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MQMP and PML-N Meeting | Mustafa Kamal Reveals Inside Story | Breaking News
MQMP and PML-N Meeting | Mustafa Kamal Reveals Inside Story | Breaking News
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00:00 MQM is another important party,
00:02 whose 17 seats are very important.
00:04 We will find out with whom they go,
00:08 and will also find out who is in power and who is not.
00:10 MQM has already met with Noor League.
00:14 MQM's leader is still in Islamabad.
00:16 Let's talk to him,
00:17 the Chief of MQM,
00:18 Mustafa Kamal, is with us.
00:19 Huzoor, Assalam-o-Alaikum.
00:20 Wa-alaikum-Salaam.
00:24 Thank you very much for your time,
00:26 Mustafa Kamal.
00:27 You are in Islamabad today,
00:28 have you met any of your Jamaat members today?
00:32 No, we did not have any official activity today.
00:38 We came here late.
00:41 We did not have any political meeting today.
00:44 No political meeting today.
00:46 Do you have any meeting scheduled tomorrow,
00:48 with the Noon People's Party or anyone?
00:49 We are in contact all the time,
00:54 we are in talks,
00:57 so we can meet anytime, anywhere.
01:02 I do not have a schedule for tomorrow,
01:05 but since I am in contact with all the parties,
01:09 so it is possible that we can have a formal meeting tomorrow.
01:13 Political or non-political?
01:17 All the meetings are political, Hussain bhai.
01:22 Okay, okay.
01:23 Okay, fine.
01:26 I will not ask more than this.
01:28 You have met Nawaz Sharif,
01:32 what was the crux of that meeting?
01:36 In that meeting,
01:37 I will give a little more detail,
01:38 but I will ask precisely,
01:39 Noon League invited you to join the government,
01:42 and gave you an official invitation,
01:43 that this is the plan,
01:44 this gentleman will be the Prime Minister,
01:45 this gentleman will be the Prime Minister,
01:47 and you come and support us.
01:48 Look, we are in contact with Noon League,
01:54 and we have been a part of the government with them before,
02:01 and we met a few months ago with Noon League,
02:05 so there has been a lot of differences of opinion,
02:10 and a lot of things have happened.
02:12 For instance, we have presented our document,
02:17 our document for the regular termination,
02:20 and in this meeting, the entire team was present,
02:24 Nawaz Sharif, Shabaz Sharif, Mariam Sahiba,
02:26 Ishaq Dar, and the entire team was present,
02:28 all of them were there.
02:29 Right.
02:30 There was no discussion about who will be the Prime Minister,
02:35 or who will have the ministries,
02:38 the total focus was that the people are in a state of turmoil,
02:43 in a state of distress,
02:44 how and what will we do to get them out of this distress,
02:49 everyone is in agreement that we have to deliver,
02:52 if we do anything, we have to deliver,
02:55 and the reason for the lack of deliverance,
02:58 what are the factors,
03:00 and can we go and tell people what we are going to do,
03:04 so there was a discussion on all these things,
03:06 and a discussion on a big canvas,
03:09 from anywhere, any party,
03:11 what will they get, what won't they get, who will be in power,
03:14 this discussion was not a subject,
03:17 this was not the subject of our meeting,
03:19 this meeting was for 1.5 to 2 hours,
03:22 the issues of Pakistan, the issues of the people of Pakistan,
03:25 and what to do, how to do,
03:27 how can we reduce the issues of the people,
03:31 how can we end it,
03:32 there was a discussion on this,
03:33 it hasn't come to this stage yet,
03:34 where, who, what, what will happen.
03:37 Okay, so if I summarize,
03:39 it's okay that it hasn't come to the point that the Governor will remain permanent,
03:41 how many will be in the ministry,
03:42 what will happen, all this hasn't happened, however,
03:44 when you say that we have discussed how to solve the issues of the country,
03:48 it means that,
03:49 obviously, we are solving the issues of the country only after coming into power,
03:51 so it would be right to summarize that,
03:53 on what conditions,
03:54 that was a secondary issue,
03:55 it hasn't been discussed yet,
03:56 but the MQM has decided to join the government,
03:59 would it be right to say this?
04:01 No, look, the MQM is giving its own proposal,
04:03 that you cannot run the country under this current system,
04:07 MQM has a part,
04:08 MQM is talking about its part,
04:10 that you cannot run the country under this current system,
04:12 and MQM has not only said that it cannot run,
04:15 but how it should run,
04:16 MQM has said this 5 months ago,
04:19 and has made it very clear,
04:21 that you have the authority and resources in this country,
04:23 which you have taken from Wafaaq to the sub-districts,
04:25 you don't go to the district beyond the sub-districts,
04:27 and Pakistan has been left in a state of shock,
04:29 all the resources of Pakistan have been left in one place,
04:32 which is the Ministerial Houses,
04:35 there you will have to do decentralization,
04:38 for which there are 3 amendments,
04:39 which we have presented to everyone,
04:41 that like the Prime Minister,
04:43 you write in the department of local government,
04:45 that when you give the NFC award,
04:47 you give the district's share from there,
04:49 and you write that you will not run the country by adding administrators,
04:55 if you don't have an elected local government,
04:57 you cannot run MNS and MPA elections,
05:00 this is a detailed detail,
05:02 which says that the country should be run,
05:05 you will say that we don't have a 2/3 majority,
05:07 we don't have a 2/3 majority,
05:09 ok, we don't have a 2/3 majority today,
05:12 but whoever will run this country,
05:14 this is not about the Karachi amendment,
05:16 this is about the Pakistan amendment,
05:18 we invite all the parties to come,
05:20 to come to this agenda,
05:21 this is the formula to take Pakistan forward,
05:23 whoever will talk on this, support this,
05:26 we are ready to support them unconditionally,
05:31 so this is exactly what we talked about,
05:33 that you cannot run Pakistan with a ministry,
05:35 that you cannot run Pakistan with a ministry,
05:37 you see that nothing is being done right in Pakistan,
05:42 but sir, whether you are going to the government or not,
05:44 this remains to be decided,
05:46 is it right to say this?
05:48 the MQO has not decided yet,
05:49 well of course, exactly this remains to be decided,
05:52 whether we are going to the government or not,
05:54 this discussion, there are many stages to come,
05:57 this is not a discussion,
05:59 the political parties are talking to each other,
06:01 but this is not a discussion,
06:02 so today, Mr. Mustafa, all the options are open to the MQO,
06:05 that is, sitting in opposition,
06:06 that is, going to the government with Noon,
06:08 that is, going to the government with the People's Party,
06:10 or going to the government with PTI,
06:12 all these options are open.
06:14 Well, it is a political party,
06:16 all the options are open to us,
06:18 and there is no doubt about it,
06:21 all the options are open to the MQO,
06:23 the MQO is a very important party,
06:25 no party can take forward the issues of today's Pakistan,
06:31 cannot take forward,
06:32 Pakistan needs consensus on some things,
06:37 and without that consensus,
06:39 this country cannot move forward,
06:41 you cannot take people out of this chaos.