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00:06 Thank you all for tuning into the A-List Podcast, already starting off on a goofy note.
00:12 First off, the preseason schedule is out.
00:15 The Celtics are, I mean, you can probably find this online, but quickly I'll go through
00:19 it.
00:20 Philadelphia, New York, Philly, New York, at Charlotte.
00:24 That's the Celtics preseason in a nutshell.
00:26 A-Shaw, Blakely, Gary Washburn, we're here to talk about the Celtics, as we usually do.
00:32 Are you guys going to say anything?
00:34 I've just been rambling for like 30 seconds at this point.
00:37 You're right, Quanie, you have been rambling.
00:38 You're right, we're here to talk about the Celtics.
00:42 Breaking news here, this podcast is very Celtics-oriented.
00:45 What was I supposed to say?
00:48 Is Quanie still on vacay, Gary?
00:53 He's like mentally at the Cape or-
00:56 In Birmingham?
00:57 That's how big they are.
00:58 Martha's Vineyard or Fancy's Mansion, where Gary and I can't get into spots like that.
01:05 No, we can't.
01:06 Don't do that, but I'll take it.
01:09 All right, let's talk about, actually, quickly, I am special.
01:12 Oh, yeah, you guys aren't.
01:14 One day, though, one day.
01:16 Hall of Fame weekend, though, that's what we're focused on.
01:20 It's Celtics list, though.
01:21 That's the one thing we did want to highlight, considering this franchise, the history behind
01:26 the Celtics.
01:27 Who stands out to you?
01:29 Let's start with that, the class that is getting inducted this weekend.
01:33 Who do you think just stands out overall the most?
01:36 You probably, actually, this was a setup for someone we know, too, I guess.
01:42 I mean, you look at the class, I think you got to look at Greg Popovich as the one guy
01:48 who, you know, you look at the impact that he's made on just his particular role as an
01:55 NBA head coach.
01:56 It's just phenomenal.
01:57 You look at the way they were able to transition from one great once-in-a-lifetime type of
02:03 player with David Robinson to another one with Tim Duncan, and to still be relevant
02:07 for a number of years afterwards.
02:08 Obviously, they've hit a bit of a low the last four or five years, but Greg Popovich
02:13 is one of the all-time great coaches, and it's good to see him finally getting his flowers
02:18 and be among the all-time great coaches.
02:20 Because when you look at the, if you were to put together like a Mount Rushmore of NBA
02:25 head coaches, I think it's hard not to think about Greg Popovich as being one of those
02:29 on that course.
02:31 Wow.
02:32 I mean, it's a loaded class with Paul Gasol and Dwayne Wade and Tony Parker, Dirk Nowitzki,
02:43 Greg Popovich, Gene Katie, the Perttu coach.
02:50 So it's a loaded class.
02:54 I guess Dirk probably stands out because of just the international, like he set the tone
03:00 for the international kind of revival in the late '90s coming over.
03:07 And now, and then if you look at the drafts after Dirk in '98, there was just littered
03:13 with international players, and there was kind of like an invasion in a sense, like
03:18 the Beatles invasion, where, and then if you look at the Beatles in the mid '60s, there
03:22 was 20 new groups from England that were hitting, there was all these knockoffs.
03:27 And the same thing with Dirk, there were all these Dirk knockoffs, Nikolai Chvitsky, and
03:33 there were all these Euro guys who never really quite made it.
03:38 But Dirk was the first.
03:39 He was the one that kind of started the international explosion of players.
03:43 And to see him 20 years with the Mavericks winning the championship, just obviously revolutionizing
03:50 the game for the four man, kind of the, one of the first of the generation of finesse
03:55 fours.
03:56 You know, you want to include like Garnett in there, you can, but I think Garnett was
04:01 a little bit more physical, a little bit more of a, you know, force in the paint.
04:08 But Dirk was the guy who was going to take you outside, hit that one footed step back
04:13 jumper, hit the three, you know, attack the rim.
04:17 Like he was all around, and it kind of revolutionized the game, you know, for power forwards now,
04:22 power forwards now play like Dirk Chvitsky, as opposed to playing like Rick Mahorn or
04:29 some of these guys of the older generation who were just big behemoths and rebounders
04:35 and guys clearing out space.
04:37 So I think of Dirk Chvitsky, obviously we can talk about, you know, it's going to be
04:41 a Miami Heat love fest with Dwayne Wade there.
04:45 And I'm sure LeBron was going to, is going to be there.
04:48 I mean, it's going to be a star studded hall of fame with all the guys that are going to
04:53 be in there.
04:54 You're going to check out all the Spurs folks that are going to be seeing, you know, Tony
04:59 Parker get in in addition to Pop.
05:03 You know, all the Lakers, you know, and still kind of the ghost of Kobe with Gasol getting
05:08 in, one of his closest friends and team.
05:11 It's going to be an emotional weekend, but this is always fun.
05:14 And I'm glad that the hall where it was not like the opening of the NFL season, it was
05:21 like no overshadow, no nothing where I think last year and the year before it was like,
05:27 you know, the opening of the NFL season, it kind of overtook it a little bit this time
05:34 all on its own.
05:37 That was your hood history lesson with Gary Washburn.
05:40 But what we were highlighting earlier and the tying back the point is the fact that
05:45 this is a hall of fame class with no former C's that are getting inducted.
05:50 So from your two perspectives, you think it's a fluke or a beginning of the Boston representation.
05:56 You think about hall of fame contenders.
06:01 This is the beginning of the drought.
06:04 This is the beginning of the drought for South because when you think about all the famous
06:08 at this point in time, you got to think about players from the 90s to 2000 to 2010.
06:13 And you go back to the 90s.
06:14 And this is courtesy of Gary Washburn, but stats a seven of the 10 years in the 90s,
06:22 the Celtics didn't even make the playoffs.
06:24 So you know, no one, very few players are coming from that era.
06:27 JR River is not going to be a hall of famer.
06:31 It's not going to be a hall of famer.
06:34 So you can just pretty much forget about the 90s and the 2000s were better, but not that
06:39 much better.
06:40 They got the championship in 08, but that decade, I think is going to be remembered
06:45 more, not so much for what they accomplished, but what they could have accomplished.
06:48 When you think about Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce and Ray Allen coming away with one
06:52 chip when that group really should have probably had at least one or two others.
06:57 So that group, again, you're not those guys that I just mentioned, they're already in
07:01 the hall of fame.
07:02 So that that decade is pretty much already accounted for.
07:05 And if you look at the 2010s, some good players, but again, it's still relatively young and
07:12 that group still hasn't won a championship.
07:14 And as we all know, the fastest way to being a hall of famer is to win a championship.
07:20 I don't think Tony Parker would be a hall of famer.
07:23 Well, I don't think, you know, Andrew Ginobili would necessarily be a champion in that same
07:29 regard and Dirk for that man.
07:32 I take that back.
07:33 Dirk would probably be in regardless.
07:34 But the point is, you have to have team success in order, I think, to have that individual
07:40 glory that comes with being a hall of famer.
07:43 And beyond that, it's just not enough time.
07:45 There hasn't been enough time for Jason Tatum, Jaylen Brown, etc.
07:50 But there are some other possible, couple of possible, and we may get into that a little
07:54 bit today, that might get in.
07:57 But for the most part, you're not going to see those years where eight, nine people get
08:02 in and three or four of them just help you.
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08:42 Gary, what do you think?
08:45 Yeah, it's going to be a drought.
08:51 I mean, the fact is that what you had was you had the Celtics rely on veterans for a
08:59 long time in the big three in terms of Garnett, Pierce, and Allen.
09:04 And then in '12, '13, so 10, 11 years ago, those guys all left, were traded.
09:12 Allen signed with Miami.
09:15 And so all those guys ended up retiring and getting into the Hall of Fame eventually with
09:24 Pierce and with all those guys.
09:27 So now you have this gap, right?
09:31 And they went completely young.
09:35 So to me, it's just not going to be...
09:41 It's going to be a while because you don't have any real veterans.
09:45 Marcus Smart was kind of the first of the new generation.
09:48 Marcus is now gone.
09:49 In no shape, but he's not going to be in the Hall of Fame.
09:54 No, no.
09:55 All due respect, sir, Barney.
09:56 All due respect.
09:57 You got Jason and Jalen.
09:58 I'll be in what, 10, 15 years, 20 years?
09:59 Jason is 25 and Jalen is 26.
10:00 So that's going to be a while.
10:01 You don't have any like 34, 30, you don't have any cusp Hall of Famers.
10:18 You don't have any guys.
10:19 It's just going to be a while before you have...
10:22 You might have a player who might've had a cup of coffee with the Celtics or something
10:26 like that.
10:27 Yeah.
10:28 And was not what you would say a true original Celtic.
10:35 I don't think that's going to happen for a while.
10:38 But when you kind of go young and you go old for a long time, remember like they signed
10:45 the big three in 2007.
10:47 It was supposed to be a three year plan, ended up going pretty much six.
10:51 And then they did a complete rebuild where Doc left and Ray ended up leaving and Paul
11:01 and Kevin went to Brooklyn, got traded to Brooklyn for all those draft picks.
11:06 The Celtics just started over.
11:07 So who are we talking about here?
11:09 There was no heir apparent to Kevin, Paul and Ray.
11:14 So it's just going to be a long gap before you see one of your favorite Celtics in the
11:19 Hall of Fame.
11:20 I'm talking about like 10, 12 years, because unless you're talking about somebody who might've
11:26 I said had a cup of coffee with the Celtics, spent a year with them.
11:29 And I really can't think of anybody right now, top of my head, but like a true Celtic,
11:34 a draft, a drafted or someone who played seven, eight years in Boston.
11:40 That ain't happening for a while.
11:43 Let's play a game then of who's got next.
11:46 I'll say a Celtics player, former player or executive's name.
11:50 And you tell me whether or not that person is definitely in, definitely out or try again
11:56 later.
11:57 We'll circle back with them.
11:58 So first one is Reggie Lewis.
12:01 Don't go silent on me now.
12:06 I thought Gary was going to go first.
12:07 That's because Gary's done a lot of...
12:08 You know Reggie a little bit better than I do.
12:09 Plus you're older and closer to him in age.
12:10 Not older, goodness gracious.
12:17 Yeah, I don't think so.
12:23 I think it's a tough situation.
12:29 It's still a kind of a controversial situation of whose fault was it.
12:35 And there was a lot that went on there.
12:43 And obviously he perished in the middle of his career.
12:49 So I don't think there would be a long time happening just considering the fact, although
12:55 a great college player, Northeastern, but still the controversy that surrounds his passing,
13:05 you know, passing in the middle of his career.
13:07 You know, and the Celtics unfortunately went to the dumps as a team and as a franchise
13:15 for about almost a decade after his tragic passing.
13:23 But no, I just don't see that for Reggie Lewis as much as I think it would be amazing.
13:28 And remember, the thing that we don't recall, because I remember having this discussion
13:38 with Cedric Mashwell about Dino Raja, and he was just like, "Holy hell, Dino Raja made
13:44 the Hall of Fame.
13:45 What the hell is going on here?"
13:46 This is not the NBA Hall of Fame.
13:48 This is the Naismith Hall of Fame.
13:50 So college is taken into account.
13:53 You know, high school is taken into account.
13:55 International competition.
13:56 So you see great international players that didn't have great NBA careers like Dino Raja,
14:02 but the guys were one of them.
14:04 Dino was part of the Yugoslavia, that great resurgence of the Yugoslavia team.
14:13 Or you look at like Manu Ginobili, people were like, "Whoa, he wasn't a real Hall of
14:18 Famer.
14:19 He was a good player for the Spurs."
14:21 But remember, he was on that team that beat the US in '04 and was a great international
14:28 player.
14:29 So international is taken into account.
14:32 High school and college is taken into account.
14:35 So you look at some of the people that have gotten in, and you take all encompassing.
14:40 So a guy like Dino Raja, and Max looking at me like, "Well, shoot, why am I getting a
14:45 call?
14:46 Where's my Hall of Fame check?
14:47 Where am I getting that call?
14:51 When I'm heading Springfield, when I'm getting my limo?"
14:55 It was like, they take it into account.
14:57 You know Max, you know he sure as hell said that.
14:59 - Oh, I know him, yep.
15:00 I heard him say it as you were speaking it too.
15:03 - But they take it into account.
15:04 I think people have to understand it's a Naismith Hall of Fame.
15:09 So it's all encompassing basketball.
15:11 High school, if you had a great high school career, that might help your resume.
15:14 I remember Mitch Richmond, people were like, "Well, he's a borderline," but Mitch Richmond
15:19 led Kansas State to the Elite Eight, and they hadn't been there in decades.
15:25 That's another chip on your resume is what you did in college.
15:30 So if you want to, someone like a Reggie Lewis, that might help him.
15:38 Or being on a great high school team at DeMatha, if you look at that, there's been books written
15:42 about the team with Muggsy, Bowe, and Reggie Williams, the great Reggie Williams, who was
15:48 just a beast at Georgetown.
15:50 I'm sure I sure as hell remembers him busting up on his Syracuse team over the years.
15:56 He remembers that.
15:58 Reggie was real.
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17:45 You know, it's just the Hall of Fame is difficult.
17:48 Like it's a, you know, it's it encompasses everything.
17:52 So people can't just say, oh, he was wasn't great in the NBA, but you look at the Internet,
17:58 how many gold medals that he win, that he lead his team or something like that.
18:03 You know, like this, I say like my new Ginobili, who's going to be there honoring Tony, bringing
18:10 in Tony Parker, people will, Ginobili was good, but remember, you know, Argentina won
18:15 that gold in 2004.
18:17 That was historic.
18:19 If you guys remember, I know it's 19 years ago now, but the US, that team, that US team
18:25 in '04 was a mess and, you know, they end up slipping and losing in the quarters, sorry,
18:32 in the semifinals and winning a bronze.
18:35 And we can't imagine that now because with Kobe and all those guys, the Redeem team and
18:39 LeBron, all these guys, they haven't lost since.
18:42 But in those days, that was a shocker.
18:45 Yeah.
18:46 All right.
18:47 So no to that one.
18:48 Sherrod, did you want to?
18:50 No, I would just be reiterating a lot of the stuff that Gary said.
18:55 Bottom line is, you know, that made a lot of sense.
18:59 You know, good player, but there's a body of work that goes beyond just what you did
19:03 in the NBA.
19:05 I think Reggie, highly unlikely, but if they start factoring in what he meant to Northeastern
19:11 and college basketball, all-time leading scorer in school history.
19:14 And I think also what happened when he was not a South, as Gary pointed out, they sucked
19:20 for a long time after he left, which I think that says as much about his impact as what
19:26 he did as a player.
19:27 So I think he has a very, very slim shot, but I agree with Gary.
19:31 It's highly unlikely that we'll see him at all.
19:34 Next on the list, Danny Ainge.
19:36 I'm saying yes.
19:37 I'm all for it.
19:38 I'm all for it.
19:39 Danny, I mean, look, as a player, no, because his body work is good.
19:44 But as an executive, I think he has a shot.
19:46 Damn, tell us how you feel, Sherrod.
19:49 I'm, look.
19:50 Hell no!
19:51 At least I'm not coming at you crazy!
19:54 Oh my gosh.
19:55 Sherrod, like.
19:56 He said no.
19:57 Cut that out.
19:58 No, as a player, I have.
19:59 As an executive, I think he's got a shot.
20:00 I mean, he's won a championship, he built the South Eastern to be a perennial contender
20:12 for decades, where they were at, they'd have moments here and there, but he did it, he
20:17 laid the foundation for what this team is today, and that is a team that year in, year
20:20 out is in the hunt to win a championship.
20:21 And you're not going to win a championship if you're not a contender for one, at least.
20:26 And Danny's had a lot to do with that.
20:28 So yeah.
20:29 And if he can do some things in Utah, get them, you know, in the next year or two, to
20:32 where they're maybe top three, top four in the West, that only strengthens the case for
20:37 him as being a potential All-American to get in as an executive.
20:41 Agree.
20:42 Yeah, I think he can get in as an executive or a contributor.
20:45 You know, remember our own, our friend, Seth Sanders was inducted as a contributor, right?
20:52 So that's a category that, you know, will be interesting.
20:58 And remember too, the 24 class is real thin, I'll say.
21:05 Okay.
21:06 Vince Carter and Jamal Crawford, I mean, is about the two that probably-
21:12 That's the system.
21:13 - are the first ballot Hall of Famers.
21:16 Other than that, you're probably going to get a lot of guys, like guys overdue.
21:23 To me, it's Chauncey Billups.
21:25 He could be up for it.
21:26 Shiraz's buddy, Shiraz's boy from the D. Let's hope a friend, someone I have met and talked
21:36 to and gotten to know over the years is Marcus Johnson.
21:39 Yeah.
21:40 He's a wooden player of the year at UCLA, Crenshaw High School.
21:46 So right, I mean, that's LA to me.
21:49 My uncle, who died two weeks before I was born, was the first student body president
21:54 at Crenshaw High School.
21:56 And Marcus helped turn that school into a complete basketball power for 30 years.
22:02 I mean, Crenshaw, LA, about Crenshaw, I mean, they used to play my high school and we would
22:12 all go to the other side of the court to watch Crenshaw warm up, because that's when you
22:19 couldn't dunk in warmups.
22:21 So it was like the Harlem Globetrotters came to town.
22:24 They might as well have played Sweet Georgia Brown when Crenshaw came to your school.
22:29 Because it was dudes that were like 12 dudes, 15 players, 12, 13 were Division One guys.
22:37 And they should have came out to Sweet Georgia Brown in those days.
22:41 And they would just do, "Woo!"
22:42 And then they would just drop the ball in the basket like they couldn't dunk.
22:45 But they would get like high, like the rim would be right here.
22:50 So everybody like this, and it's the warmups, right?
22:54 So Marcus Johnson started that.
22:57 So I'm rooting for Marcus Johnson.
23:00 Hopefully it's his time next year.
23:02 He's fallen short a little bit.
23:03 So next year's class will be interesting.
23:07 It could include maybe a guy, a former Celtic or two, we'll see.
23:13 But next year's class is kind of thin.
23:15 This year's class is loaded.
23:16 I mean, it's just-
23:17 It's superstars.
23:18 Yeah, D-Wade, Vitsky, Paul Gasol, Tony Parker, then Pop decides.
23:26 If you guys don't know, Pop could have gotten people like, "Whoa, why is Pop in?"
23:29 So like, Pop didn't want to get in.
23:32 He told the Hall of Fame, "Do not vote for me.
23:34 Do not put me on the ballot until all of my guys are in."
23:39 So he waited for Duncan to get in, Ginobili, Parker, now, and then I think Jerry Colangelo,
23:46 kind of the Hall of Fame president, was like, "Pop, you've just-
23:50 It doesn't make sense.
23:51 This is ridiculous now.
23:52 Yeah.
23:53 You're tripping.
23:54 You know, you're tripping.
23:55 Like you gotta-"
23:56 So he finally decided when his last guy, Parker, is up that he's getting inducted.
24:03 So it'll be interesting.
24:06 You know, it was a special night for the Spurs, obviously, with Parker and Coach Pop getting
24:10 inducted.
24:12 But hopefully some guys who have been like Chauncey Billups, I think, who have been overlooked
24:21 will get in.
24:22 Because this is just one of those current classes that is not all that strong in 24.
24:29 Yeah.
24:30 All right, final person, Doc Rivers.
24:33 Count it.
24:34 This could be spicy.
24:35 Count it.
24:36 Count it.
24:37 Lock it in, really.
24:38 Get in.
24:39 Confidently.
24:40 Wow.
24:41 He's not going to be the baby.
24:42 He's one of the top 10 winningest coaches all time.
24:47 That's going to get him in.
24:48 He's got a championship.
24:50 Check that box.
24:51 When he has three or two serious leagues, things don't really go on like they're supposed
24:57 to.
24:58 Yeah.
24:59 But at the end of the day, you look at his total wins, you look at the fact he's got
25:03 a championship, that's going to get him in.
25:06 Doc is a no-brainer.
25:07 It's not a question of if or when.
25:09 Is he going to be a first ballot?
25:11 Is he going to get on the first ballot?
25:13 I don't think he will, but Doc will eventually be in the Hall of Fame.
25:16 I have absolutely zero doubts about that.
25:18 Book it.
25:19 Carry.
25:20 Book it.
25:21 It's booked.
25:22 Yeah.
25:23 Just his overall impact on the game.
25:26 That's a good point.
25:28 Yeah.
25:29 And the fact that, you know, been in several championships.
25:33 And as I said, I think that the biggest regret, and I'll just say this for Celtic fans, like
25:40 in 2010, I mean, that was Kobe's greatness in Game 7 when he was 6-for-24 from the field.
25:50 But he ended up getting to the free throw line, and then the Celtics got kind of tired.
25:57 If they win that series, and they get two chips in three years, everything, the perception
26:03 of the Celtics in the big three changes.
26:07 Because you got two championships.
26:09 And then remember, the year before, Garnett got hurt.
26:13 So they got eliminated by Orlando because Garnett wasn't 100%.
26:17 So you know, and then if you recall, and I know it's 13 years ago now, but Perk tore
26:23 his ACL in Game 6.
26:26 And that affected everything.
26:31 But they had a chance to win Game 7.
26:32 That's a 30-for-30 that Game 7 where they played so well the first three quarters and
26:38 then got tired.
26:39 I mean, Rashid just asking out.
26:41 I mean, Rashid, you know, and we all know Rashid wasn't in the greatest shape during
26:48 his time with the Celtics or whatever.
26:51 But he tapped out of that game.
26:55 But that's just, if they win that game, that Game 7, and now, you know, that adds to Kobe's
27:01 resume.
27:02 Kobe bringing it home.
27:04 So that's on Kobe.
27:05 So it's all-time great Kobe moment.
27:09 But man, I'm sure the Big Three, you know, whenever they get together, I don't care if
27:14 Reigns there or not, I'm sure they lament losing that Game 7.
27:18 Because that changes the whole, like, image of the Big Three.
27:24 When you win two chips instead of one, you know, that's amazing.
27:30 So Doc definitely gets in, but I'm sure he laments and thinks about that every day.
27:38 I think there's a, I think Pop, you know, because obviously Miami came back in 2013
27:47 and beat the Spurs in 7, you know, that incredible shot by Ray Allen and all that.
27:54 There'll be jokes made in the speeches about that.
27:58 Pop asked Doc, like, how long does it take to get over a Game 7 loss?
28:03 And Doc says, "You don't."
28:05 It's just something, you wear it like a scarlet letter.
28:08 Like you wear it forever.
28:10 So if you're Doc and the Celtics, they, you know, they regret that 2010.
28:17 I still think about that, just them kind of giving away Game 6.
28:22 People don't really talk about the Game 6.
28:23 I think they scored 67 points in that Game 6.
28:26 They just handed it to the Lakers.
28:28 They had two to win one.
28:32 But Doc, considering his impact on the game, yes, he has a lot to get into the Hall of
28:38 Fame.
28:39 Well, there you have it.
28:42 We can, we have more that we can talk about, but I think we can save this for next week.
28:46 I will mention though, the reports that Chris Absworthing will miss the FIBA World Cup in
28:52 the start of the NBA season as well with a foot injury.
28:55 And then O'Shea Brissett will reportedly be rehaving his knee instead of playing for Team
29:00 Canada.
29:01 So I think we can go into a little more depth about what effects this will have on the Celtics
29:05 starting off the season.
29:06 But I think this was a good Hall of Fame recap episode.
29:10 Really liked that game.
29:11 Shout out to Sherrod for getting that one out.
29:13 But until next week, this is A-List Podcast.
29:15 I'm Kwanye Lunas, HR Blakely, Gary Washburn.
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