Durante sua participação no podcast “Fala AE” desta terça-feira (05/09), o professor e comentarista Hugão falou sobre o critério da SAF do Cruzeiro para a escolha de treinador. Para Hugão o critério adotado parece um pouco confuso e inconsistente de acordo com o que o clube vinha falando nos últimos meses.
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00:00 Gão, before talking about Zé Ricardo, I want to talk about Cruzeiro's staff.
00:04 Recently, you mentioned it on the show, and I wasn't even there,
00:08 it was Vitor, our other reporter, who participated in that meeting
00:12 at Toca da Raposa with Pedro Martins, saying that Cruzeiro had mapped
00:17 some coaches that would fit the football profile that Cruzeiro has thought of in a modern way.
00:25 I want to know, is Zé Ricardo this profile? If so, is it the board's mistake or not?
00:32 From what I see, I don't think they had mapped these five coaches.
00:38 That's my opinion. I don't think they had mapped them.
00:41 Because when you have this kind of planning, and yes, I'm a Cruzeiro fan,
00:46 I believe in what my team's management says.
00:48 I often put up reservations, I see that a lot of things don't fit,
00:52 but having seen the year 2022 being very satisfying for Cruzeiro's fans,
00:59 it was a year when we were able to return to the elite of Brazilian football,
01:03 it was a year when we were able to see some correct decisions being made,
01:08 even when we questioned Rodolfo's arrival, who was from America,
01:12 who had already had a good 2021 season in America,
01:15 we questioned the arrival of Leo Paz, the Uruguayan, if I'm not mistaken.
01:22 We were very worried when Lucas Oliveira arrived,
01:26 because Ramon ended up going to Atlético Goianiense,
01:28 but who is Lucas Oliveira?
01:30 Jajá is painting me here, although he had already said that a B-series would be enough.
01:35 You think, let's trust them because they did a good job.
01:40 One thing is to agree with what the management does in the administrative part,
01:44 another thing is to disagree with what they do in the decision-making of football.
01:48 At that time, they had hit the ball in relation to football.
01:51 Cruzeiro was champion with a sensational campaign in the B-series last year.
01:56 They were able to return to a situation where they were more anxious than distressed.
02:01 They were very anxious to return to the elite of Brazilian football.
02:04 We were distressed because of the trauma we had in 2019, including 2020 and 2021.
02:10 So when all that happens, you trust them.
02:13 Then that situation with Pezzolano happens.
02:16 Pezzolano didn't want to stay, he had come from that proposal from Arabia,
02:21 but we think about the Minas Gerais, the fans are a little bit worried.
02:26 But as in the previous year, Cruzeiro didn't care so much about the Minas Gerais,
02:30 but despite having reached a final, the focus was on access,
02:33 we had at least understood the following, Ronaldo played the clear with the fans.
02:37 He said, "Look, don't expect great titles, we'll have a competitive team in the Brazilian championship."
02:46 I'm saying this to contextualize my decision-making point today,
02:51 of a more severe criticism.
02:53 We started the Brazilian championship with Pepa, it was no longer with Paulo Pezzolano.
02:57 Pepa goes to Amistoso with Bragantino, I looked at it and said,
03:00 "Yeah, okay."
03:02 I could see some game pattern, but it's a friendly game,
03:06 where the player, in a friendly game,
03:08 asks to start a great competition, the guy doesn't put his foot to divide,
03:11 the guy won't show that he's too tough to be chosen by the coach,
03:15 but the player can tell what the coach has in mind.
03:19 We debuted against Corinthians, a defeat,
03:21 but Cruzeiro played in a satisfactory way for the fans.
03:24 We went to the second round, we got some wins,
03:28 then there was a little slip, another one here,
03:31 and then we got a number of games without winning.
03:34 If you turn to me and say, "Do you think Pepa was the main culprit for this?"
03:39 No, he's not the main culprit, but he has his share of blame for the decisions he made,
03:44 insisting on parts that wouldn't work.
03:46 We see Daniel Jr.'s family, it's very clear on social media,
03:50 that they were dissatisfied with the coach,
03:52 that when he leaves, his mother posts,
03:54 "Oh, you see?" Something like that.
03:57 It's not exactly that, but it's something like that.
03:59 You see players that weren't seen being used,
04:03 because of an indiscipline.
04:05 There's Fernando, who came from the guild,
04:07 and he's not used by him.
04:09 Ariel, who was very good in the São Paulo Junior Cup,
04:12 and he's not used at the time when people say,
04:14 "You have to hold on to the kid to understand what's going on."
04:16 A 17-year-old kid,
04:18 he's a sub-20 in the championship,
04:20 and there's no chance in the professional team?
04:23 He has to be in the right environment,
04:25 he has to be in the right mood,
04:27 you don't see Daniel Jr. being used anymore.
04:29 Kaique, in some situations,
04:31 he was being...
04:33 And then you see the decision-making in soccer,
04:36 the arrival of Henrique Dourado,
04:38 you say, "He doesn't make it."
04:40 And then you see the ant that stayed.
04:42 "Calm down, guys, hold on to this point."
04:44 And some players that start to leave,
04:46 Richard, from what happened, we know,
04:48 during the season,
04:50 he had some injuries.
04:52 And then you have Ramiro injured,
04:54 you have Matheus Pereira, who just arrived and got injured,
04:56 but you have Arthur Gomes, who responded,
04:58 and everything.
05:00 And in that meeting, at the "Toca da Raposa",
05:02 I remember it was Vitor who went,
05:04 but I was invited to that too.
05:06 I decided not to go.
05:08 I'm afraid of going to these meetings.
05:10 Because, contrary to what people think,
05:12 and Lauro knows this,
05:14 I live with the board as little as possible,
05:16 I live with the player as little as possible,
05:18 I even relate to some,
05:20 I greet them, I have contact,
05:22 I recorded a content with Edu and Rafael Cabral,
05:24 in São Paulo, through Cruzeiro,
05:26 through Cruzeiro Virtual,
05:28 because we had that virtual plan.
05:30 And, ok, but I avoid this link
05:32 to have as much impartiality as possible
05:34 when commenting.
05:36 And also not to lose my feeling of being a Cruzeiro fan.
05:38 Because I'm a Cruzeiro fan, and that's it.
05:40 When that talk came up,
05:42 of five coaches, I said, "Cool, if Pepa doesn't work out,
05:44 let's see who are those five
05:46 who have the possibility."
05:48 - Just a parenthesis, because Pepa seemed
05:50 a good mapping of Cruzeiro, and right.
05:52 - It seemed, it seemed.
05:54 - Cruzeiro wasn't achieving results,
05:56 but it was showing itself very organized on the field,
05:58 to a certain extent.
06:00 I think there was also a mistake
06:02 of wrong substitutions, but Cruzeiro
06:04 was very organized, with Botafogo,
06:06 very organized against Corinthians.
06:08 - Yeah, but at certain moments
06:10 the game strategy changed, which I didn't understand.
06:12 - That's the problem, I think they made a mistake in substitution.
06:14 - When we played against Palmeiras,
06:16 which Matheus Vital scored at the beginning of the game,
06:18 for example, what was the idea of the game?
06:20 The idea of the game was to have a midfielder
06:22 acting there, infiltrated in the middle of the two
06:24 Palmeiras' goalkeepers, because when you have a midfielder,
06:26 because for me he would go with three goalkeepers,
06:28 he would go with three goalkeepers because he would hold Palmeiras' team.
06:30 And he surprised me, he put a midfielder there,
06:32 which was Matheus Vital, and when he does this,
06:34 when Matheus Vital scores, Machado comes in.
06:36 I said, "Why?" It's ok, Cruzeiro did well in the game.
06:38 He loses at the end of the game, but he did well in the game.
06:40 There's not much, maybe there's not even
06:42 coherence in my questioning.
06:44 But then I realize a little lack of coherence
06:46 at this point, because, man, it's a midfielder
06:48 who's on the field. When you shoot, you put Machado,
06:50 not Algao, but you would put Nikão.
06:52 Man, if that's your game strategy, you have to defend
06:54 your game strategy. We were defeated
06:56 in that game anyway.
06:58 And then, when Pepa falls, I thought,
07:00 "Maybe Cruzeiro won't take long," and I said this on the show,
07:02 "Maybe Cruzeiro won't take long to introduce
07:04 the coach because Cruzeiro posts
07:06 on Twitter and puts it below."
07:08 It wasn't just your thought, it was everyone's, right?
07:10 Of course, especially because of the speech
07:12 that was made at the Raposa's meeting.
07:14 And then Zé Ricardo appears to me,
07:16 and I'll also give you the credits here,
07:18 that Jorge Nicola said that this was Cruzeiro's
07:20 eighth option. What kind of mapping is this?
07:22 What five coaches are these?
07:24 Cruzeiro is thinking about
07:26 five coaches, what five are these?
07:28 So that maybe you have tried these five,
07:30 and after the five,
07:32 the third option is still
07:34 the other guy. Because there were five,
07:36 two more before, and then the third
07:38 is Zé Ricardo.
07:40 And then my question,
07:42 I won't even get into the merits of the question,
07:44 for example, about Japanese football being
07:46 re-subbed, because Mano Menezes was re-subbed in China.
07:48 -Filipe Pão was terrible at work there too. -Filipe Pão too.
07:50 If I'm not mistaken, I think Mano
07:52 had already started a job at Serie B
07:54 with the team he was managing at the time, and he returns
07:56 to Cruzeiro. In a comparative,
07:58 we know that Mano has more know-how,
08:00 he has several reservations about Mano
08:02 about Cruzeiro's re-submission and everything.
08:04 But he has a know-how as a coach, he went through the Brazilian team,
08:06 he had an interesting transfer
08:08 to Corinthians, including at Serie B, saving Corinthians.
08:10 He was the Brazilian Cup champion with Cruzeiro.
08:12 That's his merit,
08:14 his know-how, no one can take that away from him.
08:16 I can criticize him regarding his positioning,
08:18 and today, his decision-making too.
08:20 But he's a coach who is above
08:22 Zé Ricardo, that's a fact.
08:24 He's not Mano Meires, that's not what I'm saying.
08:26 So, man, what's Zé Ricardo's decision-making?
08:28 What decision-making is that?
08:30 I couldn't understand that.
08:32 And then, it opens the margin
08:34 for Uga, a fan,
08:36 who sometimes people ask for a lot of coherence,
08:38 to understand that we are also passionate.
08:40 Me, Fael, Toledo, Nanda,
08:42 Tripa, Betinho, Samuka, Ana Paula,
08:44 we are all very passionate about the show.
08:46 Our team says, "Let's put faith,
08:48 because now things will work."
08:50 Until a situation like this happened.
08:52 (electronic beeping)