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"Ham Ayesa Qanoon Nahi Banaye Gay Jo Qazi Faez Isa ki...." Bilawal Bhutto's Huge Statement
"Ham Ayesa Qanoon Nahi Banaye Gay Jo Qazi Faez Isa ki...." Bilawal Bhutto's Huge Statement
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00:00Qazi Faisal Sahib has become the next Chief Justice. Do you have any objection to this?
00:05You should first make a Constitutional Court and then decide who will be the next Chief Justice.
00:10My objection is that...
00:12Sir, yesterday you said that Mansoor Ali Shah will be the next Chief Justice.
00:19Pakistan People's Party, person specific clauses, whether it is to remove a person or to appoint a person,
00:27we will not be in his favour.
00:29So, you will not be in the favour of Qazi Faisal Sahib?
00:32If you make it person specific in appointing or removing Qazi Faisal Sahib,
00:39the People's Party will not support it.
00:41Our starting point is that it will not be person specific.
00:44So, I will not make a law that only targets Qaizi Faiz Issa Sahib.
00:49And I will not make a law that only promotes Qaiz Faiz Issa Sahib.
00:56I want a law that can go on forever.
00:59Absolutely.
01:00A law that can get the people of this country justice as soon as possible.
01:04Right now, our Supreme Court gives 90% of its 15% cases, political and legal cases, to those cases.
01:13My grandfather got 50 years to get justice.
01:16Every citizen should not wait that long.
01:20This is my objective.
01:21Absolutely right.
01:22Sir, if the Parliament does this, if there are two or three institutions,
01:26they should be rectified.
01:27Absolutely.
01:28And all these nations will be happy.
01:30In fact, they will pray that whoever rectifies these institutions,
01:34takes the authority from the establishment to run the rest of the country.
01:38Tell the court to do its own job.
01:40Give justice to the people instead of interfering in politics.
01:43But tell me, sir, the statement you gave yesterday that Mansoor Ali Shah will be the Chief Justice.
01:47What will he be the Chief Justice of?
01:49Will he be the Chief Justice of the Indian Court or the Chief Justice of another court?
01:52That decision is for later.
01:56In that context, whether he becomes the Chief Justice of the Constitutional Court or the Supreme Court,
02:01he will be the Chief Justice.
02:05Sir, this is the problem here.
02:06But this is the problem for the people who are person-specific.
02:10No, no, but he is next in line.
02:12I raised this in front of Maulana Fazl Rahman in that committee.
02:16Look, people are saying that the government is partisan.
02:19People are saying that the PTI is partisan.
02:22What does the People's Party have to do with the JUI?
02:25Our job is to do justice.
02:28This is an old demand of mine and yours.
02:30So if we come up with a version that is not person-specific,
02:35then maybe we can move it forward.
02:38But I am committed to getting my mother's promises implemented.
02:43And I will engage with Maulana Fazl Rahman in his party,
02:48despite the statements in bad taste that were given by his official representative.
02:53And I will continue my all-out efforts to ensure that we meet the numbers
02:58to try and pass the best possible legislation to bring about judicial reform in this country
03:05that has not only affected me as a person and my family,
03:08but if you take a survey of any place,
03:11if you ask the public, if you ask lawyers,
03:15if you ask your media colleagues,
03:17if you ask politicians,
03:19no one can deny the fact that judicial reform should take place.
03:2380% of people cannot deny the fact that the INE court should be formed.
03:30If there is any objection, it is that the timing is not right, the method is not right.
03:36So my answer to that is only this,
03:39if not now, then when?
03:41But Mr. Bilawal, the way you spoke,
03:43you said that the objection is on the method.
03:45You also spoke about the right of the parliamentarians.
03:47What right does a parliamentarian have?
03:49Even at midnight, the parliamentarians did not know
03:52which thumbprint to put on which issue.
03:54If Maulana had agreed that day,
03:56then the legislation would have been done by now.
03:58No one knew, sir.
04:00No one knows what the issue is.
04:02It is not the right of the two courts to sit at midnight.
04:08It is only their right to come and break the law.
04:14It is only their right to sit at midnight
04:17and tell Amir to come and rule for 10-11 years.
04:22If any parliamentarian by mistake,
04:25although we say that politicians do not work,
04:29I think it is a very good thing that we worked hard.
04:35If we try to address every issue with this hard work,
04:39then maybe there will be more progress.
04:41This is the problem.
04:42Because we have never seen this parliament sitting at 12 o'clock,
04:44except when you get some political benefit.
04:47So I was sitting in this parliament at the time of the meeting.
04:50Political benefit.
04:51If there is political benefit, then you will sit at 12 o'clock too.
04:53That is why the way you are doing it,
04:55the way you are doing it,
04:57the way you have done the 18th amendment,
05:00how much praise do you get for the 18th amendment?
05:02It took 8 months.
05:03Everyone's consensus was built.
05:05People were asking each other on TV,
05:08where are Musabdeh?
05:09Should I talk to Noonwals?
05:10They said, sir, we do not know what is happening.
05:12We have only been told to wait.
05:13Whatever Musabdeh comes,
05:14there will be a meeting at 12 o'clock,
05:16put your thumb up and go home.
05:17There is no need for you to find out what is going to happen,
05:19what is written in it.
05:20That is why it seems that this is a person-specific amendment.
05:23This is being done for personal benefit,
05:25for political benefit.
05:27Sir,
05:28I can't,
05:29I can't talk about anyone else's intentions,
05:32but I don't see a personal benefit or political benefit in it
05:37that I succeed in it.
05:39As far as my 70 votes are concerned,
05:41and my hard work day and night,
05:43that is because I have to fulfill my mother's dream.
05:47What is the intention of Maulana Fazl Rehman Sahib that he is supporting it?
05:51Or what is the intention of Mian Nawaz Sharif and Mian Shabaz Sharif that he is supporting it?
05:56I have nothing to do with it.
05:59I have nothing to do with the fact that I have to show my Mansoor.
06:04As far as you are concerned,
06:06the way we did the 18th amendment,
06:11you are absolutely right.
06:13We spent a year discussing the 18th amendment.
06:16All parties,
06:17not only the government parties,
06:18every single party was part of that process.
06:21What did the Supreme Court say when they heard about the 18th amendment?
06:25They said,
06:26what kind of time is this?
06:27You got a committee to pass this.
06:30When we got a majority of three-thirds,
06:33what did the Supreme Court say?
06:35That we will pass a complete amendment.
06:37So now,
06:38whether I do it with three-thirds or two-thirds,
06:41I have to do it.
06:43And twice bitten,
06:45I mean,
06:46once bitten twice.
06:47You have seen what they did with the 19th amendment.
06:49You have seen what they made us go through
06:51when we legislated more reforms in the judiciary
06:54every single time.