๐ Is Europe on the brink of collapse?
In this gripping episode of Dialogue Works, geopolitical analyst Alex Krainer breaks down the troubling trends threatening Europeโs future.
๐ Key points explored:
โ ๏ธ Economic instability, energy crises & political disunity
The hidden costs of EU policies and NATO entanglements
๐ง How Western leadership is driving Europe toward decline
๐จ The uncomfortable reality mainstream media wonโt discuss
โ This is not just a warning โ itโs a wake-up call.
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In this gripping episode of Dialogue Works, geopolitical analyst Alex Krainer breaks down the troubling trends threatening Europeโs future.
๐ Key points explored:
โ ๏ธ Economic instability, energy crises & political disunity
The hidden costs of EU policies and NATO entanglements
๐ง How Western leadership is driving Europe toward decline
๐จ The uncomfortable reality mainstream media wonโt discuss
โ This is not just a warning โ itโs a wake-up call.
โ Donโt forget to like, comment, and subscribe for more critical geopolitical discussions.
#AlexKrainer
#EuropeCollapse
#EUCrisis
#Geopolitics
#DialogueWorks
#EuropeanUnion
#EnergyCrisis
#NATOPolicies
#EconomicInstability
#EuropeanPolitics
#WestVsEast
#GlobalShifts
#MediaSilence
#EUFuture
#WakeUpEurope
#WesternDecline
#RussiaEuropeRelations
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00:00:00hi everybody today is friday april 18th 2025 and our friend alex craner is back with us
00:00:12welcome back alex uh hi nima thank you for having me and my humble apologies for being late today
00:00:20problem at all alex let's get started i do apologize everybody who
00:00:26we were trying to i was trying to talk with alex but i couldn't
00:00:33i didn't know if he has received my emails that's why we were
00:00:38i didn't know what's going on and alex didn't know he put on his calendar the next friday instead of
00:00:45this friday yes unfortunately because i spent the whole week traveling and i returned home late last
00:00:52night and i just kind of wrote down i didn't even put it in the calendar because then i would realize
00:00:58a mistake i just kind of wrote it down nima friday that time it but i thought next friday so today i i
00:01:05just until until you actually called me i was i was convinced that i'm uh i'm okay for today
00:01:12alex let's get started with what's going on between the united states and china and we
00:01:27i want to focus on europe today but it's it's so important to understand what's going on between
00:01:33the united states and china here is what victor gaul said in terms of the way that china would respond to
00:01:41the united states so if you want to hold a gun at china's head china will hold a gun at your head
00:01:49if you want to strike china in the cheek china will strike you back that's the decision and the
00:01:56determination of the chinese nation this is not belligerency this is the minimum decency you need
00:02:02to apply to international relations how can you demand other countries i will slap you in the face don't
00:02:08slap me back otherwise i will punish you more that's the law of the jungle the trade war launched
00:02:15by trump is wrong it's the wrong war it's the war against mankind maga or make america great again is
00:02:23fine but you cannot achieve that at the expense of other countries you cannot achieve your greatness
00:02:29by belittling by delegating or relegating other countries to the lowest echelon of the hierarchy every
00:02:36country has its ambition every country wants to be in the first front first round for example and no
00:02:42country should be allowed to trample rules of free trade to trample international order and to dictate
00:02:49to others to issue ultimatum to hold a gun at your head to demand submission to my will this is the law of
00:02:59the jungle and china will never have a part of that and china will fight to death to oppose that
00:03:06yeah you you understand the way that china is perceiving and they're responding to the united states
00:03:14and do you find this sort of talk this sort of attitude on the part of china would resonate with
00:03:21the trump administration do they really want to understand what china is talking about
00:03:26well these are fighting words and they are very at odds with the normal uh policy conduct by chinese
00:03:35government who are otherwise almost impeccably polite and who express themselves in very gentle and and
00:03:47how do you call it constructive terms they avoid uh they avoid this type of abrasive confrontational
00:03:54approach so uh maybe maybe these kinds of statements are coming out now because they assume well maybe
00:04:03uh you know uh the american leadership understands this language so maybe we need to show a tough side
00:04:12uh that you know we we can also bite back uh now uh let's rewind the clock a little bit here because i think that
00:04:22uh to be fair to the administer american administration um they do have real uh grievances against china
00:04:35because china has been very privileged in the global trade for uh the last two or three decades
00:04:43and uh i think that many observers today believe that china has been a currency manipulator you know they
00:04:49have kept their uh their uh currency artificially weak in order to bolster their competitive position
00:04:58vis-a-vis united states and also other countries in the world but we also have to be fair to china
00:05:06this has been enabled by the globalist forces in the west china has been given every leeway
00:05:15to abuse the global trading system to their advantage now why was this done uh it was done because i believe
00:05:23that ever since in uh on 15th august 1971 richard nixon uh ended the convertibility of us dollar into gold
00:05:36that um they understood you know they meaning you know the the real powers in the west not necessarily the
00:05:44elected governments uh but the the you know the money lending oligarchies understood that the currency
00:05:50of the united states uh once it was completely uh a fiat currency would go back to its intrinsic value
00:05:59which is nothing which is you know the value of paper that the dollar would be uh slowly uh destroyed
00:06:06and that the united states would lose its uh predominant position in the world it's it's it's that its wealth
00:06:13would be depleted that military would be depleted and these imperial globalist uh vested interests
00:06:22then need a new host right they need the the they need the next power to become the the global cup
00:06:32and they clearly designated china as their next global cup and so already since the 1970s
00:06:43almost immediately after nixon uh severed the convertibility of dollar of the dollar in in gold
00:06:50uh he and henry kissinger started their overtures towards china to open china up and then gradually
00:06:59uh enabled china to build itself up into this uh global economic superpower and and so all this was uh
00:07:11fine and good until they realized that the chinese didn't cooperate with this with the view of becoming
00:07:19their next global cop but with the view of beheading the this uh western parasite that is
00:07:27you know shifting hosts but always uh intent on building up a global empire and so if you if you go
00:07:37back to the statements but by people like henry kissinger and george soros up until up until i think 2008
00:07:472009 uh maybe even a little bit later they were consistently uh praising the chinese model they were saying
00:07:56that china will be the owner of process of globalization that the whole world should be adopting the chinese
00:08:05model blah blah blah blah blah and then once xi jinping took over they realized it wasn't going to be on their
00:08:11terms and now xi jinping is is the big enemy and the and china must be destroyed uh and so these the
00:08:22these grievances that exist between the united states and and and china are being uh are being used to uh
00:08:36to accentuate the the the the hostilities the the the the conflicts between the two systems uh trump
00:08:45and his government could easily resolve this in a peaceful way through diplomacy but i think that the uh
00:08:55uh there are some of these uh some of the people in his cabinet in his government who are still loyal to
00:09:05the to the globalist interests and i would always equate these globalist interests with the with the money
00:09:14lending oligarchies headquartered in the city of london and on wall street uh they want china destroyed
00:09:24they want china eliminated and so they are using their influence in trump administration to uh let's say
00:09:33prevent a a peaceful diplomatic solution to the to the conflict and to uh drive the process towards some kind
00:09:42of uh um cold war or potentially even hot war at some point in the future
00:09:51what was so amazing alex within while having this sort of conflict between the united states and china
00:09:59you see these people who are in china who are responsible in producing the the products of gucci chanel
00:10:09and all of these famous brands are talking about a product you that costs 1500 they're they're selling
00:10:18it 38 000 it's unbelievable it shows that how china managed its society during the years of this part
00:10:29this some sort of cooperation between the east and the west between china and the united states you when
00:10:35you look at the middle class of china which is almost i don't know i don't know we can say double the size
00:10:42of the population of the united states and you see the united states these oligarchs are getting stronger
00:10:50getting fatter and gaining everything from china but not just helping the society just
00:10:57just just just they don't want to spread this sort of wealth throughout this society it just comes to
00:11:06their pocket this is the i think this is a fundamental issue in terms of the way that china has managed the
00:11:14economic situation in their country and the united states wasn't able to do that deficit tariffs it's all about
00:11:23inefficiency of the the the economic economic system of the united states not about china
00:11:31yes correct and i think that the uh the the the the the video that you referred to i saw it where
00:11:39a chinese a man representing a chinese manufacturer explains in detail how this 38 000 dollar or euro uh handbag
00:11:49uh under hermes brand is produced he explains exactly the process and the material or everything
00:11:56that goes inside and how much it costs and then he says the only we can we can produce the same exact
00:12:02handbag for a thousand dollars we only can put the the same logo as hermes can put but you can have
00:12:10ours for a thousand dollars and the hermes one costs 38 000 dollars well you know this has been one of the
00:12:16one of the you know the blink factor in western power that all of these foreign let's call them
00:12:25uh government officials who you know were were loyal to the west who would be rewarded by having bank
00:12:35accounts in you know in the united states in london in in switzerland in geneva and houses and apartments there
00:12:44uh they were they were they were really being seduced into these positions by saying hey you do this for
00:12:53us and you will be able to buy your lady whatever she wants i i i've literally read testimonials to this
00:13:03effect that they were being bribed by telling them hey uh you will be able to give your lady uh things that
00:13:12she couldn't even dream about and we saw very recently how uh zelensky's wife would travel to
00:13:18london and then when she would spend i don't know a couple of million euros on these or pounds or dollars
00:13:26whatever on these super expensive handbags and luxury and champagne and so this this bling factor
00:13:35of western power is very real because it has a real hold on western uh
00:13:44leaders or or i mean on on on the leaders of all these countries that are loyal to western powers
00:13:52and now we see a very interesting process of this being dismantled and disintegrated because they tell
00:14:00you you know all these really really fancy things well we actually make them and you can have them
00:14:05for a lot less you don't have to pay and so i think that you know if you look at the stock of a company
00:14:11like lvmh in france who is making all these uh louis vuitton i don't know if they own hermes brand but
00:14:17they they own louis vuitton and all these champagne brands and caviar and all of these
00:14:22really really high-end goods uh you know they are part of the big machine of the west you know they
00:14:30are the the they are the the decoration on the facade and now you know with this trade war happening
00:14:39whether intended or not uh the house of cards is coming down and i think that many people will
00:14:46realize that you know all these brands that you guys sell well we can have them for a lot cheaper
00:14:52straight from china and then you know at the very same time i saw another little video explaining
00:14:59the tariffs on china which you know which made me think so this this man was saying look if uh if the
00:15:07united states imposes 25 uh tariff on uh things imported in china it's actually hurting and he gave
00:15:16the uh he gave the example of the nike shoes or the nike brand and he said look uh these shoes that
00:15:23retail in the united states for a hundred dollars they're produced in china for ten dollars 25 percent
00:15:32tariff is applied on the ten dollars that it cost to produce the shoes meaning it's two and a half two
00:15:40and a half dollars so instead of costing ten dollars to produce they cost 12 50. so either in the united
00:15:49states the price goes up from 100 to 102 50 or nike eats up the mark you know nike loses uh the margin a
00:16:01little bit so the the attack is hurting these global brands the most not necessarily the chinese
00:16:12because a western consumer still has the option of ordering those same shoes for 10 bucks or 12 50
00:16:21direct from china maybe they won't have the swish brand maybe they will be a but you know exactly the
00:16:28same product and now comes the time where the western consumer is being educated about the how the
00:16:34whole supply chain actually works who who makes the most money and then you know with the with with the
00:16:41places like alibaba temu or other chinese retailers and with these super efficient payment systems that
00:16:50exist you know you can you find something some little ad in social media and then you go like click click
00:16:57click and five minutes later the thing is on its way and it actually arrives i've i've bought things
00:17:04direct from china and direct from india and it's not just china it's it's elsewhere i purchase things
00:17:10and they arrive you know they come by federal express dhl by by by post uh you pay them online and you
00:17:18no longer need to go to the to the big retail store and pay all these western brands their premium
00:17:24uh prices so i think that uh you know whatever whatever this trade war and you know like you
00:17:31have to act you have to ask yourself uh did the trump administration people know that this would be the
00:17:38effect did they know who they were going to hurt or is this like um unintended consequence and an adverse
00:17:46outcome uh that they're starting to get but i see that you know the global the global system of trade
00:17:57is is now going through uh through a very interesting change uh which i think in the end might end up
00:18:04benefiting all of us you know the the western consumer hurting the big brands the big names
00:18:12and helping the chinese in the way that you know they will be continued they will be able to continue
00:18:20producing if not for nike if not for intel then maybe for independent um brands and retailers and
00:18:30producers because you know now you can go to night and to the same manufacturer that produces nike shoes
00:18:37you can say well you know i want to create a nema brand i want a dialogue works shoes
00:18:44make it exactly like the nike same quality same materials similar designs but put dialogue works on
00:18:51it and i'll sell it for not 100 bucks for 20 bucks and now you're in business and it takes very little
00:18:59to actually make this happen so i don't know it seems like we're going in the direction of uh
00:19:05democratizations of of the retail industries and uh i think the people who are screaming the loudest about
00:19:13this are exactly uh the the bond holders of of brands like nike and lvmh and hermes and so forth because
00:19:22they realize that they stand to lose and lose very very big from all this
00:19:26alex do you buy when you buy from china do you buy it in dollar in how does it work in your yes i
00:19:36usually pay in us dollars usually the price is denominated in us dollars and then you pay with
00:19:42the credit with your credit card or you pay by paypal but those you know the the important thing is that
00:19:48these systems work almost flawlessly and i think that to derail them you need some kind of a pretty
00:19:58heavy-handed political uh interference with them uh i don't i don't know you know it's really it's not
00:20:09china it's not just china i've ordered things from other parts of the world and uh the system works
00:20:17you know this whole system of distribution through to through to post offices to dhl
00:20:24and these payments it all works which means that entrepreneurs and retailers from any country
00:20:31can now access the global market uh with very low barriers to entry and completely change the game of
00:20:40the global trade uh always to the detriment of these big brands that are charging premium prices for
00:20:47their products and those products obviously don't have to cost anything near the prices that they are
00:20:53charging and so you know that's another that's another whole big area where uh the traditional
00:21:01providers you know mostly mostly european countries you know french products swiss products belgium products
00:21:07i don't know are now uh going to have to work extra hard to justify their prices and their very special
00:21:16products will become available from other producers elsewhere in the world so we'll see but
00:21:23uh the changes are definitely interesting and then if if this heavy-handed political interference doesn't
00:21:32come to happen because it could only come from europe really you know not even the united states europe
00:21:41uh if if that doesn't happen then this this whole new universe of uh small retailers small small artisans
00:21:53uh uh publish to order build to order produce to order system of production will be able to uh
00:22:06completely change the world and make it easy for people like you and me to set up new businesses
00:22:12and to sell products and services everywhere in the world uh without without obstacles and without
00:22:20without uh very very high barriers to entry and i think that's a very encouraging process
00:22:26it'll happen if between let's say between the trump administration
00:22:32china and russia uh they they manage this new trading system for the world and and let's say overcome
00:22:40certain barriers that uh still exist today
00:22:43the reason i ask you if you buy things products from china in u.s dollar because here in brazil we
00:22:52don't do that we buy everything in brazilian currency it doesn't matter if dollar goes up down
00:22:58it did the price still the same and well i you see i have the option of buying it in euros
00:23:07the reason why i buy it in u.s dollars is because i have a u.s dollar account uh with paypal and i have
00:23:13u.s dollar accounts with with another bank where i have you know the credit card so uh it's but it's
00:23:21actually all the same but i think that you the question you ask is actually very relevant because what
00:23:28that implies then is that we're no longer dependent on the dollar because i guess any country can use
00:23:36their own currency uh for exactly these types of transactions it'll be then the question of a
00:23:43bilateral agreement between that country and china to somehow then clear this trade
00:23:51either with with through through commodities or gold or or whichever uh but yes that's that that then
00:24:01uh is is a step in the process of de-dollarizing the world or at least um giving
00:24:10people access to alternatives without having to go through the whole dollar system and then everything
00:24:16flowing through you know federal reserve banks in the united states or european banks who are part of
00:24:22the euro dollar uh system two years ago that's why i'm telling you two years ago we had to change it to
00:24:30dollar and then send it to china and the whole process was totally different right now is there is no us dollar
00:24:39in the middle to to to to communicate and i think that it was a huge change for brazil for brazilian
00:24:50customers because you you had to pay the taxes from because you had to change your your brazilian
00:24:58currency to dollar then dollar to chinese currency and in the process you had to pay at least two times the
00:25:05tax right yeah and we had the taxes from the government all of that but right now it's all eliminated and we
00:25:14have just the tax of importation if it goes beyond a a determined sort of value that the brazilian
00:25:24government is putting out but the whole process was so much right now it's so much easier than it was
00:25:32before and you can buy things easily in i i would say if i buy something from china in i will receive it
00:25:45in a in a very rap it would be much easier to receive something from china than from brazil from
00:25:52others right it yes it arrives practically in in a few days right a few days yes same experience here
00:26:00and you know what else i noticed because i used to be a great fan of amazon
00:26:04right i you know 20 some years ago amazon was was a phenomenal because nothing like this ever existed
00:26:13you know like if you said in a non-english speaking country getting books in english was very very
00:26:19difficult and then so amazon made it very easy to buy buy books online and then to buy uh cds and and
00:26:28then more and more and more and more product but what i see now is that very often if you go on amazon
00:26:33you find listings of products that are there that are listed in the catalog but they're not available
00:26:41for sale they don't you know it's it's there but you can't order it and it's more and more and more
00:26:47things and so many times i find i found myself wanting to buy something but i couldn't buy it and then i
00:26:54thought well how do i get this now and then i thought well i'll check alibaba and then you check
00:27:00alibaba sure enough all of those products and a thousand times more it's like a forever of choice
00:27:07it's all there and it's super easy to buy and uh the chinese retailers are extremely professional you
00:27:14know the thing arrives it's properly packaged they insert a little catalog of other products that they also
00:27:21offer uh you it's it's it's some kind of a combination of um 21st century online shopping
00:27:32with turkish bazaar because some products you can order directly like click and it goes with other
00:27:38products uh you have to go and get in touch with the producer and then an actual human being engages with
00:27:45you and you talk to them and then you know they they say like okay i'll i'll give you an order because
00:27:50it's the first time you buy from us but in the end the process works and you get the thing and what
00:27:57they what they say that they will send to you you receive it it's not like you get like a wooden laptop
00:28:03you know like once upon a time people would order cheap laptops and then they would receive a wooden one
00:28:09and so i i think that's an absolutely phenomenal development and i'm very glad that you you you shared
00:28:16your news about brazil because that means that some very significant problem was solved between china
00:28:23and brazil in a bilateral fashion so they made sure that these these these uh trade communications and
00:28:30payment systems function flawlessly which will ultimately be to the benefit of you know chinese
00:28:37producers and brazilian uh consumers but that also means that probably the process is two-sided
00:28:44so now if uh if a if a producer of something in brazil wants to sell their products in china
00:28:52process probably functions just as smoothly which is which is then fantastic because we don't have to
00:28:58as you said we don't have to go through these conversions of buying dollars and then converting
00:29:03the dollars into chinese yuan and then i think it's i think it's a it's a revolution uh for for the global economy
00:29:12actually alex the rumors that it seems it's getting much more serious as as time goes by is that the
00:29:22brics will announce a new international payment system and we know that the tariff war on china
00:29:36and the conflicts in ukraine in the middle east which is i don't see any sort of and even the trump
00:29:44administration is not sure about the conflict in ukraine they don't know they're waiting for a
00:29:48response from russia i would assume that the the sort of response they're waiting for is same sort of
00:29:55response they're waiting from china they're not going to get it and how is that going to influence
00:30:02the bricks and the future of breaks in european you see i believe that in the end the united states
00:30:12will have to join that the united states will discover we can't beat them so we join them and
00:30:20i think that in one of my conversations with larry johnson i think he was the the he owns this quote but
00:30:27i i really like it he said and maybe i'm maybe it wasn't him but i if i remember correctly it was he
00:30:34said the united states has the choice of being the global policeman and forcing everybody to submit to
00:30:42their will or they can be a polite guest at the global banquet and i think that's a really good way to
00:30:51put it because i think that if you remove all this intermediation all this debt financing all these
00:31:00premium prices that are being uh imposed by virtue of near monopolies because you know if you if you
00:31:07buy if you want to buy we're talking about tennis shoes right you have a handful of brands that we
00:31:13recognize because you know you have nike and this and this and this uh and then they get to charge you
00:31:2110 times what it cost them to uh to produce that thing and we pay because we don't know any better
00:31:27but once you start learning about the production processes somebody explains to you well is this
00:31:33material and this thread and this glue and this is how we put it together and we are doing it so we
00:31:40can do it for anybody any brand uh any materials any colors then you realize oh i guess i can have the
00:31:49same thing for one tenth of the price oh that's interesting because you know the result is that we are then
00:31:58all a lot wealthier because we're no longer paying the rent to the to the to the landlord right so now we
00:32:07can live for free i'm i'm i'm i'm uh making a i'm making i'm using a metaphor but you know suddenly uh
00:32:18by virtue of this in immense productivity that our our societies are now capable of uh we could all be a
00:32:28lot wealthier and we could buy we can actually afford nice things to use the the cliche rather than not being
00:32:36able to afford nice things we can afford them and you know a 38 000 euro handbag can now be had for
00:32:45a thousand euros well that's something and then who knows what else because i've you know one of the
00:32:52things i've discovered in in you know kind of informally researching these things is that there
00:32:59are much much better products out there serving the same thing for which i thought i needed something
00:33:04else you know i i wanted to buy xyz product and then i discovered from chinese manufacturers that they
00:33:12have a much much better solution and i don't need that product at all i can have this other thing that
00:33:17does the same thing much better and the thing is much cheaper than what i was planning to spend
00:33:22and so there's like a whole world of discovery out there for you know not just for consumers but
00:33:28also for entrepreneurs because you could you could take one of these solutions you can brand it you know
00:33:37alex crainer or nima alkorshed and and and bring it to the market uh to people uh who didn't know that
00:33:45this kind of a solution uh existed uh yeah alex and the main focus of this talk today i wanted as i
00:33:58mentioned in the in the beginning of the this talk i i wanted to focus on europe and the way that europe
00:34:06is dealing with donald trump and these new phenomenon in their eyes in the eyes of european it's a new
00:34:11phenomenon that they have to deal with and we had maloney was in the united states and on the other
00:34:21hand you see germany is in a big problem they're just mercedes-benz is just moving to hungary
00:34:30and because of why they're doing this because of cheap russian gas that that's why they're doing this
00:34:38because the german government is so stubborn not to admit that they're killing themselves
00:34:44how on one part you see the trump administration tries to gain everything at its disposal for the
00:34:52benefit of the united states on the other hand you see the europe is somehow confused they don't know
00:34:58what do they want they don't know what would be the benefit for europe even they don't i i don't see
00:35:04they're somehow dealing with donald trump but they're destroying themselves in the in the in
00:35:11in this conflict in ukraine in the tremendous hate and i don't know enmity that they're having toward
00:35:19russia how do you see europe today how do you see europe dealing with the united states because europe needs
00:35:27or maybe we should say european countries need to think about how to deal with the united states because if
00:35:34the war between between china and the united states as we know get worse and we know that the europe
00:35:44has in european countries need to have a new strategy in terms of dealing with these two superpowers
00:35:51their superpower there has to be something there to deal with it do you see that existing or the european
00:35:58countries going after that uh it exists on the margins but it doesn't exist in the mainstream i
00:36:05think in the mainstream the the the political leadership of major european powers is profoundly
00:36:12disoriented they they they have absolutely no idea what just hit them because uh the you're the whole
00:36:20setup in europe has been that they are a loyal vassal of the united states that is they're the loyal vassal of
00:36:27the western empire and then the western empire takes care of them uh defends their privileges vis-a-vis the
00:36:35rest of the world and uh that this was this relationship was very much taken for granted and so uh they
00:36:44as vassals became engrossed in as far as i can say two major projects one of them is net zero and the other
00:36:54one is uh ukraine and they were completely unprepared that their uh that the boss that the the new sheriff
00:37:07would uh drop them that that he would withdraw their protection that he would increase the price of
00:37:15protection racket because said first it was two percent of gdp for defense now it's five percent of the
00:37:21gdp for defense it's not it's not really increasing the price it's telling them we're done and giving
00:37:29them such extortionate price that no country in europe can even dream about allocating five percent of it
00:37:36you know it's not five percent of the government budget it's five percent of the gdp the size of this
00:37:42is extraordinary you know like for germany they would now have to spend more than half of their
00:37:49government budget on defense to satisfy the united states so that trump would say like well okay then
00:37:55we'll uh we'll guarantee your security uh but not those others who pay less than five percent it's
00:38:02it's an impossible it's it's a way of saying we're done with you all and so i think that the ability of
00:38:11individual european governments to deal with the united states as with russia as with china as with
00:38:20all the other powers uh is there but it's in opposition and it's on bilateral basis everything
00:38:28that goes through brussels i'm afraid it's it's too ossified uh around this uh obsolete
00:38:37post-world war ii global order which is now disintegrating and so i think that the fix will
00:38:44not be found there and i think that this order of things in europe will get very very pathological
00:38:55and i think that it will do everything that it can to push europe into world war three that to to uh
00:39:02uh weaponize european societies in every way in order to orchestrate uh a big uh war third big war on
00:39:14the european continent against russia they are dead serious about this about this they're doing it uh the
00:39:22drive is coming predominantly from london but also with uh wholehearted support support from paris
00:39:28uh as well as the the netherlands and then some other minor countries in europe like the the baltic
00:39:36states denmark sweden and so forth uh i hope that the drive will fail because europe is now lacking
00:39:44a number of the ingredients that you need for a big war you know not just um not just the public um
00:39:51um acquiescence the public consent for war you need also heavy industries and you know steel
00:40:00and then in addition to in order to for the heavy industries to run you need uh you need cheap energy
00:40:09which europe doesn't have and i think that what you mentioned your mercedes-benz shifting some of their
00:40:15production to to to hungary because of access to cheap energy is is symptomatic exactly in this sense
00:40:23because you have a country which is which is uh defending their own sovereignty which is defending
00:40:30their ability to have trade deals with with other countries independent of brussels and which is refusing
00:40:36to to to sanction russia in exactly the same way that the europe is doing and so they therefore have
00:40:44access to cheap russian uh energy whereas germany doesn't any longer poland doesn't any longer
00:40:52and so we see industry going to where countries are sovereign
00:41:02and in that they they can provide security because you know if you make a major investment in a country
00:41:09you want to be sure that it's going to be okay for 20 30 50 100 years
00:41:15whereas if you're if you if you're uh planning business in this madhouse called europe
00:41:22it's very very difficult and i honestly nema i feel this on my own skin
00:41:29because what happened to me two two weeks ago is that i i i developed a certain business
00:41:39everything was put in place the business started and what happened then two weeks ago my bank
00:41:48blocks my account so now you cannot pay bills you cannot get paid and you have no recourse there's
00:41:58you know because this is not where you know the the the law enforcement suspects that you've done
00:42:06something wrong or illegal or criminal and then they do an investigation and then they determine
00:42:14you know they they determine the prosecution file and then you go to court and you defend yourself
00:42:20no this is just the bank saying hey justify your business to us
00:42:26and then they say nope we're not happy with this because you know some some of these things should even
00:42:32be confidential you know that a contract between you and your client should be confidential right
00:42:37the bank should not be able to ask you this but they say we don't care we're just going to block your
00:42:43account which which can completely destroy your business and they have no you know they have no
00:42:49case against you there's no law that you're breaking they're not proving that you've done anything wrong
00:42:54they're just saying you're guilty until you can prove to us that you're not and so this is you know
00:43:04european union's legal framework has been turned over on its head and it's creating a a profound sense of
00:43:13insecurity and we're all hitched to you know like we're all subject to this whereas a sovereign nation
00:43:21like hungary can maybe provide you better guarantees that they will not interfere with you unless they
00:43:28can prove that you're doing things illegally outside of the bounds of law and so maybe you know it's it's
00:43:35cheap energy but there's also all these other elements which in this eu madhouse are becoming so
00:43:44unpredictable that i think that any business person any entrepreneur any industry uh have to feel
00:43:54a sense of profound insecurity because you know if they can do it to to me they can do it to anybody
00:44:00else and they can probably do it to whole industries they can you know somebody in brussels can decide that
00:44:05xyz pharma pharmaceutical company uh you know maybe maybe uh maybe pfizer wants to buy them out
00:44:13and maybe these people want to remain independent well then you know through the banking system you can
00:44:18squeeze them and force them to become absorbed into a burgeoning monopoly europe is becoming a a an
00:44:27economy of it's it's being sovietized that's what's going on alex i think as time goes by europe
00:44:36needs to understand needs to ask itself do they really need the european union or even the broader
00:44:45issue would be does europe need nato because i see european union as a tool in the hand of nato
00:44:54to do whatever they want to do making new enemies making new wars and these are huge questions for europe
00:45:03to be answered in the near future unless they're just going down and just destroying themselves tell
00:45:09me uh yes you're absolutely right there is uh an unexplained symbiotic relationship between the european
00:45:20union and nato and uh you know when when croatia was applying to become a member of the united nations
00:45:30maybe of the european union uh we first had to become a member of nato so i think that croatia
00:45:36became a nato country uh nato member country in 2008 2009 something like this and uh and it became um
00:45:46it became member of the european union uh four years later in 2013 and you know if you ask the officials
00:45:54they will deny it no no no no one has nothing to do with the other you know that's different those are
00:45:59different things one is about security the other one is about freedom and democracy or whatever but
00:46:06uh you know at the time in croatian media in in in the public discourse it was taken for granted
00:46:14that becoming a member a nato of a member of nato was a precondition that we could not even dream
00:46:21about becoming a member of the eu without the first becoming a member of nato now this is the reason is
00:46:30because most of these population of eastern european countries were very much in favor of the being
00:46:37member of the eu we all wanted to be a member of the eu because we perceived it as a better a better
00:46:44rule of law a more prosperous union where you know we would be able to trade and and and you know have
00:46:52higher salaries and bigger businesses and and so on and so forth and so you know nato most people were
00:47:00not in favor of joining nato but they thought like okay it's a bitter bitter pill to swallow for
00:47:07you know a better future with the european union of course this all turned out not to be quite exactly
00:47:13true but it it so happens that uh 11 out of 11 nations of eastern europe who became members of the
00:47:22united european union first became members of nato and the same thing is is uh happening with ukraine
00:47:32you know ukrainians uh are being promised or were being promised membership in the european union
00:47:40but first they have to become a member of nato and you know you this this always goes through this
00:47:47interminable process where a country has to practically submit it has to become a colony of the european
00:47:54union uh through these interminable negotiations where all kinds of pressures are being applied uh you
00:48:01know ukraine concretely i i think that they they first began negotiations with the european union
00:48:09at some point in 2007 or even earlier and then they had i think 22 consecutive annual summits
00:48:18uh of accession between eu ukraine summit and
00:48:27every time the european union officials would find some reason why ukraine is not ready or you have to
00:48:34improve your rule of law or you have to improve the independence of your judiciary independence of
00:48:39your central bank uh media freedoms human rights blah blah blah they would always find a reason to dismiss
00:48:46them but it's you know it's this invisible carrot that was being offered them and they were being strung
00:48:53along but the the first milestone was to push them into nato and in ukraine's concrete example there was an
00:49:04even even more immediate milestone and that was to go to war against against uh russia and so you're
00:49:13absolutely right about that and the problem is that this is not transparent this is not laid out in the
00:49:19the open to say okay you can become a member of the eu but first you have to join nato this is never
00:49:25said explicitly but you know if you observe it happen again and again and again in country after
00:49:31country after country and then you look at what the officials are are discussing in the process of
00:49:36application to nato to you then it's unmistakable uh nato and the you know european union was being
00:49:43dangled in front of all these countries as some prestigious club to join but first you must join
00:49:49nato and then you have to pay the protection racket and then you know what happens when you join nato
00:49:54then they tell you okay first of all your whole intelligence system your whole uh secret state police
00:50:01has to become uh dominated and and and uh run by by nato officials it has to become part of the nato uh
00:50:10uh internal security mechanisms and then we're going to overhaul your defense industries so for example
00:50:17croatia had its own production of heavy um heavy heavy military equipment you know cannons howitzers uh 152
00:50:27millimeter uh rounds and uh and um even we had a production of the i think t82 tank which was based on the
00:50:38soviet model but uh modernized a very very very good uh uh very battle effective tank that we produce
00:50:47domestically well you know because now they want to sell you the the you know the leopards and uh
00:50:53then they say like no you have to completely uh stop your heavy you you can you can produce light arms
00:51:00but not the heavy equipment that you have to buy from us and uh you know to buy that from us you have to pay
00:51:06our you know military industrial complex for that and so it's a big it's a big protection racket in in
00:51:12the end yeah alex in the middle east we know that the united states is just moving a lot of
00:51:22bombs to israel and preparing in the diego garcia is really just preparing even we had a an article in
00:51:30new york times talking about there is some sort of division within the trump administration one
00:51:37side wants to go wants to assist or help israel in attacking iran and the other part are just against
00:51:46it this is not the right time to attack iran how do you think that what's going on i actually when we
00:51:57talk about new york times i just i feel that new york time is not that much credible to
00:52:07we're very kind the the the the the official rhetoric for the for the united states but
00:52:16do you feel do you think that that net neo would be that much stupid to attack iran
00:52:23if the united states let him to do i i think not nema i mean and it's not because he's stupid
00:52:33but i think because he knows that he would be defeated in a very spectacular fashion you know the
00:52:42israeli attack would be ineffective
00:52:44as their last attack was and then the retaliatory strike from iran would be devastating so that would
00:52:54be on him so you know the he still wants to attack iran but he wants the united states to lead the charge
00:53:05so that the united states uh does all the dirty work and all the heavy lifting
00:53:11and he says like well you know it's uh it's our ally and they they agreed with us they know that we
00:53:19have to stop these uh these more these evil mullahs in in tehran right um and make sure that they don't
00:53:27have uh you know weapons or nuclear programs civil or military or any kind of anything they have to go back
00:53:33to being nomads with camels i guess uh but he would prefer for the united states to own that war
00:53:43because israel by itself
00:53:46gets a shot in the face and i think that's pretty much the end of it if the united states owns the
00:53:55war then it can turn into you know it can escalate uh you know united states attacks iran iran strikes
00:54:03back then the united states says like well this is you know this cannot stand now we're gonna send
00:54:09infantry and and you know whole the whole ground assault into into iran and we mobilize our allies
00:54:18in the region and we mobilize the nato and everybody and we go into this big giant war against iran
00:54:25and then maybe hopefully in a long protracted guagmire they managed to regime change iran bring it back
00:54:35into the fold install you know the the the next sha they they already have the the son of uh reza pachlavi
00:54:46right lined up he's he's begging for the job he's going there uh to israel and and being friends with
00:54:54netanyahu and everybody um so in that case you know that fantasy might hold water a little bit
00:55:01but it would entail a major escalation of the war so not just the united states not just israel but
00:55:09a big escalation a world war actually against iran whereas if israel attacks by itself
00:55:18it's just gonna you know it will be just like hopping into the ring with mike tyson
00:55:23you know you're gonna throw a punch and then you're gonna get knocked out and that's gonna be the end of
00:55:27it so that doesn't work at all and when it comes to russia and china it seems alex the the whole
00:55:38changes that has happened that have happened during the conflict in ukraine taiwan middle east it's just
00:55:46as each and every day we see that the connection between iran russia and china is growing and is
00:55:53growing stronger we have iranian foreign minister yes they went to to russia to talk to deliver the
00:56:03letter of the supreme leader of iran to wladimir kuhn we have china totally connected with russia in
00:56:10terms of their economic war with the united states and i would
00:56:16uh i would i was wondering if the united states has any sort of a strategic plan in the new
00:56:26administration we were talking about donald trump and his administration before he come before donald
00:56:33trump coming to power in the united states we had some sort of hope that he's going to change it
00:56:38but do you think that these people who are working with him like marco rubio
00:56:42these are pretty the establishment of the united states these are not people or i see marco rubio as
00:56:49the same way that i saw mike pompeo i don't see any sort of difference between the two characters
00:56:56i do you think that these people are going to continue working with donald trump
00:57:01or as time goes by they're gonna donald trump would fire them
00:57:06because if we assume the first administration that wouldn't help us in sorting out the things
00:57:14with the united states it would be a quagmire it's it's an interesting question in mind i think that
00:57:22we can only guess but you know we can see that um trump
00:57:28i think i i agree with you about marco rubio but we can see that trump keeps a certain distance
00:57:36keeps marco rubio at a certain distance that you know he sends him to talk to
00:57:45you know his counterpart like the foreign minister or or even lower uh but he sends
00:57:52steve whitkoff to talk to the real people the people like sergey lavrov and and vladimir putin and
00:58:01so i think why is that i think that he has a certain personal relationship with whitkoff
00:58:11i think that he has a certain personal loyalty uh bond with steve whitkoff and i think that he sends
00:58:20him where uh important deals are being discussed and prepared whereas marco rubio you know well you
00:58:28know in one of those press conferences he told him in front of everybody we're gonna keep it we're gonna
00:58:34keep an eye on you very carefully ha ha ha you know but it it it tells you something it's you know my
00:58:42my biggest source of uh confusion about this is are these people making it up as they go along
00:58:52or do they have a plan have they thought things through and uh from many many people
00:59:01uh i i've got basically the following impression people who know uh trump or who know people who have
00:59:09dealt with trump they all say that trump is not exactly a deep thinker that he is not really very
00:59:17focused uh that he doesn't read and that he kind of shoots off the hip that's the impression rightly or
00:59:27wrongly that's what i get but i also got some information from people like for example
00:59:39a a a croatian politician from bosnia who went to washington to deal with not with trump but
00:59:50not even with rubio but people in trump administration a little bit lower in the run in the in the ranks
00:59:57and he said that he was very surprised that these people are extraordinarily well briefed well informed
01:00:03and very knowledgeable he he said look i went there i thought i was going to have to explain to them where
01:00:08bosnia is on the map and how they knew everything so they were they were very qualified to have
01:00:16these high level talks with him and to know what the issues are and so he went away with a very very
01:00:27positive impression of the trump administration but you see that's a little bit lower in the ranks
01:00:34but still you know this is very important because as we know you know you might have
01:00:39marco rubio and pete hexet who say like yay let's go bomb iran you know we're gonna win we're the best
01:00:47but then they have to mobilize this whole hierarchy and you know as as people like um larry johnson say
01:00:54and douglas mcgregor he says it's very often the colonels the colonels in the in the in the military
01:01:00who decide what's going to end up being done and what's not going to end up being done because you
01:01:05know maybe pete hexet can say like bomb iran and maybe his generals will say like aye aye sir we're going to go
01:01:13bomb iran but maybe then the the colonels and and and and and the lower ranking people are going
01:01:19to say are you mad we're not doing this and then you know the the machine stops they say like no we
01:01:26can't do this for this reason the send back the send back the uh the feedback that we're we're not
01:01:33doing this for xyz reasons and then you know they have to take this into account well we had a we had a
01:01:40an example of this when um last year uh keir starmer came to washington dc and met with the biden
01:01:52administration people and he came with a list of targets in iran because you know like it's always
01:01:59the british who are who are pushing for this war in the middle east he they came no sorry um list of
01:02:07targets in russia to strike and uh jake sullivan anthony blinken george biden was on autopen already
01:02:20they were all in in favor of this but then the feedback came from a lower in the ranks in the
01:02:26pentagon saying no we're not doing this this is a suicide mission goodbye and in the end uh biden had
01:02:33to tell keir starmer sorry we're not doing this even though later then he reversed himself and then
01:02:39he was like okay okay we're gonna launch some attack comes into russia and they did but the whole
01:02:47the whole gambit of escalating escalating the conflict to a direct conflict between
01:02:52united states and russia didn't go through and i think that maybe uh in the same way
01:02:58even if you have neocons in trump's cabinet who might be pushing for this i think it's going to
01:03:08meet resistance from from the military ranks
01:03:14alex i think in terms of the future of what's going on between the united states and russia and on
01:03:20the other hand between the united states and iran what could help the process would be
01:03:25just lifting the primary sanctions because the secondary sanctions are hitting the other countries
01:03:32that are somehow in some sort of relationship with russia or iran but if the united states decides to
01:03:40lift the primary sanctions the sanctions that which would lead that the american business is going to
01:03:47iran and russia this this sort of attitude on the trump on the part of the trump administration would
01:03:54bring a huge change in the in terms of negotiations that are going on right now because i i would not
01:04:03argue that if donald trump does this would separate russia and china russia and iran from china
01:04:12but would facilitate the way that you were picturing the future would facilitate the way that the united
01:04:20states can cooperate with bricks can coexist with bricks in a prosperous way
01:04:28yes i agree with you but i think that they're going to run into a very strong headwind headwinds from
01:04:35vested interest because there's going to be a lot of people who are going to end up
01:04:39disenfranchised from their interests in the middle east for example the military-industrial complex you
01:04:47know they you know for them going into a big war in the middle east would be wonderful it would be
01:04:53it would be massive orders from the government for for aircraft missiles ammunition bombs and all of
01:05:01these things so they don't necessarily want peace they don't necessarily want lifting of sanctions um
01:05:10oil industry probably uh you see it's it's not easy to interpret these things
01:05:22if you can't see the lay of the land exactly but suppose you lift sanctions from iran
01:05:31and now iran is free to fully develop their oil industry
01:05:37and export to the global market without any restrictions
01:05:45this would be very bad for the price of oil this would bring the the oil price uh much much lower
01:05:52uh if the oil prices are uh let's say they go back to 40 30 dollars a barrel something like this
01:06:02well that also reduces the value of the collateral
01:06:06that western banks hold through their you know through their client corporations like bp and shell and
01:06:15exxon mobil and so forth and then uh you know it jeopardizes uh all these companies debt to these banks
01:06:26maybe
01:06:29they're no longer so profitable they can no longer finance their um they can no longer finance their uh
01:06:35their obligations to these banks and then they become zombies and now you have bad debt on your
01:06:43on your on your books and you you need a bailout from your from your central bank
01:06:50so it could it could exacerbate the inflationary process that's already there anyhow
01:06:57so you know i think that there's a lot of very powerful interests uh within the u.s economy that
01:07:08don't want peace that they don't want lifting of sanctions and uh so that's you know even if even if
01:07:18trump and people like jd vance and whitkoff you know the the let's say the non-neocons in the in the trump
01:07:26administration even if they see this uh because it's relatively simple arithmetic of you know finance
01:07:34uh they are they are very very powerful interests that are going to be opposed to this and who are going
01:07:40to press hard to make sure and you know they will they will not say this in the open as i just
01:07:48try to explain it they will say oh you know iran is the number one sponsor of terror in the world
01:07:55they're terrible the the these um it's a regime of religious mullahs and you know all these all these
01:08:03ugly derogatory labels that they use but they always try to wrap it into something that seems publicly
01:08:10acceptable to say oh you know we're standing up there for principles and freedom and our number one best
01:08:17buddy ally in the world israel and we need to help them and protect them and you know making a deal
01:08:25with the now the newest thing is that making a deal with tehran would be um appeasement you know like
01:08:32naval chamberland in 1938 again they they reached for that world appeasement so they're making it very
01:08:39very difficult for trump to do this and so i i don't know how the situation will work out with with
01:08:45with respect to russia i think it's not really such a big issue because the russians themselves
01:08:52don't necessarily want the lift the lifting of sanctions as at this point because they want their
01:08:58domestic uh you know banking and corporate world to reorient their activity towards the east towards
01:09:07china and russia and iran and so forth and they don't want them again to start um looking at the at the
01:09:14united states as the as the global center of gravity um i think for iran it's it's a bit more
01:09:20complicated uh but uh we'll see what happens um i think maybe it'll take a while or maybe it'll be
01:09:30gradual uh but there's going to be a lot of headwinds from from the from the ruling establishment in the
01:09:38united states from the corporates and from the banking sector
01:09:43can you show me a single point on this map on the planet on our planet that the united states
01:09:50and the policy of military industrial complex has been beneficial to the united states as a nation
01:10:00because when you look at the war in ukraine they were defeated hands down they were defeated in ukraine
01:10:09it was as new york times reported it was the united states that was defeated in ukraine it wasn't ukraine
01:10:18and this situation in taiwan would be the same the middle east would make a huge chaos for
01:10:24the united states and the future of the economy of the united states that's why i think as you
01:10:32mentioned before in terms of the deal between the united states this sort of tariff war between the
01:10:37united states and china and the case of gucci chanel all of these branded oligarchs are getting the
01:10:45benefit not the people not not the nation and that is called the united states
01:10:52the united states how do you think that in the united states those people those those decision
01:10:58makers are rethinking their strategy in terms of why do we need the military industrial complex can
01:11:04we replace it with something else that could be beneficial to us and to those people who are
01:11:10involved in the military industrial complex you cannot just remove them because there's not so much
01:11:15powerful you have to find a solution for that uh yes i think you're absolutely right and i think that
01:11:23the problem is exactly that for the last uh 100 years a bit longer the united states has been co-opted
01:11:32and infiltrated by the uh by the by the globalist power by the by the by the by the vested interests
01:11:42who are actually the the the owners of this western empire uh and this is a reincarnation of the british
01:11:54empire which you know began to collapse it collapsed at the end of the 19th century and into the 20th century
01:12:02and now we know it as a matter of record that they actually had uh
01:12:11strategy debates about how to continue and they decided that they needed to
01:12:18shift to the united states and use the united states as the as their as their global cop and so the effect
01:12:25of this is that the united states has been exhausted militarily and economically and politically and
01:12:31diplomatically on every on every front because they've been they've been enforcing this global order
01:12:39since practically since world war one and uh they have they have had to
01:12:47maintain these hundreds upon hundreds of military bases everywhere around the world i don't know
01:12:54it's what the count is now like about 800 military bases it used to be a thousand military bases in
01:13:00so many hundreds of nations around the world they have these special operations forces that intervene
01:13:08wherever you know where somebody has to be kidnapped or assassinated or regime changed
01:13:14and you know this is a massive cost uh obviously american people have to be lied to about all of this
01:13:20because you know they wouldn't stand for it if they knew what their wealth is being squandered on
01:13:26and what their taxes are being used for and uh and obviously in every engagement
01:13:33the united states find itself weakened so they went to iraq didn't work out so well then they went to afghan
01:13:41they went to afghanistan first they got kicked out by the taliban there at a massive cost of i don't know
01:13:48three trillion dollars and and uh 20 years there now they're uh at risk of falling into a guagmire in the
01:13:57middle east uh they're being the united states is being pressured to continue to provide security guarantee
01:14:06for ukraine at its own cost and at risk of um ended up involved in a in a in a world war against a
01:14:18nuclear superpower which is russia and this is all you know they're being they're being kind of induced to
01:14:26do this with this zelensky offer of 500 billion dollars of uh of rare earth minerals which is
01:14:35really a cat in the bag kind of a deal it's it's a three card monte it's it's by now so obvious and so
01:14:41transparent that i would be surprised if everybody in trump administration didn't see right through this
01:14:49which is i think why uh it's exactly marco rubio who said in in in an interview after he met with uh
01:14:58zelensky i think in february he said i hope they're not hustling us but you know if he said that
01:15:08uh in public in in a public interview then you know that this is what the administration actually
01:15:14thinks and then also that same marco rubio said explicitly that the post-world war ii
01:15:22global order is now being used as a weapon against us meaning you know as a weapon against the united
01:15:27states and you can see from there um from from the from the u.s policies from their positioning from the
01:15:35way they uh they discuss things with other leaders in the world that they are particularly
01:15:43uh their grievance is particularly focused on european powers britain france and and the eu
01:15:51yeah
01:15:54thank you so much alex for being with us today always a pleasure nema thank you for having me
01:15:59and warm greetings to everyone out there yeah see you soon take care
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