Celtics In-Season Tournament Hopes | How 'Bout Them Celtics

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Sam and Jack are back with the latest Boston Celtics talk. In this one, they break down how the Celtics can still advance in the In-Season Tournament after their loss to the Orlando Magic, explain why the Celtics should be utilizing Kristaps Porzingis more on offense, and discuss Kevin Garnett's rant defending the modern NBA. Plus, they talk about Zach LaVine, TJ Warren, and Jordan Poole. Let us know your thoughts, and as always, thanks for listening to How 'Bout Them Celtics!

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0:00 Intro
2:07 Inpopnito winner
5:22 Celtics In-Season Tournament hopes
11:05 Celtics injuries concerning?
16:34 Time to play more through Porzingis?
26:34 Kevin Garnett rant defending modern NBA
32:30 Email check-in
41:27 NBA standings check-in
48:41 Heat don’t want Zach LaVine
49:59 TJ Warren is BACK
51:03 Heat fans think Cavs have hole in floor
53:27 Kevin Garnett on Jordan Poole
58:30 The Rat List
01:07:37 Outro

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Transcript
00:00:00 These guys are ridiculous.
00:00:02 These guys are ridiculous.
00:00:04 Now, how about them damn Celtics?
00:00:06 And we are back with another episode of How 'bout them Celtics.
00:00:08 Sam and I are here recording on Friday, November 24th.
00:00:10 We just recorded our recap of the Celtics Magic Game.
00:00:12 So if you want to hear our full thoughts on that, go check it out.
00:00:14 Wish I was dead.
00:00:16 Wasn't a fun one.
00:00:18 Celtics got blown out.
00:00:20 Worst loss of the season.
00:00:22 Didn't put up 100 points for the first time this year.
00:00:24 Lost by 17.
00:00:26 Again, you want our full thoughts on that.
00:00:28 Go check it out.
00:00:30 We went for 20 minutes.
00:00:32 It was not the best recap we have ever had to make.
00:00:34 No, we had a good recap.
00:00:36 We talked about --
00:00:38 Not the most fun.
00:00:40 Not the most fun recap we have gotten to make here.
00:00:42 We are recording this a day earlier than we normally would.
00:00:44 We usually record these on Saturday.
00:00:46 I am going out tomorrow.
00:00:48 I am going to watch the Michigan Ohio State game.
00:00:50 You are watching it too.
00:00:52 We are both going to be watching that game.
00:00:54 Rooting for different sides.
00:00:56 I am rooting for Michigan.
00:00:58 I am rooting for Ohio State.
00:01:00 I am rooting for Ohio State.
00:01:02 Mo Wagner killed the Celtics.
00:01:04 I can respect that.
00:01:06 I am a big Trey Burke fan.
00:01:08 Trey Burke fucked me back in the day.
00:01:10 [Laughter]
00:01:12 In eighth grade, we did a bracket challenge.
00:01:14 I was going to win.
00:01:16 I had Kansas winning in 2013.
00:01:18 Trey Burke in Michigan.
00:01:20 I was going to win.
00:01:22 I had Kansas winning in 2013.
00:01:24 Trey Burke in Michigan beat Kansas in the final four.
00:01:26 Once Kansas goes down, all I need is for Michigan to go on and win.
00:01:28 I would have won.
00:01:30 They lose.
00:01:32 Talk to me.
00:01:34 Louisville.
00:01:36 It is actually Mickey Mouse erased because of that rat patina.
00:01:38 Very true.
00:01:40 We should do a challenge this summer.
00:01:42 Is there something Sam can't find over there?
00:01:44 I think so.
00:01:46 I think so.
00:01:48 I think so.
00:01:50 I think so.
00:01:52 Is there something Sam can't find a way to hate?
00:01:54 I think that would be a good segment.
00:01:56 We should do a show on that.
00:01:58 That is a true anecdote.
00:02:00 I know.
00:02:02 That really happened to me.
00:02:04 I believe you.
00:02:06 I am just saying.
00:02:08 It is incredible.
00:02:10 One thing Sam can never hate, however, is Impopnito.
00:02:12 We are going to pick the Impopnito winner.
00:02:14 I hate Impopnito.
00:02:16 You talk while I put them in the wheel.
00:02:18 I did forget to put them in the wheel.
00:02:20 I will put them in the wheel.
00:02:22 Jack and I were sent 10 Impopnito bags.
00:02:24 I have three empty ones.
00:02:26 I have polished off within the last 24 hours.
00:02:28 This product is no joke.
00:02:30 It is excellent.
00:02:32 You definitely want to be the wheel winner.
00:02:34 If you are, $10 to you on the website.
00:02:36 You can buy a bag for yourself for free with that $10.
00:02:38 Then obviously you can shop more.
00:02:40 Great gift for the holidays.
00:02:42 I love it.
00:02:44 I love it.
00:02:46 I love it.
00:02:48 Great gift for the holidays.
00:02:50 People do the little popcorn bins for Christmas.
00:02:52 Look no further.
00:02:54 Some of the greatest popcorn you could ever put in a bin.
00:02:56 Get you some Impopnito.
00:02:58 The best comment we got on the last podcast was Joey Spatula commenting,
00:03:00 "I just yelled 'fuck' so loud my wife was concerned."
00:03:02 He almost won.
00:03:04 I will throw it in here.
00:03:06 Mark it down.
00:03:08 [Music]
00:03:10 [Music]
00:03:12 [Music]
00:03:14 [Music]
00:03:16 [Music]
00:03:18 [Music]
00:03:20 Going to be the winner.
00:03:22 Dakota Wilkins!
00:03:24 Shout out Dakota.
00:03:26 Joey Spatula is going to watch this and see just how good he was.
00:03:28 That is a heart breaking defeat for Joey Spatula.
00:03:30 That is whip your phone.
00:03:32 [Music]
00:03:34 Joey Spatula was one wheel away.
00:03:36 One slot away from winning.
00:03:38 He just commented,
00:03:40 "I just yelled 'fuck' so loud my wife was concerned."
00:03:42 He scared his wife out of a room.
00:03:44 He scared his wife out of a rage of not winning the popcorn.
00:03:46 I don't know if we got a Joey Spatula redemption.
00:03:48 We do.
00:03:50 We do have a Joey Spatula redemption on this wheel.
00:03:52 Let's see if Joey can get some redemption here.
00:03:54 If he wins, then this is Mickey Mouse fake.
00:03:56 He cannot win this time.
00:03:58 We have to actively root against Joey Spatula.
00:04:00 If he wins, it looks like we rig it.
00:04:02 I know.
00:04:04 You see the wheel.
00:04:06 Nine entries this week.
00:04:08 Let's see who is winning some Impopnito.
00:04:10 [Music]
00:04:12 Let's see who is winning some Impopnito.
00:04:14 [Music]
00:04:16 Who is it going to be?
00:04:18 [Music]
00:04:20 Joey Spatula!
00:04:22 [Music]
00:04:24 We did not rig this.
00:04:26 You saw the spin right there.
00:04:28 [Laughter]
00:04:30 This is going to be the part of my
00:04:32 Take Lottery Ball controversy
00:04:34 that I have going on right now.
00:04:36 It was so close to Joey not winning.
00:04:38 Look at this.
00:04:40 Look at this.
00:04:42 Look at it.
00:04:44 I'm sorry Michael.
00:04:46 Michael is another constant entry.
00:04:48 One of the goats.
00:04:50 Joey though.
00:04:52 We will get in contact with you.
00:04:54 It's easy.
00:04:56 You have sent me some DMs before.
00:04:58 What a redemption arc.
00:05:00 What a great way to kick off the pod.
00:05:02 You saw it.
00:05:04 We do it live every time.
00:05:06 We make sure not to rig it.
00:05:08 We get you in there.
00:05:10 My favorite thing about doing the wheel
00:05:12 is after it's done and way before the pod is up
00:05:14 just going in the YouTube comments
00:05:16 and going "Guess what buddy?" to the winner.
00:05:18 [Laughter]
00:05:20 Joey will get the message this time.
00:05:22 Alright.
00:05:24 Let's start with some in-season tournament
00:05:26 updates because it is now relevant for the Celtics.
00:05:28 With the Celtics' loss
00:05:30 to the Orlando Magic
00:05:32 on Friday, which is now a couple days ago
00:05:34 as you guys are listening to this.
00:05:36 They are second in their group in the in-season tournament.
00:05:38 The Magic
00:05:40 and the Celtics, or excuse me,
00:05:42 the Magic are 3-1, the Celtics are 2-1.
00:05:44 And because the Celtics lost by 17
00:05:46 they now have a net zero point differential.
00:05:48 So,
00:05:50 the only ways the Celtics can advance, obviously,
00:05:52 are by winning the group for the wild card.
00:05:54 To win the group, the Celtics need some things to happen now.
00:05:56 In order for the Celtics to win the group
00:05:58 they need to beat
00:06:00 the Bulls
00:06:02 in their fourth and final game
00:06:04 by at least 23 points.
00:06:06 And they need the Nets to beat the Raptors.
00:06:10 Because the way this works is
00:06:12 if it is a two-way tie atop the group,
00:06:16 so let's say the Celtics win
00:06:18 by 23 or however many,
00:06:20 and the Nets lose.
00:06:22 That would mean the Nets are 2-2,
00:06:24 the Celtics and Magic are both 3-1.
00:06:26 However, since it's a two-way tie
00:06:28 it goes to whoever won in the group play.
00:06:30 And since the Magic beat the Celtics,
00:06:32 the Magic would advance.
00:06:34 However, if the Nets win,
00:06:36 they are 3-1, and the Celtics win,
00:06:38 they are 3-1, and the Magic are 3-1,
00:06:40 since it's a three-way tie,
00:06:42 it would automatically go to point differential.
00:06:44 And at that point, since the Magic
00:06:46 finished the group play with a +22 point differential,
00:06:48 the Celtics will have needed
00:06:50 to beat the Bulls by at least 23.
00:06:52 So, if the Nets lose,
00:06:54 the Celtics can't advance by way of winning the group.
00:06:56 If the Nets win,
00:06:58 and the Celtics don't win by 23,
00:07:00 the Celtics do not win the group.
00:07:02 They still have a chance in the wild card,
00:07:04 but they still have a chance to win the group.
00:07:06 They just need two very specific things to happen,
00:07:08 and that is that.
00:07:10 And Sam and I would appreciate it if they did that,
00:07:12 because that would make our lives more fun.
00:07:14 So, taking a look at the standings,
00:07:16 Celtics essentially
00:07:20 have some good news.
00:07:22 Here's some good news.
00:07:24 So,
00:07:26 this is the wild card, what I'm talking about.
00:07:28 Above the Celtics
00:07:30 in the wild card race
00:07:32 is Miami, who has two games yet to play.
00:07:34 One, as we're recording this,
00:07:36 will be tonight. So, by the time you listen,
00:07:38 you'll know if they won or not.
00:07:40 You have Brooklyn, who directly impacts
00:07:42 Boston's ability to win the group.
00:07:44 So, if the Nets lose,
00:07:46 and the Celtics have no other way
00:07:48 to advance
00:07:50 other than making it through the wild card,
00:07:52 the Nets will have dropped below them.
00:07:56 Cleveland,
00:07:58 who is one team I really don't...
00:08:00 Let's see, they have Atlanta in the last game.
00:08:02 So, I really don't know
00:08:04 exactly
00:08:06 what's going to happen there.
00:08:08 But, there's Milwaukee
00:08:10 and there's Miami.
00:08:12 One of those teams has to lose
00:08:14 because they play each other in the last game
00:08:16 of their group. So, you're going to get some help.
00:08:18 It's not out of the question...
00:08:20 or out of
00:08:22 the realm of possibility that the Celtics
00:08:24 will still move on.
00:08:26 But, they've essentially
00:08:28 made a mockery of themselves.
00:08:30 Tell me if you've heard that one before.
00:08:32 I think... Celtics before the season...
00:08:34 Go ahead. I was going to say
00:08:36 the most important thing, while it is possible
00:08:38 for them to...
00:08:40 the Nets need to win too. The most important thing
00:08:42 now, for everything, is to
00:08:44 blow out the Bulls
00:08:46 in the next game. Because even if they finish
00:08:48 3-1, the Nets, the Cavs, and the Heat still
00:08:50 have a chance to finish 3-1. And all of
00:08:52 them have a significant point
00:08:54 differential advantage in their
00:08:56 overall
00:08:58 here. So, the Celtics
00:09:00 need to stomp the Bulls.
00:09:02 They need a 51-point win, like the Pacers
00:09:04 game, if they want a chance. So, that's the most
00:09:06 important thing. Alright, go ahead.
00:09:08 So... Well, how great would a
00:09:10 51-point win be?
00:09:12 I could use a 51-point win.
00:09:14 So, before the season, the Celtics were
00:09:16 given their group, as was
00:09:18 the rest of the NBA. And the Celtics got
00:09:20 the most Mickey Mouse group of all the groups.
00:09:22 It was the easiest group.
00:09:24 And now the Celtics, after losing one game to
00:09:26 Orlando, are in a position where they may not
00:09:28 win the group. They may...
00:09:30 they may wind up not
00:09:32 advancing in the tournament at all. The Celtics
00:09:34 entered this tournament as the odds-on
00:09:36 favorite to win the tournament.
00:09:38 And because they decided to play like absolute
00:09:40 asshats for the second half in Orlando,
00:09:42 that is all
00:09:44 awash. It's up in the air. You don't
00:09:46 know what's going to happen. Tuesday is
00:09:48 going to be a big day. Tune in.
00:09:50 Watch the stupid courts.
00:09:52 I agree. First of all.
00:09:56 First and foremost, Celtics should have won this group.
00:09:58 Mickey Mouse group. Sure. In hindsight,
00:10:00 is the Lakers group
00:10:02 worse? Because the match occurred a lot better than people
00:10:04 expected, and all of the teams in the
00:10:06 Lakers group are a lot worse than people expected.
00:10:08 It might be Mickey Mouse too. That would be very on-brand
00:10:10 for the Lakers. And LeBron.
00:10:12 Because the Suns have been dealing with injuries
00:10:14 all year, so they haven't been healthy. That would be Mickey Mouse
00:10:16 for sure. Jazz stink.
00:10:18 They do. Blazers stink.
00:10:20 Grizzlies stink. Blazers stink out loud.
00:10:22 And Grizzlies' unexpected stink.
00:10:24 So, again,
00:10:26 this is not an excuse for the Celtics,
00:10:28 saying, "Oh, their group's worse." It doesn't
00:10:30 matter. Win your group, be better.
00:10:32 That said, in hindsight,
00:10:34 Magic, very good team.
00:10:36 And also, I mean,
00:10:38 Nets, Bulls, Raptors kind of stink.
00:10:40 Nets okay, but Bulls and Raptors stink.
00:10:42 Anyways, just a little
00:10:44 bit of what the Lakers hate. Early in the pod, why not?
00:10:46 You never can get enough.
00:10:48 You see their point differential?
00:10:50 What'd you say? You see the Lakers'
00:10:52 point differential. What is it?
00:10:54 Plus 74. Celtics would have
00:10:56 at least plus 75.
00:10:58 For what? In that group?
00:11:00 If they were in that group. Yeah, yeah, I agree.
00:11:02 At least.
00:11:04 Agree. Alright.
00:11:06 Next Celtics thing we're talking about here is injuries.
00:11:08 Not a fun thing. Another not fun thing.
00:11:10 Because they've started to sort of, like,
00:11:12 New England Baptist Hospital is getting some publicity lately.
00:11:14 I hate New England Baptist Hospital.
00:11:16 I hate New England Baptist Hospital
00:11:20 so much. You know how,
00:11:22 the amount of people they may have saved, they have
00:11:24 created in pain for me.
00:11:26 The scale is balanced.
00:11:28 For the amount of hardship they've caused
00:11:30 millions of Celtics fans,
00:11:32 sure, they've probably saved some lives, but
00:11:34 you really have to be a scumbag
00:11:36 to advertise and really
00:11:38 capitalize on the injuries of others.
00:11:40 That's what I would say. Wouldn't you agree?
00:11:42 I must not speak.
00:11:46 I do not wish to speak.
00:11:48 I'd be in big trouble.
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00:12:30 Jalen Brown was hurt
00:12:34 briefly because he slipped on the in-season tournament court.
00:12:36 By the way, more slippage than in-season tournament courts.
00:12:38 Out. Fuck off.
00:12:40 Drew Holiday missed today's game
00:12:44 against, or today's recording this.
00:12:46 Missed the Magic game with a sprained ankle.
00:12:48 Christops Porzingis was out
00:12:50 midway through the game because he tweaked his leg running on the court.
00:12:52 Obviously, Christops is
00:12:54 injury prone. Drew Holiday, Jalen Brown,
00:12:56 not always so much.
00:12:58 Is there any level of, also
00:13:00 update on Christops Porzingis just because
00:13:02 this is a podcast and we do that.
00:13:04 Gary Washburn of the Globe
00:13:06 said Christops Porzingis tells the Globe that he'll have
00:13:08 an MRI on his left calf tomorrow,
00:13:10 which again is yesterday as you're listening
00:13:12 to this. So apologies, we don't have the
00:13:14 latest update for you because we were recording it early.
00:13:16 But he says he doesn't think the injury is
00:13:18 too serious, said he felt a tweak running
00:13:20 the floor, did not slip.
00:13:22 My question to you,
00:13:24 any worries on the injury front
00:13:26 for the Celtics now that we've seen the little
00:13:28 Knicks start to pop up, or do you think this is just
00:13:30 injuries happen throughout the course of the season, it's still
00:13:32 okay? So,
00:13:34 I'd say I definitely have some
00:13:36 worry.
00:13:38 It's always worrisome
00:13:40 when they're injured versus not
00:13:42 injured. It's also worrisome
00:13:44 when you see the Celtics have to play
00:13:46 with injuries or without guys because
00:13:48 they're injured, and they look like
00:13:50 a team of toddlers trying to
00:13:52 squirm the magic and stop the magic.
00:13:54 So my
00:13:56 level of concern comes from the
00:13:58 "I don't trust them to win games with just
00:14:00 Coleman Brown. I think they need Holiday and
00:14:02 Porzingis to be a successful team."
00:14:04 And Derek Wight, too.
00:14:06 But,
00:14:08 injury concern
00:14:10 as of Friday at 5.52?
00:14:12 Two?
00:14:14 Okay. Yeah, good.
00:14:16 I agree. And he walked off the floor
00:14:18 in his own power. I don't think it's great that
00:14:20 he came out
00:14:22 of the game and didn't come back.
00:14:24 I also think if there's ever a time to be
00:14:26 cautious, now is the time.
00:14:28 Maybe not an in-season tournament.
00:14:30 Sure. Maybe not an in-season tournament.
00:14:32 In terms of timing of the year, everyone
00:14:34 knows what the Celtics are playing for.
00:14:36 If you can take Porzingis out of
00:14:38 a game at halftime of a November
00:14:40 24th game, regardless of the in-season tournament,
00:14:42 to preserve him, you do it.
00:14:44 If you can rest Drew Holiday,
00:14:46 if he's even feeling a little bit off and there's a risk
00:14:48 that he could tweak it further, you do it.
00:14:50 So I'm not overly worried
00:14:52 about either of those injuries.
00:14:54 I'm not worried about Tatum or Brown. I'm going to knock on
00:14:56 wood here real quick. However,
00:14:58 it just feels like... Well, Brown might have CTE
00:15:00 second half.
00:15:02 [laughter]
00:15:04 [laughter]
00:15:06 [laughter]
00:15:08 I'm not too worried
00:15:10 about just being overly
00:15:12 cautious with their guys because they
00:15:14 know some guys have dealt with injuries in the past.
00:15:16 It's just something to note at this
00:15:18 point. I'm bummed because Jalen
00:15:20 played a great game on Wednesday and I was so excited
00:15:22 when he came out and played really great in the first quarter.
00:15:24 He played a great first half.
00:15:26 It was just a really rough second half.
00:15:28 I don't blame him completely.
00:15:30 I don't blame him completely because
00:15:32 it did feel like he had to press a little bit because the rest of the
00:15:34 offense was just ass and didn't do
00:15:36 anything. However,
00:15:38 it was bad.
00:15:40 I thought about you when I was watching the game and I
00:15:42 saw Jalen. The Celtics would be kind of
00:15:44 reeling and then Jalen would be like
00:15:46 "It's Jalen time" and he would try and drive into the
00:15:48 paint with like five people in front of him.
00:15:50 I was like, "Oh, this is why
00:15:52 Jack wrote that article being all mean to Jalen."
00:15:54 I'm not doing it out of spite, people.
00:15:58 I watch the games.
00:16:00 I see Jalen do a hard crossover
00:16:02 and I'm like, "Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait!"
00:16:04 I really don't want to
00:16:06 see a turnover. Please stop.
00:16:08 He was really rough around
00:16:10 the rim today, which usually doesn't happen for him.
00:16:12 The one for me that did it was
00:16:14 there was like eight minutes left in the game.
00:16:16 They just got a turnover. They cut it down to
00:16:18 11 points and he just pulled up
00:16:20 from three in transition. I was like,
00:16:22 "Damn."
00:16:24 Play the Seinfeld video. "The fuck you doing,
00:16:26 you little piece of shit?"
00:16:28 *imitates Seinfeld theme*
00:16:30 *laughs*
00:16:32 Injuries, anyways. I'm still okay.
00:16:34 Next thing I have is, speaking of
00:16:36 somebody who's injured, I want to
00:16:38 start a dialogue here.
00:16:40 I've been saying this, dog.
00:16:42 You were saying this. Fine, we're going to
00:16:44 start a dialogue because we just did a video on
00:16:46 Christoph Porzingis' aggressiveness.
00:16:48 You guys seemed to like it.
00:16:50 You watched the video. We got some nice comments
00:16:52 saying we should do more film stuff.
00:16:54 We're going to react to stuff more.
00:16:56 I think we enjoy those videos just as much.
00:16:58 It feels like they should start playing
00:17:00 through Porzingis even more than they already are.
00:17:02 I don't know what his usage percentage
00:17:04 or all those advanced stats is off the top of the head.
00:17:06 What I do know is-
00:17:08 It's not high enough.
00:17:10 Exactly. What I do know is I'm going to pull up a couple clips
00:17:12 from the Orlando game, particularly his two assists.
00:17:14 Because you look at these two assists
00:17:16 and the first thing that should jump to your head
00:17:18 is, "Wow, the Celtics should probably
00:17:20 play through this guy more."
00:17:22 He should probably be in almost every single
00:17:24 action that's ever on the court
00:17:26 because he is a walking mismatch
00:17:28 because of how much talent is around him.
00:17:30 Watch this play. Tatum, pretty aggressive
00:17:32 solid defense by a smaller defender here.
00:17:34 Flex the arm a little. Sets a scream.
00:17:36 Has to get it to him. Look at that pass.
00:17:38 Look how quick this is.
00:17:40 Splits two defenders. Here you go, Tatum.
00:17:42 Dunk. Easy.
00:17:44 I tweeted about this.
00:17:46 Somebody- yeah, Tatum did get a tag for me.
00:17:48 The NBA-
00:17:50 This guy on Twitter, Max, tweeted this.
00:17:52 I retweeted him.
00:17:54 They really want these guys to break their neck
00:17:56 because they do not like them
00:17:58 bracing for safety on the hang on the rim.
00:18:00 Like, what do you want them to do?
00:18:02 You want them to let go and do a backflip?
00:18:04 [laughter]
00:18:06 Yeah.
00:18:08 Excuse me.
00:18:10 I'm sorry. I'm taking away from Chris Robb's praise.
00:18:12 Somebody replied to this with-
00:18:14 Hold on. I have to pull it up for the full effect.
00:18:16 Pull it up.
00:18:18 This was
00:18:20 someone's response to me tweeting about how cool this was
00:18:22 and how much it was to see.
00:18:24 [laughter]
00:18:26 Literally a bounce pass.
00:18:28 Literally a bounce pass.
00:18:30 In his defense, it is literally a bounce pass.
00:18:32 But he split two defenders here. It was a nice read.
00:18:34 And again, Celtic should play through more.
00:18:36 Celtic's second assist-
00:18:38 or Chris Robb's second assist, I should say.
00:18:40 Sets a screen for Derek White. Top of the key.
00:18:42 Finds Chris Robb's Porzingis at the top.
00:18:44 Jalen Brown fakes the handoff.
00:18:46 Finds him inside.
00:18:48 Beautiful pass. Nice Jalen dunk.
00:18:50 Chris Robb's Porzingis is a great passer.
00:18:52 And not only that,
00:18:54 he is tall enough where he can make passes up high.
00:18:56 He is skilled enough to make them down low.
00:18:58 He can see around guys.
00:19:00 He can make the reads.
00:19:02 He sets a screen, and you have to account for his three-point shooting.
00:19:04 He's great cutting and being aggressive around the rim.
00:19:06 We just did a video on it.
00:19:08 His skill set
00:19:10 is so unique
00:19:12 and transforms this Celtic's offense so much
00:19:14 that it is
00:19:16 almost always
00:19:18 a bad idea to just have him
00:19:20 doing nothing. Right? Like, he's too good
00:19:22 for him just to be off the ball all the time.
00:19:24 Like, again, I don't know what his user's
00:19:26 percentage is. I'll look now while you're talking, and then
00:19:28 we'll wrap back around. But like,
00:19:30 it just feels like the Celtics should
00:19:32 go to him more in the role where he has
00:19:34 the ball in his hands making those reads. He's not
00:19:36 Jokic, but they should play him like
00:19:38 Jokic for larger
00:19:40 portions of the game than they currently do.
00:19:42 Yeah, you beat me to it. I'm
00:19:44 so pissed. Like, that was like your last
00:19:46 two sentences of what you said. I'm sorry.
00:19:48 It feels like I was in a draft
00:19:50 and I got sniped on what pick
00:19:52 I was going to take. I took Porzingis.
00:19:54 Yeah, it happened in real life. It was horrible.
00:19:56 But, I was
00:19:58 literally going to say, "Yeah, this must be what it's like to
00:20:00 have Jokic on your team. Just diamond guys
00:20:02 up out of that fake handoff, and
00:20:04 there's nothing anyone can do about it."
00:20:06 It is truly OP.
00:20:08 Overpowered, if you are really good at that.
00:20:10 Porzingis
00:20:12 has been far better than I
00:20:14 think anybody expected him to be
00:20:16 coming into the season. I thought
00:20:18 he would be good, but we didn't think he would be like
00:20:20 maybe they should do everything
00:20:22 through him good. And
00:20:24 I see
00:20:26 the vision. I see
00:20:28 how you can make things easier on Jalen
00:20:30 Brown and Jason Tatum by just having them run
00:20:32 around instead of having to create shots.
00:20:34 Why do that? Just have them play wide
00:20:36 receiver and beat the defender without the ball.
00:20:38 Porzingis
00:20:40 is just...
00:20:42 Also, by
00:20:44 having him set guys up. Now, it's not the only
00:20:46 thing they should ever do. But, by making
00:20:48 it a larger part of your offense, you're
00:20:50 creating more of those times where the
00:20:52 defense has to make a decision. They're like,
00:20:54 "Do we send two at him? Yes or no?"
00:20:56 And if they do,
00:20:58 someone's open. Who's it going to be?
00:21:00 Who's getting the free shot?
00:21:02 That should be as simple as it comes
00:21:04 and it should be a staple
00:21:06 of their late game offense, whether it's him
00:21:08 or Jason Tatum. Why can't Jason Tatum
00:21:10 do the fake handoff?
00:21:12 Yeah. No, I agree with you.
00:21:14 Kristof's usage percentage, I was
00:21:16 looking it up. It's at 22%
00:21:18 for context. Other
00:21:20 22% usage rate guys.
00:21:22 And this is filtered by at least 200 minutes played
00:21:24 this season. At least 10 games played.
00:21:26 Bobby Portis,
00:21:28 Mo Wagner, Ben Matherin,
00:21:30 Michael Porter Jr., Devin
00:21:32 Vassell. And there's some good
00:21:34 players like Devin Vassell, like Shaden Sharps
00:21:36 around there, Mluchevic is around
00:21:38 there. However, he's third on
00:21:40 the Celtics.
00:21:42 Behind Tatum and Brown, obviously Tatum.
00:21:44 His usage
00:21:46 percentage is at, if the page
00:21:48 stops glitching, I believe he's above 30
00:21:50 right now. No, he's at
00:21:52 28.9. Brown's at 27.9.
00:21:54 Then a huge dip off to 22
00:21:56 at Porzingis. And then the
00:21:58 rest of the starters are at 17.6, 17.5
00:22:00 for Holiday White, you know,
00:22:02 progressively, respectively.
00:22:04 But, feels like
00:22:06 Kristof's usage percentage should be a lot
00:22:08 closer to Jalen's than it should the next
00:22:10 guy. That's not where it's at right now.
00:22:12 Kristof's is too good.
00:22:14 And, again, Jalen
00:22:16 and Jason are the best players. It is what it is.
00:22:18 Impact?
00:22:20 Kristof's.
00:22:22 Up here. Like, his impact
00:22:24 on the Celtics offense is
00:22:26 so, so, so good.
00:22:28 I want to see on/off
00:22:30 numbers for the Celtics.
00:22:32 I'll let you talk again and I can look. But, I bet
00:22:34 you money that the on/off
00:22:36 numbers...
00:22:38 Sorry. I have the talking
00:22:40 stick. Just, just...
00:22:42 I'm going to say, I'm going to go back to you and I'm going to look this up.
00:22:44 No, I wanted you to make your point. I was just...
00:22:46 I thought the wording was...
00:22:48 That the Celtics offense
00:22:50 with Kristof's on/off
00:22:52 the court, I bet his on/off numbers
00:22:54 are closer
00:22:56 to Tatum's than Brown's. Do you know what I'm saying?
00:22:58 Tatum's... I don't think that's outrageous.
00:23:00 Especially after watching them play Orlando. Once he went
00:23:02 out of the game, they had nothing.
00:23:04 They were lost out there, dude. They needed
00:23:06 their rescue guide dog. I don't think
00:23:08 that should...
00:23:10 I don't think that should be lost in translation, too.
00:23:12 There's no excuse for the way the Celtics ended
00:23:14 that Magic game. But you could see the difference
00:23:16 in offense with and without Kristof's on the floor.
00:23:18 They were lost. They had nothing. And, again,
00:23:20 that's not an excuse. They need to be better with him and not out there
00:23:22 because they have the talent to be.
00:23:24 You can pretty clearly see
00:23:26 how impactful
00:23:28 Kristof's forzing is
00:23:30 on this team's offense.
00:23:32 Yeah.
00:23:34 It's true. He's awesome.
00:23:36 He does everything.
00:23:38 He can make decisions
00:23:40 from the high post. He can make
00:23:42 threes. He can create out
00:23:44 of the post. And he does super cool dunks.
00:23:46 Super cool dunks.
00:23:48 I do wish
00:23:50 he was a bit more physical on the defensive glass
00:23:52 because even before he went out of the game,
00:23:54 they were struggling to
00:23:56 limit Orlando to just
00:23:58 one shot. But,
00:24:00 if that's the one flaw,
00:24:02 fine. But, I mean, that is a
00:24:04 tough flaw to have. I mean, I hate watching offensive
00:24:06 rebounds.
00:24:08 Yeah. No, you're totally right.
00:24:10 Um,
00:24:12 hopefully I don't look stupid here. With Kristof's
00:24:14 on the court,
00:24:16 Celtics offensive rating is
00:24:18 116. Without him, it's 114
00:24:20 too. So, there is a significant gap here.
00:24:22 Celtics offense with Jalen Brown
00:24:24 on the court is a 114.6.
00:24:26 Without him, it's a 116.9.
00:24:28 So, the Celtics offense is better with
00:24:30 Jalen Brown off the court. And it's worse with Kristof's
00:24:32 off the court.
00:24:34 This isn't a knock on Jalen Brown. I don't want to
00:24:36 turn into that because a lot of that is
00:24:38 Jason Tatum is not equipped to run the
00:24:40 starless lineups. And he's been doing that
00:24:42 a decent amount and hasn't gone well. So, I think that's where
00:24:44 a lot of the stats come from. However,
00:24:46 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
00:24:48 Jalen Brown is not equipped is
00:24:50 what I meant.
00:24:52 But yeah, dude. It's such a
00:24:54 different team.
00:24:56 Um,
00:24:58 with, uh, Kristof's
00:25:00 on the court. Sorry, I'm like, I'm trying to look at another
00:25:02 stat here. Stats are the absolute
00:25:04 worst thing ever. Because you really, I mean,
00:25:06 you got lucky that time. But sometimes you think
00:25:08 you have something. And they're like, actually, you're a
00:25:10 f*cking moron.
00:25:12 You got rocks for brains, buddy.
00:25:14 Yeah, man. No, no. Kristof's, he's been
00:25:18 a game changer this year. I mean, we talked about it before
00:25:20 the season. We were like, he's going to
00:25:22 completely change the way the Celtics play offense.
00:25:24 And guess what he's done? He's completely changed the way
00:25:26 the Celtics can play offense, but they should
00:25:28 do it more. Was it you that said they
00:25:30 miss, uh, they miss Drew Holiday a
00:25:32 lot today on the glass?
00:25:34 Not on the glass, but in the physicality center,
00:25:36 which I guess you could translate it to that. Yeah.
00:25:38 I forget who I saw say that,
00:25:40 but they're right. So shout out to them.
00:25:42 It was me. I said it when we just recorded.
00:25:44 I said Drew Holiday. I said the Celtics
00:25:46 got beat on physicality, and Drew Holiday
00:25:48 brings a lot of that by guarding the figs.
00:25:50 No, I know you said that,
00:25:54 but I do think somebody actually, like,
00:25:56 tweeted the rebounding directly
00:25:58 would have been something he would have helped, which is
00:26:00 fact. Sure. I can, like, when
00:26:02 I saw Drew Holiday's ankle was hurting him, I did
00:26:04 not think, "Sh*t, they're not getting any
00:26:06 rebounds today." But it might actually be
00:26:08 a little bit of a correlation.
00:26:10 Yeah. I
00:26:12 agree. I mean, the Celtics
00:26:14 just got f*cking killed by the Magic.
00:26:16 We can call this a murder.
00:26:18 Anyways, to wrap this,
00:26:20 play through Chris Topps more. That is
00:26:22 that is
00:26:24 our decree. And if Chris Topps turns out
00:26:26 to be up for the season, tank.
00:26:28 Back to the Grizzlies point.
00:26:30 Sh*t!
00:26:32 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
00:26:34 Next thing we have is Kevin Garnett,
00:26:36 Celtics legend,
00:26:38 talking
00:26:40 about the current state of the NBA. Now,
00:26:42 not in a way you might think. He defended
00:26:44 the current NBA. I believe this was on,
00:26:46 I'm not sure if this was on his podcast, but... KG
00:26:48 certified, I think. Yes, KG.
00:26:50 The problem, I think... Maybe not.
00:26:52 I'm telling an ESPN person. I don't know.
00:26:54 He said it. Yes.
00:26:56 KG said this. "The problem, I think, with
00:26:58 today is that we are so caught up on the
00:27:00 yesteryear of the culture and the history that built the
00:27:02 league that, bro, we're missing out on the
00:27:04 greatness that's right in front of us. LeBron James
00:27:06 is 30 f*cking years old
00:27:08 doing something we ain't even seen.
00:27:10 We got a whole 7'6" Frenchman in the
00:27:12 goddamn league. He's a rookie looking like
00:27:14 year 2, 3 player, looking like he's a guard.
00:27:16 He nutmegged a guard. Listen,
00:27:18 Wilt Chamberlain is rolling over in his grave right now
00:27:20 if we told him that a 6'10" playing center
00:27:22 jumps this high
00:27:24 and is the blah, blah, blah.
00:27:26 I mean, this is something that I talk about a lot
00:27:28 on this podcast
00:27:30 in general. Like, I
00:27:32 cannot f*cking stand that. Well, back in this
00:27:34 day, like I saw someone today, I
00:27:36 posted the injury of the Christoph Sporzingis
00:27:38 getting hurt. He just goes,
00:27:40 "This dude wouldn't f*cking survive in the 90s."
00:27:42 I'm like, "He wouldn't, dude. He'd be f*cked."
00:27:44 I was like, "Bro, he tweaked his leg
00:27:46 running. Like, what the f*ck is wrong?"
00:27:48 The olden crowd that's like,
00:27:50 "Oh, this, this, this." Well, guess what?
00:27:52 Go watch f*cking replays of that. Don't watch.
00:27:54 If you're just gonna complain, f*ck off.
00:27:56 That's one of my biggest
00:27:58 pet peeves in the league. So I agree with KG.
00:28:00 Shout out.
00:28:02 KG's always
00:28:04 a tree. I love KG.
00:28:06 I love KG. What a beast.
00:28:08 I think the league's fine. I wish
00:28:10 there was more diversity in the way
00:28:12 the game is played, though. But in terms
00:28:14 of the talent in the league, you really can't argue with it.
00:28:16 Like, I don't really hate on the levels of
00:28:18 talent. I'm actually excited for expansion. I think
00:28:20 the amount of
00:28:22 sheer stars in this league and
00:28:24 players that can contribute is
00:28:26 too high on a lot of teams.
00:28:28 And it makes it so expansion is actually
00:28:30 gonna really, really help the league. Because you're
00:28:32 gonna see even more players become
00:28:34 respected household names.
00:28:36 But, I don't
00:28:38 know, man. I don't like how
00:28:40 everyone just does the three-point thing now.
00:28:42 It's boring.
00:28:44 It's boring, but it's not. I'm always gonna like basketball.
00:28:46 But if you watch,
00:28:48 and maybe this'll come back with
00:28:50 expansion, because they won't be able to just
00:28:52 pick and choose what guys they want, because
00:28:54 there's gonna be more teams
00:28:56 going after guys. There's gonna be less
00:28:58 talent available.
00:29:00 Pretty much is the whole point of expansion.
00:29:02 But if you go and watch a game from, like,
00:29:04 go on the NBA's
00:29:06 YouTube. They have the whole
00:29:08 LeBron Heat debut, when they
00:29:10 played the Celtics in 2010
00:29:12 in the fall. And
00:29:14 the game is just way different.
00:29:16 And all of these different type
00:29:18 of players were able
00:29:20 to have roles within
00:29:22 the game. And that just doesn't really
00:29:24 happen today.
00:29:26 Because it's just like, you're either the star
00:29:28 or you're a sit-in-the-corner-and-shoot-threes
00:29:30 guy, like it's 2K. Now, listen,
00:29:32 it's not terrible. Like, I'm not
00:29:34 saying, like, this league sucks
00:29:36 and nobody should watch
00:29:38 it. No. But I think it was, like,
00:29:40 almost more fun, because you'd have, like,
00:29:42 I don't know. For example,
00:29:44 Kendrick Perkins was, like, a long-time
00:29:46 starter in the NBA.
00:29:48 If he was coming up today, he wouldn't
00:29:50 have even got a chance.
00:29:52 Because he can't
00:29:54 shoot threes. Now, if he grew up today,
00:29:56 he'd probably have to learn differently.
00:29:58 Which is, like, a whole 'nother discussion. But
00:30:00 just, like, in a vacuum,
00:30:02 the diversity in play styles just does not
00:30:04 exist, which makes it a bit flat.
00:30:06 But in terms of talent, the
00:30:08 reason why the league is able
00:30:10 to just kind of nullify
00:30:12 all of those diverse play styles is because there
00:30:14 are guys like Wemby and Chet
00:30:16 that are just freaks,
00:30:18 and they're talented, and they're skilled.
00:30:20 So there's good sides
00:30:22 to all of it, but I don't know.
00:30:24 I know what you mean. Like,
00:30:26 I understand it, but I also just think that's
00:30:28 a matter of
00:30:30 the league naturally...
00:30:32 It evolves.
00:30:34 It evolves, but it also, like,
00:30:36 I don't want to, like,
00:30:38 say it's all analytics, but, like,
00:30:40 the league... Well, analytics suck, so you better watch
00:30:42 your tone. Well, it's just like,
00:30:44 the league emphasizes
00:30:46 what will get them the most efficient
00:30:48 scoring, the most efficient defense.
00:30:50 And so, people who can shoot threes,
00:30:52 I mean, now,
00:30:54 this is bold,
00:30:56 three is worth
00:30:58 more than two. So, like, they're just
00:31:00 naturally going to find ways.
00:31:02 They're just naturally going to find ways.
00:31:04 You know I have a whole vendetta where
00:31:06 I'm like, listen, yes, it's worth more
00:31:08 than two, but if you're making less of them, you're
00:31:10 creating more chances for the other team to get out and
00:31:12 run, and you have more... Essentially
00:31:14 is you have more misses.
00:31:16 Sure, but you're also
00:31:18 giving yourself...
00:31:20 Now that's not necessarily, like,
00:31:22 the truest thing ever. Like, they're becoming so
00:31:24 good at shooting threes, where it's
00:31:26 kind of just making that not even
00:31:28 matter as much. And also, I would argue you have
00:31:30 a better chance to grab offensive
00:31:32 rebounds on threes than twos.
00:31:34 The bounces are more random.
00:31:36 Exactly. So, I think that accounts for... Anyway, regardless,
00:31:38 I just...
00:31:40 I hate people... And I understand
00:31:42 yours isn't a complaint, it's just, you know,
00:31:44 it'd be cool to see this, blah blah blah. The people who
00:31:46 complain and bitch, just stop fucking
00:31:48 watching. Like, that annoys me. So,
00:31:50 shoutout KG. Back in my day.
00:31:52 I will say, it's also great for former
00:31:54 players like KG to support
00:31:56 the way the league is changing and build up
00:31:58 players rather than just constantly... It's true! They're always
00:32:00 fucking hating. Like, all these guys are like,
00:32:02 "This guy sucks!"
00:32:04 "Back in my day, he wouldn't have
00:32:06 lasted." It's like, well...
00:32:08 Like, if you were in today's
00:32:10 day, you wouldn't even be in the league, because you can't shoot
00:32:12 threes. That's what I'm saying.
00:32:14 It's good to see KG
00:32:16 shouting out... Remember when
00:32:18 a big guy could shoot threes? It was almost
00:32:20 like a circus trick. It was like, "Oh,
00:32:22 look at this!" Literally, yeah.
00:32:24 Now it's just like, "Oh, he can't
00:32:26 shoot threes?"
00:32:28 No, yeah, I agree.
00:32:30 Shoutout KG, and we can
00:32:32 move on to check in with our
00:32:34 emails here. I believe we have a
00:32:36 few from RJ. Shocker, shoutout RJ.
00:32:38 Sorry, I got the hiccup. Shoutout RJ.
00:32:40 That's what I was trying to say.
00:32:42 So let's jump in here.
00:32:44 I'll throw the InPapnito colors on the
00:32:46 screen. Shoutout InPapnito, if you'd like to get
00:32:48 yourself some popcorn. Comment "What's Poppin'?"
00:32:50 on the video, and get yourself
00:32:52 a spot on the
00:32:54 wheel, a chance to win.
00:32:56 This is from two days ago. RJ saying,
00:32:58 "What's poppin'? Celtics never trail
00:33:00 and win. Evening, guys. Easier to write a piece
00:33:02 after a three-point win than a three-point loss.
00:33:04 I was audio-only tonight, thanks to
00:33:06 it being our national game, but some observations
00:33:08 from the airwaves. This is about the Bucs game.
00:33:10 Jalen Brown played like an all-pro guard
00:33:12 tonight with his eight assists and only one turnover, and the Celtics
00:33:14 needed it. The bench one boy stepped
00:33:16 up with Al Salmon-Payton, scoring double figures,
00:33:18 and with Al being number two in assists with six.
00:33:20 Sam Hauser, dunk champ, it's
00:33:22 coming. Sean Grandy was partnered with Abby Chim
00:33:24 tonight and sucked less. Abby still got
00:33:26 sideline timing, but she's getting better.
00:33:28 On the video replay
00:33:30 front, how much was
00:33:32 Brooke Lopez pulling out his Bill Lambier impersonation
00:33:34 tonight? A lot. Him and
00:33:36 Bill Wagner, just to tie it into the
00:33:38 recent game. Annoying. Annoying.
00:33:40 Annoying. And how badly
00:33:42 was Kristop screwed on the sequence
00:33:44 that got him a technical?
00:33:46 The sequence just felt like there was
00:33:48 a lot of players complaining in a short span
00:33:50 and he just got the bad end of the stick.
00:33:52 He was complaining, but it felt like everyone
00:33:54 was, and the refs were just fed
00:33:56 up enough at the point he
00:33:58 was yelling.
00:34:00 A lot of techs in the Magic game, too. They were
00:34:02 fucking handing them out. Lame.
00:34:04 Lame.
00:34:06 A little love
00:34:08 to the lobster lads of the main Celtics.
00:34:10 I love lobster lads. That's fire.
00:34:12 Taking down the Greensboro storm tonight.
00:34:14 105-102. J.D. Davidson had
00:34:16 39 points and 8 assists.
00:34:18 Nathan Knight had 6 points and 8 rebounds.
00:34:20 On the Mishketa put up 12 points, 5 boards,
00:34:22 4 blocks. Jordan Walsh had
00:34:24 a rough shooting tonight with
00:34:26 5 points, 2 of 10 overall, but he
00:34:28 contributed 7 rebounds. Enjoy your turkey days,
00:34:30 even if Sam is counting the calories in the side
00:34:32 dishes. Meanwhile, RJ.
00:34:34 We didn't do anything crazy.
00:34:36 Also, most of the stuff
00:34:38 on Thanksgiving is relatively healthy.
00:34:40 Like, you're literally eating
00:34:42 turkey, which has nothing to it, and then
00:34:44 vegetables. Sure.
00:34:46 I suppose. To a degree. Well, maybe not
00:34:48 stuffing. I don't know. I don't know about stuffing.
00:34:50 From what you've
00:34:52 described it as,
00:34:54 it might not be very healthy.
00:34:56 Stuffing's great. It's great.
00:34:58 It's just bread. I think the main Celtics should
00:35:00 change their name to the Lobster Lads, actually.
00:35:02 I like that. I think that is literally a better
00:35:04 name than what they have. It's good.
00:35:06 It should be the fucking Red Claws again.
00:35:08 Anyways. No, like literally, if they
00:35:10 were the Lobster Lads of Maine, that would be a fire.
00:35:12 Agree.
00:35:14 I agree. What's poppin'?
00:35:16 Some turkey day truth. This was 3
00:35:18 AM this morning. Shout out RJ. This is on Thanksgiving.
00:35:20 Evening, gents. I hope
00:35:22 you enjoyed trip to fan with your families.
00:35:24 I watched the Milwaukee game tonight, and
00:35:26 if this game doesn't shut off the Jalen haters,
00:35:28 nothing will.
00:35:30 His ease with the ball and the fun he was
00:35:32 having getting his teammates involved was really
00:35:34 a joy to watch. As much as everyone lost their minds at the
00:35:36 Sam Hauser dunk, the draw dropper to me
00:35:38 was the give and go Al Uppi and KP executed
00:35:40 at the 421 mark in the second quarter. Agree.
00:35:42 We've watched that play a million times now.
00:35:44 This easy flow of the entire
00:35:46 play brought back memories of first year
00:35:48 Burton and Archibald playing together
00:35:50 at some high praise. For the past
00:35:52 two years, I've been saying that Brown's development path has
00:35:54 followed Paul Pierce's and that the next big
00:35:56 hurdle will be learning to pass more efficiently rather than
00:35:58 force his way through a double or triple team.
00:36:00 We saw evidence of the new look
00:36:02 Brown against the Bucks. The only time he reached
00:36:04 into his bag was one shot in the third quarter,
00:36:06 and that was because the shot clock was running down
00:36:08 and he was only covered by Marsh on Bo Champ.
00:36:10 The rest of his offense was on
00:36:12 clean look threes, dunks and lay ins.
00:36:14 I'm looking forward to the Orlando game Friday morning.
00:36:16 I think it could be a lot of fun. Well, sorry
00:36:18 RJ. We that's where you're wrong, kiddo.
00:36:20 Yeah, sorry. Sorry.
00:36:22 And just, you know,
00:36:24 because, uh,
00:36:26 why not? You know, let's have a little joy
00:36:28 in our life again, shall we? Let's just
00:36:30 let's Jalen Brown alley of
00:36:32 Yeah, it'll be for audio
00:36:34 listeners and we're watching this.
00:36:36 I'm gonna I'm actually going to link this
00:36:38 on my dashboard so we can pull this up
00:36:40 every once in a while, but
00:36:42 for audio listeners, just so you can enjoy
00:36:44 to Christoph's ball, Jalen
00:36:46 Brown running to the alley of Christoph's
00:36:48 dunk. Yeah, and
00:36:50 then we can't forget about this
00:36:52 again. Christoph's
00:36:54 just
00:36:56 Christoph's hype.
00:36:58 Um,
00:37:00 sorry to get derailed,
00:37:02 but if the clips there you gotta watch
00:37:04 I did. Uh, what's
00:37:06 it make? I don't remember what it was. Sorry.
00:37:08 I got distracted. What was that last email about?
00:37:10 Uh,
00:37:12 some turkey truth.
00:37:16 Brown's development following Paul Pierce
00:37:18 Brown and Paul playmaker.
00:37:20 I don't know. It was just like a quick if
00:37:22 that game put tape over their mouths
00:37:24 and today ripped it off
00:37:26 the jail and haters mounts their back.
00:37:28 Yeah, unfortunately, sorry
00:37:30 I'm lame. No, no,
00:37:32 no. Uh, what's popping? Give and
00:37:34 go. This is from an hour ago. This was right after
00:37:36 the Orlando game. Hey guys,
00:37:38 something a little different today. Stream of consciousness
00:37:40 style for you. First quarter
00:37:42 Jalen is Mr. First quarter of 12 points.
00:37:44 Great start. Sees forcing turnovers.
00:37:46 This is just like a recap of the game. This will be funny.
00:37:48 Uh, Caesar forcing turnovers.
00:37:50 Nice reversal. Still rough on the offensive boards.
00:37:52 Looks like the
00:37:54 Caucasus Mountains double bigs
00:37:56 of corner.
00:37:58 That's fire. How is
00:38:02 the Celtic shooting? 79% from the
00:38:04 line looks so shaky. Yeah.
00:38:06 Second quarter. Caesar better with
00:38:08 Pritchard initiating offense than Tatum. I don't know if the
00:38:10 magic defense
00:38:12 pressure but purchase handles better. Green
00:38:14 Cornet day? Question mark
00:38:16 Brown 12 Cornet 8D white 6
00:38:18 after 16 minutes. We should have known that
00:38:20 when Tatum wasn't scoring early, it was gonna be bad.
00:38:22 I hate these whammo slip and slides
00:38:24 courts agree. Definitely agreeing.
00:38:26 Cornet day 10, 2 and 2 blocks at the
00:38:28 half. Magic are committing
00:38:30 to defending the three point line and higher to stop the Celtics.
00:38:32 Drew Carter continues not to suck.
00:38:34 This is high praise. Drew Carter's been good. Enjoy
00:38:36 his great made a
00:38:38 he made a
00:38:40 always sunny reference today. It was great.
00:38:42 He didn't scowl. That moron had
00:38:44 no idea what he was talking about.
00:38:46 Third quarter. You have to watch the show to know
00:38:48 what he's talking about. I know. Like a
00:38:50 one of the most popular memes like ever.
00:38:52 I know dude.
00:38:54 Third quarter roommate basketball with KP
00:38:56 and JB. Then the Celtics pissed away
00:38:58 12 point lead in two minutes.
00:39:00 Magic didn't take plays off. Sees kind of did
00:39:02 exactly when does Missoula call a timeout?
00:39:04 10 points allowed 17 points straight.
00:39:06 At some point you gotta get the guys in and have them try something
00:39:08 different. I understand
00:39:10 but then he did and then it didn't work.
00:39:12 I don't subscribe to the Missoula's fault
00:39:14 theory and I know that's not what you're doing here. I do. But yeah
00:39:16 the Wagner brothers are the world's tallest
00:39:18 any impersonators that are so punchably
00:39:20 annoying. Speaking of annoying
00:39:22 JB is two for six and it's free throws today
00:39:24 yuck. Fourth quarter Celtics are behind
00:39:26 on three point shooting free throw shooting and rebounding
00:39:28 fix one of those Celtics win.
00:39:30 Percent bricks is free throws and after JB goes over
00:39:32 to hack a Celtic.
00:39:34 So that's when you call the timeout trailing by 11.
00:39:36 Good to know. Again. It's
00:39:38 not Missoula's fault in my opinion. Tata missed it.
00:39:40 702 is what I'm calling it for Orlando final thoughts.
00:39:42 I wonder what this game looks like if the Celtics
00:39:44 applied the press when they were up by 12 instead of when
00:39:46 they were trailing by 12. This isn't sour grapes.
00:39:48 We've talked about the Celtics being able to kick a
00:39:50 team when they're down. I'd like to see an action how coach
00:39:52 Missoula talked about his curveball. He needs to
00:39:54 remember that you can use it as a strikeout pitch to
00:39:56 share time for a late lunch. Be well
00:39:58 RJ. Yeah, that's that's that's sort
00:40:00 of the real time reaction of how the game went.
00:40:02 That's a good point.
00:40:04 Any thoughts? It's like he
00:40:06 had the script to the show.
00:40:08 Yeah. Why is
00:40:10 high post such passing such an
00:40:12 infrequent item? We're at the same blank. A
00:40:14 quick addendum to plays the KP to
00:40:16 Brown pass at the start of the third and then
00:40:18 cornet hitting Hauser in the back or that was great too.
00:40:20 We should watch that at the high
00:40:22 post. Yes,
00:40:24 both were effective against a team like Orlando
00:40:26 that likes to play up on three point shooters. Why don't the
00:40:28 Celtics build it into their offense more? That's all
00:40:30 agree. I mean,
00:40:32 this is we literally
00:40:34 talked about this, right? This is our whole
00:40:36 thing. Yeah, we're like, dude, poor thing. You
00:40:38 should play like Yoke.
00:40:40 Agree. If you should be a white
00:40:42 guy, they should play the same.
00:40:44 But we can watch
00:40:46 this. We can watch the cornet assist to
00:40:48 just because I got it up quickly. Another
00:40:50 great example of how the Celtics could play
00:40:52 out of Porzingis. And I mean, in this case, Luke,
00:40:54 but Joe Engel so
00:40:56 worried about how the three point line has was
00:40:58 able to cut back to our cornet, finds him on a nice pass
00:41:00 like watch watch how another
00:41:02 10 minutes. Yeah, it
00:41:04 took him a while. It was scoring's hard,
00:41:06 Sam. Look
00:41:08 how easy I mean, I know.
00:41:10 I know. Sam Houser
00:41:12 watch the fake though, like Ingles is
00:41:14 so worried about him coming up to shoot a three
00:41:16 that it's just one fake and he's gone for a dunk
00:41:18 and great pass by cornet.
00:41:20 Yeah, it's good offense, right?
00:41:22 I mean, just couldn't do that
00:41:24 more often. Unfortunately,
00:41:26 yeah, thank you
00:41:28 RJ. Thank you to the emails and we will move
00:41:30 on to the NBA portion
00:41:32 of the show. Checking
00:41:34 in around the league will do our standings
00:41:36 check in as per usual. Let me pull up
00:41:38 our standings because I know RJ has
00:41:40 been doing some updating just to see
00:41:42 and then we can also look at, you know, who's on
00:41:44 win streaks, who's on losing streaks, etc,
00:41:46 etc. Standing. So you
00:41:48 put the sheet about that because that's always
00:41:50 fun. So updated
00:41:52 NBA standing sheets.
00:41:54 Sam and I still on track in the
00:41:56 Eastern Conference.
00:41:58 Right now, Orlando jump
00:42:00 Philly with this win
00:42:02 in the standings. Philly is
00:42:04 colder after their hot start.
00:42:06 Miami is soaring up the standings. Sam
00:42:08 and I both pegged the top 10
00:42:10 teams in the league pretty easily.
00:42:12 The only ones getting us right now, or I
00:42:14 should say the top
00:42:16 12 or so. The only things
00:42:18 getting us right now is Brooklyn is
00:42:20 slowly falling down the standings.
00:42:22 Um,
00:42:24 and we had them in the top 10, which is not
00:42:26 Bodewell for Tuesday, by the way.
00:42:28 No, unfortunately
00:42:30 not, but Toronto is
00:42:32 moving up a little, but we got
00:42:34 the rest of that pretty ironed out
00:42:36 as far as the West.
00:42:38 We're in shambles. Golden State
00:42:40 sucks there on the downturn. Clippers
00:42:42 are figuring out, but they're still down. And
00:42:44 then Houston also down, but still better
00:42:46 than expected in Minnesota.
00:42:48 And OKC just kind of like
00:42:50 dominating a little bit
00:42:52 out West as far as window
00:42:54 at last. Yeah, magic
00:42:56 on a
00:42:58 league best six game winning streak
00:43:00 tied with the Thunder, who also won six
00:43:02 straight sons are turning it around.
00:43:04 They have won five in a row. Clippers Pals
00:43:06 also turning around a little bit. Three and two there
00:43:08 to win zero for the Hornets
00:43:10 to for the heat
00:43:12 as far as losing streaks. Pistons
00:43:14 still take the cake at nine in a row. Now
00:43:16 sorry, Sam, this is a
00:43:18 row 12 in a row. Sorry.
00:43:20 Yes, 12 in a row
00:43:22 and the Spurs have also lost 10
00:43:24 in a row. Not good for them.
00:43:26 Bad
00:43:28 Nuggets are six
00:43:30 and four in their last time on the down
00:43:32 swing a little bit after their Red Hawks.
00:43:34 They what Murray's
00:43:36 out Murray is out, but still
00:43:38 they're struggling
00:43:40 a bit. The Warriors are two
00:43:42 and eight in their last 10 games. They are
00:43:44 now seven and
00:43:46 nine on the season after a five and one start
00:43:48 not very good in Golden State. Now
00:43:50 they do need dream on
00:43:52 you. Oh no, I'm not.
00:43:54 Let me preface
00:43:56 this by saying
00:43:58 having drew holiday
00:44:00 is worth it, but
00:44:02 it would have been
00:44:04 a lot of fun to be like
00:44:06 Warriors
00:44:08 so we're going to get a topic in the draft.
00:44:10 Yeah, like we could have had that
00:44:12 the whole season. Great
00:44:14 for content. We could have cared about the draft
00:44:16 like
00:44:18 we could have been like what if the Celtics trade
00:44:20 back a year and get Cooper flag?
00:44:22 We have you know how long it's been since we
00:44:24 talked about Cooper flag. We need to start talking about
00:44:26 Cooper flag again because the Celtics
00:44:28 embarrassed the fuck out of themselves. They
00:44:30 don't deserve this. Maybe it's like
00:44:32 maybe something should tank.
00:44:34 No, no, no,
00:44:36 but but what
00:44:38 if
00:44:40 yeah Warriors in the down swing
00:44:42 Wizards have lost seven
00:44:44 in a row. They're so awful, but like
00:44:46 to like as Patrick Beverly pointed
00:44:48 out last week, obviously the Wizards are bad.
00:44:50 Anything else around the league anything of note.
00:44:54 Let me check in with players
00:44:56 in the last three games just to see if anybody's
00:44:58 been red hot. That's a note that's worth talking
00:45:00 about Lamello
00:45:02 including that Celtics win. He is
00:45:04 averaging 35 7 and 10
00:45:06 over his last three. He's been red hot
00:45:08 Halliburton continues to be awesome
00:45:10 because he's awesome.
00:45:12 Anybody else Terry Scarlin
00:45:14 has been playing well lately.
00:45:16 I'm just I'm looking Victor
00:45:18 when the Yama still averaging four blocks
00:45:20 across his last three games.
00:45:22 That's nuts. Davis
00:45:24 is averaging 2.9 blocks a game this year
00:45:26 when bees at 2.6 steals
00:45:28 Shay leads the league.
00:45:30 Let's do a legal year check who leads
00:45:32 league in points Sam keep a quick
00:45:34 we'll rock through.
00:45:36 It is Joel Embiid 31.9
00:45:38 Lucas in third though. So that is
00:45:40 close.
00:45:42 I want to do field goal percentage, but
00:45:44 I can't do it without the
00:45:46 like all the randomness. So I'm going to go to
00:45:48 basketball reference instead because they filter
00:45:50 out all the non important stuff
00:45:52 who leads the league and field goal percentage among
00:45:54 qualified players
00:45:58 clue. We have made
00:46:00 fun of this man a lot on the show
00:46:02 in recent weeks
00:46:04 in recent weeks.
00:46:06 Yeah, who leads the league and field goal percentage?
00:46:08 It's not Zach Levine. Is it
00:46:10 no look up north Sam
00:46:12 Oh Pirtle
00:46:14 Jakob Pirtle does leave
00:46:16 I was so afraid I was like, wait a minute.
00:46:18 It can't be Julius Randall because
00:46:20 we are making no no no that man couldn't buy a basket
00:46:22 No Pirtle
00:46:24 shooting 70% from the field this year which is
00:46:26 who leads league in three point percentage
00:46:28 among qualified players. Oh, it's
00:46:30 um, is
00:46:32 it Isaiah Joe? He is
00:46:34 second at 51.8 but Kevin Durant
00:46:36 is shooting 52.2% for three this year
00:46:38 that's right checks. Chet said
00:46:40 like that a quote of nonsense
00:46:42 nuts who leaves league in
00:46:44 two point percentage spoiler. It's not
00:46:46 Jakob Pirtle
00:46:48 so
00:46:52 Porzingis is two at
00:46:54 71% on two number one is
00:46:56 Obi Toppin who's shooting
00:46:58 70 77% on twos but
00:47:00 we know ball because Chris stops his second
00:47:02 in the league in two point percentage at 71% so
00:47:04 we did a whole video on him being
00:47:06 we're beast we're sick. All
00:47:08 right. Uh who has attempted
00:47:10 the most free throws this it's a beat
00:47:12 this fucking question. Uh Booker
00:47:14 is shooting 94.6% of the line
00:47:16 he is leading on Yucca
00:47:18 Kangu also though is third in the league
00:47:20 in free throw percentage is 93 5
00:47:22 that's not that's just that's just kind of crazy
00:47:24 um okay total I'm gonna do
00:47:26 per game who's leading the league in rebounds
00:47:28 per game Sam
00:47:30 per game
00:47:32 per game
00:47:36 I don't think it's
00:47:38 it's not
00:47:40 it is not it is
00:47:42 you're close though similar caliber
00:47:44 player is it
00:47:46 13.1 a game
00:47:48 assists who leads the leagues in
00:47:50 assists at 12.3 a night
00:47:52 or is it
00:47:54 one and two right there Halbert and
00:47:56 12.3 Tre young 10 seven only
00:47:58 two in double digits who leads the league in steals
00:48:00 I think I told you already but you can guess
00:48:02 if you'd like I don't remember
00:48:04 Shay leaves Lillian steals at
00:48:06 2.4 he's also averaging point nine blocks
00:48:08 a game which is nuts
00:48:10 Marcus Martin fourth at four
00:48:12 at five
00:48:14 with also two and then Anthony Davis
00:48:16 and Brooke Lopez are tied at one with 2.9
00:48:18 that's it I do want to look at this real quick
00:48:20 we don't look at it but like Herb Jones
00:48:22 is averaging 2.1 steals in
00:48:24 1.6 blocks a game that's
00:48:26 fucking crazy you're doing the stocks
00:48:28 the stocks man he's
00:48:30 beast shout out him
00:48:32 but yeah that's it and
00:48:34 Dylan Brooks leads league in
00:48:36 fouls per game at 3.9 anyways that
00:48:38 can be far around the league
00:48:40 he's playing next thing we
00:48:42 have is some more Zach Levine update
00:48:44 and the update is
00:48:46 the Miami Heat don't want him
00:48:48 it says a lot
00:48:50 Miami
00:48:52 notorious for wanting literally
00:48:54 everybody and they don't want this man
00:48:56 what does that say
00:48:58 yeah it says
00:49:00 that's what it says is bomb
00:49:02 terrible
00:49:04 this is from
00:49:06 Barry Jackson I believe
00:49:08 is he Miami Herald
00:49:10 or is he yeah Miami Herald
00:49:12 yeah Barry Jackson says
00:49:14 the Heat have quote not been
00:49:18 pursuing a trade for the two
00:49:20 time all-star since it was reported the Bulls will be open
00:49:22 to moving him if the Heat aren't
00:49:24 interested I have some bad
00:49:26 news
00:49:28 get ready to learn
00:49:30 Chinese buddy
00:49:32 get ready to learn Chicago deep dish pal
00:49:34 because you ain't going anywhere
00:49:36 I would actually respect Levine if he got fat
00:49:38 like he just ate a bunch of pizza
00:49:40 and he committed he did the Zion where
00:49:42 it was like well
00:49:44 I'm just not going to play
00:49:46 because like half Levine's like
00:49:48 draw is that he's
00:49:50 really athletic and if he got
00:49:52 fat the Bulls would just be stuck paying him
00:49:56 yeah that's a mess if the Heat don't want
00:49:58 him that's that tells you something
00:50:00 next NBA thing we have is
00:50:02 yeah something funny that we saw
00:50:04 the header of
00:50:06 hoops hype's website right now
00:50:08 is I'll just let me show it
00:50:10 for the for the YouTube listeners it
00:50:12 is basically TJ Warren
00:50:14 he's back
00:50:16 Warren eyes NBA return I'm 100%
00:50:18 healthy now
00:50:20 TJ Warren who was the Celtics
00:50:22 target target in the off
00:50:24 season yeah we did a video on TJ
00:50:26 Warren and everything looks like Celtics
00:50:28 fuck that one up huh
00:50:30 basically
00:50:32 in an interview with hoop site he said
00:50:34 that he is 100% healthy he's back he said
00:50:36 it was he said he said I feel
00:50:38 like I was reaching a crazy pinnacle right around
00:50:40 the bubble it was a great situation unfortunately I had the
00:50:42 injuries and sent me back a bit etc
00:50:44 but it does kind of suck that he was hurt like
00:50:46 you never want to see injuries
00:50:48 it was just funny to see the headline of a page
00:50:50 TJ Warren dramatic
00:50:52 you know per headshot
00:50:54 back
00:50:56 good for you for being healthy
00:50:58 but it's just a funny thing funny
00:51:00 visual yeah
00:51:02 um
00:51:04 next thing we have is
00:51:06 Miami Heat fans
00:51:08 are convinced
00:51:10 that the Cavaliers have a hole in
00:51:12 their floor now
00:51:14 investigate Drew Smith
00:51:16 is out for the
00:51:18 loss after a sprained ACL and
00:51:20 the Heat fans are convinced that it's the Cavs fault
00:51:22 for covering up a hole
00:51:24 in their floor with a piece of paper
00:51:26 this is a genuine thing going on on
00:51:28 heat twitter now Sam do you want me to tell you what actually
00:51:30 happened yeah
00:51:32 well I want to I want to know
00:51:34 is there like an image that they have
00:51:36 there's a video okay there's a video
00:51:38 what happened Sam
00:51:40 is he fell into the sidelines
00:51:42 and he tripped off the side of the court
00:51:44 and they think there's a hole because
00:51:46 they don't understand that the court has a side to
00:51:48 it so yeah here's the video
00:51:50 of Drew Smith getting hurt oh so
00:51:52 they think that white piece of paper
00:51:54 between that guy's feet is a hole
00:51:56 in the floor look what happens
00:51:58 oh
00:52:00 his foot slides off
00:52:02 the side yeah
00:52:04 fans legitimately think that the
00:52:06 Cavaliers covered up a hole in the floor
00:52:08 with a piece of paper okay
00:52:10 so I'll say this genuine thing
00:52:12 the Cavaliers did not
00:52:14 cover up a hole with a piece of paper
00:52:16 however
00:52:18 I don't think that the Cavs should have an
00:52:20 elevated floor like this because it is
00:52:22 indeed dangerous because these guys go
00:52:24 flying all over the place now
00:52:26 I have not been down on the
00:52:28 garden floor in a little while like
00:52:30 around that area but I think it's like kind of
00:52:32 it's not really elevated it's just like
00:52:34 it's ever so slightly
00:52:36 like ramped yeah I don't
00:52:38 I don't think it's like that
00:52:40 there's no immediate drop off it's progressively
00:52:42 you know inclined
00:52:44 yeah I
00:52:46 don't think it's that bad
00:52:48 but yeah Heat fans like this is a
00:52:50 genuine thing all over Heat Twitter
00:52:52 that the Cavs covered it up
00:52:54 covered up a hole in the floor with a piece of paper
00:52:56 which is just like guys
00:52:58 come on
00:53:00 give me like some part of that brain
00:53:02 I was hoping it would be like just like
00:53:04 at the elbow there was
00:53:06 a hole in the floor and they thought there was
00:53:08 no it is
00:53:10 I respect it though like
00:53:12 I don't know I would love
00:53:14 Celtics fans made up conspiracies about stuff
00:53:16 Heat fans though
00:53:18 can't wait to hear what the Thunder fans come up
00:53:20 with
00:53:22 this is
00:53:24 Max Drew's on the three point line all over again
00:53:26 last thing we're talking
00:53:28 about today Kevin Garnett again
00:53:30 he's back KG
00:53:32 can't get enough KG
00:53:34 talk about Jordan Poole if you yeah you put it on here
00:53:36 I'll let you do the dramatic reading yeah I'm gonna make
00:53:38 sure Jack does not have to dodge
00:53:40 any bombs here so
00:53:42 KG certified he's sitting
00:53:44 with Paul Pierce two of the great Celtics
00:53:46 both have their numbers retired they were talking
00:53:48 hoops as they do on the
00:53:50 show now KG
00:53:52 is talking about Jordan Poole he says on Jordan
00:53:54 Poole they got your ass out of there
00:53:56 Golden State because he isn't falling
00:53:58 in line guys like this
00:54:00 don't belong in our league he does not
00:54:02 belong in the league
00:54:04 KG said he's the head
00:54:06 of a team P talking to Pierce
00:54:08 now I don't want my son
00:54:10 looking at no guy like that
00:54:12 looking up to anybody like him
00:54:14 you see how he's talking
00:54:16 to teammates shut up my
00:54:18 guy this is my team I've got it buddy
00:54:20 joining the joint
00:54:22 throwing the towel snorting
00:54:24 you can say whatever you want
00:54:26 about me but I ain't never disrespected
00:54:28 the game and I ain't never
00:54:30 disrespected the position of being
00:54:32 a leader and KG
00:54:34 is a great point of course I think we pulled
00:54:36 up the video a couple pods ago of Jordan
00:54:38 Poole just waving off the whole team in the time out
00:54:40 him not paying attention
00:54:42 to the coach I would hate being
00:54:44 teammates with this guy Jordan Poole is the guy that you
00:54:46 play pickup with and he just throws
00:54:48 up shots and doesn't look to move the ball
00:54:50 and you're like wow we could probably play
00:54:52 so much better if the ball just popped around
00:54:54 and you could still get shots you would just get better
00:54:56 shots not have to work hard
00:54:58 now
00:55:00 the Wizards fans fucking hate
00:55:02 this guy they hate him
00:55:04 they and I wouldn't
00:55:06 blame if Jordan was on my team I'd be very
00:55:08 upset I still can't believe my team
00:55:10 let Jordan pool get a ring shooting
00:55:12 39.5% from the field and 29.3%
00:55:14 from deep and good numbers
00:55:16 16 shots a game and
00:55:18 seven threes a game and the sad
00:55:20 thing is we all kind of had good expectations
00:55:22 for Jordan pool going in the season like he was
00:55:24 a high pick in fantasy basketball it was
00:55:26 like this guy's gonna put up numbers at
00:55:28 the very least he's gonna be able to help
00:55:30 this team not compete but
00:55:32 he's gonna like get his development
00:55:34 minutes at the helm and be able to
00:55:36 get used to being the focal point of an
00:55:38 opposing defense
00:55:40 now instead
00:55:42 instead you're watching
00:55:44 a lot of nonsense
00:55:46 you're watching a lot of plays
00:55:48 a lot of plays like this one now we'll pull it up
00:55:50 we'll go full screen now here you
00:55:52 can see now actually I'm gonna put it back
00:55:54 down because this is opposed to the Washington Wizards
00:55:56 subreddit yesterday of course
00:55:58 being Thanksgiving as we're recording this
00:56:00 and user jaywin2321
00:56:02 posts this video and says
00:56:04 thankful so on Thanksgiving
00:56:06 yeah you say what you're thankful
00:56:08 for and he picked this highlight of Jordan
00:56:10 pool to say hey thanks for
00:56:12 working really hard and helping the Wizards be a good team
00:56:14 yeah it's a cool spin move
00:56:18 and go up three
00:56:20 doesn't even hit the rim slams off the
00:56:22 backboard as hard as you could
00:56:24 that ball looked like somebody like hitting
00:56:26 the pavement that was the impact
00:56:28 that it had off the glass
00:56:30 and would you like to see Jordan Pool's reaction?
00:56:32 yeah to the play? what does he do?
00:56:36 doesn't give a shit
00:56:38 does he have a little like
00:56:40 he does he's like damn damn
00:56:42 thought I had that one
00:56:44 I was expecting
00:56:46 where I thought that was going I thought it was gonna be a make
00:56:48 and then the whole comment section saying
00:56:50 fuck this guy he's not good actually but he's just a prick
00:56:52 let's go to the replies
00:56:54 I won't pull it back up
00:56:56 that guy's post
00:56:58 had a caption to it
00:57:00 thankful for being amongst a community
00:57:02 with the strongest fans
00:57:04 sticking through with a team that hasn't made a conference finals
00:57:06 in 44 years
00:57:08 our time will come soon
00:57:10 somebody goes
00:57:12 slow-mo tank commanding is a thing of beauty
00:57:14 the move to get open was so clean
00:57:16 then watching the ball veer further and further left
00:57:18 into such a
00:57:20 violent brick
00:57:22 the way Jordan claps his hands with the
00:57:24 lifetime mentality
00:57:26 his confidence never wavering this is truly art
00:57:28 not a fan of pool but I think it's
00:57:32 fucked up everyone piling on him
00:57:34 I'm saving my hate for the people who
00:57:36 traded for him
00:57:38 prayers wizards
00:57:42 I was gonna say poor Jordan pool
00:57:46 poor wizards fans
00:57:48 poor wizards fans
00:57:50 I feel bad
00:57:52 for the wizards fans
00:57:54 KG is right by the way
00:57:56 you're not just getting punched in the face
00:57:58 I've done the joke about
00:58:00 the punch in the face power rank
00:58:02 before
00:58:04 but there is no
00:58:06 have you seen any change of character in Washington
00:58:08 that's like wow Draymond might have messed up
00:58:10 this is a really good guy
00:58:12 I think every wizards fan is secretly
00:58:14 wishing they could give Draymond
00:58:16 a high five
00:58:20 yeah I don't really have a
00:58:22 witty comeback for that
00:58:24 it's just kind of tough
00:58:26 sorry Washington
00:58:28 you gotta feel bad
00:58:30 I guess that's the perfect way for us to
00:58:32 roll into the rat list here though right
00:58:34 we get to uh
00:58:36 right after Jordan pool we'll talk about the rat list
00:58:38 would you like to kick it off
00:58:40 or do you want me to
00:58:42 you go ahead
00:58:44 I'll keep it brief
00:58:46 someone lit off a fucking firework
00:58:48 on Thanksgiving
00:58:50 for what tell me Sam what do you
00:58:52 light off a firework for on Thanksgiving
00:58:54 you have to celebrate that
00:58:56 you know you're really full
00:58:58 fuck
00:59:00 fireworks man out on fireworks fireworks
00:59:02 suck I understand
00:59:04 at least a little on the 4th of July because it's like a thing
00:59:06 yeah Thanksgiving
00:59:08 fuck off go home
00:59:10 or stay home or go to a home I don't care
00:59:12 fuck just go to a home
00:59:14 I like that
00:59:16 alright so uh
00:59:18 rat list is me
00:59:20 rat list is me
00:59:22 so today's Black Friday
00:59:24 sure
00:59:26 and I was at the gym today and I'm scrolling
00:59:28 through my phone as I do between exercises
00:59:30 so that my muscles cool off my muscles by the way
00:59:32 which have been very tired since coming back
00:59:34 from the trip because I didn't have a gym there so
00:59:36 I feel like a fucking corpse
00:59:38 but anyways
00:59:40 I'm on my phone I'm on Twitter and I see this ad
00:59:42 from our good friend Pete Rogers
00:59:44 Black Friday sale
00:59:46 and all the jersey designs I don't know if it's still going to be up
00:59:48 by the time you're listening to this but
00:59:50 Pete Rogers giving I think
00:59:52 30% off all the designs on the site
00:59:54 wow so what did I do I went on there
00:59:56 and I bought the
00:59:58 Porzingis one the one of him is
01:00:00 the unicorn
01:00:02 I tweeted the picture saying would when
01:00:04 Pete did the design I had no choice but to buy
01:00:06 this jersey I'm going to hang it right over my shoulder
01:00:08 here so I guess the second part doesn't necessarily
01:00:10 matter
01:00:12 but as a brain dead fool
01:00:14 I ordered an extra small jersey
01:00:18 I forgot to change it to a medium
01:00:22 what happened was I was about to select my size
01:00:24 and then I was like oh man what size
01:00:26 did I get before because
01:00:28 I really don't know what size I am for a lot
01:00:30 of things it ranges between a medium and a
01:00:32 large and so
01:00:34 I went back on my email to check the last time
01:00:36 I ordered from Pete Rogers
01:00:38 and it turns out they're both mediums
01:00:40 so I got the answer to my question
01:00:42 and then I immediately went back to the page
01:00:44 and I saw pay with Apple Pay and I was like
01:00:46 oh shit I don't have to put my information I just
01:00:48 bought the jersey
01:00:50 so yeah it turns out I bought an extra small
01:00:52 can you order another or is it sold out
01:00:54 I did contact Pete
01:00:56 it sounds like it's going to get resolved but I haven't gotten an email
01:00:58 back I DM'd him and he said he would help me
01:01:00 so tough
01:01:02 it would be kind of funny if I did
01:01:04 have like a toddler sized jersey on the hanger
01:01:06 that would
01:01:08 that would be fire
01:01:10 Ratlis my lighting right now if you're watching
01:01:12 on YouTube I look like a ghost but I just want to lean back
01:01:14 and talk like I look like
01:01:16 lean back
01:01:18 what I will Ratlis though
01:01:20 is drivers on Thanksgiving
01:01:22 okay dude
01:01:24 I don't understand
01:01:26 why
01:01:28 traffic exists
01:01:32 just go
01:01:34 just drive
01:01:36 just drive faster
01:01:38 why does traffic exist
01:01:40 just keep going
01:01:42 just go faster
01:01:44 like the traffic exists because we have a million idiots
01:01:46 going 55 in a 65
01:01:48 and then what makes it worse is the people who want to go fast
01:01:50 but get mad
01:01:52 versus the people who want to go fast and try to do something about it
01:01:54 I had some dude cut me off
01:01:56 in the middle lane to go over to the left lane
01:01:58 just for me to pass him
01:02:00 I gave him a fucking thumbs up on the way by
01:02:02 good for you you fucking moron
01:02:04 you're not going to fucking go anywhere either
01:02:06 like what are we doing here
01:02:08 it frustrates me so much
01:02:10 people can't fucking drive
01:02:12 and Thanksgiving made it worse because then you also
01:02:14 had some idiots who were like clearly drunk
01:02:16 like I can see you swerving like figuring out
01:02:18 which is like scary as another driver
01:02:20 on the road that you're a moron
01:02:22 oh my god it was pissing me off
01:02:24 on the way home I had to drive through Boston to get
01:02:26 home morons in the city morons
01:02:28 in the tunnel morons on my way back
01:02:30 when I get to my town
01:02:32 just fucking go like the speed limit
01:02:34 and if you're not going to go the speed limit
01:02:36 fuck off go home
01:02:38 like just
01:02:40 it was pissing me off man
01:02:42 it got me so mad yesterday
01:02:44 so uh
01:02:46 I just thought of this one and I can't
01:02:48 say that I saw any of it
01:02:50 and here's why so I don't use Instagram
01:02:52 anymore I had in Jack you haven't posted
01:02:54 on Instagram in a very long time from what I understand
01:02:56 but
01:02:58 I haven't posted I think my Instagram actually got
01:03:00 hacked so I can't even get in if I want to
01:03:02 but
01:03:04 I would imagine yesterday
01:03:06 on Thanksgiving
01:03:08 and these people are rat list
01:03:10 that there are a lot of
01:03:12 posts about I'm so
01:03:14 thankful for X
01:03:16 like whatever stories yeah
01:03:18 I'm thankful for you
01:03:20 it would be like their parents and like
01:03:22 they can't see it so they're just like posting
01:03:24 about like I'm thankful for you guys but
01:03:26 no like instead of just like
01:03:28 talking to them and being like hey
01:03:30 I appreciate you they're trying to
01:03:32 get likes on social media for it
01:03:34 yeah I thought about that yesterday well I
01:03:36 did a post yesterday and I was like I'm
01:03:38 thankful for Jack and
01:03:40 Jack didn't even appreciate it
01:03:42 you did a post yeah here I'll pull
01:03:44 it up I did a post yesterday
01:03:46 and hold on
01:03:48 where is it did I like it did I not see it
01:03:50 I don't remember if you liked it
01:03:52 I feel like I would have seen it
01:03:54 I was not home yesterday so there's a chance I didn't see it
01:03:56 yesterday
01:03:58 I got it I got it I got it
01:04:00 we did a whole thing on the show we did a whole thing on the pod
01:04:02 saying we're thankful yeah
01:04:04 but anyways yesterday I
01:04:06 think Jack and I actually wrapped
01:04:08 whatever we posted the poor thing is thing today
01:04:10 and I was on Twitter and I was like oh I forgot
01:04:12 to say I'm thankful for Jack so people will like
01:04:14 my tweet and then
01:04:16 I posted this and Jack didn't even like
01:04:18 it I responded
01:04:20 look at my response don't
01:04:24 look at my response I'll kill you
01:04:26 don't paint yourself with this picture
01:04:30 audio listeners are going to think
01:04:32 you made this whole post
01:04:34 you posted a picture of fucking Genki
01:04:36 don't let him
01:04:38 fool you
01:04:40 the worst part is the picture of Genki that you retweeted
01:04:42 doesn't even look like me
01:04:44 it's not even the one that looks like you
01:04:46 I have a bucket hat should I put it on
01:04:48 and see if I look like Genki
01:04:50 we'll go to the review hold on
01:04:52 Jack's going to get his
01:04:54 bucket hat I am pulling up the share
01:04:56 screen once again
01:04:58 actually I think we need to take the rat down
01:05:00 alright I've got it up
01:05:04 the bucket hat's too
01:05:06 small but it's too small
01:05:08 this doesn't look like me
01:05:10 it doesn't look like me
01:05:16 ladies and gentlemen just in case you didn't know
01:05:20 we are the dumbest of the dumb
01:05:22 can I put the headphones on over the bucket hat
01:05:24 this isn't very effective but
01:05:28 fuck it bull rock
01:05:30 so as we're recording this I don't know
01:05:32 the result of the Liverpool game
01:05:34 tomorrow but I do have my Liverpool hat on
01:05:36 they're playing Manchester City
01:05:38 at Ratless 7.30am
01:05:40 I don't think I'm actually going to that game anymore
01:05:42 but the game is far too early
01:05:44 that's tough yeah
01:05:46 and I want to watch it but like
01:05:48 also I would like to go for a run
01:05:50 I don't know what I'm going to do
01:05:52 when does Brentford play? I haven't kept up with Brentford
01:05:54 all this season I'm a fucking loser
01:05:56 oh they suck right now shit
01:05:58 that's not good
01:06:00 well actually they've won 3 of the last 5
01:06:02 they're fine they're 4-4-4
01:06:04 perfectly balanced is all things should be
01:06:06 there you go
01:06:08 I don't think I
01:06:10 I don't think
01:06:12 I don't think I have any more Ratless today do you have anything else?
01:06:14 not for the show
01:06:16 good to know
01:06:18 I appreciate you holding back
01:06:20 because if that reaction tells me anything
01:06:22 it's something I probably would have had to edit out
01:06:24 when we started this you were like
01:06:26 do you want to go first? do you want me to go first?
01:06:28 and I was like well do you want to edit or not?
01:06:30 thank you
01:06:32 and I was like I'm not even going to say that I don't want him to have to edit anything
01:06:34 oh all Ratless so
01:06:36 I went to get a haircut the other day
01:06:38 and my hair has always been very like
01:06:40 coarse like it's just not soft
01:06:42 it's like rough or whatever
01:06:44 I used conditioner to use
01:06:46 because they're like oh this is what I'd use
01:06:48 it's nice whatever they used it there and I left
01:06:50 and my hair was super soft
01:06:52 the two times I've used it since it just hasn't worked the same way
01:06:54 so I don't know if I'm brain dead at doing something wrong
01:06:56 you leave it in your hair?
01:06:58 well yeah of course I leave it in my hair it's leave in conditioner am I stupid?
01:07:00 oh I thought leave in was like the brand
01:07:02 when I use conditioner
01:07:04 so I shampoo my hair
01:07:06 I rinse it out
01:07:08 and then I put conditioner in my hair for the duration of my shower
01:07:10 and then I rinse it out
01:07:12 this is after you shower
01:07:14 you put the conditioner in
01:07:16 to damp hair and leave it there
01:07:18 it's like post shower
01:07:20 you don't need your hair to be soft
01:07:22 you're probably fine
01:07:24 they gave it to me
01:07:26 they gave it to me and it worked
01:07:28 and I was like cool
01:07:30 because it worked really well it was like super soft there
01:07:32 but it hasn't worked since
01:07:34 so Ratless maybe me for being a moron
01:07:36 but I don't know anyways
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01:07:44 you know what I'm going to do a live review right now
01:07:46 to see if I'm mad at you guys still
01:07:48 let me check Apple Podcasts
01:07:50 let's see if any of you fucks have left us a review
01:07:52 I think Philip said he got his to go through
01:07:54 Philip you're a fucking beast
01:07:56 if this went through we'd be so happy
01:07:58 yes
01:08:00 from what I assumed to be Philip
01:08:02 another five star review on Apple Podcasts
01:08:04 fuck yeah
01:08:06 it doesn't say Philip
01:08:08 it doesn't say Philip
01:08:10 but it says from the chronicler
01:08:12 he comments on the YouTube video
01:08:14 saying that was him
01:08:16 love you Philip happy birthday still
01:08:18 it's always going to be Philip
01:08:20 happy belated anniversary
01:08:22 fuck that's the overlay
01:08:24 wait wait wait
01:08:26 happy birthday Philip
01:08:28 it's always Philip's birthday
01:08:30 god damn it it's always the fucking wrong thing
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