At a Senate Committee on Public Order and Dangerous Drugs hearing, Allan Bandiola, the cyclist who was threatened with a gun by dismissed policeman Wilfredo Gonzales in a viral road rage video, finally appears in public and gives his account of the incident.
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00:00 I was on my way home from work.
00:02 While I was waving the welcome rotunda,
00:06 I was inside a bike lane.
00:09 Suddenly, a car entered.
00:12 So what I did, because the line was narrow,
00:15 I went down first.
00:17 You entered the bike lane?
00:18 Yes, it was already there.
00:20 Okay.
00:20 So I went down to the parking side of South Asia College, I was the first one to go.
00:25 Because there was no space left for me to occupy the bike lane.
00:30 Because I was just a bicycle, I was still able to reach the bike.
00:33 So at that time,
00:35 I was stuck on the side,
00:37 inside the bike lane.
00:39 So I had no choice because if I didn't stop the car,
00:43 I would either fall off the bike,
00:45 I would get hit by a car,
00:46 or I would fall down like a pedestrian
00:48 waiting for a car.
00:50 So, when I got there first,
00:53 the driver stopped.
00:56 So, because he was going to Erode, I was going to Quezon Avenue,
01:00 we were facing each other.
01:01 In short, you didn't hit the back of his car?
01:05 I was stuck in the bike lane, Your Honor.
01:08 No, no, my question is,
01:09 No.
01:10 You didn't suddenly brake and hit him?
01:13 No, because if I hit him, I would have hit the
01:15 Okay.
01:16 the side of his car.
01:17 You hit him?
01:18 I hit him because...
01:19 Did you hit him because the car was damaged?
01:23 My hand was small, Your Honor.
01:25 So, maybe I couldn't hit him.
01:28 So, you didn't hit him?
01:29 No, I was inside the bike lane.
01:30 So, when we got out, we faced each other.
01:32 So, I saw that Guinao Gonzalez is a bit old.
01:36 Maybe because of the traffic,
01:40 he's a bit tired, his head is probably spinning.
01:43 So, I didn't notice him because he's like my father.
01:48 I went straight ahead.
01:49 Because in the Welcome Rotonda area,
01:52 there are cars that spin from E. Rodriguez
01:56 and the passengers that ride.
01:58 I went out of the bike lane because I couldn't get in.
02:02 Of course, when I was about to return to the bike lane,
02:05 that's when Guinao Gonzalez entered.
02:07 That's when he hit me.
02:10 And I hit the side of his car.
02:13 Before that, you didn't answer?
02:15 The first one, your first hit?
02:17 I didn't answer.
02:18 I didn't hit Guinao Gonzalez
02:21 because I know his head is spinning.
02:23 How can you say his head is spinning?
02:25 Because his face is different.
02:27 You know, he's really angry.
02:31 Maybe because he's tired, because he's old.
02:33 You weren't angry either?
02:35 I wasn't angry, sir.
02:37 You didn't hit him?
02:38 When I saw him angry,
02:39 nothing would happen if I talked to him.
02:42 Because people are angry.
02:43 If you talk to them,
02:43 you're sure that they won't listen to you.
02:46 Wait, wait, wait, sir Jimmy.
02:47 With your permission,
02:48 I just want to ask how strong was your hit on the car?
02:52 My hit was normal.
02:54 It was a bit strong?
02:55 Yes, to be honest.
02:56 In one of your interviews,
02:58 you admitted that you hit someone.
03:00 How strong was it?
03:01 Because, Mr. Chen,
03:03 when Mr. Gonzalez came out,
03:04 his head was spinning.
03:05 I just want to know.
03:06 I hit him three times on the side.
03:10 So that I can get his attention,
03:12 I was already getting angry.
03:15 So, when we were already in the kitchen,
03:19 that's when it happened.
03:20 I hit the side of his car,
03:22 because he was already getting his attention.
03:26 So what happened was,
03:28 Mr. Gonzalez came out.
03:30 I mean, Mr. Gonzalez.
03:32 Then, he suddenly hit me.
03:34 I was also wearing a helmet.
03:36 It's normal for us,
03:38 that whoever hits us,
03:40 we'll react.
03:42 So that's when it happened.
03:43 He shot me.
03:44 He shot me.
03:46 So after that,
03:48 he pulled my bicycle,
03:52 because he thought I was going to escape.
03:54 A cyclist came to us.
03:56 The cyclist said,
03:58 "Don't do that."
04:00 He said, "We'll call the police."
04:02 That's when Mr. Gonzalez made a second motion.
04:04 "Okay, call the police."
04:06 So while we were bringing my bicycle to the side,
04:08 a guard told me,
04:10 "Don't answer because there's a gun."
04:12 So when the cyclist arrived,
04:14 the police also arrived.
04:16 When the police arrived,
04:18 he calmed the situation.
04:20 When he got there,
04:22 my police asked what happened.
04:24 He told me what happened.
04:26 The police also gave me a message,
04:28 "Don't just hit cars."
04:30 He said,
04:32 "Because we don't know,
04:34 maybe people like that,
04:36 they go through something,
04:38 they're hot-headed.
04:40 Maybe they're just
04:42 tempted by you."
04:44 So I admitted to Mr. Adan,
04:46 I said,
04:48 "I'm just kidding, sir.
04:50 I've been riding my bicycle for a long time,
04:52 more than 10 years.
04:54 I go to Makati, I just ride my bicycle."
04:56 So I said, "It's really my first time
04:58 hitting a car."
05:00 Because even though I'm the one who's driving,
05:02 if I get hit, I'll get angry.
05:04 So Mr. Adan said,
05:06 "We can't arrest
05:08 Ginoong Gonzalez.
05:10 We didn't see any gunshot wounds."
05:12 So he said,
05:14 "We'll call the traffic sector
05:16 to fix this and make it
05:18 an incident."
05:20 You didn't tell them there were gunshots?
05:22 I told him.
05:24 What did the police say?
05:26 They didn't see any gunshot wounds.
05:28 You lied.
05:30 Because there were gunshots, I was angry.
05:32 Yes, but they said they didn't see any gunshot wounds.
05:34 That's why they can't arrest
05:36 Ginoong Gonzalez.
05:38 When Mr. Adan called the traffic sector,
05:40 maybe 30 minutes later,
05:44 Mr. Rasay
05:46 arrived.
05:48 He was one of the responders for the traffic incident.
05:50 So he asked,
05:52 "What happened?"
05:54 I said, "I was hit by Ginoong Gonzalez.
05:56 I hit him. That's it. He has a gun."
05:58 He said, "Why didn't you go to the bike lane?"
06:00 I said, "I went out
06:02 because he hit me."
06:04 I said, "He has a gun."
06:06 But he didn't see it.
06:08 I said, "I have a CCTV
06:10 so you can see the truth."
06:12 That's when we went
06:14 to the barangay.
06:16 That's when I found out that I was speaking
06:18 in the CCTV because he had a gun.
06:20 After that,
06:22 Mr. Rasay and I
06:24 went to the traffic sector
06:26 in Camuning.
06:28 When we arrived in Camuning,
06:30 at that time, there were a lot of traffic incidents
06:32 happening.
06:34 We were in a line.
06:36 We were brought to the head office.
06:38 He was the one who did it.
06:40 He watched the video. He asked, "What's your plan?"
06:42 At that time,
06:44 we were both a bit confused.
06:46 I said, "I'll demand." We were both
06:48 going to demand.
06:50 That's what happened.
06:52 We waited
06:54 to do the report.
06:56 Maybe because we were
06:58 the fourth to arrive,
07:00 we were called to the traffic sector.
07:02 After that,
07:04 they found out
07:06 where the police station was located.
07:08 That's where Galas is.
07:10 They called the Galas station.
07:12 We were followed.
07:14 When our
07:16 police
07:18 arrived
07:20 at the traffic sector,
07:22 they took us by car.
07:24 Actually, when we came
07:26 to the traffic sector,
07:28 there was a barangay
07:30 who was assisting me
07:32 by riding a motorcycle.
07:34 We arrived at the Galas station.
07:36 When we arrived at the Galas station,
07:38 the police
07:40 asked us what happened.
07:42 We had
07:44 a gun pointed at us.
07:46 I told them,
07:48 "Sir, what happened there at the Welcome Rotonda,
07:50 we can check.
07:52 Maybe there's a CCTV."
07:54 The police had no idea.
07:56 They told us to go there
07:58 and see if we can see
08:00 a CCTV to see
08:02 how it started.
08:04 When we went there,
08:06 they checked all the CCTVs
08:08 in the area,
08:10 especially in Southeast Asia College.
08:12 But there was a CCTV.
08:14 The problem was that it was broken.
08:16 There was another one
08:18 in another establishment.
08:20 It didn't work.
08:22 After that,
08:24 we went back to the Galas station.
08:26 Before we went back,
08:28 we went to
08:30 Don Manuel Barangay.
08:32 He gave us
08:34 a paper.
08:36 We went back to the Galas station.
08:38 When we got back,
08:40 while he was doing something
08:42 in his office,
08:44 I thought
08:46 that this is a big problem for me.
08:48 First of all,
08:50 my children are not with me.
08:52 My wife is not with me.
08:54 I thought that no one will believe me
08:56 if I go down.
08:58 But nothing happened to me.
09:00 I talked to the
09:02 investigator.
09:04 "Sir, how much
09:06 will you pay
09:08 for the damages to the car?"
09:10 I said, "I have no idea."
09:12 He said,
09:14 "What kind of damage to the car?"
09:16 "The side damage.
09:18 The hit on the handle."
09:20 "Not on the side?"
09:22 "No, from the tree
09:24 to the driver's side."
09:26 I said,
09:28 "Usually, in Banawe,
09:30 it's around 2,500 pesos."
09:32 He said, "Sir, I'll just pay
09:34 this much. You just talk to
09:36 Guinao Gonzalez. I can pay
09:38 the damages."
09:40 I said, "You can talk to us.
09:42 We'll talk to each other."
09:44 Maybe because
09:46 Guinao Gonzalez got angry,
09:48 I told him,
09:50 "Sir, if you have any damages to your car,
09:52 I'll pay for it.
09:54 But I'm not a cashier. You can pay
09:56 if you want."
09:58 Maybe that's when Guinao Gonzalez
10:00 thought that
10:02 I'm serious about what I'm saying.
10:04 I said, "Sir, I have 800 pesos.
10:06 I'll give this to you in good faith."
10:08 I said, "I'll pay the first payment
10:10 for the damages."
10:12 "If there's a problem,
10:14 I'll leave the number. Call me.
10:16 I'll run my responsibility."
10:18 In that portion,
10:20 Guinao Gonzalez apologized to me.
10:22 He said, "I'm sorry
10:24 because during rush hour,
10:26 we can't avoid getting
10:28 into a bike lane. I'm sorry for what I did."
10:30 What happened was,
10:32 we shook hands.
10:34 I didn't get angry
10:36 at him anymore. I forgave him.
10:38 We shook hands and hugged.
10:40 Then I told the police,
10:42 "Sir, I have one
10:44 concern.
10:46 I'm going to be kicked out of
10:48 Welcome Rotunda to Caloocan."
10:50 I asked him about
10:52 my safety.
10:54 He said,
10:56 "Don't worry."
10:58 I thought you were
11:00 getting back together.
11:02 Did you shake hands?
11:04 Before we met,
11:06 I checked my safety first.
11:08 Before you
11:10 shook hands,
11:12 you shook hands.
11:14 I thought you were already a couple.
11:16 I asked him about my safety.
11:18 He said,
11:20 "Nothing will happen to you.
11:22 If someone moves,
11:24 we'll arrest them first.
11:26 He's a person of interest."
11:28 I answered him.
11:30 Did you pay?
11:32 That's the good fee
11:34 I gave him,
11:36 500 pesos.
11:38 At first, he didn't want to accept it.
11:40 I asked him why he didn't pay.
11:42 I said, "Sir, I'll eat the 300 pesos
11:44 because I'm hungry.
11:46 I'm getting hungry."
11:48 Are you sure?
11:50 Yes, I gave him the money.
11:52 He didn't want to accept it?
11:54 At first, but at the end,
11:56 I convinced him.
11:58 I said, "I won't run away from my responsibility
12:00 after I damaged your car.
12:02 I'll pay for it."
12:04 That's why I left my cell phone number.
12:06 When Gonzalez
12:08 told me that nothing will happen to me,
12:10 that's when
12:12 we shook hands.
12:14 I hugged him
12:16 because it was okay with me.
12:18 I let him get out of the car.
12:20 In that portion,
12:22 I shook his son's hand because
12:24 I said, "There's nothing wrong with the inside.
12:26 I don't want to plant anything bad inside because we're already getting along."
12:28 After that,
12:30 they left. I took the bike.
12:32 When I left,
12:34 a police investigator called me.
12:36 He said,
12:38 "Sir, let's eat first
12:40 or have coffee because you're going to be far away.
12:42 It's getting late."
12:44 I was thinking about my son because he's with his grandmother.
12:46 I couldn't give him
12:48 his invitation.
12:50 I went home that time.
12:52 That's when it all ended.
12:54 Mr. Chair, can I clarify
12:56 what you said to
12:58 Sir?
13:00 I'll clarify what you said
13:02 to the police officer,
13:04 right?
13:06 When he said there were no guns,
13:08 did he ask
13:10 if you have a gun?
13:12 He asked.
13:14 I don't know what it was because
13:16 we're far away because we're both hot.
13:18 He didn't ask you
13:20 if you have a witness or not.
13:22 The witness in the gun?
13:24 Actually, there were many witnesses.
13:26 Did the police ask?
13:28 The police asked me. There were many people there.
13:30 I have a CCTV.
13:32 How did the witnesses react?
13:34 At that time,
13:36 the motorists
13:38 and the people who were
13:40 in the car left.
13:42 Can you describe?
13:44 I'm the police officer and I asked
13:46 how it happened.
13:48 I didn't see the gun.
13:50 What did you say?
13:52 Did you have witnesses or CCTV?
13:54 He said
13:56 they didn't see the gun
13:58 of Ginoong Gonzalez.
14:00 They can't be arrested
14:02 because they don't have a gun.
14:04 Did you pre-nest the issue?
14:06 No, sir. There were witnesses.
14:08 I told them.
14:10 But they really
14:12 didn't see anything at that time.
14:14 After it came out,
14:16 how many weeks before it came out?
14:18 About 3 weeks.
14:20 After 3 weeks,
14:22 it became a mess.
14:24 They saw that there were guns.
14:26 Then,
14:28 did the police ask you
14:30 to file a case?
14:32 Because there was a public
14:34 uproar because of the
14:36 gun.
14:38 You said you're not
14:40 interested anymore. Is that correct?
14:42 I received calls.
14:44 Actually, one of the calls
14:46 was from General Torrey.
14:48 But at that time,
14:50 my son and I were playing at the mall.
14:52 I didn't answer his call.
14:54 What about texts?
14:56 You went to the police.
14:58 You filed a case.
15:00 General Torrey texted me.
15:02 He wanted to talk to me
15:04 about the video of Ginoong
15:06 Willie Gonzalez. But
15:08 at that time, I was still confused
15:10 because there were many people calling me
15:12 that I didn't know.
15:14 I answered the text of
15:16 General Torrey.
15:18 It was 8 o'clock at night.
15:20 I told him that I didn't want to comment on that issue
15:22 because I was thinking about the safety of my family.
15:24 We were already done there.
15:26 That was my answer
15:28 to General Torrey.
15:30 I answered his text.
15:32 Thank you for coming here
15:36 because I know that you don't want to come here.
15:38 No.
15:40 He's one of the people who was invited
15:44 to my side.
15:46 Thank you.
15:48 Sir, just a follow-up to what he said.
15:50 Sir, the safety of your family
15:52 is not just because
15:54 of the trauma when you were
15:56 shot and killed.
15:58 Or is there an incident
16:00 after that there was a threat to your family?
16:02 Just for the committee to get the perspective.
16:04 No, there wasn't, Your Honor.
16:06 So more of the trauma when it happened.
16:08 Actually, Your Honor,
16:10 Actually, Your Honor,
16:12 when it happened,
16:14 I was silent.
16:16 I didn't answer anything.
16:18 Even though Jeff Caparra is on this channel,
16:20 I said that we're done with that issue.
16:22 So what I did was
16:24 when I talked to Katunying,
16:26 I said that I want to face
16:28 Gen. Willie Gonzalez
16:30 because I will see if
16:32 I still feel trauma, fear, or anger
16:34 towards him. But when we faced each other,
16:36 there was nothing.
16:38 I really forgive him for what he did to me.
16:40 Thank you, Your Honor.
16:42 Thank you, sir.
16:44 At the police station,
16:46 were you treated properly
16:48 by the police?
16:50 I didn't see anything wrong.
16:52 They did their job.
16:54 They didn't threaten me.
16:56 They treated me well.
16:58 Actually,
17:00 they were talking to me.
17:02 They were making fun of me
17:04 so that I would feel better.
17:06 But what time did it happen?
17:08 At 6?
17:10 Actually, Your Honor,
17:12 we were in the traffic sector for a long time
17:14 because the investigators were
17:16 there.
17:18 So at 6, you got there at 2
17:20 in the early morning.
17:22 Was it okay for you?
17:24 Did you have any complaints?
17:26 I didn't have any complaints, Your Honor.
17:28 Did you think that the police would...
17:30 No, they did their job.
17:32 I can't do anything.
17:34 It's their job.
17:36 I just followed their orders.
17:38 So you didn't feel threatened
17:40 at the police station?
17:42 No, I didn't see anything wrong
17:44 with the police.
17:46 Actually, if the police were angry with me,
17:48 why did they let me eat?
17:50 Because they said, "You're going to be far."
17:52 "Let's eat first or let's have coffee first."
17:54 That's what they told me.
17:56 So I was still weak
17:58 because of what they did.
18:00 Actually, I was overwhelmed
18:02 by what they did to me.
18:04 They were afraid of an ordinary person
18:06 like me.
18:08 Okay. When it comes to arreglos,
18:10 did anyone pressure you
18:12 to do an arreglo?
18:14 No. Actually, if
18:16 Willie Gonzalez really
18:18 asked me to do an arreglo,
18:20 he can text me
18:22 every other day
18:24 and tell me what to do.
18:26 So did you do an arreglo?
18:28 Yes, Your Honor.
18:30 Because I thought that no one
18:32 would be able to take my life
18:34 if I would apologize to the person who did it to me.
18:36 No body influence?
18:38 No, Your Honor.
18:40 No one really
18:42 pressured you to do an arreglo?
18:44 No, Your Honor. No one forced me.
18:46 If you want to do an arreglo,
18:48 how do you feel?
18:50 Do you feel guilty?
18:52 I did an arreglo
18:54 to him, Your Honor.
18:56 Because I don't want to cause trouble.
18:58 It's hard to...
19:00 Aside from that, you don't want to cause trouble?
19:02 Let's play.
19:04 There's no problem
19:06 if you don't want to cause trouble.
19:08 Deep inside your heart,
19:10 do you know that you are guilty
19:12 in that incident that you were shot?
19:14 Maybe, the mistake...
19:16 You were shot in the head.
19:18 I wasn't hurt.
19:20 That's all.
19:22 Do you honestly feel
19:24 that you are not guilty in that incident?
19:26 Maybe, the only mistake
19:28 I made there, Your Honor,
19:30 was the hit on his car.
19:32 That's where it all started.
19:34 So you have a guilt feeling
19:36 in that incident, in the hit on his car?
19:38 Yes, because if I didn't do that,
19:40 I don't think we would have gotten into that scenario.
19:42 Okay.
19:44 I saw in an interview
19:46 of Mr. Willie Gonzalez
19:48 that
19:50 you were trying to hit him.
19:52 That's why his head was burning.
19:54 Did you hit him?
19:56 I swear to God, Your Honor,
19:58 I didn't hit him.
20:00 And then, you even hit him.
20:02 I didn't do that, Your Honor.
20:04 I didn't hit him because
20:06 I saw him. He's old.
20:08 And then, you even threatened him
20:10 to chase you
20:12 if you want.
20:14 You were chasing him.
20:16 If I want to...
20:18 If I did something wrong to him, Your Honor,
20:20 and I will escape him,
20:22 I can leave him in the Welcome Rotunda.
20:24 I will just go around there.
20:26 There's a barrier. If I cross it,
20:28 he can't catch me.
20:30 That's all, Your Honor.
20:32 That's all I can see.
20:34 The barrier. That's why he chased you.
20:36 Other than that,
20:38 he won't force you. Are you sure?
20:40 That's all I can see, Your Honor.
20:42 And you think
20:44 it's your fault, the barrier of his car?
20:46 Maybe.
20:48 No, no, maybe.
20:50 From your perspective as a biker,
20:52 you're there in the bike lane
20:54 and you want to survive
20:56 so you won't get hit,
20:58 you won't get caught.
21:00 But if he sees you here,
21:02 he sees you in the bike lane,
21:04 is that your fault?
21:06 It's his fault.
21:08 It's his fault.
21:10 Because he entered the bike lane.
21:12 So that's it?
21:14 So you think
21:16 it's his fault
21:18 that he blocked his car?
21:20 Yes.
21:22 There are many bikers on the streets.
21:24 Not only that,
21:26 but there are also cyclists
21:28 who are also cyclists.
21:30 But sometimes,
21:32 like jeeps and buses,
21:34 they enter the bike lane.
21:36 And they're chasing you.
21:38 Yes. I've been caught by a jeep in Comanol.
21:40 But
21:42 before,
21:44 they didn't let you pass.
21:46 That happens every day.
21:48 It's part of the everyday life of a cyclist.
21:50 Especially in urban areas.
21:52 It's not like that.
21:54 Maybe it's just now.
21:56 Maybe it's because
21:58 I was with Gonzalez on the street.
22:00 Was this on a Sunday?
22:02 Or was it a weekday?
22:04 It was a weekday.
22:06 Sunday,
22:08 there wasn't much traffic.
22:10 I just want to ask,
22:12 in your two police stations,
22:14 first in Galas,
22:16 then you were transferred
22:18 to Kamuning in traffic,
22:20 then you went back to Galas, is that right?
22:22 No. First in Welcome,
22:24 then in the traffic sector,
22:26 then in Galas Station.
22:28 From 6pm,
22:30 you went home at 2pm,
22:32 is that right?
22:34 That was past 1pm, Your Honor.
22:36 I was still on my way home.
22:38 Why was it so long?
22:40 Actually, we were there for a long time.
22:42 The case was very simple.
22:44 I think I've responded to a lot of cases.
22:46 Maybe it was Rasay
22:48 who did the traffic incidents.
22:50 That's why it took a long time
22:52 to get to the location.
22:54 Then when it came to the traffic sector,
22:56 there were a lot of
22:58 incidents of robberies.
23:00 So we were able to get our role
23:02 in the investigator.
23:04 Traffic investigator.
23:06 I'll go back to the question
23:08 of Senator Cayetano
23:10 and Chairman De La Rosa.
23:12 You didn't feel that
23:14 you were being judged
23:16 by the police?
23:18 I didn't feel that
23:20 they were doing the right thing.
23:22 They did the right thing.
23:24 I don't see anything.
23:26 But you're sure that's what's coming out.
23:28 It's like a conspiracy.
23:30 No one forced me to do it.
23:32 I'll make it clear.
23:34 No one forced me to do it in Galas Station.
23:36 I did it from the bottom of my heart.
23:38 The payment of damages?
23:40 Yes. I said it's my responsibility
23:42 if that's what Guillenon Gonzalez is asking for.
23:44 Did he ask for it or you did it?
23:46 I did it.
23:48 I didn't want to lose my job.
23:50 I'm just a human being.
23:52 I said I'll do my best to fix it.
23:54 Why did General Torrey
23:56 call you
23:58 and why did he know
24:00 your number?
24:02 I left my number
24:04 at the police station.
24:06 Maybe General Torrey called me
24:08 to ask about the video.
24:10 I didn't answer him
24:12 at that time.
24:14 Did you talk to General Torrey?
24:16 No.
24:18 We just texted him.
24:20 About the incident?