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.Relief For Punjab In Electricity Bills | Heavy Clash Between PPP & PML-N | Waseem Badami's Analysis
.Punjab Govt Gives Big Relief - PPP And PMLN Leaders' Reaction
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.Relief For Punjab In Electricity Bills | Heavy Clash Between PPP & PML-N | Waseem Badami's Analysis
.Punjab Govt Gives Big Relief - PPP And PMLN Leaders' Reaction
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00:00In the name of God, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful, Peace be upon you.
00:05It is a good thing that the national politics,
00:09instead of saying, you are like this, he is like that, I am like this, and he is like that,
00:13is revolving around a public issue, for a few hours only, for a few days only,
00:18and that is the issue of electricity, because the common man says, that is fine,
00:21this is a matter, it will be very common, whether or not an extension has been made,
00:25whether or not a court-martial has been held, whether or not a person will go to the military court,
00:29but brother, these bills on electricity, which are increasing with the salary,
00:33which are increasing with the rent of houses, what will happen of that?
00:36So anyway, this is a good thing, that in the national politics,
00:39at least the statement is revolving around the bills on electricity,
00:41the allegation is secondary, the bill on electricity is primary.
00:44Anyway, this is a very interesting matter, that after the establishment of this government,
00:48it can be said that for the first time, the People's Party and Noon League,
00:51which are a part of this government, the People's Party is not technical, but it is obvious,
00:55they have come face to face on an issue, and both have made such statements,
01:00in which on one side, the Prime Minister of a province, who is the senior leader of the Noon League,
01:04on the other side, the Prime Minister of a province, who is the senior leader of the People's Party,
01:07on one side, the head of a Jamaat, who is also the Prime Minister of Pakistan,
01:10on one side, the head of another Jamaat, who is Bilawal Bhutto,
01:13they have also come face to face.
01:14This matter starts when the news comes, that Mian Muhammad Nawaz Sharif Sahib has started a press conference,
01:19Faiz Amin Sahib's matter was new, he thought that maybe he was going to say something,
01:23he thought that whatever he says, that there are many secrets buried in my heart,
01:26it will come one day, I will open it, so maybe this is that day.
01:29It was found that he also mentioned those things, but the purpose of that press conference was that,
01:34the Sahabzadi, i.e. Mian Nawaz Sharif Sahib, who is the Prime Minister of Punjab,
01:39he should be praised and honoured, and announce what his government has announced.
01:44That announcement was this,
01:47The Punjab government has decided, in the months of August and September,
01:51to reduce the electricity bill by Rs. 14 per unit, for people who consume 0 to 500 units.
01:58They are coming up with a scheme for solar panels,
02:03so that the electricity bill in the future will be much less than this.
02:06Well done, Mariam.
02:11It seems that the announcement is very good,
02:13but Mian Mohammad Nawaz Sharif Sahib, who is the leader of national power,
02:17does this press conference, independently of Mariam Nawaz Sharif Sahib,
02:21is it not a better thing?
02:23But we will talk about this later.
02:25But after that, the series of statements began,
02:28statements from here, statements from there,
02:30someone said that he is concerned about his province,
02:32someone said that there is relief only for the people of Punjab,
02:35there is no relief for any other province, someone said something.
02:38But this matter became even more high profile at that time,
02:40when the chief executive of the province of Sindh, Mr. Murad Ali Shah,
02:44while addressing in a speech, without taking the name of Mariam Nawaz Sharif Sahiba,
02:47and without mentioning this announcement,
02:49said that I am surprised that people have so much time,
02:51that they come on TV, and make announcements of stupidity.
02:54It was clear that the signal is towards Mariam Nawaz Sharif Sahiba.
02:57CM Sindh, say this.
03:00I say that people say that why don't you tell?
03:03I say that if I come on TV and keep talking,
03:08then when will I work?
03:10That is why I don't appear on television so much,
03:12though the chairman is also upset with me,
03:14my information minister is also not happy with me.
03:18But I will tell you seriously,
03:20I don't know how people get time,
03:23to come on television all day.
03:26Announcements keep happening, strange and poor,
03:28because of which we get into trouble,
03:30that how to answer the announcements of stupidity.
03:32But anyway, I won't go into politics.
03:34Strange and poor announcements,
03:36announcements of stupidity.
03:38The question arises that anyway,
03:40if a province has taken out one amount from its budget,
03:44and has given it to another province,
03:46then it is the authority of the province.
03:48If you don't like it, then don't follow it.
03:50But this announcement,
03:52should a prime minister of a province,
03:54a chief minister of another province,
03:56tell the chief minister of another province,
03:58that you have made a decision of stupidity.
04:00Anyway, Mariam Nawaz Sharif Sahiba,
04:02without taking her name,
04:04gave a strong answer.
04:06She also talked about corruption.
04:08This must be the first time,
04:10after the coming of this government,
04:12that PML Noon's senior leadership,
04:14without taking the name of the People's Party,
04:16even mentioned corruption.
04:18Mariam Bibi said this.
04:20People are getting relief bills for two months.
04:22Yesterday I was watching,
04:24someone used the word stupidity.
04:26So I laughed, putting money in the pocket of corruption,
04:28spending money on the protocol,
04:30on the planes, on the helicopters,
04:32on the car convoys,
04:34on the salaries, on the houses.
04:36This is not stupidity.
04:38Giving relief to the people is stupidity.
04:40I want people all over Pakistan,
04:42to get relief,
04:44because I am Punjabi later,
04:46Pakistani first.
04:48Those who say that only in Punjab,
04:50we have got relief.
04:52Yes, we have got relief in Punjab,
04:54but no one gave me relief in Punjab,
04:56as a gift.
04:58So there was a harsh word from there,
05:00that corruption money is not stupidity.
05:02Spending on the protocol is not stupidity.
05:04Neither did they take the name, nor did they give the name.
05:06But obviously everyone knew who was talking about whom.
05:08When this happened, then in the morning,
05:10Sindh put its spokesperson in the field.
05:12And Sharjeel Rehman Memon Sahib came,
05:14and he said that the answer can be more harsh than this,
05:16but we will not give.
05:18But the answer he gave was this.
05:30Murad Ali Shah said,
05:54There is a saying in English,
05:56throwing good money after bad.
05:58It means that by spoiling the work,
06:00to fix it,
06:02throw more money in the water.
06:04If someone wants in the morning,
06:06to give relief for two months,
06:08and after that,
06:10the bill doubles in the third month.
06:12When the year started,
06:14we were told that we do not have money.
06:16We said that we need it for development.
06:18I am standing here right now on the MNV train.
06:20Who has to make the MNV train?
06:22Wafaaq.
06:24Wafaaq has made it?
06:26Wafaaq is not spending money for the people of Sindh.
06:28Where did this money come from?
06:30But here also a question arises,
06:32that Wafaaq has not spent money on Sindh,
06:34but the money that Wafaaq has given to the people of Punjab,
06:38Wafaaq has not spent it on Punjab.
06:40It has been spent on Punjab by the budget of Punjab.
06:44So is this a relevant example or not?
06:46We will ask.
06:48And then the Prime Minister of Pakistan,
06:50Shahbaz Sharif Sahib,
06:52also contributed to this decision.
06:54The Punjab government,
06:56with its own means,
06:58from 200 units
07:00to 500 units,
07:02for two months,
07:04gave a very big relief
07:06to the people of Punjab.
07:08And in this, Wafaaq did not contribute anything.
07:12The rest of the government should also
07:14give this money with great interest.
07:16We will be very happy.
07:18But doing politics on this,
07:20I think we should
07:22abstain from it.
07:52Mr. Nasir Shah, if I may ask you,
07:54how is this a foolish announcement?
07:56That is,
07:58the Prime Minister of one province
08:00has taken money from one pot
08:02and put it in the other.
08:04Whether you like it or not.
08:06But is it even necessary to comment on this?
08:08Isn't it so that the Prime Minister of Sindh
08:10says that we will build a bridge in such and such place?
08:12And the Prime Minister of Punjab
08:14says that this is a foolish announcement.
08:16So you will say that it is our will,
08:18it is our money, we are elected representatives.
08:20Why are you commenting on this?
08:24In the name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful.
08:26Allahumma salli ala Muhammad
08:28wa ala Muhammad.
08:30Look,
08:32it is a fact that
08:34if a province
08:36is somehow
08:38giving relief
08:40to its people,
08:42then obviously
08:44there should be
08:46no objection
08:48to it.
08:50I will definitely say
08:52that what the CM
08:54said,
08:56there were some
08:58harsh words,
09:00but he wanted
09:02to say something else.
09:04Is this your opinion, Mr. Nasir?
09:06Or did you talk to Mr. Murad
09:08and he also has an opinion
09:10that what I did not want to say has been communicated?
09:14Look,
09:16he is the CM,
09:18he is my boss,
09:20and I know his personality,
09:22that he never talks like this.
09:24But what was the issue?
09:26First of all,
09:28I will say that
09:30these were some harsh words.
09:32If it was a foolish thing,
09:34or whatever was said,
09:36I say that
09:38such words should not have been used.
09:40But in his reaction,
09:42our extremely
09:44respected
09:46Mariam Sahiba,
09:48what can be said
09:50for her,
09:52but even that was not appropriate.
09:54And a lot can be said
09:56on that,
09:58as my respected friend
10:00Sharjeel Memon said,
10:02that harsh words can be said,
10:04but we do not need
10:06to start such statements.
10:08What was the issue?
10:10The issue is that
10:12the current electricity tariffs
10:14and the people who are suffering,
10:16we had planned,
10:18and of course,
10:20our leadership said,
10:22President Asim Ali Zardari,
10:24Chairman Bilawar Bhutto Zardari,
10:26and the Prime Minister
10:28is also very serious
10:30on this issue.
10:32I can hear you.
10:34You are disconnected,
10:36but you can hear me.
10:38The request was that
10:40everyone was on this.
10:42We had made a plan,
10:44which Murad Ali Shah
10:46himself worked very hard on,
10:48because he has been a minister
10:50of energy for a long time,
10:52and he has a lot of know-how.
10:54So we made a plan together,
10:56under which
10:58such a solution came out
11:00that the permanent tariffs
11:02should be reduced.
11:04For example,
11:06Punjab has now
11:08a fund of
11:1045 billion.
11:12Our share
11:14in this sharing
11:16is 10 billion,
11:188 billion
11:20on KP,
11:22and 2 billion
11:24on Balochistan.
11:26So this is about
11:2865-67,
11:30if all four provinces
11:32together,
11:34in IPPs,
11:36we put this money
11:38in it.
11:40In our work,
11:42more than 70,
11:4472 or 74 billion,
11:46if we pay there,
11:48then permanent,
11:50everyone's bills
11:52will be 5 rupees less.
11:544 rupees 80 paisa,
11:56and about 5 rupees
11:58this figure was coming,
12:00which was permanent.
12:02Instead of this,
12:04Punjab's money,
12:06Sindh's money,
12:08everyone's money,
12:10this amount should be made,
12:12so that all Pakistan's bills,
12:14this was not going on.
12:16We started working on this,
12:18it came from our leadership.
12:20This assessment was that
12:22all the consumers,
12:24of all four provinces,
12:26and all the units they use,
12:28this was a working on that.
12:30But the 75 and 77,
12:32I have a figure,
12:34that we had to pay a billion.
12:36Even Wafaaq knows this.
12:38The issue is that
12:40Wafaaq himself is very serious.
12:42There is no doubt about this.
12:44Whether it is Prime Minister,
12:46or other allies of the government,
12:48or supporters of the government,
12:50they all want,
12:52that the bills should be less.
12:54How many units were being used?
12:56Yes,
12:58500 units.
13:00From 0 to 500.
13:02The whole of Pakistan will use
13:04from 0 to 500,
13:06so 500 will be less per unit.
13:08Yes, it will be less.
13:10Secondly, even now,
13:12Wafaaq has already,
13:14let me just clarify one thing,
13:1650 billion has already been given,
13:18from 0 to 200,
13:20to the consumers,
13:22to the protected consumers,
13:24to reduce their bills,
13:26which are already present.
13:28If the bills were given,
13:30then people would get it less.
13:32Another big issue,
13:34as you know,
13:36is the IMF.
13:38We have to think about all these things,
13:40so that we can move towards improvement.
13:42But Mr. Nasir,
13:44this was your proposal.
13:46If all this was going on,
13:48then the CM of Punjab,
13:50or the Punjab government,
13:52was not restricted,
13:54because no such decision had been made.
13:56Mr. Waseem,
13:58I started this discussion
14:00because there were harsh words
14:02that we should not have used.
14:04Mr. Waseem,
14:06I started this discussion
14:08because there were harsh words
14:10that we should not have used.
14:12Mr. Waseem,
14:14I started this discussion
14:16because there were harsh words
14:18that we should not have used.
14:20Mr. Afnaan,
14:22let me ask you a few questions.
14:24First of all,
14:26isn't it surprising to people
14:28that such a harsh statement
14:30has been made,
14:32which should not have been made?
14:34So, Ms. Maryam told us
14:36that she considers the People's Party corrupt,
14:38and she thinks that the people's money
14:40is spent on entertainment and protocol.
14:42So, this means that
14:44you have taken the support of corrupt people
14:46to run your government.
14:50In the name of God, the most merciful, the most merciful.
14:52Look, the thing that Mr. Nasir has said
14:54about this matter,
14:56there is no room for further discussion
14:58about it.
15:00We are coalition partners.
15:02So, you are saying that
15:04it would have been better
15:06if Ms. Maryam had not said
15:08such harsh words.
15:10I am saying that
15:12what Mr. Nasir has said
15:14is enough.
15:16There is no need
15:18to dwell on it anymore.
15:20I will definitely say that
15:22the two-month proposal
15:24that is being discussed
15:26is because
15:28if winters come after two months,
15:30then electricity consumption
15:32will decrease.
15:34So, that is why it has been planned
15:36in this way.
15:38And as far as she has discussed,
15:40if all the provinces
15:42and alliances
15:44give subsidies,
15:46then that is a good thing.
15:48It can be reviewed,
15:50but then there is the IMF program
15:52and other matters as well.
15:54Mr. Nasir, you are smiling
15:56and Mr. Nawaz Sharif
15:58himself considered it appropriate
16:00to sit in this press conference.
16:02There is no violation in this.
16:04Of course, there is no legal violation.
16:06But what is the appropriate gesture?
16:08Mr. Nawaz Sharif is a national leader.
16:10This was a provincial decision.
16:12I think it is a good decision.
16:14But the CM of Punjab,
16:16the Chief Executive of Punjab,
16:18makes decisions.
16:20There are no good optics.
16:22Instead, Mr. Nawaz Sharif
16:24Our government
16:26is in Punjab.
16:28We are in a coalition
16:30with Wifaq.
16:32We are also in a coalition
16:34with Balochistan.
16:36The primary responsibility
16:38is of Punjab
16:40because the mandate
16:42is of Punjab.
16:44The announcement
16:46made by Mr. Nawaz Sharif
16:48was for Wifaq.
16:50Mr. Nawaz Sharif
16:52will provide relief
16:54to all the people of Pakistan.
16:56We believe that
16:58there should be
17:00progress in the whole of Pakistan.
17:02The electricity bill
17:04should come down in the whole of Pakistan.
17:06We will continue our work for that.
17:08Before I go to Mr. Zain,
17:10I have an innocent question.
17:12Mr. Ghani said that
17:14there is a shortage
17:16of Rs. 14 per unit.
17:18How much will a person save?
17:20In his opinion,
17:22a shortage of Rs. 14 per unit
17:24is not an impactful thing.
17:26But you are saying that
17:28we had such a good plan.
17:30Rs. 5 per unit is less.
17:32If Rs. 14 per unit is not enough,
17:34what will happen in Rs. 5?
17:36Rs. 14 is being reduced
17:38for two months.
17:40Rs. 5 is being reduced for 12 months.
17:42Gradually,
17:44there will be a shortage.
17:46We are making our plan.
17:48Earlier,
17:50I briefed you
17:52that the solar parks
17:54that we are planning to build
17:56in the areas of K-Electric,
17:58HESCO and SEPCO
18:00jurisdictions,
18:02solar parks or hybrid parks
18:04in which both are present,
18:06Vendor,
18:08the generation that is there,
18:10if we are giving it to K-Electric,
18:12our request will be
18:14that the bill of
18:16all the consumers of K-Electric
18:18should be made free.
18:20Similarly, the bills of HESCO
18:22and SEPCO.
18:24We have calculated
18:26that the total number of
18:28consumers that we are using,
18:30all of them,
18:32including industrial
18:34and others,
18:36are not more than 3000.
18:38They are around
18:402,000 to 3,000.
18:42Most of the consumers are in Karachi.
18:44There are very few in HESCO and SEPCO.
18:46We have made a plan
18:48to give relief to our people.
18:50We are giving it to the houses
18:52under the solarization.
18:54We are starting the panels
18:56at the end of August or
18:58in the first week of September.
19:00Mr. Zain Qureshi,
19:02politics in its place,
19:04I think you would agree
19:06that the bills of electricity
19:08and house rents have killed
19:10the common man.
19:12It is a good thing
19:14that this issue has come under
19:16discussion.
19:18There is a disagreement
19:20whether we are doing solarization
19:22or not.
19:24Do you think that
19:26this will reduce the burden
19:28of the common man?
19:30In the name of God,
19:32I would like to thank you
19:34for inviting me to the program.
19:36Although this is an internal matter,
19:38I would like to thank you
19:40It is a matter of the people.
19:42The bills of electricity
19:44are being reduced by the common man.
19:46I have done another program
19:48with Mr. Nasir Shah.
19:50He gave a very good speech.
19:52He said off the bat
19:54that it was difficult
19:56to use the word foolishness.
19:58I think that was done there.
20:00Whether it was foolishness or not,
20:02it was an inexperienced decision
20:04by Mrs. Maryam.
20:06I will tell you the reason for that.
20:08The disagreement between
20:10Murad Ali Shah and Mrs. Maryam
20:12did not harm them.
20:14The truth is that
20:16the cracks in this alliance
20:18have begun to be seen.
20:20Now,
20:22the question you asked
20:24should be asked
20:26off the bat.
20:28If the Punjab government
20:30wants to give relief
20:32to its people,
20:34we should not criticize it.
20:36The problem is
20:38that the bills of electricity
20:40have been reduced
20:42by the common man.
20:44Today,
20:46the bills of electricity
20:48have become more than
20:50the rent of people's houses.
20:52This has become a big issue
20:54for the people of Pakistan.
20:56It is too little,
20:58too late.
21:00The people who are saying
21:02that we will give them
21:04relief to buy
21:06electricity,
21:08this is not a solution.
21:10This is a stop-gap
21:12arrangement.
21:14I do not want to talk about
21:16this.
21:18I want to talk about
21:20the proposal of the
21:22people's party.
21:24The government
21:26has already
21:28announced
21:30Rs. 50 billion
21:32and Rs. 45 billion.
21:34We will give Rs. 14 per unit
21:36to the people of 500 units.
21:38If we take the numbers of
21:40Nasir Shah,
21:42if we get Rs. 77 billion,
21:44and across the board,
21:46in the whole of Pakistan,
21:48we give Rs. 5 per unit,
21:50then this decision would be
21:52politically correct.
21:54Today, MQM is saying
21:56that there is a smell of
21:58provincialism.
22:00Murad Ali Shah is
22:02promoting Punjab.
22:04This is not a criticism.
22:06Is it permissible to criticize
22:08MQM and the people's party?
22:10In your opinion?
22:12I told you earlier
22:14that if Maryam Bibi
22:16wants to give relief to the people
22:18of her province,
22:20it is not a criticism.
22:22Again, I am a third party.
22:24I have nothing to do with this.
22:26These are coalition partners
22:28who are tied to a very
22:30delicate thread.
22:32I don't think they
22:34benefited much by doing this.
22:36You said it is a tool,
22:38but if I ask you
22:40that it is better than nothing,
22:42would you agree?
22:46If you say it is better than nothing,
22:48but it can be better than this.
22:50And if we take the proposal
22:52of Nasir Shah,
22:54then the impression that has been created
22:56is that giving preferential treatment
22:58to Punjab is also over.
23:00I am talking as a non-politician.
23:02I am not talking from the perspective
23:04of justice.
23:06I am talking as a third party.
23:08This is also not a good impression
23:10that a province gets preferential treatment
23:12from another province.
23:14The issue of electricity bill
23:16has become a national issue.
23:18This is not an impression
23:20that there is no train in Karachi
23:22and it is running in Punjab.
23:24This is not an impression
23:26that there is no train in Karachi
23:28and it is running in Punjab.
23:30This is not an impression
23:32that there is no train in Karachi
23:34and it is running in Punjab.
23:36This is not an impression
23:38that there is no train in Karachi
23:40and it is running in Punjab.
23:42This is not an impression
23:44that there is no train in Karachi
23:46and it is running in Punjab.
23:48This is not an impression
23:50that there is no train in Karachi
23:52and it is running in Punjab.
23:54This is not an impression
23:56that there is no train in Karachi
23:58and it is running in Punjab.
24:00This is not an impression
24:02that there is no train in Karachi
24:04and it is running in Punjab.
24:06This is not an impression
24:08that there is no train in Karachi
24:10and it is running in Punjab.
24:12This is not an impression
24:14that there is no train in Karachi
24:16and it is running in Punjab.
24:18This is not an impression
24:20that there is no train in Karachi
24:22and it is running in Punjab.
24:24This is not an impression
24:26that there is no train in Karachi
24:28and it is running in Punjab.
24:30This is not an impression
24:32that there is no train in Karachi
24:34and it is running in Punjab.
24:36This is not an impression
24:38that there is no train in Karachi
24:40and it is running in Punjab.
24:42This is not an impression
24:44that there is no train in Karachi
24:46and it is running in Punjab.
24:48This is not an impression
24:50that there is no train in Karachi
24:52and it is running in Punjab.
24:54This is not an impression
24:56that there is no train in Karachi
24:58and it is running in Punjab.
25:00This is not an impression
25:02that there is no train in Karachi
25:04and it is running in Punjab.
25:06This is not an impression
25:08that there is no train in Karachi
25:10and it is running in Punjab.
25:12This is not an impression
25:14that there is no train in Karachi
25:16and it is running in Punjab.
25:18This is not an impression
25:20that there is no train in Karachi
25:22and it is running in Punjab.
25:24This is not an impression
25:26that there is no train in Karachi
25:28and it is running in Punjab.
25:30This is not an impression
25:32that there is no train in Karachi
25:34and it is running in Punjab.
25:36This is not an impression
25:38that there is no train in Karachi
25:40and it is running in Punjab.
25:42This is not an impression
25:44that there is no train in Karachi
25:46and it is running in Punjab.
25:48This is not an impression
25:50that there is no train in Karachi
25:52and it is running in Punjab.
25:54This is not an impression
25:56that there is no train in Karachi
25:58and it is running in Punjab.
26:00This is not an impression
26:02that there is no train in Karachi
26:04and it is running in Punjab.
26:06This is not an impression
26:08that there is no train in Karachi
26:10and it is running in Punjab.
26:12This is not an impression
26:14that there is no train in Karachi
26:16and it is running in Punjab.
26:18This is not an impression
26:20that there is no train in Karachi
26:22and it is running in Punjab.
26:24This is not an impression
26:26that there is no train in Karachi
26:28and it is running in Punjab.
26:30This is not an impression
26:32that there is no train in Karachi
26:34and it is running in Punjab.
26:36This is not an impression
26:38that there is no train in Karachi
26:40and it is running in Punjab.
27:10This is not an impression
27:12that there is no train in Karachi
27:14and it is running in Punjab.
27:16This is not an impression
27:18that there is no train in Karachi
27:20and it is running in Punjab.
27:22This is not an impression
27:24that there is no train in Karachi
27:26and it is running in Punjab.
27:28This is not an impression
27:30that there is no train in Karachi
27:32and it is running in Punjab.
27:34This is not an impression
27:36that there is no train in Karachi
27:38and it is running in Punjab.
28:08Wafaaq should still reduce the tax.
28:10Wafaaq should also take responsibility.
28:12Wafaaq should also take responsibility.
28:14If there is a good proposal...
28:16If there is a good proposal...
28:18There is a mistake of one Muslim League.
28:20Before bringing this proposal,
28:22they should have talked to their coalition partners.
28:24Before bringing this proposal,
28:26they should have talked to their coalition partners.
28:28I think it would have been better
28:30if they had talked to Mr. Gandapur
28:32or the KP leadership
28:34or the KP leadership
28:36Mr. Samir Tahir, thank you very much.
28:38Mr. Samir Tahir, thank you very much.
28:40Mr. Afnan, please comment.
28:42It is not right that
28:44you are not bound on this.
28:46But if you could share
28:48at least with the PPPP.
28:50Mr. Afnan.
28:58This is a matter
29:00that was discussed
29:02at the level of Wafaq
29:04This has been discussed in the Wafaa Cabinet as well as in the 50 crore subsidy.
29:09But the working of the Punjab Government is provincial specific.
29:14The Sindh Government has its own planning.
29:17The Wafaa Government has its own. Balochistan Government has its own.
29:20And it is not too late.
29:24If someone thinks that this is a good step and wants to follow it, then it is not too late.
29:29I have an estimate that the Sindh Government will need 20 to 22 crore rupees.
29:35If they want to give it for two months.
29:38If they think that they can give it.
29:41Mr. Nasir, this is the last question.
29:44Mr. Zain Qureshi has repeatedly said,
29:48with a smile on his face, that look at this unity, which is already very delicate.
29:53Can you tell us that you are standing together
29:56with the Muslim League.
29:59And this is just a statement.
30:02You are standing with the Muslim League.
30:05You are standing together.
30:08Look, Mr. Zain Qureshi is my most respected friend.
30:13And similarly, my brother.
30:16The issue is that the Pakistan People's Party
30:19is supporting the Muslim League for the betterment of the democracy.
30:23When the elections were held, we had a tough competition with both.
30:28With the PTI and with the Noon League.
30:31We had a tougher competition in Sindh.
30:34Because the PTI did not have many candidates.
30:37They had made obedience here with MQM, JUIF, GDA.
30:40I don't know what else.
30:43But we had already offered to Azad Araqeen.
30:46But that is obvious, whatever he had.
30:49We contacted the Noon League to save the parliament.
30:52So we supported them.
30:55So that this does not happen that we were the parliament.
30:58And if you go towards the elections,
31:01then the elections do not happen in 6 months, 3 months or 9 years.
31:04Who knows.
31:07So the way you are standing, you are standing with the Noon League.
31:10There are no such differences that we destabilize the government.
31:15Or create such a situation.
31:18But we want to give our people,
31:21the poor people who cannot afford,
31:24100 units, 200, 300 units for free.
31:27That is why we are going towards the solar park.
31:30But obviously it takes time.
31:33So we are giving solar panels to the poorest of the poor.
31:36But we are talking about how to give relief to all of us.
31:39Thank you very much.
31:43Thank you Mr. Nasir.
31:46Mr. Afnan and Mr. Zain.
31:49PTI has to hold a meeting on 22nd.
31:52Will it be held in Islamabad or not?
31:55Mr. Maulana has said that we will not support PTI in this way.
31:58Let's talk about these issues.
32:01Let the Noon League hold the meeting or not.
32:04Let's talk about all these issues after the break.
32:08Welcome back.
32:11Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf has held the first meeting in Islamabad after 9th May.
32:17It was held in Swabi.
32:20But now it is held in Islamabad on 22nd.
32:23Mr. Afnan, you are also a member of the democratic party.
32:28You were in the opposition till yesterday.
32:31You fought for your rights.
32:34Will PTI face any obstacles?
32:37They can come from KPK or Islamabad.
32:40They can hold the meeting on 22nd.
32:43Will the government face any obstacles?
32:46PTI's case is different from other parties.
32:51Because they are facing serious allegations on 9th May.
32:56General Faiz's case is also being investigated.
33:03It was a conspiracy.
33:06They tried to commit a coup in the army.
33:11Their case will be reviewed.
33:16If they had been trusted,
33:21then they should have been released immediately.
33:26Mr. Zain, you don't understand Punjabi.
33:33Mr. Badami, there are two things.
33:36First, the allegations are serious.
33:39They haven't proved anything yet.
33:41Secondly, my brother has given permission to hold the meeting on 22nd.
33:51As we speak, you have given permission on paper.
33:57I didn't say that they won't be given permission.
34:00I said that they should be reviewed.
34:04Please complete, Mr. Zainab.
34:06So, their intentions are getting ruined.
34:10I said that we will review.
34:13If there is an intelligence report,
34:17I think they will do something.
34:20You understand.
34:22Mr. Waseem, they talked about history.
34:27They said that 9th May is a serious allegation.
34:31They should prove it first.
34:33It's been a year.
34:34No one has been able to prove it.
34:35No court of law has been able to prove it.
34:36But when we talk about history,
34:39the history of Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaaf
34:42is the biggest demonstration,
34:45protest and public agitation in the history of this country.
34:48It has been peaceful.
34:49The Swabi demonstration that you saw
34:51is a proof that Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaaf
34:54believes in peaceful protest.
34:56We haven't held a demonstration in Punjab
34:59because we were instructed by Bani Chairman Imran Khan
35:03that until you get permission from the court or the government,
35:10you shouldn't protest in Punjab.
35:139th May has been imposed on us.
35:15It's not a big deal that something else is imposed on us.
35:18We are still going to hold a demonstration on 22nd May
35:21with the hope that we will get permission from the court.
35:28Today, when Umar Ayub went to meet the Chief Commissioner,
35:32he assured him that the government will cooperate.
35:36As a citizen of Pakistan,
35:39as a democratic and democratic person,
35:44I appeal to the government
35:46to give permission to review what the Senator just said.
35:52I think it will be a non-political step.
35:54This is the law of Pakistan and it gives permission to every Jamaat.
35:58If Jamaat-e-Islami can do it,
36:00if JUAF can do it,
36:01if other Jamaats can do it,
36:03then Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaaf should have full permission
36:06to carry out its democratic process.
36:09And God willing, it will be peaceful
36:11and it will be a historic demonstration of Pakistan.
36:13It will be peaceful and it will be a historic demonstration of Pakistan.
36:15Mr. Afzal, you said that you will review it.
36:17When you gave permission,
36:18you said that it is the past of 9th May.
36:22When you gave permission,
36:23you gave it without looking at the past.
36:25And now you want to review it.
36:28I have already told you that
36:30the intelligence reports will come
36:33and the matter will be reviewed according to that.
36:36If everything is fine,
36:38and we feel that there is no problem,
36:40If there is no problem,
36:41it means that you feel that
36:42they will not spread the news.
36:43Then?
36:45If there is no spread,
36:46if there are no other issues,
36:47then of course,
36:48keeping those things in view,
36:49you see,
36:50the kind of conspiracy that is coming forward,
36:52the kind of matters that were being run,
36:55they have just started to open up,
36:57the details of it will come in front of the public.
36:58Brother, the Jalsa is the day after tomorrow,
36:59at least decide for me.
37:00When will they come?
37:01Till when will they tell?
37:02If Zain Bhai has to arrange for the transport,
37:03then when will they come?
37:04Civil administration will tell.
37:05I am telling you that
37:06civil administration will tell.
37:08And civil administration,
37:09if there is no issue of Isra,
37:10then they will get permission.
37:11Yes, Zain Sahib,
37:12then I have to go to
37:13Kamran Mursa Sahib,
37:14you tell me what to do.
37:15Waseem Sahib,
37:16Waseem Bhai,
37:17with your permission,
37:18I can give my brother
37:19and his government
37:20a collective advice.
37:21They have to decide
37:22that by all means,
37:23give permission,
37:24let the Jalsa take place,
37:25it will be peaceful,
37:26it will be a good Jalsa,
37:27and those of you who
37:28become claimants,
37:29the claim of being democratic
37:30after the form of Govt. 47
37:31is a little weak,
37:32but those who claim
37:33to be democratic,
37:34it is a little weak,
37:35but those who claim
37:36to be democratic,
37:37it will increase
37:38your democratic beauty,
37:39it will not decrease it.
37:40Jalsa should take place.
37:41But the question is,
37:42I will add one thing,
37:43I will add one thing,
37:44I will add one thing,
37:45that see,
37:46see,
37:47the threats that
37:48Ali Amin Ghandapur
37:49put in the Jalsa,
37:50you keep that in mind
37:51that we will attack
37:52Adyala,
37:53we will remove
37:54him from Adyala jail,
37:55I mean,
37:56we will give such
37:57threats that
37:58you are also giving
37:59threats,
38:00you are also instigating
38:01the public,
38:02then you are saying
38:03that we will also
38:04remain peaceful,
38:06therefore the world
38:07is not going to Adyala.
38:08If you talk about
38:09Joshi Khidabad,
38:10then there are
38:11big things happening
38:12in Joshi Khidabad,
38:13the army chief
38:14will also be threatened
38:15in Gujranwala Jalsa.
38:16You are not going
38:17to Adyala,
38:18the Jalsa is
38:19happening in Tarnwal.
38:20Okay,
38:21Ali Amin
38:22said it
38:23in Joshi Khidabad,
38:24okay,
38:25okay,
38:26but Mr.
38:27Zain,
38:28the matter is
38:29this,
38:30you were saying
38:31that the
38:32Peoples Party
38:33and Noon
38:34I don't know if he should be called your leader or not.
38:37He was saying that the success of PTI is dependent on whether Maulana can take him on board or not.
38:43Let's see Maulana's statement today and then I will give Kamala Mushta Sahab some time.
38:48Maulana Bhadur Rahman Sahab has said that the Grand Alliance is a matter of constitutional politics.
38:52Let's see what he said.
39:04We have decided to fight on our own terms.
39:08The experiences we have had in the past are not good examples.
39:12We don't want to embarrass anyone anymore.
39:16We are ready to meet with other opposition groups and fight for a common opposition.
39:20It can be within the parliament, it can be issue to issue.
39:23We have no objection to that.
39:28So Kamala Mushta Sahab, Assalamu Alaikum Sir.
39:31Walaikum Assalam.
39:34Sir, thank you very much for coming.
39:35Kamala Sahab, let's put it in simple terms.
39:37Despite the fact that Jamiat-e-Ulema-e-Islam is with PTI issue to issue,
39:41because you are also an opposition party, PTI is also an opposition party and there are others,
39:44you are with them in different issues,
39:46but you are not going to do anything like an alliance whose name is PDM or XYZ,
39:50in which you are also there, they are also there, they should hold similar gatherings.
39:55Am I understanding this right?
39:58Look, this is also a premature matter.
40:01Now, in this week, this is going on,
40:04maybe there is a meeting with our PTI.
40:08Now, I don't know where that will end.
40:13This is a debate and I think that after the parliamentary session,
40:17this will be the first meeting.
40:19So, let's see how it will go ahead.
40:22But our previous experience is valid.
40:25We have gone with different parties.
40:28I don't take names. Everyone knows.
40:31But the result was not good.
40:33Whatever hard work we did, the result of that hard work was in someone else.
40:39The benefit of that was given to someone else.
40:41And we are going to go alone like this.
40:45On a lighter side,
40:49you are with Afnaan's party,
40:51based on your bad experience,
40:53you are not ready to ally with Zain Qureshi's party.
40:55This will be your first time with them, right?
40:57Yes.
40:59We have a past with this and it is a very bitter past.
41:02Now, we have to take that bitter past to the extent that
41:05I don't know if they can walk together or not,
41:08so that there is no more bitterness.
41:10Whether we are ashamed or they are ashamed,
41:12then there is less bitterness in our hearts.
41:15We sit together, have tea together, eat together,
41:19and pray together.
41:21So, things are moving forward.
41:23I think there will be a meeting in the next 2-3 days.
41:27After the meeting, I don't know how far it will go.
41:30I don't know if Maulana will be able to tell us,
41:32or someone else will be able to tell us.
41:34I think Maulana says a lot of nonsensical things,
41:38which cannot be expressed in words.
41:41He has already said that he doesn't want to talk about such things.
41:44Zain Qureshi, you tell us,
41:46wouldn't PTI have had a very good advantage,
41:49which it won't have now,
41:51if you had a real alliance,
41:53if there was a name for it,
41:55if you both were there,
41:56if you were in politics,
41:57wouldn't you have had a big advantage,
41:58which you would have got, which you won't get now?
42:00Or will you continue your efforts to convince Maulana?
42:03It is like this,
42:05which the Senator has also pointed out,
42:07which was our way of doing things,
42:10in which these meetings were held,
42:12an earnest effort was made in that.
42:15Asad Qaisar Sahib was leading from our side,
42:17Maulana Sahib was leading his party,
42:19that everyone should be gathered.
42:21But if the JUIF has decided,
42:24that they want to run their own movement,
42:26then this is their decision,
42:28and we respect their decision.
42:30The rest you have done right.
42:32The experience they have had,
42:34has basically been with the PDM.
42:36The PDM gave them the leadership,
42:38the chairman of the PDM,
42:40made the governments himself,
42:42and left Maulana in the middle.
42:44But it is absolutely right,
42:46there is no doubt about it.
42:48But if the JUIF has decided,
42:50that they want to run their own movement,
42:52then we respect their decision.
42:54There is no doubt about it.
42:56But Zain Bhai,
42:57I am remembering Sohail Barahi Sahib,
42:59there is also an open contradiction,
43:01that right now,
43:02you both are being criticized,
43:03which is a good thing.
43:04May Allah make everyone in Pakistan,
43:05be criticized politically.
43:06In fact, allow me to say,
43:07I will be the happiest person,
43:08if there is such a political atmosphere in Pakistan,
43:10that every political worker,
43:11the way you speak,
43:12I am saying this by giving your name,
43:13the way your father speaks,
43:14should speak in the same way,
43:15that you even disagree with Tika,
43:16your opinion,
43:17you stand by your opinion,
43:18you don't agree with the other's opinion,
43:19but you don't even leave Tehreek-e-Azaman,
43:21so what can be better than this?
43:22So that is a very good thing.
43:23But there is a contradiction,
43:25that right now,
43:26Maulana Sahib's opinion is,
43:28that even in KPK,
43:29there is injustice with him,
43:30there is more complaint about KPK.
43:31And you are the largest stakeholder of KPK,
43:33so he is not saying this,
43:35but it is applied,
43:36that he thinks that the sessions,
43:38that were given to you,
43:39were actually his,
43:40that were given to you.
43:42Sir, we have said this before,
43:44and CM K.P. Ali Bin Ghandabur,
43:46has also said,
43:47that if you have a complaint,
43:49we are ready to open it,
43:50but in reality,
43:51Maulana's and our complaint,
43:53is from the Election Commission of Pakistan,
43:55and the kind of facilitation,
43:57that the ECP has done in this election,
43:59this complaint is from them.
44:00So, the purpose of the Tehreek-e-Tahafuz-e-Ain,
44:03was that,
44:04see,
44:05everyone believes this,
44:07that in 2024,
44:08you will say,
44:09since 1970,
44:10till date,
44:11no election has raised any objection,
44:13even in the 2018 election,
44:14there must have been objections,
44:15there must have been,
44:16but everyone believes,
44:17that in the 2024 election,
44:19the 8th of February election,
44:20there will be a lot of questions raised,
44:22MQM will talk in Karachi,
44:25JUF will talk in KPK,
44:28we will talk in Punjab,
44:30so this used to be a common ground,
44:32to the extent that,
44:33if I talk about Bilawal Bhutto Sahib,
44:35when Bilawal Bhutto Sahib,
44:36gave his first speech at the Congress Seminar,
44:38he also said,
44:39that every election is controversial,
44:41and I hope,
44:42that in the coming elections,
44:43this will not happen,
44:44so this has become a common denominator for everyone,
44:47so everyone should raise their voice on this issue,
44:49let's conclude this,
44:50on a lighter note,
44:51I will also say something,
44:52you have said a lot of things,
44:54about Halwa,
44:55so,
44:56you don't have to eat Halwa,
44:58but we will definitely send you,
44:59Multan's Stone Halwa,
45:00thank you very much,
45:01I caught your Halwa,
45:02Sir,
45:03I said,
45:04with love,
45:05that Mr. Kamran Murtaza,
45:06shouldn't get angry,
45:07but you caught it,
45:08thank God,
45:09Mr. Kamran didn't hear,
45:10when he was saying,
45:11I said,
45:12he must be eating Halwa as well,
45:13so,
45:14but Mr. Afnaan,
45:15now you are satisfied,
45:16the program started from here,
45:17at 11.08,
45:18Mr. Zain was saying,
45:19that I don't know,
45:20if the People's Party,
45:21and the Noon Ithiyaat,
45:22should continue,
45:23but in 11.50,
45:24we will tell you a short story,
45:25that Mr. Maulana is saying,
45:26that we will not go to the Ithiyaat,
45:27with PTI,
45:28or with anyone,
45:29this is the news of satisfaction for you,
45:30see,
45:31we think,
45:32that there should be,
45:33constructive criticism,
45:34there should be,
45:35an opposition,
45:36which,
45:37to improve the conditions of the country,
45:38should give suggestions,
45:40instead of,
45:41getting stuck,
45:42in the issues,
45:43of burning houses,
45:44so,
45:45this,
45:46if we take any step,
45:47towards that,
45:48it will be a good thing,
45:49unfortunately,
45:50the PTI,
45:51as I told you earlier,
45:52that the track record,
45:53was not that good,
45:54in this case,
45:55so,
45:56that,
45:57Mr. Afnaan,
45:58today,
45:59I am not criticizing you,
46:00today,
46:01I am not criticizing you,
46:02today,
46:03I am not criticizing you,
46:04today,
46:05I am not criticizing you,
46:06today,
46:07I am not criticizing you,
46:08even,
46:09now,
46:10I am not criticizing you,
46:11I am not criticizing your Punjab policy,
46:12I am not criticizing your Punjab policy,
46:13I am not criticizing your Punjab policy,
46:14I am not criticizing your Punjab policy,
46:15I am not criticizing your Punjab policy,
46:16I have not criticized,
46:17many of your statements,
46:18let it be,
46:19when 40-50 minutes have passed,
46:20let it be,
46:21but,
46:22you call,
46:23Mr. Maulana's statement,
46:24an insult,
46:25in which,
46:26he said,
46:27that we will not go into,
46:28unity,
46:29with anyone,
46:30see,
46:31obviously,
46:32it is his own policy,
46:33those who understand better,
46:34may do so,
46:35we respect Maulana,
46:36he was the President of,
46:37and he has spent a lot of time with us and he is a very brave person.
46:43He has spent a lot of time with us and he is a very brave person.
46:46He was saying that he has spent a lot of time with us and he is a very brave person.
46:47He was saying that he has spent a lot of time with us and he is a very brave person.
46:48He has spent a lot of time with us and he is a very brave person.
46:49He has spent a lot of time with us and he is a very brave person.
46:50He has spent a lot of time with us and he is a very brave person.
46:51He has spent a lot of time with us and he is a very brave person.
46:52He has spent a lot of time with us and he is a very brave person.
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