" High Court Ke Judges Se Mutaliq Hum Ne Hukoomat Ko Jo Tajweez Di Hai Is Mein. .. " Bilawal Bhutto
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00:00Sir, can High Court judges be transferred?
00:03As far as the right to transfer is concerned,
00:06the recommendation we have given to the government
00:10is that they should have consent.
00:16The judge or the Chief Justice should have consent
00:22and this decision should not be the government's decision.
00:25This decision should be the Supreme Judicial Council
00:28or the body of the judges of the Parliament.
00:33This should not be the domain of any executive authority.
00:36Sir, he is saying that you are destroying the High Courts
00:38because you know that the judges of the High Courts have written the right.
00:41Yes, they have done this to the Supreme Courts.
00:43I have been in the case of the Constitutional People's Court for 50 years.
00:46Till date, in the case of the martyr Mortimer Benazir Bhutto,
00:48the police officers who did not find the traitor,
00:51that Aamir had to wait for his death,
00:54then the case against him was dismissed that he died.
00:58The police officers who washed away the crime scene,
01:01you have also freed them.
01:03The common man has no hope of justice from the High Courts,
01:06the Lower Courts and the Supreme Courts.
01:08We are going to destroy.
01:10They have destroyed. We are going to fix.
01:13Sir, the Parliament is also destroyed in the same way
01:15as a rubber stamp has been made.
01:18Your Minister of Law said that I did not see the controversy.
01:21Your Deputy Prime Minister said that I did not see the controversy.
01:23I did not see the controversy. I do not know where it came from.
01:25Yes, that was the rubber stamp.
01:28Before that, the way the Parliament was,
01:32when the Independent Parliament was legislating,
01:36it was the same Kashif Abbasi,
01:38it was the same Ayyarwai,
01:40that Panama, Xhosa,
01:43these were the champions of Istikhar Chaudhary.
01:48So, Kashif Abbasi, with apologies,
01:51today, when I hear the same objections from the same people,
01:55the way I have given importance to that objection in the past,
01:59now we have decided that with a lot of respect,
02:03we respect you,
02:05we can talk to you,
02:07we can engage with you.
02:08I believe that we can answer all your questions.
02:12But now, we have to do politics,
02:17like the courts have been doing,
02:19running their institutions,
02:21and other institutions have been running their institutions,
02:23and Parliamentary authority,
02:26and all other institutions have only curled except for Parliament.
02:30Ibtikhar Chaudhary,
02:32he was removed unilaterally,
02:35Aamir removed him,
02:37this will happen again,
02:38if I get a chance,
02:39I will still stand against that action.
02:42Even today, if someone is removed unilaterally,
02:45I will still stand against it.
02:47Sir, even if you are standing in favour of this unilateral action,
02:51I will still stand against it.
02:52Sir, if you are telling me to get people's properties which are undeclared,
02:57and I say that the balance is good,
02:58what should I do with that?
02:59You can bring the bills that you want to bring to Parliament,
03:02but the consensus in the judiciary,
03:05which has not been there since today,
03:07but has been there since 2004-2006,
03:11you can't say that 15 years,
03:14or 20 years is too fast.
03:17We are going to wait for 15-20 years,
03:24God willing, we will be successful.
03:26Sir, I will add one more thing,
03:27the argument you gave me in Panama,
03:29you said that the Sharif family was caught red-handed.
03:32I had a misunderstanding,
03:34that this case will be heard in the right way,
03:39which was right,
03:40but that also got ruined,
03:42because I had an interest in politics,
03:44I didn't have an interest in running the system of the court,
03:47and making the right decisions.
03:49If that case had gone in the right way,
03:52maybe the situation would have been different legally.
03:55But because it was that case,
03:58or it was Mr. Killani's case,
04:00politics was given importance,
04:02not the law and the constitution.
04:04Even in our case,
04:06even today,
04:07the case of our Sindh's fake accounts,
04:10the case of the FIA,
04:12is going on in Bindi.
04:14The Supreme Court has decided this.
04:17Sir, but the case is not that good,
04:18when the government itself said,
04:20that yes, my fake accounts…
04:21You can run it in Bindi,
04:22but how can you object,
04:24when the government says,
04:26that if you can put the case from one side to the other,
04:29then we want to put the judge from one side to the other.
04:31I am giving this suggestion to the government,
04:34and I am giving this suggestion to the government,
04:36that in this world,
04:38the executive does not have this power.
04:40We have this power with the Supreme Judicial Council,
04:43and with the judiciary,
04:45or with the Parliamentary Judicial Commission.
04:48Sir, can I ask one last question?
04:50I wanted to ask about the people who went to the Parliament,
04:53and the parliamentarians who were arrested.
04:55But I think your time is less.
04:57The way the Parliament was breached,
05:00and you said nothing in your speech.
05:02If the Parliament is going to be breached,
05:04like in 2014,
05:06if the Parliament is going to be breached,
05:08then that is the right way.
05:10You will give 24-hour coverage,
05:12you will clap,
05:13you will claim for the revolution.
05:15Sir, in the case of those who opposed the protest,
05:18the money that was taken,
05:19I got a 9th place list at that time.
05:21Whether we made a committee,
05:23or we said that we are all with you,
05:25then that is bad.