In Conversation With TT Srinivasaraghvan, MD, Sundaram Finance

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Our correspondent Rajat Mishra interviewed TT. Srinivasaraghvan, MD, Sundaram Finance about the crisis NBFCs are reeling under and how announcements made in budget are going to affect the NBFCs.

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Transcript
00:00 The first question that I would like to ask you is, belonging to this NBFC which plays a very vital role in the flourishing economy,
00:07 do you think that this budget has lived up to the expectation of the NBFC sector?
00:11 Well, I don't know about lived up to the expectation but I think the budget has some very huge positives for the NBFC sector.
00:20 First of all, I think is the vote of confidence from the Honourable Finance Minister,
00:26 acknowledging the role that NBFC have played and continue to play.
00:31 So that itself I think was a very major step, positive step.
00:37 And then of course there were specifics in terms of the 1 lakh crore first loss guarantee,
00:44 which the government said they will pick up 10 percent.
00:48 Then there was also some changes on the taxation side.
00:51 So overall I would say after a long time, the Finance Minister has sort of focused specifically on the NBFC sector.
01:01 So overall we would say very positive.
01:04 As the theme of this entire conference is that there are some unfinished agendas.
01:09 So can you throw light on those unfinished agendas?
01:11 Yeah, the major part of the unfinished agenda is to make sure that there is an institutionalised framework to support the growth of NBFCs.
01:20 Because as I think has been repeatedly said, the last mile credit delivery in this country,
01:27 especially to small businesses, small traders, small transport operators, that is essentially done by the NBFC sector.
01:36 And for the economy to grow, and ours is a consumption driven economy,
01:42 and for the economy to grow you need a robust banking sector, you also need a robust NBFC sector.
01:48 So essentially what we are saying is that this is a relationship of a wholesaler and a retailer.
01:55 The banks are the wholesalers, the NBFCs are the retailers.
01:58 So if there is a good institutional framework whereby credit can be delivered to the last mile,
02:05 it's overall good for the economy.
02:07 I don't think we should just make this about what's good for the NBFCs.
02:11 I think it is more about what's good for the overall economy,
02:14 for growth of the automotive sector, for growth of MSMEs, that whole thing.
02:19 And NBFCs play an important role in that growth.
02:23 So I think that's the perspective in which we need to appreciate this.
02:27 Sir, moving on to the next part, the entire crisis was started after the IL and FS defaulting in September
02:32 and after the Diwan housing and finance limitation.
02:35 So how do you see this?
02:36 And you, like in this meeting, one fact came out that we can't generalise this crisis.
02:41 Exactly.
02:42 Can you throw light on that?
02:43 Absolutely. You said it yourself.
02:45 IL/FS happened in August or September 2018.
02:50 We are now almost at the end of July 2019.
02:53 We are still talking only about the same two names.
02:56 IL/FS, DHFL, IL/FS, DHFL.
02:59 So you please tell me, there are nearly 10,000 NBFCs.
03:03 Have you heard any other name defaulting?
03:06 So I think you have answered your own question.
03:09 Initially this was a problem concerning two entities.
03:13 Please fix those entities.
03:15 Don't condemn a whole sector because two people did something wrong.
03:21 So that is the answer.
03:22 The fact that nobody else has gone into default,
03:26 the fact that no one else has created any other problem,
03:30 itself is the answer to your question.
03:32 So what are your future expectations?
03:34 What would you like the government to do?
03:36 We would like this confusion and some of this negative sentiment
03:42 towards NBFCs to settle down very quickly so that people can get on.
03:47 NBFCs can get on, the rest of the economy can get on
03:50 and all the segments of the economy that we serve,
03:54 they can also get on with it.
03:56 So that is our expectation and hopefully it happens sooner than later.
04:01 Thank you.
04:02 Thanks very much.
04:03 Thank you.
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