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Join The A List Podcast with veteran Boston Celtics and NBA reporter A. Sherrod Blakely, veteran NBA Insider for the Boston Globe, Gary Washburn and NBC10 Boston's Kwani A. Lunis. The "Big 3" discuss the latest news and insights into the Boston Celtics, the NBA, and more! Join Sherrod, Gary and Kwani weekly as they delve into the most poignant topics with some of the biggest names in basketball and beyond. In Episode 153, the Big 3 discuss the Celtics first loss of the season at the hands of the Minnesota Timberwolves, Jayson Tatum passing the 10K career points mark, the impact of star athletes on the city of Boston, and take a look ahead at the schedule and In-Season Tournament!  0:00 Teaser 0:50 Intro 1:08 What went wrong for the Celtics in their first loss of the season to Timberwolves? 6:07 Every Celtic was off against a top defensive team in Minnesota 9:50 Celtics fans shouldn't panic over one loss 10:23 Celtics bench still raises some concern with Payton Pritchard and Sam Hauser struggling 14:07 Are there concerns defensively with Kristaps Porzingis? 15:57 FanDuel Sportsbook 16:37 Jayson Tatum becomes youngest Celtic to hit 10K career points 22:39 Jayson Tatum, Jaylen Brown are embracing the Boston community  30:33 Boston is proud of their athletes and teams and wants their stars to feel the same 32:39 Indeed 34:21 Boston cont'd 39:23 Thoughts on NBA In-Season Tournament 45:43 Looking ahead at Celtics schedule 48:25 Outro  This episode of The A List Podcast is brought to you by FanDuel Sportsbook, the exclusive wagering partner of the CLNS Media Network. Right now, NEW customers get ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS in BONUS BETS with any winning FIVE DOLLAR MONEYLINE BET! So, visit https://FanDuel.com/BOSTON and kick off the NFL season. FanDuel, Official Partner of the NFL. 21+ and present in MA. Hope is here. First online real money wager only. $5 pregame moneyline wager required. First online real money wager only. $10 first deposit required. Bonus issued as non-withdrawable bonus bets that expire 7 days after receipt. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. GamblingHelpLineMa.org or call (800)-327-5050 for 24/7 support. Play it smart from the start! GameSenseMA.com or call 1-800-GAM-1234.  With HelloFresh, you get farm-fresh, pre-portioned ingredients and seasonal recipes delivered right to your doorstep. Go to https://HelloFresh.com/CLNS50 and use code CLNS50 for 50% off plus FREE SHIPPING!  Ever wished you could navigate the betting field with the confidence of a pro? Enter OddsR. They're not a sportsbook, but they're the sports betting advisor you've always needed. It's like having a playbook for smarter bets right in your pocket. Get a 30-day free trial! Elevate your game day and join the smart betting revolution! Go get it at https://oddsr.com/celtics  Visit https://factormeals.com/NEWSFEED50 to get 50% off your first box! Factor is America’s #1 Ready-To-Eat Meal Kit, can help you fuel up fast with ready-to-eat meals delivered straight to

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00:00 To Gary's point some of the things that got exposed. I don't think you're gonna see on a statue

00:04 That gonna jump out at you for example. I thought this game

00:08 Made a lot of my concerns about porzingis defensively come to life

00:13 He had trouble with size and athletic

00:18 When he got switched out and had to deal with some of those wings, you know, he got I mean it, you know

00:25 Barbecue chick that was him. They were I mean they were finger licking him up and down when they got that matchup

00:31 Went at him with the witness and just actually barbecued it

00:35 And cat, you know

00:38 The one thing he did do a good job was he was able to get cat to commit some silly files

00:42 But the rest of the team was just like, all right cat we're not gonna have you but we still gonna take this fool out

00:48 We got this

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00:55 Hello everyone. Welcome to the a-list podcast. I'm Bonnie Lunas a shrug lately is eating popcorn

01:02 Gary Washburn is just chilling right now

01:05 Welcome to a new week of the NBA. And of course if you haven't heard already, unfortunately, the Celtics have

01:13 Broken their win streak, but I mean it's nothing to be dramatic about they're bound to lose one at some point

01:19 But let's just go over that game specifically. It was a pretty good game

01:23 Anyway, so they of the no loss, of course, they were defeated by the Minnesota Timberwolves in overtime

01:30 114 109 Anthony Edwards did what he had to do 38 points time rebounds nine assists Tatum with 32 and five

01:37 Everyone showed up essentially, but what do you think went wrong for this Celtics?

01:43 and then I mean

01:45 Yeah, you got it. Yeah

01:48 Um, I felt like they had their chances in this game. It's just a game of runs

01:55 Minnesota

01:58 Obviously is a good club. Okay better than I probably thought I think they're better

02:04 The Timberwolves are better and I think people in the West are giving giving them credit for the West

02:09 Like they could be a top four teams. They play really well. They play very good defense

02:13 I just felt the Celtics just didn't quite have that. Um, like they look tired at times

02:18 And it's just to me

02:22 It was like it wasn't good. It wasn't it wasn't it was solid Tatum, but not great Tatum

02:28 It was okay. It was okay. Jalen, but not great Jalen Jalen a minus 16 in his time

02:35 Drew holiday was awful offensively. He missed I mean he

02:39 12 points 11 rebounds 6 assists a steal, but he also was 4 for 16

02:47 He was over 4 from the 3 like if he has any type of decent offensive game, they win it

02:53 There was Angus 5 for 14 got pushed around obviously facing somebody like a

03:00 Draco bear who all practically his size so he doesn't have the advantage there

03:06 And they made it tough on him and he missed some makeable shots

03:10 So if the Celtics they shot 39% they missed a lot of threes

03:14 But I just felt like they just weren't at they didn't play a crisp game

03:18 and then to me a lot of the Minnesota players like

03:22 The problem I felt like the Celtics still have a bench problem like 16 points from the bench

03:29 Um, no points from Peyton Pritchard in 20 minutes

03:34 You know Sam Hauser was okay 11 points in 24 minutes and we said there's a lot of Sam Hauser last night

03:41 I don't know why they didn't Jordan played reset. He played Lamar Stevens for a hot minute

03:48 You know, he played speed for a hot minute

03:51 But he would really went with the Hauser minutes and I said Peyton is just gotta start hitting shots

03:57 I mean over three from the field or four one from three-point line, you know, he had six boards, but to me

04:03 They just weren't crisp and the key I felt like and we could talk about

04:08 Ant-man Anthony Edwards

04:11 It was the other guys Jake McDaniels for threes and when you put so much pressure on the defense when you're

04:18 Anthony Edwards

04:20 Jake McDaniels has got to hit that open three and he was four for nine

04:24 I thought that was key to kill that Alexander Walker in two threes, you know

04:29 Nas Reed came in with 14 points in 25 minutes. He helped him more in the first half. So I just thought there

04:37 Which was better and we're complimentary players are better because remember like car Anthony Towns only had seven points

04:44 He was a foul trouble most of the night, you know, he didn't he was not himself

04:49 Bear was a plus 24 and his 40 minutes of a

04:52 Timberwolves won the minutes would go beyond the floor pretty decisively to me. That was the key to so

05:01 You can blame us other maybe you know, they've had a lot of road games from from the beginning. We've only had two home games

05:07 Maybe they're a little tired maybe they're not gonna get a break. So I'm gonna get this rest from

05:16 But they just didn't look crisp and I said if drew holiday plays

05:20 If he goes eight for 16 instead of four for 16, they win this game. He missed a lot of bunnies

05:27 Tatum six turnovers Tatum was trying to do too much with the dribble

05:31 Jalen Brown was said he had his moments

05:36 That big dunk on go be in the first half and all that but you know, he missed some shots

05:41 Chris staffs was in foul trouble

05:44 You know, you know eight missed free throws - I mean now Timberwolves missed 12, but

05:49 the nine of those might go better, but

05:53 Eight missed free throws by guys who should be knocking down free throws

05:57 So a lot of little reasons why they lost but credit to Minnesota. They played a strong game

06:02 They never went away in the service couldn't put them away

06:05 I'm

06:07 Actually Gary I can't away more encouraged and I think a lot of people did after this game

06:12 And here's why first and foremost the Celtics they began a game under man with no Derek a white again

06:18 second as you

06:21 Clearly chronicled pretty much everyone on a Celtic roster had an off night in some capacity and they're doing this

06:29 With what was this yet another in the long string of road games?

06:33 against the best defensive team in the NBA up to this point and

06:38 That team couldn't put them away until overtime and it took Jada McDaniels. I have a game. That's very typical of what he does

06:46 He knocked down a lot of shots. He normally doesn't knock down

06:48 Carl Anthony Towns did not have a good game Anthony Edwards, you know, he

06:53 He may be the most

06:56 Under the radar superstar in our game people know he's a good player. I think he's a star

07:02 I think he is at that level and he still has room to grow

07:07 But so many things went against the Celtics a number of things went for Minnesota and yet there they were

07:13 Going overtime and and if you're the Celtics

07:16 There's a party that has to be encouraged by that because you're able to not have your a game and still be able to hold

07:22 Your own against pretty much any team a year ago the Southfield lost that game by 15. It wouldn't went to overtime

07:27 They just would have simply they would have turtled up and winning the show and called it a day with things got tough and guys

07:35 We're making shots. But this this team is built a little bit differently

07:38 Now would they have won this game if they had Derek white probably but the flipside

07:43 Minnesota would have still won if Carl Anthony tells me better you never know

07:47 It's not here today, but I was encouraged by the way that they simply didn't succumb to a rough night

07:54 Tatum I thought again he there were stretches where I thought he disappeared and not because he wasn't looking for the ball

08:01 They simply weren't getting him to rock and you just can't do that when your best player it can be that dominant

08:07 Jalen didn't have a great game. Obviously Sam Howser was the only spark today off the bench. We'll talk more about the move later

08:13 But the bottom line is the Celtics they gave himself a chance to win in the game, right?

08:17 I did not think that anyone played well enough to where they should have been in the game and yet there they were so

08:23 That for me is the silver lining in this loss and I'm curious to see how they're gonna bounce back

08:29 Because to me it's you know, the loss itself doesn't define them

08:33 It's how do they respond and that will you know, we'll find out soon enough

08:37 But like I said, I wasn't nearly as like pissed off and upset about this loss as I think some fans might have

08:44 In Philly is a good metric marker for whether or not they will bounce back

08:49 Also, if you guys are watching apologies, my light just died in the middle and I'm trying to fix it up

08:55 Okay, it works. Nevermind. I

08:57 Kept flickering so I was like, let me not do that because it's really distracting on your answer

09:03 Addressing because they only why was she just sitting in the dark?

09:11 Please my Venmo is Quanie a lunas cash app also funny a lunas

09:20 Put in the memo that it's for my ring light and I will make sure you get

09:24 so Gary

09:26 She's she's low-key hitting Gary. Give me a ring light for Christmas. Yes, actually y'all could give me one

09:33 It's working now though. So I don't know what happened, but we're good

09:36 Now it's a co-host that's the reason we should do a secret Santa well, we can't do secret Santa

09:46 We should do a gift swap. I

09:48 Got you. Okay. Well, okay go back to Celtics though

09:52 you kind of alluded to this rod, but it sounds like and Gary you can chime in if you agree you guys aren't as

09:58 This isn't a big deal. This is not necessarily something that Celtics fans should be panicking about

10:04 I understand it's fun to be like the only undefeated team at the beginning of the season, but

10:09 It's one game to your point sure out one game and then

10:13 Again, Philly I think should be like you said the test of whether or not this is gonna be a pattern

10:19 No, I just feel like there's little things to look out for

10:27 One is the bench like I'm just still concerned about the bench

10:30 I think Pritchard, you know a lot of he still keeps getting open shots. He still keeps missing them. He played 20 minutes

10:39 On against Minnesota. He didn't score, you know

10:43 He's got they need more look for the bench

10:45 because there's gonna be nights where

10:48 like if you look at their quote-unquote big four like Tatum had his moments and Brown had his moments, but

10:56 None of neither more good

10:58 Very good, right, you know, although they could have won the game of Jalen hits that three at the buzzer

11:03 Or the last seconds of regulation, you know, everybody's talking about over six and oh

11:09 What a team they pull out a buddy win at Minnesota or whatever. So it's it's a thin line, but I

11:17 Think there's little things to watch out for

11:19 To the too much ISO ball. I saw down the stretch guys not sharing the ball and

11:24 And you know guys trying to do too much and I think Jason got caught up in the light

11:29 Okay, Anthony, you know you making the you know, you making your crowd go crazy with these moves

11:34 I'm about to go at you and do it too. And it was just like no Jason. That's not you

11:39 Like do it in the flow of the game. Do not try to go one-on-one

11:43 mono-e-mono

11:45 Because basically if you look at it

11:47 Edwards was all Minnesota had McDaniels to me and that and I just looked at someone McDaniels McDaniels had taken

11:55 He was four four nine from three last night. So I can't blame the Celtics for this

11:58 Prior to that. He played in three games. He had taken six total threes

12:03 He was three four six like he just came he shot he scored 20 points

12:08 He had scored 23 points in the previous three games. He had played this season. He has scored five points in his previous game

12:14 against Utah so like this kind of came out the blue like this was a

12:20 Season best by far game for Jaden McDaniels, but you're also leaving him wide open because you're focused so much on Edwards

12:29 I think they've got to improve a little bit defensively sometimes in that sense make it tough

12:35 For guys like Edwards for those wing scores, but you know, I got you know, I don't think it's like a reason for it

12:43 Oh boy, here we go

12:44 but

12:46 Little things you can see creep up in the bench

12:48 And it's great when you're at home and you're playing in the end and you're beating by 50 to hit a bunch of threes late

12:54 They're late, but I just haven't seen I said Pritchard was struggling

12:57 Houser was doing okay

13:00 And you know Joe's kind of mixing the minutes like I'd like to see Oh shapers said get consistent minutes per game

13:07 I think he's a guy you should play every game. I don't know Bantam

13:12 You know Stevens got a little cup of coffee and so does feed but like you got it

13:18 And then they're really going to the cornet minutes. I mean

13:22 whoo

13:24 If I look at the box score

13:26 My man

13:29 My man Luke Cornett

13:31 Play 15 minutes and got one rebound

13:36 amazing

13:39 Yeah, he scored five points

13:41 And he was three four four for the free throw line, but he played 15 minutes as a seven footer and got one rebound

13:48 Like that can't happen

13:52 That's right

13:54 Thanks Gary

13:56 Back to you

14:00 This game I

14:03 To Gary's point some of the things that got exposed I don't think you're gonna see on a stat sheet

14:08 That gonna jump out at you. For example, I thought this game

14:12 Made a lot of my concerns about porzingis defensively come to life

14:18 He had trouble with size and athleticism

14:22 When he got switched out and had to deal with some of those wings, you know, he got I mean it, you know

14:28 Barbecue chick that was him

14:31 They were I mean they were finger licking him up and down when they got that matchup went at him with

14:37 The quickness and just absolutely barbecued it and cat, you know

14:41 The one thing he did do a good job was he was able to get cat to commit some silly fouls

14:47 But the rest of the team was just like, all right, can't we not gonna have you but we still gonna take this rule out

14:52 we've got this and

14:54 That's you know, Luke

14:56 Christophs they both have that that issue

14:59 defensive

15:02 You know and an owl just doesn't I think have the ability to play extended stretches out there defense

15:08 So that's kind of the catch-22

15:10 You need to figure out a way to kind of close that gap and get some youth

15:14 Athleticism and just energy in that front court and Gary's point, you know, oh shit

15:19 But said that's literally the one thing that he's been able to do every time he's played

15:23 He's been able to provide an elusive energy

15:25 And I'm not really sure whether Joe's trying to see what other guys can do because he kind of gets an idea what oh shit

15:30 I can do but

15:32 The it was little things throughout this game that just reminded me of why that this team as good as they are as talented as

15:38 They are and as more likely than not they're gonna go deep into the playoffs

15:41 there's still things they need to shore up in order to make it so that as they

15:47 Advance throughout the season that they don't have like the major slip-ups that could potentially derail

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16:33 A

16:35 Really good point. All right moving on I would be remiss if I didn't mention the fact that Jason Tatum became the youngest

16:42 Celtic to hit 10k career point. He did that what by time is 19

16:47 Only 19 years old, but what do you think that says about the future of him?

16:52 Not only in the NBA but in Boston. I

16:57 Mean he's been cracking the first the youngest to do this that and the other ever since he's been in Boston and part of that

17:04 Has to do with the fact I think we have to be mindful of the fact that

17:06 You know the Celtics are like any other long-standing organization when cats came to the league back in the you know

17:12 50s and 60s they were 21 22 years old

17:14 So they were all right like so basically they were where Jason's at in my year for me

17:20 So for him to break a lot of those records it makes sense

17:23 but to me what sets Jason apart from a lot of guys is

17:27 He wants to play every game

17:31 And he ain't trying to do load management

17:33 And when you when you're able to do that when you're able to stay healthy when you're doing things to physically improve your body

17:40 And your sustainability and your durability year after year after year

17:44 You're going to be in the mix to be a 20-year veteran

17:48 I think Tatum's Tatum is in that era where we're gonna see these guys playing right now for another decade. It's a change

17:55 They going over health wise

17:57 They've got the greatest advancements in science to help them stay healthy and their mentality and the way they're built and how they condition their

18:04 Bodies the fuel that they put into their bodies

18:06 They're built differently in a way that allows them to sustain a high level of play for longer stretches

18:14 And so Jason, I mean it would not be surprising to me if Tatum

18:18 Continues to ascend and crack if you wanted the top four top five all-time scores and then would not shock me at all

18:25 And Jalen Brown when you look at his game

18:27 Wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't being the top 20 top 25 all-time

18:31 Um, if you're putting out 20 25 points a night the way he does and you don't have the pressure of being the man

18:38 Yeah, you could do that

18:40 It doesn't really surprise me that Tatum's been able to continue to just check off one box after the other on the

18:47 Youngest to do this the first to do that

18:49 It's gonna be like that until he's an old-ass man until he's a whopping old 30 year old

18:54 Which is crazy because I think when he's 30 years old

18:57 He still has like another decade potentially in the league after already been in the league a decade

19:02 I mean LeBron LeBron

19:04 I think is a template that all players when you talk about longevity want to strive to be I mean LeBron has been

19:10 You know at the top of the mountaintop pretty much

19:12 21 years he's been there for maybe 18 19

19:15 I mean for one two years where he wasn't on that in that amount Rushmore of guys in the league currently and Tatum

19:22 You know, I think is one of those guys following soon. We saw Anthony Edwards

19:26 I think it's gonna be a guy that will be in the MVP conversation multiple times for all said and done

19:32 He may wear he may very well want to being the greatest Timberwolves player

19:36 Not named Kevin Garnett

19:39 He's gonna be that good cuz cat cuz cat I think cat has clearly

19:43 Become comfortable being that other dude. He went from being the main

19:47 person to the side

19:50 To the side

19:54 See that you see that

19:58 Going back to Tatum quantity dropping the topic of side chicks

20:08 Transition

20:10 Jump-offs

20:12 anyway

20:14 Yeah, I think it's a good accomplishment something I'm sure it's just the first step and just

20:20 understand in an era of

20:24 scoring how tough it is, I mean

20:27 10,000 points is a lot but

20:29 LeBron almost got 40. LeBron's gonna get 40,000. So I mean

20:35 Jason got a long way to go. You look at guys like, you know, the great Larry Bird

20:40 Like I looked up in Jason got his 10,000 points and we're talking about with the three-point shot

20:45 If 444 games Larry Bird got 10,000 points at 436 games

20:51 without the services

20:54 Many three-point shots, you know, he might have hit a hundred in those five years or maybe 150

21:00 I had to look that up, but he did not have a lot of

21:04 Huh, and their schedules were shorter. No, we're still 82 games

21:09 Yeah

21:12 The more, you know

21:19 You for real

21:22 No for faith

21:24 It was the same 82 game schedule

21:28 And burn was older. I'm using the man. He was like 23 when he got to the loony

21:33 But he didn't four and 36 games. So did you any look at a guy like have a check?

21:39 The all-time leading scorer for the Celtics 27,000 points and he never hit a three

21:45 Have a check retired before the three-point shot. It was a lot of to the NBA

21:50 He retired for the 1977-78 season and the three-pointer was not into the league until 79 80. So

21:59 It is get more appreciation for the all-time greats of the franchise

22:02 But still Tatum is now at just age 25 the 14th all-time leading scorer in franchise history

22:10 He's gonna pass Antoine Walker sometime this season

22:14 So he's gonna his greatness in the Celtics is already being set. He just has to

22:20 quite honestly

22:22 When a chip win a championship stay healthy

22:25 And he can retire and be all one of the all-time greats

22:28 So obviously nobody is gonna win number zero again and all that he knows that and he knows that there's a lot of things on

22:34 his shoulders

22:35 To deal with but I think he's handling well

22:38 It also thought it was interesting the two things that stood out to me this week about Jason Tatum one

22:44 Making a surprise appearance at Children's Hospital in Boston on Halloween for the kids. You didn't have to do that

22:51 That was not the team and secondly showing up to a new mission high school

22:56 That was not the team either neither

22:59 Beautiful to though to watch how the kids just like ran up on

23:03 That was not that was not the Celtic saying come on Jason King

23:11 Some of these guys are busy and and they

23:15 Cherish their time and so some guys are easier than others to get to do stuff like that for the community

23:21 But the fact Jason is in

23:23 Boston community here shout the grant the grant didn't without even being asked some of these guys are just amazing with the community

23:30 But to see Jason understand

23:32 That he is pivotal in his community like people look up to him now, you know

23:38 even as Quan he would say the Cape Verdean community looks up to

23:41 Truly this city really like even just walking on a regular day in Boston

23:47 You're gonna see a seven seven Jersey. You're gonna see a zero Jersey like no matter where you are

23:52 there's always someone that's showing pride because people really take pride in these players and

23:56 Stuff like that is what really solidifies them being accepted by the city as well. This is the thing. I think that

24:03 You know in Jalen

24:05 Dedicating the court to Kobe Bryant and GG Bryant at the Boys and Girls Club Roxbury a couple weeks ago

24:11 That was kind of on his own

24:14 I mean, you know like he went there and made appearance after a practice. So I mean away about that

24:22 What do you like?

24:24 Yeah, this is a waker

24:26 But I was genuinely curious as to is that a worthy argument like I get it

24:35 This Kobe. Come on. Humanity is more than I mean, you know

24:40 Rivalry, I mean, come on. I mean, it's just a beautiful. It's a view. It's a beautiful court. Yeah kids can play it's

24:47 It was drawn beautiful design beautifully

24:51 But the fact that they're doing that in fact that Jason is embracing his

24:56 His community people that look up to him people who are not from you know

25:03 The rich areas even the people the kids and from the hood

25:08 What regards of what nationality are white black green?

25:11 converting in Haitian whatever Dominican

25:15 I feel like a tripod right now

25:20 If I feel like five God

25:32 Anybody from those underrepresented communities who look up to him who will never be six ten six nine

25:38 We'll never but can still be winners, you know in their life

25:41 And for him to say hey listen to your teachers, you don't have to be the NBA player

25:47 You could be a winner whatever you want to do, and I just think that means a lot

25:51 You know you grow up and you say oh my god, like such-and-such came to my school one day

25:55 I mean I can remember I can remember athletes when I was sixth grade

26:01 Where was he Greer that's a long time ago came to my school the Rams to fit the alignment for the Rams

26:08 He came to my school

26:09 And I remember that 11 years old 10 years old like like you remember those thing a long time ago quantity before you

26:16 But

26:24 You know come to your school you remember that and you remember what they did you remember them shaking your hand or just putting

26:30 Their arm around and taking pictures or hanging around and shooting baskets or whatever people people don't understand how?

26:36 Impactful that is so even in 10,000 points

26:40 I just think there's a pretty amazing week for Jason Tatum the children's hospital thing. I thought was really meaningful also

26:45 I mean, that's amazing

26:47 Halloween and just to visit the kids, but that's also the show to a school

26:50 It is really hey and believe me I talked to the Celtics did

26:55 Ain't nothing to do with that that was him his people or whatever that was it was his decision to do that

27:01 It was not like the team no, you know, hey, you know

27:05 You only need to be there for 30 minutes and we got we got the town car

27:09 We got the you know SUV waiting for you

27:12 We can just escort you right on out and you can go

27:15 You know, it's just 30 minutes to show up and wave a hand and get the hell out of you

27:19 No, it was it was it was meaningful

27:21 So I think it was a really impactful week for Jason Tatum and and it's good to see him embrace the city

27:27 like he has because it is getting to be his city the

27:31 You know as I wrote the Patriots are down the Red Sox are rebuilding. There's no superstars here

27:37 I mean you can March and you can say some of the Boston Bruins or whatever you say Rafael Devers, you know

27:43 You can say some some standout athletes, but you know, it's Tatum's town and brown

27:49 They were especially they get a check. It's their town

27:52 Yeah, even building up to that though Gary I mean I'd say it's it's already

27:59 their town because

28:01 one of the things about greatness is that there's greatness among your peers in your city and as greatest among the league that you play in

28:08 And Tatum's a top five guy

28:10 There's not another player in this city on any protein that we can say they're in the top five in that league

28:18 Right now so Tatum is already asserted himself in my eyes as the face of this region. He's that good

28:25 When you flip on a commercial you watch, you know an NBA commercial high probability if they got more than five guys

28:32 I mean Tatum's only one of them. I don't think that's happened within a jail that you have no damn sure you have no baseball

28:39 And the Patriots. Oh, no good

28:42 That's not be talked about right now exactly exactly

28:47 So it's it's there but see the thing that and we know this all too

28:52 Well, when you want to chip in this town, it ain't like winning the championship anywhere. So you become like, you know

28:58 You become almost like a an athletic guy at that point right now

29:03 You are playing amongst the greatest of your time in your generation

29:07 But you want to chip in Boston you become an athletic guy and Tatum is as poised as any app

29:13 To be that not only because of the team that he plays for but because of his game his game is that good?

29:19 I mean do can just literally roll out of bed and get you 25 4 and 4 without

29:24 brushing the teeth combing the hair

29:26 He

29:30 Gets you 25 before and then do that other stuff. He's that good right now

29:34 He just got a winning ship. That's all that's really the only thing that's left on his mantle that needs

29:41 Something to go there isn't you? I

29:43 Really appreciate this conversation though, because I remember earlier on when he was drafted and over the years people

29:50 Generally speaking when a player gets drafted to a specific city

29:55 There's this expectation that they're supposed to automatically be on board with that city. They're supposed to

30:01 Disavow where they came from like he would wear his st. Louis snapback and I'm sure he will continue to wear that

30:08 Where he's from same with Jalen and repping Atlanta, but to your point going a new mission high school

30:15 The mayor of Boston Mary Michelle Wu was there to introduce him as well. So really embedding themselves into the city again

30:22 They don't have to it's not really fit in their contract necessarily, but I think they understand

30:27 This is a city where it's somewhat expected

30:30 It's like you said it's neat and sign up for but when you're in a city like Boston people are proud of their sports teams

30:36 They're proud of their athletes. They're proud of being from here

30:39 They want you to know that

30:41 They want to know that you are actually proud of being where you are as well

30:44 Even if you're not from the city as well, so I think the two of them are definitely on the right track

30:48 Well, I think they also been from experience and wisdom of seeing what happens when you don't do that

30:54 That's how we didn't I mean Kyrie Garvey first man that comes to mind

30:58 You and then you start looking at some, you know

31:02 Just some of the other guys that kind of came through that had really good runs

31:04 But they didn't really kind of ingratiate themselves into the city the way you would ideally want your best player to do

31:11 And they learn from that they realize that

31:14 Can't do that one

31:17 It's not good for the brand. If you keep it in 100, it's just not good for your brand

31:22 Disconnected with your community and and to and maybe most important. It's just the right thing to do

31:28 I mean at the end of the day, it's it's just it's

31:32 As simple as doing the right thing

31:34 Sometimes we try to complicate these these conversations and in these type of you know moments

31:41 And make it out more than what they are when it at the absolute essence. It's just doing the right thing

31:47 Look at my you won't be he I mean, honestly, he's at a point where the this fan base

31:54 Considers him one of their great and that's not necessarily what he did on the floor

31:58 Our in soul of the team what he did in the community

32:01 I I think that I think he's gotten his flowers for it

32:04 But he did a lot in the city of Boston

32:06 I can tell he's already trying to figure out what he can do in Memphis as well

32:11 But people in the city of Boston know they can see Marcus

32:14 They can access him and they can go to an event and know that he's really gonna

32:19 Find a way to reach out to that community as well wouldn't be surprised if once he's done playing

32:23 He finds a way to be back in that front office working with Brad at some fast or whoever

32:28 And no one will be tripping about that. No one will be like

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34:22 Not being I think none of us are from Boston, but I think us all living there

34:28 Boston's aware about that. We're very self-aware. Boston is a big city

34:33 small city kind of mentality where

34:36 Like if you're from LA like people in LA are saying, oh you don't represent LA

34:41 You don't come like LA so big that there's so many people rep it

34:46 There's so many like it's such a but Boston wants people who are not from Boston to like Boston, right?

34:53 They want the people from Boston walk people to want you to say, you know

34:58 This is a cool place. Like I understand why people live here. They want to feel accepted. They want to feel like you enjoy

35:06 Their city because you can make it your own

35:10 Because they're very proud of the civic pride and other big cities

35:14 It might not be so much for New York like it's like it's New York you you best like this or you

35:20 know

35:22 Or LA like that like Jersey

35:25 Like Jersey. Yeah

35:28 We got we got so much here that if you don't like it, there's something wrong with you, but Boston

35:34 Always kind of has maybe an insecurity of like you like this place, right? You're good here, right?

35:39 You're not gonna just leave us right like I just think there's kind of an insecurity

35:42 I think that might go back to where how Bill Russell felt he was treated in this city

35:47 and then you know in the

35:50 lap of free agents to sell this way because you don't know Boston crazy you

35:56 All these things were happening to be Brown and I could bring up all this stuff

36:01 But that kind of burn athletic standpoint like players coming to Boston

36:06 Yeah, they've burned kind of a bad record that burned, you know

36:09 something kind of a left a scar in the city in the fact that now starting with Garnett and Alan coming here and saying I

36:17 Love this place and Isaiah Thomas and Marcus Morris and all these guys Jay Crowder who loved playing in Boston

36:23 So for a guy who was homegrown 19 years old st. Louis through and through

36:29 To say hey, I love you here. This is my city

36:33 My son was born here. I got a house here and the same with Jalen like Jalen's

36:38 No, there's been all you know questions about will Gerber like you here

36:42 and I don't think James crazy about some of the

36:45 some of the issues of the city and

36:47 Economic disparity like it's okay to love where you at but not like all of what's going on

36:53 I just know that it can be better like

36:55 I think it's okay to do that

36:57 It's okay not to like some of the things in your city I'm born in LA raised in LA

37:04 I don't like everything about my hometown. I don't like the violence

37:07 I didn't like some of the things like I can honestly say that I don't think I'm betraying my city my hometown by saying

37:13 There's some things about it. I don't like I wish was better

37:17 And I think that's what Jalen has told me over the years like let just because I call things out

37:22 Does that mean I hate it here or I want to get out of here?

37:25 It means I want to make it better and I want the people who are underrepresented

37:29 to live better here and to have a part of and I just think that

37:33 That's what the important part of this whole thing is with Jason is this people who are underrepresented

37:39 people of color people who live in like having a more of a say and more of a

37:44 Impact of what's going on more people at games, you know more people getting a piece of the pie

37:51 Because Boston's a great place to live if you have the money

37:55 now

37:57 If you don't it could be hard and I just but I think that's for like that for every city

38:02 but I think that the athletes contributing to the community and going to places where

38:08 They that they don't get seen much or hey, it's kind of rough around here or whatever

38:13 But knowing like man, I'm good like anybody don't come up to me like, you know

38:17 These are my people being them being a person of the people I think really

38:22 Kind of makes this makes you kind of a you know

38:27 You're the city will embrace that and I just think the community will embrace that I think

38:31 you know you you kind of saying that Jalen and Jason have been embraced by the Haitian and

38:37 Cape Verde community is kind of funny, but it's got it's interesting

38:41 You know that people let you know people they want someone to claim they want someone to be like hey

38:47 I'm with you. I'm a man of you. I'm a man of the people and I just think it is in his way

38:53 It is way all the way is 25. Jason's trying to do that and Jalen with the economic work

38:58 He's doing is trying to do that. So I think that's amazing because I don't see that

39:01 Many places in many cities. I see other other cities and markets trying to do that

39:07 But you know, I don't see that around as Boston as much as probably well, we should see it

39:15 Very well said this is a great conversation, but we have to move on eventually we'll get back to this eventually

39:22 I'm sure but let's talk quickly about the in-season tournament. The first game for the Celtics is on Friday

39:28 They'll be playing the Nets

39:29 What are your thoughts about this in-season tournament that people are still trying to figure out what it is in some ways?

39:35 But how do you think this will also play out for Celtics fans? I just want to see the damn court

39:40 I do not want to see the court. I

39:44 Want to see the court. I want to see the reaction to the court because the thing about self-experience that y'all both notice they're very

39:50 Traditional traditional when it comes to that parquet so that there's that but I

39:59 Like the fact that this that the players I think are going to be a little bit more focused and motivated in season then

40:09 Previously, but it's not I think a big issue with the Celtics as with some other teams because you look at the guys that Celtics

40:16 Who make up their core?

40:17 They're not even about that load management life per se they do it like Al Horford does it because they told him to

40:23 It's not like our winners that I need to be load manager. I want to be low bench. I'm cool with that

40:27 He's not really all that cool with it. He does it because it's a way to preserve him

40:31 For the length of the season what you go to LA and the Clippers well management is I mean

40:38 That's like the first thing they get when I walk through the damn door. The more is this load management program?

40:43 Go Island. We got one for you. Paul George. I've got one for you James. Are you coming?

40:47 Yeah, we got one for you to fight that

40:49 That's what this in season tournament

40:53 I think to me it's the

40:55 Superpower of the tournament it forces teams to be a little bit more intentional on not doing that

41:00 It makes it so that the fans actually can

41:04 Show out three four five hundred dollars and actually see the play that they came to see I can't tell you how many times

41:10 That I have heard people, you know, email or text something like saying yo, I went to go see player X play

41:17 Don't you know that fool was that back at home in San Antonio?

41:20 That was back in Chicago. Just chillin and I mean I'm in this damn scene here five hundred dollars

41:25 Got that problem. I'm a big Aussie. She all upset like why you said it again? Dude, I came seeing here

41:32 That happens so often and the NBA

41:36 Understands that if you're not careful you are going to turn away the cash cow that keeps you moving that keeps the train moving

41:44 And so to me the instant determined that to me is it's going to be its greatest accomplishment

41:48 Forcing team to actually play the guys

41:51 consistently that fans want to see

41:54 Yeah

41:59 Good job. What do I say?

42:01 compassionate

42:03 To me I'm just interested to see how it's all goes in terms of the competition and whether

42:09 The fans will get into it. I think I think the whole like trying to be like European soccer. I

42:16 Think there's a kind of resentment

42:18 From players and from people around the lake saying like what's why why is it what we do good enough?

42:25 Why we got to be like Arsenal or why we got to be like European soccer

42:29 Why do we have to be in this is a great sport doing great things?

42:33 The sports never been more popular the players have never made more money

42:37 This is not like 10 12 years ago where the Spurs and some of these small market teams are claiming poverty and saying we can't pay

42:45 Our players and and we're gonna put everything is worked out everybody making money

42:50 Like when a player paid 18 million, that's a tradable easy contract

42:55 Like to me like back then that was a lot of money now

42:59 Players are making 30 million like hey, no like Jeremy Grant makes 30 million dollars a year. He's the

43:06 No, 73rd or 55th best player in the league NBA like where's you know?

43:13 I'm saying Jeremy Grant has no shot of making it. Yeah, Syracuse. He has no shot of making an all-star team

43:19 None, and he's making 30 million

43:23 Year, he's making 30 million a year

43:25 Fred fran bleat is making 40 million dollars a year. So I think that there's a level of

43:32 Resentment from the players of like why isn't what we do good enough, but it's also some

43:38 Innovative thinking from Adam still would have saying like I'd like to get some more interest in the NBA in December

43:46 Where right now?

43:48 People are kind of you know, real hoop fans are excited to the seasons here

43:52 But people are still doing it's Tuesday people ain't tripping about NBA. They're like, okay

43:59 I got him. I gotta make changes my fantasy lineup. I got to set up my fantasy lineup for next week

44:03 I got a Clint Clemens player off waivers. It's an NFL time

44:07 It's the college football time people, you know people what's gonna go on in Michigan?

44:12 What's gonna go on who's gonna go to play like there's all these other things interest

44:16 So basketball is kind of being not forgotten about but people are like I'll get to basketball like in January

44:22 Yeah

44:25 Yeah, I'll watch I'll start really watching NBA in the Christmas because that's really really matters, right?

44:29 You don't really start before then. So I think the NBA is trying to say hey we want to compete with

44:35 The NFL the championship games on the 9th that that's NFL weekend. That's the day of the army Navy game

44:43 It's a day of the Heisman Trophy presentation like that's where other sports have taken

44:48 Control this NBA's like no we want an earlier part of December

44:52 So I'm fascinated to see whether the fans will be interested

44:55 Where the players will be interested whether it gets really intense once we get to the quarterfinals and that type of thing

45:01 I just think I think Friday's game against Brooklyn will be hotly contested because the Celtic just beat Brooklyn last week

45:08 Brooklyn should be pretty much healthy

45:10 They're gonna look for revenge. So it's gonna be a tough game. So to me I

45:15 mean the Celtics should win but I just think it's gonna be a hotly contested game simple because

45:21 It's two division rivals going at it

45:24 for a second time in a week, so

45:26 But I'm fascinated to see and I think the players will adapt to it

45:31 Like we adapted everything people didn't like the play in tournament that you suddenly became wildly popular

45:37 So I think it'll work out

45:40 You

45:42 Looking ahead the next four games you already mentioned it Brooklyn's on Friday, but Philly is on Wednesday night

45:49 You're probably listening before that game

45:51 Toronto is on November 11th, and then New York is the 13th

45:57 Is there any game particularly that you have circled you kind of alluded to it?

46:00 But which one but obviously between Philly and Brooklyn, which one would you circle?

46:06 the most

46:08 Philly

46:09 Philly, I can't Philly. They're also better start than a lot of people thought and

46:13 They've got some interesting pieces and now now that the hardened cloud has moved on

46:19 Let's see what this team can do when they don't have that that hanging over

46:24 Are they able to just play and continue to get better and things of that nature or are we going to see moments?

46:30 Where a James Harden would have helped him in this area or James?

46:34 So I'm curious to see what they look like now that that is no longer an issue

46:39 Yeah, Philly - that's gonna be you know, and the guy I said this also should go after Kelly uber a

46:47 Is brawling for the Sixers? They got our friend Marcus Morris there now Nicholas, but - they got you know

46:54 They got a good return off hard not they didn't get a game-changing player

46:59 They didn't get an all-star but they got a guys who can help and they already got enough talent with

47:03 MB with Maxie with you know, Tobias Harris, you know, so they got they got players

47:10 So this is not like Philly is now a factor in the East like let's not they're five and one

47:14 I think people who's a new Celtics in the books the books might not be as good as we think but

47:20 Phil is gonna be better. I think that we think so Philly you could make this a trio here

47:26 And then and then it'll be interesting to see

47:28 How the Celtics respond Monday against the Knicks?

47:31 You know the Knicks will be coming back. The Knicks are off to a little slow start three and four

47:37 But in it you see the entire division in it basically three days four days really Toronto

47:44 Brooklyn and New York you see you see who you compete with your vision Toronto's kind of an up-and-down team

47:51 They've had some really good moments

47:52 They've had some not so good moments, you know new coach new staff there. We'll see what happens there, but

47:59 Philly's an interesting game because Philly got dudes now like you said try

48:04 Harden is no longer hovering over them. They got who Brady got Maxie was had great season so far

48:11 It beats is coming off 48 piece against, Washington

48:15 They're ready. And once they get some chemistry, they're gonna be a serious threat. So this could be an Eastern Conference finals preview

48:22 Yeah, open up the competition

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