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00:00 I think as far as the young players go and the way they perform in the first game against the Blackhawks,
00:04 it's exactly what you wanted to see.
00:06 The real challenge now and the question now is,
00:09 can they keep it up night in, night out?
00:11 And for every young player it's the same.
00:13 Can they consistently bring what they're bringing now
00:15 through the course of a season when they're playing back-to-backs, when they're traveling,
00:18 you know, they're going out to the West Coast next week.
00:21 That's going to be a challenge as well.
00:22 Can they play the same way through all that stuff?
00:25 Part of why I think that, part of why I think Patra's up here for good
00:28 is he opens up so many options in the lineup.
00:32 Because, you know, come end of the season, I think we were all like,
00:34 "Okay, you know, Montgomery had said, you know, even prior to the preseason,
00:38 it's probably going to be Zaka Koil down the middle."
00:40 And then, you know, we kind of all speculated probably Geeky is the third line center
00:44 and then it's a battle for the fourth line center spot.
00:47 Now, I mean, with Patra in the mix,
00:50 you know, my guess is in these next eight games of Patra's stint here
00:55 or sort of the trial test run,
00:58 you'll see him in the top six at some point.
00:59 I think he should get up into the top six.
01:01 I want to see him with Marshan and DeBrus.
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02:28 But now, Evan, welcome to the show.
02:31 Thanks for being here.
02:32 And just quickly, let me know right out of the gate what you thought about that first game
02:37 against the Blackhawks.
02:38 Initial knee-jerk reactions.
02:40 Yeah, my knee-jerk reaction was I think it's sort of what we expected, right?
02:45 They're, you know, Montgomery put it best after the game.
02:48 Played average.
02:49 I didn't think it was their best performance.
02:52 Obviously, it was another first game.
02:53 Very average.
02:54 Very average.
02:55 Is that how average they were?
02:57 Is it possible to be very average?
02:59 Isn't average just average at some level?
03:01 But, you know, I was my knee-jerk reaction was, you know, the bottom six looked real good.
03:09 Top six was OK to start.
03:12 Didn't notice them as much as the game went on.
03:14 And defense and goaltending sort of won you that game,
03:19 which is what I expect to see more out of them this year.
03:23 So nothing, I mean, we'll get into like, you know,
03:26 Potra was a bright spot.
03:28 I thought Lauko was outstanding.
03:30 Yep.
03:31 But, you know, I wasn't blown away.
03:34 Also, the Blackhawks were the Blackhawks.
03:36 I mean, outside of Bedard, that is an Aaron roster.
03:40 There is not much going on there.
03:42 I mean, you know, they got a couple guys, like Seth Jones is a good defenseman.
03:46 Bedard obviously brings a lot.
03:48 I've always like a fantasy.
03:49 You know, they've got some young defensemen that I think are up and coming.
03:53 So they're not last year's Blackhawks.
03:55 But to your point, you know, they're not I don't even know if they're going to be a playoff.
04:00 Bedard's going to have to be pretty outstanding every single night, I think, for them to be a
04:03 playoff.
04:04 Yeah, I don't think I don't have them as a playoff team.
04:06 I think they're still far away.
04:08 I think in that, you know, I'm not a huge fan of what they're you know, what they have there.
04:13 Again, they're rebuilding.
04:14 So you can't expect anything crazy.
04:17 I agree.
04:18 Seth Jones just paid a lot.
04:19 And I think that sort of clouded my my judgment on him is, you know, he's paid so much used,
04:25 you know, looked like he was going to be a, you know, elite, elite defender in the league.
04:28 He's he's solid, but obviously not I don't think worth the money that they ended up giving him.
04:33 But yeah, I mean, I have Bedard somewhere around 70 to 80 points in his first year.
04:40 I think he just he's their main guy.
04:43 First power play, you know, number one center.
04:46 Like they have thrust him in this role and through the two games they, you know, they played
04:51 at the time of recording like he he does it all.
04:54 And he's so smart.
04:56 And he always has the puck on his stick.
04:57 He's generally a lot of offense.
04:59 He's getting a lot of exactly on that, making a lot of things happen.
05:02 Like he looks like he's the real deal.
05:03 The question is, you know, is he going to be like the other guys that kind of face of the
05:08 NHL franchise where they didn't really get a lot of peaks and valleys in that first year?
05:12 Like Sidney Crosby, McDavid, those guys were all pretty strong.
05:16 McDavid maybe a little bit physically had a little bit of a hard time that first year.
05:19 But for the most part, those guys didn't get injured.
05:22 Yes.
05:23 Injured his first year.
05:24 He did.
05:24 So for the most part, those guys have been studs right out of the gate.
05:28 And it'll be interesting to see if if if kind of Bedard is that exact kind of guy, too.
05:33 But to your point, there's definitely some a few things we'll go through with that three
05:39 to one win.
05:40 Very solid.
05:40 Milan Lucic was one of the ones that I noticed right off the gate.
05:45 And the fourth line, to your point, Jacob Loco, I thought was outstanding.
05:48 I agreed to I think that whole fourth line was really good.
05:50 I thought Johnny Beecher was excellent.
05:52 Loco was excellent.
05:53 Milan Lucic was really good.
05:54 They got the first starting nod from Jim Montgomery.
05:59 They were got that first shift of the game.
06:01 They almost scored and they brought energy right away.
06:04 And, you know, Lucic is obviously not going to be the fastest skater out there.
06:08 I think there's going to be times where it looks like he's sort of lagging behind the
06:11 action or playing catch up a little bit.
06:14 But like, you know, he he's a very underrated passer.
06:18 He's a very underrated guy as far as setting things up offensively when he gets in the
06:22 right spot.
06:23 It was a great pass that he made to Pasternak that Pasternak scored on, hit him at the perfect
06:28 place in transition, allowed him to go in and shoot.
06:30 And, you know, it's kind of similar to the setup pass he had for Mason Lowry's goal in
06:35 the preseason.
06:36 Again, an extremely smart pass, a veteran move, whereas I think his hands and his vision
06:42 are sometimes underrated where he can make things make plays happen out there.
06:45 But the physicality was there, too.
06:47 I think he brought a little bit of that.
06:49 Obviously, it was a great moment in intro introductions when he got an extended ovation
06:54 and got a kind of emotional and was, you know, parting his heart, just basically saying,
06:58 you know, showing them back the love of the fans.
07:00 All that was great.
07:02 And one thing, though, I want to touch on Lucic.
07:04 You mentioned the vision, and it's interesting because the two plays you mentioned, Lowry's
07:08 goal in the preseason and Pasternak's goal in the first game on Wednesday night, come
07:13 off the rush.
07:14 Like, that requires, you know, at least being able to handle the speed, which he was able
07:19 to do in those situations.
07:21 And just to add to that, like, I just, you know, you see the flashes of that former top
07:26 six forward who, with his big body, he's able to protect the puck so well, you know, when
07:33 they're when they're doing the cycle game and, you know, when they have it set up in
07:36 the offensive zone, that he's able to keep it away from defenders and heads up, able
07:41 to find a guy to pass it to.
07:43 So I agree.
07:44 I mean, his playmaking is terrific.
07:46 And Beecher and Patra, both, I think, strong in their debuts.
07:50 Beecher looked like he belonged on the fourth line.
07:52 The fourth line in general had a strong night.
07:55 He had a couple of chances.
07:57 He had that play where I threw a bad hit from behind a boarding penalty, and then he dropped
08:03 the gloves and he fought Dickinson, who's a pretty tough kid and held his own and, you
08:09 know, played the energy game, which is exactly what's going to be required of him.
08:13 It's what they want to see out of him, kind of sort of getting rid of the airs of being
08:18 a former first round pick in a U.S.
08:20 national development program kid and a kid that went to Michigan and, you know, a guy
08:25 that instead of all that stuff on his resume is going to get his hands dirty when he has
08:28 to and is going to play the energy game that they need and play the details game, killing
08:32 penalties, winning faceoffs, all that stuff that he was doing in that first game.
08:36 So he was impressive.
08:38 And Patra, obviously, I thought was really good, too, and continues to look like I think
08:44 he's going to stick around.
08:45 I'd be really surprised.
08:47 And I think the Bruins are going to have to see something drastic here in the nine games
08:51 to decide not to keep him around because he's kind of, you know, miraculously turned into
08:56 this exact thing that they needed at the exact right time, you know, like right when Bergeron
09:01 and Cratey were retiring, they needed somebody to like drop down from the heavens and be
09:05 like that center of the future and that guy that they may even during the season be able
09:09 to push up into the top two lines if he continues to show that he can handle things.
09:14 But they needed somebody like that.
09:16 And he's come out of nowhere and been that guy.
09:19 So like there's I think as far as the young players go and the way they perform in the
09:23 first game against the Blackhawks, it's exactly what you wanted to see.
09:27 The real challenge now and the question now is, can they keep it up night in, night out?
09:31 And that for every young player, it's the same.
09:33 Can they consistently bring what they're bringing now through the course of a season when they're
09:37 playing back to backs, when they're traveling, you know, they're going out to the West Coast
09:40 next week.
09:41 That's going to be a challenge as well.
09:43 Can they can they play the same way through all that stuff?
09:45 Part of why I think that part of why I think Patra is up here for good is he opens up so
09:50 many options in the lineup because, you know, come into the season, I think we were all
09:55 like, OK, you know, Montgomery had said, you know, even prior to the preseason, it's probably
09:59 going to be Zaka Koil down the middle.
10:00 And then, you know, we kind of all speculated probably Geeky is the third line center.
10:05 And then it's a battle for the fourth line center spot.
10:07 Yeah.
10:07 Now, I mean, with Patra in the mix, you know, my guess is in these next eight games of Patra's
10:15 stint here or sort of the trial test run, you'll see him in the top six at some point.
10:20 I think he should get up into the top six.
10:22 I want to see him with Marshan and DeBrusque or however you want to kind of finagle those
10:27 lines.
10:27 But then that allows you to put Koil as the three C and be a strong matchup dominator
10:32 down there.
10:33 It puts Geeky on the wing.
10:35 Now, you could argue Geeky is a little slower than most.
10:38 Maybe that's maybe he's better down the middle.
10:40 You can try that out if you really want to.
10:42 But again, it gives you that option of trying these guys around.
10:45 You got Beecher on the fourth line there.
10:47 And if you even wanted to kind of shake things up in the you know, if James Van Reem's like,
10:51 let's say, doesn't fit these next couple of games in the top six and you know, again,
10:56 we're all kind of waiting to see if that's going to work out or not.
11:00 You could always put a coil on the wing if you really wanted to.
11:05 Yeah.
11:06 And again, because Patra allows you to do that without Patra in the equation, that doesn't
11:11 really happen.
11:12 So that's why I don't see again, throughout the whole preseason, Hags, all I kept saying
11:18 was you send him back to the OHL.
11:20 It's good that he's doing this, but he needs some more time.
11:23 But over the course of the preseason games, you know, his game of intelligence, high skill,
11:31 you know, good on the details.
11:34 Tenacity too, like he wins battles.
11:36 He goes to the areas he needs to go to in the high danger area.
11:39 And he also has some like elusiveness to him where he doesn't take big hits either.
11:43 And he kind of can avoid those.
11:44 You know, he seems to have that thing, you know, where he can he can go where he needs
11:47 to go in the danger areas and not get squashed when he goes in there too often, which is
11:51 if you're his size and his age, you absolutely have to have that.
11:55 So like, yeah, that's important.
11:56 And he's showing it.
11:57 And to be and you have to have that because 82 games, like if you're getting walloped
12:02 in game 11 of the season, you know, you're not playing a full season.
12:05 But I just to me, like we've again, it's the we've seen the preseason games.
12:10 We've seen one game against the Blackhawks so far.
12:13 He's a pro like that's a pro center.
12:17 And with top six upside.
12:19 And I think, as you said, they needed a blessing.
12:23 They needed something.
12:24 And he seems to at least right now be sort of that thing.
12:28 Yeah.
12:28 And the other part of that is to like in part of the equation of like, do you send him back
12:33 to golf and the O.H.L. is he had 95 points in that league last year.
12:38 Yeah.
12:39 But playing for that team like he was pretty dominant last year.
12:42 Like how much more is he going to develop if you're sending him back down there and
12:45 he's just going to like toss up another 100 points like, yes, you could say maybe, you know,
12:49 he only I think had 16 goals for golf.
12:51 So like maybe he could have worked on his own offense and scoring a little bit more, whatever.
12:56 But like if you're putting up 95 points in the O.H.L.
12:59 like at that point, you're getting pretty close to like being ready for pro hockey.
13:03 Like I don't know how much more he had to prove going back there.
13:06 And in that respect, I think being here and the fact that he belongs here and he shows
13:11 he can play here, it's going to be better for his development and it's going to fast
13:14 forward it more rather than send him to a place where he was just going to dominate
13:17 again for another season.
13:18 So like, yeah, my my thinking on sending him back was more so you couldn't send him to
13:24 Providence.
13:24 Because has there ever been a player more like where Providence would have been the
13:29 perfect fit for at the beginning of the preseason?
13:30 Like when before games have been played, it was like, that's a guy who should be in
13:34 Providence, can't be in Providence.
13:36 And my whole thinking was, OK, you sort of have your guys at the NHL level.
13:40 Let Zaka and Coyle be top six centers for a year, see how it goes.
13:44 Potts will come in next year fully ready.
13:46 Now, you also have to take into consideration and you hit this, had a lot of points last
13:50 year.
13:51 You don't want him to get not that he would get like, because I don't think it's in
13:54 his makeup to be like this.
13:55 But bad habits start to form when you start to play inferior competition and things like
13:59 that.
14:00 So as the preseason went along and those that last stretch of games like two weeks ago
14:06 took place, the back to back and then the game in New York.
14:09 Once he was pretty clear back, I think they were convinced like what looked good in the
14:14 second night of a back to back.
14:15 And he showed some legs and he scored a goal in the third pair.
14:17 I think that was all they need.
14:18 I think that was a direct test to see if he could handle the NHL schedule and he passed.
14:23 Once he did that, I think their minds were kind of like, all right, this kid, this kid
14:26 shown he's he belongs.
14:27 We've thrown every roadblock in front of him and he's just hopped over them.
14:30 So, you know, watch her look good, beat her, look good.
14:34 Allmark, I thought, looks solid.
14:36 I was wondering about him and how he was going to respond and look coming off the playoffs
14:41 last year.
14:41 And, you know, I thought he would probably end up looking like himself.
14:45 And I think regular season, he's kind of got it figured out.
14:47 And, you know, I worry or I'm concerned or have questions still about the postseason,
14:52 but with him and Swaman.
14:54 But, you know, I wanted to make sure he was going to look like the calm, cool, positional
14:59 guy that was making all the stops he needed to make.
15:01 That wasn't this frenetic, like, you know, too much activity in the crease like he was
15:06 in the playoffs, like taking himself out of plays and, you know, creating bad goals because
15:11 he was way too overreactive.
15:12 Like he was right back to himself in that game against Chicago, which I took as a very
15:16 good sign as well, you know, because the goaltending is going to be so important to this team's
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15:58 Yeah, goaltending and defense are the kind of the bedrock of this group.
16:02 You know, it's funny.
16:02 I thought he was fine.
16:03 There was one or two saves that, again, it's first game of the regular season with Coles.
16:09 It's hard to judge off of that.
16:10 Like, you know, I think, what did he get one game in the preseason?
16:13 Like, I don't think he got that many.
16:15 It's still early.
16:17 There were a few that I was like, oh, you know, there was one off a rush.
16:20 I forget who shot it from Chicago, but it just, I think it might've been Bedard.
16:23 It just kind of like was kind of under Olmark and he fell back on it.
16:27 OK, but look, I've been, you know, I think he is obviously no one's projecting him to
16:34 be the exact same goalie he was last year when he won the Vezda and was the best regular
16:38 season goalie that led the best regular season team ever.
16:41 But, you know, it would not shock me if Swayman sort of passed him this year.
16:47 Yeah, I said that on the podcast.
16:49 I think you and I are on the same page with that.
16:51 I think that may happen.
16:52 Yeah, and I don't think that's a testament to Olmark not being good.
16:56 I think it's just sort of the way it works, the way Swayman's development is heading.
17:00 And, you know, again, there was, you know, the stuff in the offseason with
17:05 with Olmark and whether or not he'd be traded or this or that.
17:07 And, you know, you sort of wonder how that plays into his game this year.
17:11 But again, through one game, got them to win, looked fairly solid doing it again.
17:16 It's hard to judge goalies off their first couple of games in the regular season
17:20 because it's, you know, it's not prime time for them.
17:23 But yeah, I agree with you on that.
17:25 And just overall, I think they all shot Chicago like 34 to 21, something like that.
17:31 I just in general, I think they were outshot in every single preseason game, the Bruins.
17:35 So I had a little bit of concern just about puck possession, the centers,
17:38 like the whole picture of what it was going to look like when the regular season started.
17:42 But I also had the caveat of, you know, guys like Marchand and Pasternak were
17:47 clearly going through preseason motions during the preseason.
17:49 The guys that, you know, knew they were going to be on the team were not going at full speed.
17:53 So like just to see it all in action on Wednesday night, I liked what I saw.
17:57 And I was encouraged by what I saw, that we're going to continue to see a team that's going to
18:01 win, you know, plenty of games, put themselves in a good playoff position, is not going to beat
18:05 themselves and is going to be able to, you know, rely on the defense and goaltending and the
18:10 occasional offense to win, even if, you know, the power play, I didn't think it was great
18:15 against Chicago.
18:17 And the top two lines are still figuring out as they're sort of still figuring those things out.
18:21 I think they're still going to be able to put themselves in a good position.
18:24 So I was encouraged by that.
18:25 - Well, God forbid David Pasternak score that empty netter.
18:28 I mean, that's just, that's uncool.
18:30 You can't do that.
18:31 - Hey, Marchand gave it up to him.
18:32 Marchand could have tried and scored that one, but he wanted to set up his guy, you know, like
18:36 get him another 60 this year.
18:38 Why not?
18:38 - I loved, I loved, you and I always love to get into the Felger stuff.
18:41 I loved that take of like, why is Felger, Felger, why is Pasternak on the ice at the end of a game
18:46 like that?
18:46 It's like, is that, is that really your take from game one?
18:50 Is that really what you're going to, the hill you're going to die on?
18:53 - Do I want the guy that's like the dynamic game breaking goal scorer to be on the ice
18:57 to when the empty, the net is empty to try to end the game right then and there.
19:01 Yeah.
19:01 And especially when he's like a decent two way player.
19:03 Like, yeah, I think I'm going to do that.
19:05 You know, like, especially in this day and age, like Bergeron's not here anymore.
19:09 Creechie's not here anymore.
19:10 Like you're, Pasternak is one of their best players.
19:12 Like he's going to be on the ice in those situations.
19:14 Like you need to rewire your brain to like, think about it and be like, okay,
19:18 he's one of the guys now he's going to be in every situation.
19:21 - Yeah.
19:22 Patrice Bergeron not walking through that door.
19:24 David Creechie not walking through that door.
19:25 Contrary to people in my Twitter replies, Hags being like, I think, I think Creechie
19:29 and Bergeron are coming back in January.
19:31 It's like, oh, are they?
19:32 - Well, when Bergeron talked to us the other night before the game on Wednesday,
19:37 he basically admitted like his body clock is kind of telling him it's hockey time.
19:41 And you know, he's, he's sort of going through that and, you know, adjusting to that.
19:45 And he, but he also said he knew what was going to come.
19:48 And he's, you know, he's figuring it out and he's just going to work his way through it
19:51 as the season goes on, but it's just a natural, like that guy's been doing this his entire life.
19:56 You know, like he's never known what it's like to like, not be a hockey player at this time of year
20:03 and to be getting ready for a hockey season.
20:05 So it's like something totally foreign and different for him.
20:07 Of course, he's going to, you know, his body's going to feel that way
20:10 or he's going to start to have pangs.
20:11 Like I want to come back, but like, you know, at the end of it all, he said the same thing.
20:15 I'm at peace with my decision.
20:17 I made the right decision.
20:18 You know, I think physically it was going to be really difficult for him to ramp up and be ready.
20:24 And I think you just got to a point where it just, you know, the amount of work he was going
20:28 to have to put in and how difficult that was going to be on his body physically.
20:31 And also worrying about like, it was going to have lasting impacts on him.
20:34 Like after his career was over, like some of the injuries that he was playing through.
20:38 I think all of that stuff played in along with being a part, bigger part of his kids'
20:43 lives, driving them to things.
20:44 He's now coaching his son's hockey team.
20:46 Like all the stuff that he's always wanted to do personally, that he was just too busy
20:50 to do when he was the captain of an NHL team, he's able to do now.
20:53 And I don't think there's any way he's going to push that stuff aside and be like, oh,
20:57 I'm going to jump on the Bruins train and play like at the end of the year and go into
21:00 the playoffs.
21:01 And David Creechie like was all smiles the other night, seemed super happy, super at
21:05 ease, super relaxed.
21:07 You know, he's talking about running a half marathons with his wife down in South Carolina.
21:11 He's golfing and like.
21:12 He's competing with Chara on the marathons.
21:14 I said he wasn't going to do that.
21:16 He was like, I'm curious what my time would be in the half marathon.
21:18 He's like, but I'm nowhere near Chara territory.
21:20 He's going out and running crazy marathons.
21:23 So like, but like those guys both to me, they seemed happy when I was talking to them.
21:27 Like they're OK with not being NHL players anymore.
21:30 And like I think fans need to wrap around it.
21:33 You know, I don't have it in front of me, the quote, but I actually talked to Luchich
21:37 about this and it was part of the sub stack column I wrote today of the Bruins are turning
21:41 the page on Bergeron and crazy was Luchich was like, you know, we've talked a lot in
21:46 this pre preseason about the guys that aren't here and the players that aren't here anymore.
21:50 It's time to focus on everybody that's in the room, the players that are here and the
21:53 players we're going out to battle with, like to start the season.
21:56 And I thought it was the perfect time to say that.
21:58 And it was absolutely right that the season opener with crazy and Bergeron not there up
22:03 in the stands, cheering the team on and then going out and winning was the perfect time
22:07 to turn the page on the past and those players that retired.
22:10 And focus on what we have now with the Boston Bruins moving forward for the year.
22:15 Yeah, I agree with you.
22:16 And the other thing is like, I don't think this would have ever happened to Bergeron
22:20 because I think he obviously he has a good idea of his own body.
22:23 But if he came back this year and it did take him a while to ramp up and he wasn't the same
22:29 player and it's like, ah, when you know, like, you know, David Ortiz ended his career.
22:34 Perfect time, right?
22:35 Like went out with like 40 home runs.
22:37 Perfect.
22:37 Whereas you see a lot of guys, you know, overextend their stay and they sort of start
22:43 to fall off.
22:44 And it would have been really bad to see that again.
22:46 I don't think that would have happened to him.
22:48 No, but, you know, as he mentioned, you know, having to sort of ramp up his body and stuff,
22:52 and it would have been a little tougher.
22:53 So, you know, as you said, those guys seem very at peace.
22:56 Good for them.
22:57 Incredible careers.
22:58 Made the all centennial team.
23:00 I just watched that this afternoon.
23:01 Did you watch it?
23:02 I did.
23:03 I watched the whole thing.
23:04 What did you think?
23:05 Well, I thought it was really uncool when you went over to Ty Anderson and slammed his
23:09 head into his laptop.
23:11 I thought that was over over Brad Park.
23:13 I thought that was really offensive.
23:14 I was like, stop trying to get Roy Conaker on the all centennial team, you nerd.
23:18 Nerd, you know, I thought that was great when they were like, does anyone have an argument
23:25 for Roy Conaker?
23:26 And Ty was like, yeah, when I see him up with those names, just maybe, maybe that wasn't
23:30 the perfect fit.
23:31 You know what I told Ty afterwards that I don't remember if I actually said during the
23:36 debate, if I said afterwards, I appreciated he contributed the deep cut to the discussion.
23:41 Yeah, that was in there.
23:41 He went for one of the deep cuts and tried to throw him in there.
23:45 And I appreciate it.
23:46 I thought that was good.
23:47 That was good.
23:48 No, it was great, though.
23:49 You know, it's funny, like it was a cool history lesson for me because I was not obviously
23:54 I was not a part of the voting or anything.
23:55 So I did not do the deep dives on some of the older generational players.
24:01 I imagine for you, it was really cool to like just to go back and compare the errors.
24:05 I was saying this to Connor and poke the bear, like it's and especially like in net, the
24:09 goal tending discussion was the most interesting.
24:12 It was because it's impossible because you're comparing the chevers era with Brim Saks era
24:18 and tiny Thompson and Raskin Thomas and like tiny all different heads for Vezina trophies.
24:24 And he didn't make the all centennial team like I know, crazy.
24:27 Now, I'll go nuts for business and he didn't make it like and that's why when I hear the
24:32 people complain about Thomas and Raskin and snubbed them like no tiny Thompson got snubbed
24:37 like he was one of the two initially.
24:39 The initial initially, I think I was going with I who did I have?
24:46 I had tiny Thompson.
24:47 I want to say Brim Saks.
24:48 I think I went to totally old school with the two that I picked.
24:51 Like I really want to get Tim Thomas in there because I still feel like that was the best
24:59 season in NHL goalies put up all time ever that 2011 season like he should have been
25:04 the hard trophy winner that season.
25:05 You know, he was just on another planet and I when you look at the numbers, when you look
25:10 at his performances that entire year beginning to end like he I think that's the best season
25:16 of goalies ever put up in the history of the game like and so that deserves serious
25:21 consideration.
25:22 Obviously, and he had two Vesna trophies and you know, he had a good career even if it
25:28 was truncated because he didn't you know, get to the NHL until he was in his 30s and
25:32 you know by the end it was, you know, he was kind of going from team to team a little bit.
25:36 But you know, I thought he definitely deserved consideration for the season he had but like
25:43 when you look at the body of work, I just don't think it's stacked up with the other
25:47 guys, you know, Brimseck and Cheever's both had two Stanley Cups Hall of Fame careers
25:53 like Cheever's individually wasn't as dominant as some of the other players, but I think
25:57 he was kind of the Grant Fjord sort of of those Bruins teams that won the cup, you know,
26:03 like statistically wasn't the best goalie out there, but like I don't know if you can
26:07 totally value what he did on statistics.
26:09 I think he was a great clutch goaltender and winning goaltender when you need it to be
26:12 and there's something to be said for that and Tuka was kind of the opposite of Tim
26:16 Thomas. Yes, where he had the career wins, he had the numbers, there's no question about
26:22 it, but he didn't have a cup, you know, he wasn't able to, he got to two Stanley Cup
26:27 finals and he wasn't able to help them get over the hump, whereas Tim Thomas threw shutouts
26:32 in game seven of the Eastern Conference final and the Stanley Cup final during 2011 when
26:37 they won, like he slammed the door and made sure they were not going to lose that those
26:42 games because he didn't allow a single goal in either one of those games.
26:45 You can't say the same about game sevens with Tuka Rask when everything was on the
26:48 line.
26:50 So, you know, I understand the argument people are making that like he had this great career
26:54 and longevity and everything else and I love Tuka personally, but I just don't think you
26:58 can look at guys that have Hall of Fame credentials, multiple Stanley Cups, multiple Veznas and
27:04 say, no, I'm going to take Tuka with one Vezna and two Stanley Cup final appearances
27:08 over them, you know?
27:10 Yeah, it's funny when I first looked at the list on Thursday night when it came out and
27:14 I was like, oh, no Rask or Thomas.
27:15 You know, you think maybe one would make it Rask with all the, you know, franchise accolades
27:22 and Thomas with that great run.
27:24 But then you do dive deeper into it and you look at Chevers' impact and Brimsack's impact
27:29 and Tiny Thompson's impact and it's like, oh, wow, like it's, and it's different, you
27:34 know, it's a huge discussion and that's why, I mean, it was so close because it came down
27:40 to Tim Thomas and Jerry Chevers for that last spot.
27:45 So I, you know, like I can't pick two out of that.
27:48 I can't.
27:49 I mean, I think like when you really look at it, I think, I think, you know, Brimsack
27:53 was correct.
27:54 I think again, the Chevers one is up for discussion, you know, just is it, you know, do you value
28:00 how much Orr had an impact on Chevers and his good play and all those things and, you
28:05 know, and like Thomas has a valid thing to be on there.
28:09 Rask does.
28:11 Thomas the only thing against him, I think it's just the, you know, I know obviously
28:14 came to the NHL late, but it just wasn't here super long.
28:18 And I think, you know, that's sort of the thing against him.
28:20 And then Rask, I mean, if Rask had, if they win it 19, like Rask is on the all centennial
28:26 team, right?
28:27 Like I would assume so.
28:28 If he had a cup, I think he would have made it.
28:30 Yeah.
28:31 If they had won it in 2019, I think so.
28:33 But that's like, you know, that when you define greatness or legends, like you have to win,
28:39 you have to win, you know, to truly be a legend, to truly be great and to be considered, especially
28:45 side by side against players that have won multiple cups, you have to win at least one.
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30:09 When I was watching it, there were a lot of forwards in D that were put up there that
30:14 were with the Bruins for, you know, even four or five, six years who had really good, strong
30:20 seasons here.
30:21 Like an Adam Oates was up for it.
30:24 And you know, it was, well, no, he wasn't here long enough.
30:27 Whereas Thomas is different because Thomas won a cup and Thomas carried them to a cup
30:32 where it just means more.
30:34 I mean, he was only here from what?
30:36 Oh six through it was oh five through 2012.
30:39 That was his last year.
30:42 So you know, really six, I think six or seven seasons in there.
30:47 But again, the impact is forever because of that cup.
30:51 And then you could, someone made the point on the, in the, in the recording that, you
30:56 know, Creechie, Marshan, Bergeron, Chara are mainly on that all centennial team because
31:04 of what Thomas did and what Thomas was able to do.
31:08 I think Bergeron and Chara make it without question if there was no cup.
31:13 But you know, the other two, I think it's closer if they don't have one.
31:15 Maybe, but like those Marshan and Bergeron, Marshan and Creechie are both top 10 Bruins
31:21 all time in scoring goals.
31:23 Like every, like they've got the credentials too.
31:25 So it's like, you know, and I know I think it was Emily Benjamin was talking about recency
31:30 bias when we were discussing the, you know, the whole thing.
31:34 And it's like, and we, you know, what we said in the meeting, I'm sure it's in the video
31:38 is like, this is one of the golden eras of the Boston Bruins.
31:40 Like it's not a bias.
31:41 It's like, this is one of the great eras.
31:43 So you have to recognize all these players.
31:45 It's been almost 20 years from these eras.
31:47 Yeah.
31:48 Where they're making the playoffs every year.
31:49 And they've been to the Stanley cup finals multiple times.
31:51 Like, you know, the Centennial team is going to be filled with the players from the best
31:56 eras where they won the cups and the teams that were, you know, Uber successful.
32:00 And then that's exactly what's going on with the group that's on there now.
32:05 And I think every single player, the only one that I think there's a, any kind of a
32:08 legitimate debate on is Pasternak being on there because it's just too soon.
32:13 He's mid career right now.
32:15 And has he, has he stacked up enough, you know, to be on there instead of like going
32:20 Cooney Weiland was one I know that was a strong consideration and old time player, you know,
32:27 that had a, had a great career.
32:30 Did he deserve it over a guy like that?
32:32 That's a hall of famer.
32:33 That's one of the old time best players of all time.
32:35 And, you know, Lionel Hitchman was another one that was really difficult to keep off
32:39 because he was defenseman that has his number of tiredness in the hall of fame too.
32:43 So like, you know, there was a few players like that, that I think those were the ones
32:47 that honestly, nobody's going to argue for them because they played like a zillion years
32:51 ago and like fans aren't as passionate about it right now.
32:54 But like if anybody's going to have a gripe about being bumped or you know, like not being
32:59 snubbed, it would be Lionel Hitchman and you know, Cooney Weiland and those kinds of guys,
33:04 it wouldn't be the goaltending, which, you know, I think we, no matter which way you
33:08 go, you're going to have two great choices.
33:10 Yeah.
33:11 I'm almost surprised they did.
33:12 I get why they went 12-6-2, but you could have made an argument for 12-6-3, I guess.
33:17 Right.
33:18 You could have had a third goalie for sure.
33:20 Yeah.
33:21 And that's the other thing is like, do you want to have a third goalie?
33:23 But I'm happy with how it turned out.
33:25 It was really compelling to watch just from the perspective of kind of seeing how every
33:30 decision was made.
33:31 There were obviously ones that were not obvious.
33:33 I was surprised Marcian went up for future consideration.
33:36 I was too.
33:38 When I nominated him, I was, I think it was Emily that did, that said that.
33:41 Yes.
33:42 Matt Porter.
33:43 And I was looking at both of them like, are you kidding me?
33:44 Yeah.
33:45 I was surprised at that.
33:46 Why didn't they consider this more?
33:47 Like he's a slam dunk just like Bergeron is.
33:48 Yeah.
33:49 Bergeron a little more.
33:51 But yeah, you know, Marcian is right there and yeah, I was surprised that he was, and
33:56 he went off the board quick though.
33:57 I mean, he was not on there for very long.
34:00 Yeah.
34:01 But yeah, heck of a, heck of a performance by all of you.
34:03 Yeah, it was, it was fun.
34:04 We had a really good time.
34:05 A shout out to the Bruins for putting that together.
34:08 I think everything that they've done with the Centennial has been great.
34:12 And like, I'm not surprised.
34:13 And I was saying this to somebody the other night, like they're an original six organization
34:17 that gets it and they do all the pomp and circumstance things and these kinds of, you
34:22 know, big milestone historic moments.
34:24 They do them right.
34:25 Just like the Montreal Canadians do.
34:26 When you go up there for any kind of a ceremony, you know, you're in for something special
34:29 because they get out all the legends and everybody comes and it's like, they, they do it with
34:34 a lot of class and dignity and, and you know, the, the, the respect that it deserves.
34:38 And it's pretty cool to be a part of it too.
34:41 And to, you know, see the inner workings of it.
34:42 But I, it was privileged and honored to be a part of that committee.
34:46 And I thank the Bruins for, for including me and everybody else that was on it.
34:50 All right.
34:51 We're going to get to a little mailbag.
34:52 We're going to zoom through this pretty quick, Evan.
34:54 All right, let's do it.
34:55 And some of these are things that we've already covered, so we can just breeze through them.
34:59 Aldred two, two, four says Brimseck over Thomas Rask or Thompson is kind of nuts.
35:04 All right.
35:05 I don't think so.
35:06 Brimseck's a legend, so I don't think it's nuts at all.
35:07 Yeah.
35:08 The more I think about Brimseck, the more he does deserve that number.
35:10 It's a no brainer.
35:11 Come on.
35:12 Yeah.
35:13 Without Tim Thomas, they haven't won a cup since 1972.
35:15 He should have been unanimous from Ryan Jay 7,800.
35:19 Like I, you know, I would have loved to have seen Tim Thomas on there.
35:23 You know, I would have loved to have seen it.
35:24 But like I said, like, I just don't think when you compare him to, I don't, he's not
35:28 going to end up.
35:29 He's not going to end up winning the hall of fame because his career wasn't long enough,
35:32 you know, and he's right there because he's a great story and he's, you know, was a dominant
35:36 goalie for four or five years.
35:39 One two Veznas won the cup, but like, you know, you can't, you can't put them in over
35:43 guys that are in the hall of fame, had great careers in their eras and won multiple Veznas
35:49 and multiple cups and everything.
35:50 Multiple cups.
35:51 It was like, obviously, yes, we all value the 2011 cup more than any other cup because
35:56 it was the one, like, that's the only cup I've been alive for.
35:59 It was special to me.
36:00 It's a big deal for me, but there were more before.
36:03 And I think you have to take those into consideration.
36:04 All right.
36:05 And this is my favorite, this knucklehead right here.
36:07 You've never, ever, you've never even seen tiny Thompson's play yet.
36:10 You would have had them on your all centennial team.
36:13 Comments like this just make being named to the team a moot point anyway.
36:16 And my, my response to this, this M hands nine doofus was like, I didn't see Bobby or
36:22 play alive.
36:23 I was not allowed to see Bobby or play.
36:24 I was not old enough to remember Bobby or playing.
36:26 Should I not vote him on the all centennial team or nominate him because I did not see
36:29 him play?
36:30 No, that's such a stupid point.
36:32 I'm not even going to like address it anymore, but I wanted to include him in here just to
36:36 kick him around a little bit.
36:38 I can't talk about anybody like pre 2000, I can't talk about anybody.
36:43 Yeah.
36:44 You can't even talk about Cam Neely, right?
36:45 Like, Oh, can't do it.
36:46 Ray Bork can't do that either.
36:48 Do you not, do you really not remember Cam Neely?
36:50 Did we use that before your time?
36:52 I mean, I was born in 99.
36:54 So holy crap, dude.
36:55 Yeah.
36:56 I mean, I know I do.
36:57 I don't remember.
36:58 I don't remember Cam Neely playing at all.
36:59 I've seen videos obviously, but yeah, it's before my time.
37:03 It was quite a spectacle to behold, Evan.
37:06 Let me tell you.
37:07 I mean, you're, you know, your kids were born like around 2011.
37:10 So they're like, you're going to be like, do you ever Tim Thomas?
37:12 You're going to be like, who's that?
37:14 Like 2013, uh, like two months after they, they were in the cup final against Blackhawk.
37:19 So he has no, he has not been alive for a Stanley cup win.
37:22 You know, he's like, he can't talk.
37:24 He, you know, God, if he ever talked about rich Peverly, Chris Kelly, Mark Reckie, can't
37:27 talk about him.
37:28 Can't talk about him.
37:29 I will tell you though.
37:30 He's like, I, I'm proud of him because he's developing like an appreciation for the history
37:34 of the game.
37:35 Like, I don't know how this happened.
37:37 I don't know what happened to make this happen, but I am super grateful that it happened.
37:40 Bobby or started following me on Twitter the other day.
37:42 Oh, geez.
37:43 Like, I was like, this is frigging awesome.
37:47 And the first thing I said to Finn was guess who's following me now on Twitter and is going
37:51 to see your hockey videos.
37:52 And I post them of you scoring goals.
37:53 I'm like, I'll be frigging or, and he was like, Oh my God.
37:57 He was like, psych.
37:58 He was like running around the house fist pumping.
37:59 So thank you.
38:00 You made Finn's day.
38:02 And I still am hoping Bobby someday that when I'm with you at one of these events, I can
38:07 just call my dad on the phone, hand the phone over to you and you can talk to him for like
38:11 five minutes.
38:12 Cause he is, you are his hero.
38:13 So shout out Bobby or thanks for following me on Twitter.
38:16 I appreciate it.
38:17 That's awesome.
38:18 Oh, unbelievable.
38:19 Matt Lambo, 24 says Thomas felt like an obvious consideration, but not here long enough.
38:24 Rask I'm surprised wasn't in franchise leaders leader in many categories, led them to two
38:28 cup final both seasons with numbers similar to 2011 Thomas, but ring counting is always
38:33 going to hang over him.
38:35 That is exactly right.
38:36 Lambo 20, Matt Lambo, 24.
38:38 Great observation.
38:39 Next.
38:40 I wonder if TNT even knew this kid's name talking about Matt Patra because it was Connor
38:47 this Connor that I called his number number 51.
38:51 The minute I saw him on the ice, I knew he would be amazing.
38:53 Congrats Patra from Maria Gonzalez on Facebook.
38:57 And I heard multiple complaints about this on Twitter that TNT was going gaga crazy over
39:03 Conor Bradard and like not mentioning, like he whistled the one over the crossbar on a
39:07 shot from the high slot.
39:09 Didn't even hit the net and they were just going nuts about how great he was.
39:12 Kenny Albert's legs went like little jiggly, you know, he's like, Whoa, you know, I, what
39:16 I love is, uh, you know, I saw Instagram posts today for Friday from, um, the open ice account.
39:24 And it was like, you know, the national Connor Bradard tour, it was every national game he
39:27 had and all the comments were like this.
39:30 I'm so sick of this.
39:31 This is so stupid, all this stuff.
39:32 And you feel bad because it's not the kid's fault.
39:34 Like, like, but Darge is not asking for any of this.
39:36 That's why Martian had the perfect response to there.
39:39 He's like, yeah, I leave that kind of guy alone.
39:41 So yeah, I mean, it's, I obviously I didn't watch the TNT broadcast the other night.
39:46 I didn't either.
39:47 I was there with you.
39:48 But, but yeah, I didn't hear great things about, I'm a TNT over ESPN guy.
39:52 I think TNT does a phenomenal job.
39:54 I think they both do a great job, but I appreciate like the personality that biz and the guys
39:59 in the studio do with the TNT, uh, studio show.
40:02 I think they do it right.
40:03 Yeah.
40:04 I think TNT, uh, laps ESPN right now, at least.
40:07 So we'll see.
40:08 PK is bringing something though.
40:10 I'm actually, let's see what PK has to say.
40:12 So I think they've got like a budding star at ESPN too.
40:15 And it's got some personality and like, I don't know if you saw this the other day,
40:18 but Pat McAfee did like a segment on his show on the NHL.
40:21 I heard about this.
40:22 NHL is awesome or whatever.
40:23 It was like a seven minute say, watch it.
40:25 It was great.
40:26 And like the, the more guys like biz and PK and Pat McAfee that have personality that
40:32 can tell the game and make it fun and interesting, the better, because I'm telling you right
40:35 now, like Finn, my son loves biz.
40:37 He loves watching TNT.
40:39 He loves biz is like love affair with the Maple Leafs and like all the stuff that he
40:42 does that's fun in the studio.
40:45 And that's what it's about.
40:46 It's not about us and what we think it's about like what the kids think and what they're
40:50 entertained by and what's going to draw them and make them love hockey.
40:53 And guys like biz and Pat McAfee are all about it.
40:55 So the other thing is, and it is, I don't want to go on too far of a tangent with this,
41:00 but like ESPN to me, uh, you know, you, they, they just have too much.
41:05 They have so much.
41:06 So a lot of their coverage of events is very uniform.
41:09 It's the same desk, three people, persons, one speaks, two speaks, three speaks.
41:14 And it's just, you know, they don't put it, there's not a lot of creativity and things
41:17 because there's just too many things there.
41:19 When I was at NCAA, I mean they have like every sport.
41:22 It's all covered the same.
41:23 In my opinion, I'm, you know, I'm not the be all end all, but I agree.
41:27 It comes down to what the kids want and personality drives everything.
41:30 It always does.
41:31 Always does.
41:32 You got to make it fun and at any level, any sport.
41:35 Um, Lucic played a great role.
41:38 He went to the corners when his line was on the ice.
41:40 He made many nice passes in the skating was possibly the best part of his game.
41:44 I don't.
41:45 All right.
41:46 I'm not going to go that far.
41:47 I thought it was adequate.
41:48 It was, it was definitely where it needed to be.
41:50 And I thought he's in very good shape in this camp and it showed like he's able to keep
41:53 up.
41:54 That's all you want to ask out of him.
41:55 Agreed.
41:56 Um, he has a couple more years possibly.
41:57 He looked really good out there and can play on any line during the game.
42:00 I would think line four will open many games.
42:03 The bruiser Costa, uh, on Facebook.
42:06 Yeah.
42:07 I think Jim Montgomery likes to open the games with the fourth line and start them
42:11 a energy line a lot.
42:12 Like I, I personally really liked the way Jim Montgomery coaches because he involves
42:18 everybody.
42:19 He's like the, um, the, the prototypical hockey coach that makes sure everybody's involved.
42:24 Doesn't want anybody to be a healthy scratch for too long and make sure, make sure that
42:28 they play.
42:29 Um, you are no, that was actually John Zanis.
42:32 I wish it was Bobby.
42:33 Uh, I mean, it would make sure everybody plays and nobody sits up in the press box for too
42:37 long.
42:38 Make sure the fourth line feels like they're, uh, they're important and invested.
42:42 Make sure the bottom pairing gets involved.
42:44 Make sure guys play enough minutes where they don't feel like they're just sitting there
42:48 as being grocery sticks as Brad Marsh and calls them on the bench when he trashed guys
42:53 that don't play like, like, I love that Montgomery does that kind of stuff because I think it
42:58 brings everybody together and it creates that team environment that you're always looking
43:02 for on any hockey team.
43:04 And I think he does that in an incredibly good way.
43:06 Yeah, I, I agree.
43:08 I think it's good.
43:09 A fourth line was solid.
43:10 Um, I'm curious to see what their usage is against, you know, your hurricanes, your maple
43:15 leafs, those teams, how they fare against them.
43:18 You know, I remember, you know, with Cassidy, that fourth line was sort of a shutdown line
43:22 of, you know, you know, the Corrale line, can they shut down the other team's top line?
43:27 I don't know if Beecher Lauko and, and Lou Cheech are going to do that.
43:30 They might, you know, I feel like they're more going to be an energy line for check
43:33 the hell out of the team, you know, put them through the glass, get some energy going,
43:37 which is great.
43:38 Um, but I'm curious to see what they look like against better teams.
43:41 That's my big thing with that.
43:42 Yeah, for sure.
43:43 And I think it'll be, they may get better defensively as the season goes on to their
43:46 young players like Beecher, I think, and, and Loco both have the tools to be very good
43:51 defensive forwards.
43:52 Um, so I think that's something that could grow into.
43:54 I know we're talking to Loco.
43:56 Uh, he really wants to get more involved on the PK this year and get more minutes penalty
44:00 killing.
44:01 And I think his, his grit, his speed and the tenaciousness that he plays with and his ability
44:06 to every once in a while pop a short hand a goal and be, you know, a threat offensively
44:10 make could make him a very, very good penalty killer.
44:12 So that could help him, uh, generate, uh, more in that direction too.
44:17 Um, that'll be interesting.
44:19 Um, a work in progress.
44:21 Maybe this year it'll be the other way around where they get a wild card instead of being
44:25 the president's trophy winner and make it to the Eastern conference finals from Steven
44:28 Gilman and maybe, you know what?
44:30 I, I, and look, look at the Florida Panthers last year, right?
44:33 They were the president's trophy the year before last year, they barely got in as the
44:37 wild card, the last seed, and then they make it all the way to the finals because they
44:40 were good and healthy at the right time of the year.
44:44 Um, I, I don't like foresee that for the Boston Bruins.
44:48 I don't see them going that far.
44:50 I think, you know, they're going to make the playoffs as a wild card and maybe like a one
44:53 round two round thing just this year as they transition.
44:56 But like, you know, obviously anybody would love to see a long run from a team that they're
45:00 covering.
45:01 Yeah.
45:02 I have them third place in the Atlantic out in the first round.
45:04 That's what I've got.
45:05 So I hope I'm wrong.
45:06 I hope they go deep.
45:07 I hope it's great for, it's great content for us.
45:09 Makes our lives easier.
45:10 Um, but, and, but you know what?
45:12 I think even if they're out in the first round with the development of Patra potentially
45:15 low ride Beecher, um, they're headed in the right direction.
45:19 Yep.
45:20 So I don't think that's a bad thing.
45:21 A hundred percent agree.
45:22 All right.
45:23 We're going to end with this one, Evan.
45:24 Um, Oh, hold on.
45:26 Proud and honored to know and have skated some with him.
45:30 Jim Thomas is a good man.
45:31 He came out of our area.
45:32 This must be somebody from Michigan, from Flint, the summer pickup games, the travel
45:36 program in the high school program in this area.
45:38 I taught a beginner skater program for adults at our local rank.
45:41 And during summers, he would often skate on the ice just after my class finished.
45:45 Now he's out on the ice alone, skating and moving, doing the things he felt he needed
45:48 to do to prepare for the upcoming training camps and tryouts and the like.
45:52 And my student skaters would stand there in awe of how good that guy on the ice could
45:56 skate and move wearing all that goalie gear.
45:59 And they'd ask me, who is that guy?
46:01 And I'd tell them his name.
46:02 And if they knew his name, well, you could see it on their faces.
46:05 All of us here send our support to him and his family because he is still part of our
46:09 hockey family.
46:10 And that's from Michael crane on Facebook.
46:12 That's a cool little, um, snapshot into who Tim Thomas is.
46:16 And like, it was great to see him, uh, come back to the garden.
46:20 Great to see him get an ovation that he desperately sorely needed, like deserved, um, before the
46:25 game started.
46:26 And I think that was, he had earned that, uh, ovation a long time ago and it was nice
46:29 to be able to see him get that.
46:31 Um, so like it's, I, and there's a million stories about him like that, uh, just overcoming
46:36 the odds and, you know, being a guy that was working himself, uh, to exhaustion to, to
46:41 try to make it and hang onto it once he did get there and he did it.
46:46 And it was cool to see him kind of say that like, you know, he's a day to day guy and
46:51 he doesn't think about the stuff that he's accomplished, but like nights, weeks like
46:54 this where they do the Centennial kinds of reminds him of like how great he was and the
46:58 things that he accomplished and the great things that he did on the ice.
47:01 So, uh, that's what that millennia, this Centennial stuff is all about.
47:05 It's so cool.
47:06 Like the amount, like you and a lot of the other writers, you know, who covered that
47:09 2011 era team.
47:12 It's so cool.
47:13 The amount of cool personalities, uh, you know, big stories that came out of that Thomas
47:18 Lucic, Ricky Marshand kind of coming into his own.
47:23 Like, it's just, there's so many like stories I hear from you guys and stuff.
47:27 And, and Thomas is always one of the top ones.
47:30 So it's really cool to hear that.
47:31 And that's a cool way to end.
47:33 I like that.
47:34 That's a, that's an awesome story.
47:35 Yes.
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48:44 Uh, Evan Maronovsky, thank you very much for joining me this week, my friend.
48:48 Of course.
48:49 Always a pleasure.
48:50 All right.
48:51 We're going to do this again a couple of times next week.
48:52 We're now up to two pucks, pucks with hags episodes a week on the podcast starting now
48:56 that the season's gotten going.
48:58 So double the pleasure, double the fun, double the pucks with hags.
49:01 Uh, thank you everybody for listening.
49:03 We'll see you at the ring.
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