, there's no way. So if this is I personally here, I think I'd be picking between Olufasanu and Troy Fatanu.
00:56:19 100 percent. Yeah, that that's what I'm that's what I'm looking at. And I think both of them, you could certainly make the argument for both of them.
00:56:27 They both play left tackle. And so I can see it.
00:56:32 Let's take a look at the chat. Let's see what the chat had to say.
00:56:35 Chad, if we if we were start over, this the same is compromised.
00:56:42 We have a vote for Fashanu. Reset the simulation. People ask. We're not resetting the simulation. We're here.
00:56:47 We're committed with this. We're done. We've we've committed.
00:56:53 So you're choosing between Chad, you're choosing between Olufasanu and Troy Fatanu.
00:56:59 We're not taking a quarterback here because it's unrealistic that either of those would be available.
00:57:06 I just like I just don't I don't see a world in which Jaden Daniels or JJ McCarthy will be available at 12.
00:57:13 And so we're just not taking them on principle.
00:57:17 Did you deal with voting for Latham? You're not following directions there, G.J.
00:57:20 Daniel, because it's Olufasanu or Troy Fatanu. We're not letting you choose.
00:57:25 You see people. Some people really like J.T.
00:57:29 He played right tackle. So I don't that. Yeah, that's the issue that I have is that he's mostly a right tackle.
00:57:36 He can play left tackle, I think. But. OK, looks like no, it's OK, G.J., I'm just giving you my time.
00:57:45 But let's go let's go. Olufasanu, there's enough enough votes for Olufasanu that let's go for Olufasanu there at 12.
00:57:52 Olufasanu to pick at. Oh, my goodness. I forgot. I did this and I forgot to click seven round mock.
00:57:57 I hit one on all those people who wanted us to reset. We're resetting.
00:58:00 Guess what? Resetting after all. Oh, my God.
00:58:07 Oh, my goodness. We run a real tight ship over to a great start.
00:58:10 All right. Let's try this again. All right. We'll do the. Can we do the same trade again?
00:58:14 Same trade with Denver. Twelve seventy six. One of the two for number three.
00:58:21 Let's concentrate. Accepted. We traded back as well.
00:58:26 OK, he's still there. All right. All good. All right. Olufasanu, love it.
00:58:31 OK, now. So let's see what we got. So now Bonix is there.
00:58:40 So again, this like is possible now. Had McConkie went 32 and I'm very upset about that.
00:58:46 Not pleased about that. McConkie going 32. But, you know, what are you going to do?
00:58:52 So this is kind of the situation we found ourselves in before. Right.
00:58:57 Where there wasn't a ton of guys on the board. Now, Braden Fisk is a guy that I think has a lot of upside as a pass rushing interior defensive lineman.
00:59:06 I think it's a luxury pick. Like I'd like Braden Fisk. And if you like this, I think this is too early for him for me.
00:59:13 Yeah. But I also I look at it and think if you had in the. And of course, I understand that Denver doesn't have one.
00:59:19 But if you had picked up a second and a third round pick, so you had two second round picks here, this would be the type of guy I would go after would be a Fisk or even like a Chris Braswell was a beast from from Alabama.
00:59:31 But like a guy like that on the offense, on the defensive line. But where you only have this one second round pick, I wouldn't necessarily do that.
00:59:40 Now, Penix is still available. We could take Michael Penix here at 34. Bonix still available.
00:59:45 Bonix still available. And why? Why are you not looking great?
00:59:50 It's Franklin Wilson, Pearsall Burton, Jermaine Burton.
00:59:54 That's a guy I didn't talk about earlier. I really like parts of his game. It's just there's some, I think, personality questions.
01:00:01 I mean, you know, one of the one of the best quotes I've heard about Jermaine Burton is that there are two to coaching staffs that hate Jermaine Burton.
01:00:09 So it's like you're taking an awfully big risk, you know? Yeah.
01:00:13 Ken Coleman, Jalen Polk, is a Philly get. I can't see the chat right now, so I don't know what they're saying.
01:00:18 If they have a lien right now, sounds like let's see, because I people are saying Penix.
01:00:30 Yeah, people a lot of people are saying Penix. I also could look at it and and trade back because this again was a situation that we were in.
01:00:41 Right. With Austin, where we were like, I don't know, back and forth, and we took a guy and we didn't really love him.
01:00:49 Why don't we why don't we see if we can move back from 34 to like that mid 40 range?
01:00:55 All right. Well, because why receiver Packer Packers here at 41? OK, they want to move up in this.
01:01:02 Let's see. It wouldn't give us 58 88 to move up.
01:01:07 I hate that. Yeah, another another third round back. Yeah.
01:01:13 And what about that? See if they'll give us like a fifth next year or something like that.
01:01:20 Let's see. I don't think this is going to go through, but we can offer it. Yeah, they didn't. We take out the fifth. I bet it'll go through.
01:01:28 Am I good to do it? Yeah, yeah. Trade accepted.
01:01:32 I'm moving back seven spots. Yeah. And getting another third round pick, which isn't bad.
01:01:37 I'll take that. By the way, there was someone someone in the chat asked about sending in a a mock draft.
01:01:45 If you have mock drafts to send in, I'll remind everyone at the end. But if you have mocked us and then send them to Pat's Nation Network at Gmail dot com, Pat's Nation Network at Gmail dot com.
01:01:56 We're going to do some tonight and we just we don't have any time. So we're not going to give them today, but we will do them on Thursday.
01:02:01 We are going to have a guest on Thursday and we'll go through them. Yeah.
01:02:05 Braden Fist still available. I'm like Nixon Panics are still here.
01:02:09 And this is the range where I feel comfortable taking either one of them.
01:02:13 Yeah. So let's let's take that. I I personally like Panics over Bonick's personally.
01:02:20 And so I would prefer Panics over Nix Panics.
01:02:23 Forty one is the pick here and then we're going to go all the way down to Patriots picking at sixty eight.
01:02:30 They also pick at seventy six and eighty eight and one oh three.
01:02:33 So a whole string of picks here in a row. Nice. Yeah.
01:02:38 I'm going to say the name that jumps out to me right here at sixty eight is Javon Baker, the UCF receiver.
01:02:43 That's a bigger guy. Tess Walker, if you want a bigger receiver like Fisher, if you're looking for a tackle.
01:02:49 I know I just talked about him. I think Jalen Polk is gone.
01:02:53 Yeah. Yeah. Jalen Polk is the other Jalen is here. McMillan.
01:02:57 I also we didn't talk about this guy, but Johnny Wilson is on the board.
01:03:02 I think I think sixty eight is just a little early for Johnny Wilson, although I wouldn't hate it at sixty eight.
01:03:08 Johnny Wilson, for those who don't know, six, six wide receiver from Florida State.
01:03:13 He's not super dominant. He's not. I don't like seven.
01:03:19 Yeah, it's such a he's such a strange guy. Yeah, because like I'm like, OK, he's huge, but he's like not super fast.
01:03:29 He's like he's like an even bigger market has felt this.
01:03:33 Yeah, it's really. And his hands are good, but not great.
01:03:37 Yeah. The whole thing with him. But at the same time, if he's able to like he does have some decent speed to him,
01:03:44 like if he's able to figure things out, he could be one of those guys that just like he's just a freak.
01:03:49 He's six, seven, and he's just so much bigger than everyone else.
01:03:52 He can just dominate. But at the same time, I'm like, I don't know how much I love.
01:03:56 You know what I mean? It's like I'm on the fence of them and I know how much I love. So I don't know.
01:04:00 I would go, Javon Baker. I don't know what the what the chat is saying, but Javon Baker is kind of where I lean.
01:04:07 Yeah, I'm going to win on the other. Like I'm not a big Tez Walker guy and I like Jalen McMillan, but he's I think a slot in the NFL.
01:04:14 I'd rather say trade back again. We can't do it.
01:04:17 We can't take somebody can't do it again. Baker six one two oh eight had over a thousand receiving yards this year.
01:04:28 Matt Manito catches good. You go over there. Can you Matt Manito?
01:04:32 I want you to explain why you should be in on Javon Baker because he just doesn't see it.
01:04:37 I mean, we're at a point where you're just taking chances on guys.
01:04:42 And, you know, I guess stats are up on the screen there. You know, he played pretty well.
01:04:47 I don't know how it's going to translate to the NFL. You're jumping from UCF, which is a kind of mid tier school there in college football.
01:04:54 But, yeah, the guy's been highly productive and it's the guy is available here.
01:04:58 Baker has been highly productive at a lower level as an outside guy.
01:05:02 Tez Walker is a guy who's been a lot more inconsistent and I think has a lot more room to grow is.
01:05:11 Yeah, he's not super polished. So I Eileen Baker, it's the third round.
01:05:16 You know, I'm probably I think we should probably take two receivers in this next group of picks.
01:05:21 I agree with you. I agree with you. So I'm OK with I'm OK with Baker. That's fine.
01:05:26 I'm OK with that. Sweet. All right.
01:05:31 Now, 76. Tez Walker, Johnny Wilson, still here, Blake Corum, Jomari Thrash, Bucky Irving, Malachi Corley.
01:05:43 The name interesting is Patrick Paul. That's an offensive tackle.
01:05:48 He's an older guy played only left only on the left side, but he's six, seven, three, 15.
01:05:56 And he could have come out last year, honestly, and stayed. But he's got elite size.
01:06:02 He can move people in the running game. Just an older dude who might be just OK.
01:06:09 So, yeah, I think is I feel like his floor should be fairly high.
01:06:14 But at the same time, I look at Patrick Paul and think like he's a big dude.
01:06:20 He's got a ton of experience, but I also think he needs like a good amount of growth as well.
01:06:25 So he's kind of like a weird prospect because he's not like a finished product.
01:06:29 And he's also not like a dominant player. You know what I mean?
01:06:33 So I don't know. It's it's a strange spot for him to be in.
01:06:39 I like the guy, but I do like him. I mean, that's the thing is I like the guy.
01:06:42 So I don't know. Who knows? Yeah, this is a weird group of players right here,
01:06:48 because you can go in a lot of different directions.
01:06:50 You already have Jacob Cowling available per chance.
01:06:53 I think I think they have him in the hundreds somewhere. Yeah, they have him at one of the one oh seven.
01:06:59 So maybe we could even take him in the next in the next pick.
01:07:02 Could we look at I like calling quite a bit and he's a little bit smaller, but I like him quite a bit.
01:07:08 He's kind of a he's not necessarily a flex guy, but I'm not necessarily a slot guy.
01:07:12 I'm sorry, but he's not doesn't have the size of some of these other guys.
01:07:15 But Bucky Irving's an interesting name. Jeremiah Trotter Jr.
01:07:19 Just because his dad's like was a beast and they could probably use another guy like that.
01:07:28 He's only six feet. I mean, the problem with Trotter is he just like he's just not huge.
01:07:34 Right. Like that's not great against the run. Like, yeah, he's not super explosive.
01:07:39 I feel good about Bentley and divine there against the run.
01:07:44 Well, the other question is interesting to me is is Christian Mahogany.
01:07:47 I was just going to say that. Yeah. Yeah. Super solid guard who could do a lot.
01:07:53 And apparently he's been pretty good in the free draft process. Three hundred and twenty two pound guard.
01:07:58 Yeah. And again, it's it's one of those situations where you look at the at the guard situation and you say, I like city.
01:08:06 So and I like Cole Strange. But I don't know how I don't feel like they are the 100 percent long term solution there at guard.
01:08:20 And I don't know if they can stay healthy either. Yeah.
01:08:23 And you could also look at it and say, well, Cole Strange, I think, has the position of flexibility to perhaps play center.
01:08:32 You know, and so I wonder if a guy like Christian Mahogany makes sense at 76.
01:08:36 I know it's early to take an interior offensive line and people are going to hate it.
01:08:39 Like I'm sure the chat is just like screaming at us to not take an interior offensive line at 76.
01:08:46 But I think it's a need for them. And if there's a couple of our options here, Cedric Van Praan, Georgia center.
01:08:56 Yeah. Another another Georgia center to replace David Andrews is the guy of the future.
01:09:03 They say here he's probably better in a gap scheme, which I don't know if that's what they're going to be running.
01:09:08 So he may not necessarily be a scheme fit. Right.
01:09:11 Mason McCormack was left guard who came up from South Dakota State. Yeah.
01:09:16 Sorry. I'm not taking not taking a South Dakota state left guard.
01:09:19 And I honestly believe in Christian. You can only go Renardo Green if you want to press man corner here.
01:09:25 I don't like I would go between Renardo Green and Christian Mahogany here personally.
01:09:30 OK, I'll let you take it. I'll let you take it because my. Yeah, I'll let you take it.
01:09:36 Good. I'm going to go. I think Renardo Green is more likely to get taken. So I'm going to take him here just because he's a older press.
01:09:43 Oh, he's small. He's not. He's like six feet. It's one eighty six is the issue.
01:09:49 Yeah. Eighty six pounds. Oh man. So I think there's a chance either is available at 88 as well.
01:09:56 What about Cam Hart? He I mean, he's also still on the board. He's further down. I'm pretty sure.
01:10:06 Let's see, where do they have Cam Hart? Yeah. One twenty two. All right. Let's go with Christian Mahogany then.
01:10:10 Because we have a backup plan on Renardo Green. All right. Let's do that.
01:10:14 So let's go Christian Mahogany and then we'll either go Ricardo Green or Cam Hart in the next pick.
01:10:18 Yeah. Renardo Green here at 88. You can go receiver here.
01:10:26 Brendan Rice, if that interests you. Another offensive lineman, Dominic Pooney, if you want to go that route.
01:10:35 Eric Hall. This is fun. Yes, Eric Hall could be. I mean, you know, look, I just think, you know, there's a lot of we could do Brendan Rice as well.
01:10:46 Jerry's dad, Jerry's son, you know, I mean, Bucky Irving, TJ says, which I think is a good which which is interesting as well.
01:10:55 Ben Sinnott. Oh, my God. You know, I was with Ben said the P is one thirty one, which I don't get.
01:11:03 I think he's going to go wild. That's wild to me. So. All right.
01:11:11 What do you think, man? There's so many good options on the board. I like I like right.
01:11:17 I put this way. Yes. He bends in it because because PFF is is broken.
01:11:25 Benson, it's going to be on the board on the next pick, probably most likely.
01:11:30 And so I would say either Bucky Irving or Brendan Rice.
01:11:38 And I'll let you choose between those two. And I just chose the last guy, but I'm going to let you. Yeah.
01:11:43 I mean, Bucky Irving is so tough because I love, love, love his tape. And then his measurables were awful.
01:11:49 He did not have a great combine. He's such a tough guy to and you see the PFF grades here.
01:11:56 He grades out incredibly well. He's a good receiver and a good runner. He's just a little small.
01:12:03 You know, we'll take Bucky Irving. Why not? I like him. I like Irving. Irving at 88.
01:12:10 We're going to one of three. Let's see. We got Eric all on the board.
01:12:15 Jacob Cowling is here. Tyrone Tracy, Kid Stover, Cam Hart, obviously still here.
01:12:22 Audrick Estime. I think that's how you say it. Notre Dame back. I don't know if you've seen this guy play.
01:12:27 Yeah, a little bit. He's like a bowling ball. He's probably the closest thing I've seen to an almost like Ligeret Blount type running back since he came out.
01:12:37 He's a young dude, too. Not that they need running back, but we just took one.
01:12:41 But so I mean, look, I would say I would say here.
01:12:46 I'm going to throw another name at you. And that's Cole Bishop. I didn't think he was still on the board.
01:12:50 I think he goes way higher than this super versatile safety, who's mostly a true free safety.
01:12:58 And he had a really good combine. He's super athletic. Junior 62 to seven.
01:13:06 We got to see what we're going to do at the safety spot. But if you're looking for a free safety,
01:13:10 I think Cole Bishop is a guy like a lot for that role in this draft.
01:13:13 OK. Yeah, I mean, I you know, I was leaning Ben Sinnett or Jacob Cowan.
01:13:20 I like Jacob Cowan a lot. Yeah, he's just so smooth at wide receiver.
01:13:28 And so I like I like the idea of of getting another wide receiver, you know, and kind of going from there.
01:13:37 So but again, I'm down with whatever with whatever people want or whatever, whatever you would like.
01:13:43 But I like and I mean, you know, you know how much I love Ben Sinnett.
01:13:47 So I'm cool with either of those. We haven't draft because Brendan Rice goes one on one.
01:13:51 Freaking Caroline did. DJ Daniel says if we didn't have pop, I'd love cowing.
01:13:57 That's exactly my concern. It's like I like cowing, but like I don't like it.
01:14:02 And I get it. I get it. I don't know if he can play outside. That's the only question.
01:14:07 I'm seeing a lot of Cole Bishop love in the chat, which I was not expecting to see.
01:14:12 Yeah, I was do it. Let's do Cole Bishop. I'm cool with that.
01:14:16 Yeah, he's a guy who I think he goes higher than this in the actual draft.
01:14:21 But yeah, Cole Bishop safety at a Utah one of three address that free safety spot.
01:14:26 And then a long, long way down to one thirty seven.
01:14:31 We got some halfbacks like Will Shipley, Isaac Durando, Braylon Allen, corner and Kaelin Carson.
01:14:37 And people like him. Josh definitely for us. Yeah. Yeah.
01:14:41 Christian Boyd here. Theo Johnson still on the board.
01:14:46 If you want to go tight end, I don't hate that here at all. Yeah.
01:14:50 And again, Theo Johnson's just a guy that like he's an athletic freak.
01:14:55 And so he doesn't really doesn't have the numbers, but he just like he's a freak, a freakish guy.
01:15:01 And that's kind of, though, to be completely honest, those are the guys that usually do well, you know, in the league just because of that, you know?
01:15:15 Who do you. Well, let's take a look at a look at wideouts really quick, because I'm just curious as to who's on the board there.
01:15:21 Why don't you get a whole bunch of this? This is where it really starts to fall off.
01:15:26 Yeah. I mean, Luke McCaffrey is a guy that I think people like. But again, can you play outside?
01:15:32 I don't know. I personally I I like Casey Washington.
01:15:36 I think he's like a good late round guy, but he didn't really do a ton of Illinois.
01:15:42 But he is like kind of that he is, I think, going to be an outside receiver in the NFL.
01:15:50 I think we wait on we wait and just take means, I think.
01:15:54 But again, now it's like, do you feel like he's because who did we draft already?
01:16:00 Which one was he really? Oh, shoot. Totally spacing out now.
01:16:06 We drafted Baker, Baker, Baker. So then you wonder, like, is he the same type of player as Javon Baker?
01:16:12 You know what I mean? Like, do we want would you prefer Luke McCaffrey instead of any of that above means?
01:16:18 You know what I mean? I don't even think Bob means is on their board.
01:16:21 I don't see it here. That's a complete insanity. Yeah. Yeah.
01:16:27 I I kind of lean to Theo Johnson here personally. Yeah. So let's do it.
01:16:31 Let's do Theo, because I'm still on the board. But yeah, we can get him.
01:16:35 But I think Theo Johnson is is bigger. He's insanely athletic.
01:16:39 And again, he doesn't have the the the numbers. It doesn't really matter, though.
01:16:44 At that position, the numbers don't really mean anything. I don't think.
01:16:49 Yeah, it's tight end is a weird projection. So I think that that's one of the few positions where I actually do feel comfortable relying on athleticism and testing scores.
01:17:00 Yeah. Yeah. Agreed. Yeah. OK.
01:17:07 Oh, DJ thinks it was a waste of a pick. That's OK. It's OK. I people I know.
01:17:12 It's the fifth round. And that's usually a waste of the pick.
01:17:15 And the thing for me is that you're just taking you're taking a risk.
01:17:20 But to me, it's a there's a chance that he'll be successful. And if he's the type of guy that is successful, where he's like the freakish athlete and, you know, he turns out to be a good player.
01:17:32 He may never turn out to be a good player, but he might. So that's that's the bet you're making.
01:17:38 So, all right. Jalen Simpson just went at 179, who I like a lot as kind of that.
01:17:45 Kind of that free that deep free safety, Luke McCaffrey goes 176 and plays with his brother in San Francisco.
01:17:52 That'd be fun. That'd be fun. That's really fun.
01:17:57 So and again, I like Casey Washington last week.
01:18:03 We drafted Jalen Green out of Old Dominion. It's Old Dominion.
01:18:08 Oh, do you? I think it's old Dominion where he led. He led the nation in sacks.
01:18:13 Evenly missed those last four games of the season. So I like him. Fan of him.
01:18:20 I don't know what you want. You want to go. I think we should go defense here. We've done a lot of offensive picks.
01:18:27 And we drafted one tackle, though, so we could theoretically draft another tackle.
01:18:31 I don't love the tackles here. Like Nimaya Pritchett, I think is interesting as a cover guy.
01:18:37 Yeah. Also a bigger guy plays in a couple of different spots.
01:18:42 I would lean toward something like that here. You know, the secondary player, Solomon Bird, was a little bit interesting.
01:18:49 Like the USC defensive guys are all tough because they were coached so poorly.
01:18:54 Defensive end here, I think with some talent who maybe you can get him to do, get him into a better role in the NFL.
01:19:01 I've talked to a lot of MJ Devonshire, Brendan Jackson. You know, we've talked about those names.
01:19:07 But I like Pritchett. I think I met with him. I'm not 100 percent sure.
01:19:12 Let's do it. Why not? Let's do it. Whatever. Yeah. That's a guy that I haven't taken any of my mocks, so I like it.
01:19:18 Yeah. Back on the board at 193, mostly the same guys. Hunter Norzad is on here. I know you like him.
01:19:25 Yeah. Yeah. Center from Penn State. So again, you know, he's mostly just a center.
01:19:30 Oh, Tanner Bortolini. This is the Tanner Bortolini spot. I feel like we kind of got to do it.
01:19:36 I mean, I feel like you're right. I mean, position flexibility out the yin yang.
01:19:40 Like, come on now, dude. You know, talk about a guy that can play four out of five positions on the offensive line.
01:19:45 Like, how could you not want that guy? Yeah. All right. Let's do Bortolini.
01:19:50 193. I like it. That leaves us with one more pick here. And that is pick number 231.
01:20:01 Yeah, this is where we're getting into the dregs of the draft.
01:20:08 Man. Oh, hold on. How about how about a name? Deng, Gua from Howard.
01:20:16 Where is it? What position? He's a tackle. He's a tackle. I just let him go by his name.
01:20:20 He's like the fourth guy in the list right now. All right. He's an absolute monster.
01:20:26 Look at the size of this guy. 362. 6.8. 362. An absolute monster.
01:20:34 He's an older prospect, but like, my goodness, the size of that. Why not?
01:20:39 Why not? All right. We'll wrap it up with that pick. All right. I like it.
01:20:42 Yeah. All righty. I don't know how I feel about this one. Yeah. Let's see what they graded as.
01:20:51 Yeah, they give us a B plus. So the final tally trade back and the Patriots would get the move from three to 12 and they get a third rounder to future firsts.
01:21:03 Is the way we're doing that. Yeah. Olufashanu at 12. Penix at 41 with another trade back with Green Bay.
01:21:11 Javon Baker at 68. Christian Mahogany at 76. Bucky Irving at 88. Cole Bishop at 103.
01:21:17 Theo Johnson at 137. Nehemiah Pritchett at 180. Tanner Bortolini at 193. And Anime Dankwa at 231.
01:21:26 So there you go. So how about that? Top 83% of the draft. How about that?
01:21:31 Dude, who the hell is getting like a C? I guess people could just go and draft stupid things, I suppose.
01:21:36 But Christian Mahogany with the old D plus. Not great. Not great at pick 76.
01:21:42 And I can see it, but I will not accept a D for Tanner Bortolini at 193. I will not accept it.
01:21:49 That doesn't make any sense to me. Yeah. All right. That's our mock. Do we want to look at a couple of fan mocks before we wrap this up?
01:21:57 You know what? I feel like we've gone. We're already at like 120. I would say let's wait on the fan mocks and do them on Thursday.
01:22:05 We'll do them on Thursday. We got a good guest coming on Thursday, which would be nice.
01:22:11 And so, you know, I like that. And so we'll we'll go from that. Look at this. Look at this. Look at people.
01:22:19 People like that one. People like that one. Hold on. Where is a old man mob like the draft?
01:22:28 Do you deal with the pick? Old man, I actually like this one. Like he doesn't like our other ones.
01:22:34 What's up, old man mob? I know. I know. I'm surprised. Only one of our drafts, DJ Daniel says that's pretty good draft.
01:22:43 I like it. Oh, Matt Manino asked about what's the mock email.
01:22:49 So the mock email, if you make a mock draft, Pat's Nation Network at Gmail dot com.
01:22:56 All one word. Pat's Nation Network at Gmail dot com. OK, so that's that is the mark.
01:23:04 If you have a mock draft, submit it to there and then and we'll see it and kind of go from there.
01:23:10 OK, so. So, yeah, so that's that. That was pretty good. That's pretty good.
01:23:16 So I like it. We're almost done. We're two weeks away here from being able to talk to guys who are now on the team.
01:23:23 That's right. Ten days, as you just pointed out, 10 days until the draft.
01:23:29 We're getting there. We're getting there slowly, but surely getting there.
01:23:33 So it's been fun. I mean, this is fun to do. It is ridiculous.
01:23:39 It is kind of silly that we're talking about, you know, these college guys and everything else.
01:23:43 But like but I like the exercise. Like I'll tell you, it's so interesting because you go through that exercise like we did with Austin last year.
01:23:50 And it really changed my last week. I'm sorry. And it really changed my mind about what the Patriots can do.
01:23:55 I looked at it and said, man, if I'm if I draft a guy at three and don't get any extra picks.
01:24:02 Just stick it and pick it at 34, really limit your options, right?
01:24:06 If you don't love I didn't love any of the guys at 34. Now, what's interesting is that.
01:24:12 Who knows is going to happen in the actual draft?
01:24:15 You know, like there might be four or five or six guys or eight guys that go in the first round that were like, wait, that guy went first round.
01:24:22 Are you sure, you know, Xavier Worthy might jump up in the first round.
01:24:26 So so those are the things that like that's interesting to me that like who knows who's going to be there.
01:24:33 And then we kind of and then we see what happens, you know, so.
01:24:37 But this this was interesting because we were able to trade back twice and still draft a quarterback.
01:24:43 And that to me is, you know, that to me is is good.
01:24:47 And again, I don't know what Michael Penix is going to be the guy, but like whatever, dude, you be able to pick up some extra picks, including including some some future picks.
01:24:58 And so I'll take it, you know. Yeah. All right.
01:25:04 I like it. So anyways, thanks, guys, for listening. We appreciate it.
01:25:07 Thank you for coming through. It's always fun to do this.
01:25:11 And and thank you. So but we will talk to you on Thursday night.
01:25:15 We have Mike debate coming on from from locked in Patriots.
01:25:19 So that's going to be fun. Love talking like. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So.
01:25:23 So he's great. So we'll have him on. That'll be a fun show. We'll go through some of those fan marks.
01:25:28 So if you got a few, send them out and send them to us and we'll go from there.
01:25:32 But until Thursday, have a great rest of your week. And when we talk to you, we'll be like a week away.
01:25:39 When we go, we'll be insane. And don't forget, by the way, I'll mention it before we get off.
01:25:45 We are going to be live all night long. The night of the draft Thursday night, the night of the draft will be live all night long.
01:25:54 Now, we will not be live on the Patriots unfiltered channel. OK, we're only going to be live on the PNN channel.
01:26:02 OK, so the Pat's Nation Network YouTube channel, if you're not already subscribed there, go over to that Pat's Nation Network and subscribe to that on YouTube.
01:26:12 We're going to be live all night long. The other CLNS guys are going to be popping in and doing some instant reaction.
01:26:19 They will do a little bit of a of a of a pregame show.
01:26:23 We might have a pregame show and we're going to go from there. That asked about a hat giveaway.
01:26:29 I think we're going to do it again. I think we're going to do it. I think so. I like it.
01:26:34 So in the hats this year, sweet. I put my name in. I put my name in there, too.
01:26:38 So I mean, I want it. But but no, I think I think that that's so anyway.
01:26:45 So we'll be live all night next Thursday night from beginning to end and probably a little bit earlier than the beginning all the way to the end.
01:26:54 So there'll be a blast. And so we have a ton of guests stopping through, a ton of people, patriots, guys and girls.
01:27:01 We have other people out here as well. So so, you know, whoever whomever else is is is out there and wants to come through.
01:27:08 We got a ton of people. So so, yeah. So we have a few extra special guests, too.
01:27:14 They're going to be stopping by as well, which will be fun. So it's going to be very fun.
01:27:18 Yeah. You guys. So so anyways. Well, thank you guys again. We appreciate it.
01:27:23 And we'll we'll talk to you. And I'm not going to put my name in there, although I would.
01:27:27 That'd be pretty funny. Wouldn't it be hilarious if I won the free at he's rigged it?
01:27:33 All the names just said Pat Lane and it's spinning. It's like that looks like so.
01:27:40 But anyways. All right. Thanks, guys. We appreciate it. And we'll we'll talk to you on Thursday night.

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