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Cipher case ka Faisla PTI kay Liye Kitna Nuqsan Dah? Barrister Ali Zafar's Analysis
Cipher case ka Faisla PTI kay Liye Kitna Nuqsan Dah? Barrister Ali Zafar's Analysis
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00:00 Where are you looking at politically? Will it be a loss or will it remain as it was?
00:06 Imran Khan was in the party earlier, he will be in the party now as well.
00:10 I think it is a matter of judgement.
00:13 I think there is a tendency, a human tendency,
00:20 and that is when you see someone being treated unjustly,
00:24 when you see someone being treated unjustly,
00:28 it is natural that your sympathy or support increases for them.
00:34 So this case, the previous case of the symbol,
00:39 and now this criminal case,
00:42 which everyone has seen that there is injustice,
00:47 the procedures and laws are being violated,
00:51 there is injustice,
00:53 so seeing all this, sympathy is increasing.
00:59 Instead of it being a loss,
01:03 the elections are very close,
01:06 maybe the purpose of this punishment was that the PTI will be at a loss in the elections,
01:12 but instead of a loss, sympathy is increasing.
01:16 And Imran Khan sir spoke very well today when I met him.
01:20 He said that it is a good thing that a 10 year sentence has been given instead of 2 years.
01:27 With a 10 year sentence, people see more injustice, more clearness.
01:34 So this is our attitude about these cases,
01:38 because these cases are so baseless that the political benefit is not the loss.
01:44 My personal opinion is that Imran Khan was inside,
01:50 I remember Munna Bhai's dialogue in the second part,
01:54 he said that let's throw him out, he is already inside, how much more will he go inside?
01:57 So he is already inside, how much more will he go inside?
02:00 But a reminder has come to a voter that this is what is going on.
02:05 Ali Zafar sir, I am saying that your voter will take this as a reminder,
02:12 that this is being done to your party, or will he take it in such a way that he will not leave it, what to do now?
02:19 No, he is taking it in the same way as you said before.
02:25 And the reason is that he knows that he cannot fight an election from the beginning.
02:30 The conviction of the Tosha Khana case has been filed,
02:34 that case is not being filed in the Supreme Court,
02:37 and because of that he is not able to fight the elections himself.
02:40 Now this second conviction has also come, and he has seen that...
02:45 Sir, tell me one thing, I want to tell you, I have heard that Tosha Khana has also started wrapping up,
02:50 there will be a punishment in that too.
02:52 Yes, I was just about to say that, the strange thing that I have seen is that,
02:58 there is only one jail, two rooms have been made in it,
03:02 and both the criminal cases, this Tosha Khana case and this Saifur case,
03:08 both of them continued till last night, and only one...
03:12 Sir, this is called speedy justice,
03:14 earlier you used to say that there is no justice in this country,
03:16 now that the decisions are coming, you say that this is very unfair.
03:19 And there should be a way of decision-making,
03:21 I agree with that, sir.
03:22 There are ways, but through a fair trial.
03:26 Today, in fact, in the Tosha Khana case,
03:29 the evidence, the right of the lawyer has been closed,
03:38 the right of cross-examination has been terminated.
03:41 And yesterday...
03:43 Sir, in your opinion, did the judge forget to take a statement from Shah Mehmood Qureshi?
03:47 What must have happened?
03:48 Yes, absolutely.
03:49 He said that he had to give a decision, what is the point of taking a statement?
03:53 What happened was that the judge was about to give a decision,
03:58 he told Shah Mehmood Qureshi to write his statement,
04:02 Shah Mehmood Qureshi wrote a very detailed statement,
04:05 when it was his turn to start the statement,
04:09 the judge left the room,
04:11 and after 15 minutes he came back and gave his statement.
04:14 And then he left again.
04:16 So, did he forget to take his statement?
04:18 I think he cannot forget,
04:21 obviously, he cannot forget in 15 minutes.
04:24 Such a detailed judgment was written in 15 minutes,
04:27 so he cannot forget.
04:30 But, of course, he saw that perhaps he did not want to write the statement,
04:36 or he was in a hurry,
04:37 because a petition was filed in the High Court in the morning,
04:41 and it was possible that it would be terminated by 12 o'clock in the High Court.
04:45 So I think his intention was that before it was terminated,
04:50 Interesting.