Durante sua participação no podcast “Fala AE” desta terça-feira (05/09), o professor e comentarista Hugão fez questão de eximir a torcida do Cruzeiro de qualquer culpa pelo momento ruim vivido pela equipe. Hugão exaltou a torcida e disse que mesmo com o péssimo momento, o apoio da torcida tem sido grande e que a torcida só merece elogios.
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00:00 I want to know, you, now less as a commentator and more as a fan, what is the role of the Cruzeiro fans now?
00:07 Why am I asking this?
00:08 In the last game you said, before the start of the match, Gilberto appears on the screen, the crowd goes crazy.
00:13 During the game, yes, support. In the end, it goes crazy, even because of the result.
00:18 Cruzeiro hasn't won yet, playing at home.
00:22 No.
00:22 Playing at Mineirão.
00:24 At Mineirão. The dependence is to win. You mentioned Santos, São Paulo, Grêmio. So, there is a victory in the dependence.
00:30 Just to remind you, against São Paulo it wasn't our merit, it was a goal against Rafinha.
00:34 So, if I'm not mistaken, there are three defeats, three draws at Mineirão.
00:36 But there are three points.
00:37 Exactly.
00:38 And then the impatience of the crowd will appear, as it is already appearing.
00:43 So, Cruzeiro will have a super important game, sometimes, needing to win to move away from the rebound zone.
00:50 What should be the role of the crowd in a game of Cruzeiro, inside Mineirão, where the team hasn't won yet?
00:56 The role that it is playing, man. The crowd of Cruzeiro has to be charged zero.
00:59 It has to be charged zero. Zero. Zero. I don't charge anything to the crowd of Cruzeiro. Nothing.
01:04 When the player says, "We count on the support of the crowd", my friend, Sunday now, it was September 3rd.
01:11 Beginning of the month.
01:12 We call it the end of the month, because we, the proletariat…
01:15 A lot of people didn't receive it, right? Thursday is useful, right?
01:17 People think we're rich for working on television. It's an illusion.
01:20 Today, we've improved a little bit. You can order an Uber Black, right?
01:24 You can, for example, have a better chicken on the weekend.
01:28 Exactly.
01:29 You don't have to eat just that pasta with ground beef, right?
01:32 Anyway, that onion risotto you used to make in college…
01:37 The fish is not just sardines, but…
01:39 Yeah, my father's money hasn't arrived yet, because I'm going to college.
01:41 So, I'm making an onion risotto, which has gratin, wonderful onion.
01:44 Amen, sir. Thank God.
01:45 Today, the plant is doing better, right?
01:47 So, the Brazilian fan, with the prices you can get in Brazilian football,
01:52 Cruzeiro aimed for a lot of profit in Mineirão,
01:55 and even more with Atlético, in the arena itself.
01:57 I'm not saying this to provoke anyone,
01:59 I'm saying that Cruzeiro fought to get this benefit, and it was a very good one.
02:03 But the one who pays for it is the fan.
02:06 It was the 3rd, and no one had received it yet.
02:08 The guy must have burst the credit card.
02:10 You know how it is?
02:11 The guy came up to his father and said, "Dad, pay for my ticket, please."
02:14 And he put 30,000 people in.
02:16 Yeah, and he put 30,000 people in on a Sunday night, bro.
02:19 Sunday night. Sunday night. A bad day.
02:22 A bad day.
02:23 You know, Sunday after 5pm, my friend.
02:26 In the past, when there was Faustão, or when there was the Porta da Esperança,
02:31 in my time, it was Porta da Esperança and then Faustão.
02:34 It was a nice Sunday with Gugu.
02:35 Yeah, because it ended on a nice Sunday, around 5pm,
02:37 because there were all those silly things in the afternoon,
02:39 but it was a nice silly thing.
02:40 It was a nice thing for Faustão.
02:41 Not so much. When you were there, there was President's Week,
02:46 do you remember that?
02:47 No, not that one.
02:48 It was Lombardi saying, "This week, the president..."
02:51 I don't remember that one.
02:52 It was older than me.
02:53 My dad used to say that it gave him depression,
02:55 because the President's Week was over and there was an image of Christ,
02:57 and he said, "One day we'll meet."
03:00 And I'd like to say... SBT, this is SBT.
03:02 It gave him depression, because he said, "Wow, Sunday is over, for God's sake."
03:07 And at Globo, there was Faustão, and I don't think he was Faustão at the time,
03:11 but maybe he was.
03:12 And then there were some silly things, around 7pm,
03:15 and it was a bad time to have a soccer game.
03:18 A soccer game is like this, 4pm, it's over at 6pm,
03:22 you do a 30 minute interview with your friends,
03:24 go home, take a shower, sit down, watch TV, series,
03:28 watch Fantástico, watch Topa Tudo por Dinheiro,
03:31 with Patrícia Bravanel, Silvio Santos was wonderful.
03:34 Silvio... We love you.
03:36 - He was unquestionable. - Yes, he was.
03:38 So, 30,000 people, man.
03:41 You know? 30,000 people in Mineirão.
03:45 Man, I have the right to advise my fans, zero.
03:49 And if Gilberto's image appears in Mineirão,
03:52 and people go, "Oh, there are people who will say, 'You have to support the player.'"
03:55 Man, he should go after his support now.
03:58 He should go after it.
03:59 He should deserve the applause of the fans.
04:02 He should deserve it.
04:04 You know why? Because I learned something from my dad.
04:06 My dad taught me something, and it's already at home.
04:08 People who were following my dad were hospitalized.
04:10 - Thank God. - It's already at home, thank God.
04:12 My dad told me something like this,
04:14 "You are literally responsible for the hole you dig,
04:19 but also for everything you planted and harvested.
04:23 You are responsible for both things.
04:25 They are two poles, it's like relative numbers, right?
04:27 The positive is growing, the negative is decreasing.
04:30 You are as responsible for what is happening in the negative
04:32 as you are responsible for what is happening in the positive.
04:34 You are responsible, you can take yourself from your negative point to the positive point.
04:39 Just like you are in the positive point,
04:41 a shit you do, you go straight to the negative.
04:44 So you are responsible for that.
04:46 Gilberto has to be responsible to improve his situation.
04:48 The Cruzeiro team has to be responsible to bring the fans back,
04:51 to have this symbiosis.
04:53 Because we will love this shirt forever.
04:56 The Cruzeiro shirt, this coat here.
04:58 You know?
04:59 When someone asked me to take this shirt off, I don't take it off at all.
05:02 Cruzeiro, my friend, was re-launched in 2019.
05:05 It was re-launched on the beach.
05:08 I didn't take a vacation, but on the weekend,
05:10 like my family did, I traveled and stayed with them at least on the weekend.
05:13 On Sunday night I was coming back.
05:15 Cruzeiro shirt, brother. Cruzeiro shirt.
05:18 This support has never been lacking, man.
05:20 It has never been lacking and it will never be lacking.
05:22 We love it.
05:23 This is the essence of a fan, right?
05:24 Regardless of titles, wherever they are, they have to love the team.
05:27 Sometimes the team deserves zero.
05:29 It's a toxic relationship.
05:30 I love Cruzeiro a lot.
05:31 He doesn't love me.
05:33 You know that relationship you love a lot, but he doesn't love you.
05:36 The relationship is kind of toxic in the last few years.
05:39 But, man, it's Cruzeiro's shirt and let's go up.
05:41 I'm going to charge my fans zero because the fans don't need to be called.
05:43 He showed it now.
05:45 At the end of the month, 30,000 people in Mineirão.
05:48 Gilberto's photo appeared.
05:49 "Go, brother!"
05:50 The team went on the field, applauded.
05:52 That's it.
05:53 If Gilberto were the "Cup Vaiaço" Gilberto,
05:55 he would just score a goal.
05:57 You know?
05:58 He would have a reasonable performance.
05:59 I guarantee you that things would start to change in the bench.
06:01 Wesley is not the best, no.
06:03 But the fans have already begun to understand that he is performing better.
06:06 He is performing better.
06:08 He is performing.
06:09 So the fans have the right to charge.
06:10 Because the guy has to feel the pressure to wear a shirt like this.
06:13 The fan pays the ticket, the fan loves it.
06:15 The fan supports the club many times.
06:17 It's not just that.
06:18 A shirt like this, which won six Brazilian Cups,
06:20 which won Libertadores, you know?
06:22 When you arrive in Argentina, Boca says, "It's Cruzeiro."
06:25 You know?
06:26 You will arrive in Chile, for example, in Colo-Colo.
06:29 In Paraguay, in Cerro Portenho.
06:32 In Uruguay, in Penharol.
06:34 The guys say, "It's Cruzeiro, man."
06:36 You will play against Flamengo in Maracanã.
06:38 In Palmeiras, in Allianz.
06:40 The guys say, "Yeah, bro, the team is not doing well,
06:43 but look at the shirt they are wearing."
06:45 They have respect.
06:46 So the player has to feel this pressure, you know?
06:48 To know which fan, you know?
06:50 Because the fans are like, "I'm against violence,
06:52 against you attacking, chasing, cursing,
06:55 going on your wife's social media."
06:57 "I'm totally against it."
06:59 But at the stadium, bro, it was on the screen,
07:01 it was a big show.
07:02 Man, I'm from a time when Marcelo Ramos was a big show.
07:06 The guy would go on the field and play.
07:08 My dad once said, it's a wonderful story,
07:10 my dad said that in Mineirão, Cruzeiro was in a bad phase,
07:14 in Mineirão and everything, Dirceu Lopes.
07:16 The prince.
07:18 Dirceu Lopes, Joãozinho Bailarino, Eduardo Rabo de Vaca.
07:22 Cruzeiro was in a bad phase, these three guys.
07:25 Dirceu Lopes, Joãozinho Bailarino da Toca,
07:29 and Eduardo Rabo de Vaca.
07:31 I even have Hugo Eduardo, because of Eduardo Rabo de Vaca.
07:33 I didn't know that.
07:35 My mom liked an actor at the time,
07:37 I don't know, his name was Hugo, I don't know what.
07:39 My dad said he wanted Eduardo.
07:41 So put Hugo Eduardo, because of Eduardo Rabo de Vaca.
07:44 Man, and look at the wave.
07:46 Cruzeiro fans, in the 70s,
07:48 went crazy for Dirceu Lopes.
07:50 The biggest player in Cruzeiro's history.
07:52 You know? The biggest player in Cruzeiro's history.
07:55 It's not a matter of opinion.
07:57 Dirceu Lopes is the biggest player.
07:59 He was crazy, Fábio was crazy.
08:01 I'm not talking about when he played with Fluminense.
08:03 Fábio was crazy, Dida was crazy.
08:06 You know? Look at that. Dida was crazy.
08:08 Look at that.
08:10 Gilberto won't be crazy, my friend, because of this phase.
08:12 He'll be like,
08:14 "Can't the fan go crazy before the game?"
08:16 It's against violence.
08:18 You know? He's on the field, man, it's Cruzeiro's jersey,
08:20 let's always support him. The game is over, it was bad.
08:22 You can go crazy, bro.
08:24 You have to feel the pressure of the Cruzeiro fans.
08:26 This fan is wonderful, wonderful.
08:28 It doesn't need to be called.
08:30 We're together, my nation. I'm going to charge zero from my fan.