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The White House hits pause on tariffs… but behind the scenes? Chaos reigns. 😵‍💫 Economic pressure, global instability, and internal fractures are multiplying. The situation is unraveling fast — and the consequences are global. 🌍⚠️

In this episode, The Duran dives into the real story behind the headlines. Who benefits from the tariff pause? What’s really going on inside Washington? And how does this ripple through the geopolitical chessboard? ♟️

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00:00All right, Alexander, let's talk about Trump's announcement on Truth Social, where he said
00:08that he is canceling the reciprocal tariffs.
00:14He's going to keep the 10% tariffs, from what I understand.
00:18It's going to be a 90-day pause on the reciprocal tariffs for all the countries that did not
00:26retaliate.
00:27The countries that did retaliate, well, they're going to keep the sanctions, and he's talking
00:32about China.
00:34And he said in his Truth Social post that it was a lack of respect.
00:40They did not respect, I believe he used those words, they did not respect the United States
00:45with a retaliation, so those sanctions are going to, those tariffs are going to stay before
00:52the announcements, China retaliated with 84%, and then Trump retaliated back with 124%.
01:02By the way, the European Union, they had already voted for their tariff retaliation.
01:08That's done.
01:10Now that everything's going to get rolled back to the 10% for everybody except China, I guess
01:16all of the countries that had their meetings and thought about what to do with the tariffs.
01:23Should we retaliate?
01:24Should we send a delegation to the United States?
01:27Should we talk to the Trump administration?
01:30Should we not do anything?
01:30I guess all of the things that happened over the past couple of weeks, just forget about
01:35it.
01:36Forget about it.
01:37Forget about it all.
01:39This was all a ruse.
01:43This was a game to see who would retaliate against the United States.
01:49And actually, this is what the White House spokeswoman Leavitt, as well as Besant and other Trump
01:57officials said, this was all about seeing which countries would retaliate against the United
02:03States and who would not retaliate against the United States.
02:07And they smoked out China.
02:10China was the country that retaliated.
02:13So this was, I don't know, 3000D chess from Trump, right?
02:21And just to wrap it up, and then you can comment on everything that happened.
02:25And Trump posted on Truth Social, before he posted about the 90-day pause, he posted on
02:31Truth Social that it's a good time to buy, a good time to buy stocks and all these things.
02:37So there was a huge surge in the markets when this announcement was made.
02:44So I'm speechless.
02:48I'm speechless about everything that happened yesterday.
02:51Obviously, it's pretty ridiculous and dangerous, I think, for the United States.
03:03Very dangerous because you can't put any trust in what's happening in the U.S.
03:12and there's no stability.
03:14How are countries going to look at the United States after this?
03:20How are businesses going to plan, medium or long-term?
03:27Trump's going to wake up in the morning one day and announce tariffs again?
03:30I don't know.
03:30If I'm a business, what do I do?
03:31If I'm investing in the United States, well, how do I operate?
03:35How do I plan going forward?
03:36Anyway, your thoughts on everything that happened?
03:38I have a different view of things, but my view of it was that it was a walk back, a defeat,
03:46and he could have explained things better.
03:51And my next questions are going to be about why he did it,
03:55because I think the bonds, I think, played a big issue there.
04:01And I think pressure from Musk and other oligarchs, let's say Wall Street and tech oligarchs,
04:07also played a big part in this walk back.
04:11Well, absolutely.
04:12Can I just say, I mean, I not only agree, I think we have witnessed utterly chaotic
04:17and disorganized policymaking, chaotic on Trump's part.
04:23And I'm afraid it all reflects very, very badly on his advisers.
04:29Now, there was, I think, two things that really spook people about this.
04:34Firstly, there was an article that Peter Navarro, who is supposed to be the person who's, you know,
04:39the mastermind, the actual person who's putting these things into place,
04:44wrote for the Financial Times, which basically took the hardest possible line,
04:53said everything is fixed in stone, we're not going to shift at all.
04:57And that was already bad enough.
04:59But I think the one thing that shocked the world, and indeed the markets,
05:06was an utterly extraordinary article or statement,
05:12which was published on the White House's own website by Stephen Moran,
05:17which actually said, you know, the United States is bearing this colossal burden
05:24of keeping its armies around the world and keeping its fleets around the world
05:29and securing the peace and must, and is also bearing the burden
05:36of having the world's reserve currency.
05:39And what the United States therefore requires is everybody to pay into this system,
05:47which supposedly the world benefits from.
05:51And there was an extraordinary paragraph which said that people needed to,
05:55you know, countries might even consider just writing checks to the U.S. Treasury Department.
06:04Now, I mean, that went down incredibly badly.
06:07I mean, I know it did.
06:09I mean, that really infuriated people.
06:11I mean, it was basically implied that everybody around the world needed to stop paying now,
06:17actually paying money, transferring money to the United States
06:21in order to sustain U.S. hegemony.
06:24So that went down incredibly badly.
06:27The other thing that went down incredibly badly was this decision by the administration
06:35to start imposing increasing tariffs on China.
06:41So the Chinese retaliated when the United States imposed its tariffs by slapping on a 34% tariff.
06:48And then the administration went ahead and put on a 50% tariff on top of the 54% tariffs that he'd already put on China.
07:00So there we got 100, and I think ultimately it came to 114% tariffs on China,
07:07which that looked, that gave every impression that we were now in an economic war
07:13between the United States and China.
07:16And then, of course, we've had further responses from China as a result,
07:23and tariffs are going still higher.
07:26And now we had this announcement of 124% tariffs, which I'm going to come back to.
07:32But the point about retaliatory tariffs of that kind is that we no longer have a tariff system,
07:40a policy of protectionism and tariffs.
07:44It's now looking like an economic war against China.
07:47And this was all followed up by incredible rhetoric from the White House about how the United States was out to isolate China economically.
07:59Well, the cumulative effect of all of this is that it spooked the markets,
08:05and it was starting to affect the bond markets.
08:10And we were beginning to get a sell-off of treasuries.
08:15And I was getting all sorts of people saying it's China selling treasuries.
08:19And it turned out that it wasn't.
08:22It was actually normal investors who were losing faith in the economic management of the United States.
08:30So I think that caused the president to back down.
08:32Now, you should never have gone down this route of reciprocal tariffs in the first place.
08:39When the United States practiced protectionism before, in the late 19th century, in the early 20th century,
08:49people who Trump has elevated as heroes, people like William McKinley,
08:54were strongly opposed to reciprocal tariffs.
08:58They said reciprocal tariffs is not the way that you pursue protectionism.
09:03You create tariffs in order to protect American industries.
09:10You do not use tariffs as a mechanism for economic war.
09:15He completely disregarded that.
09:17He just went ahead and went forward with his reciprocal tariffs idea.
09:22He's now walked all that back in the most humiliating and chaotic way.
09:27He's created exactly those doubts about the predictable decision-making in the United States that you spoke about.
09:38So now there's great uncertainty.
09:40People are not confident any longer about whether they should keep their money in the United States in the way that they did,
09:48whether they should continue to buy treasuries.
09:50He's created divisions within his own movement.
09:55So now there's an open split between himself, and it is himself ultimately, and Elon Musk and Doge,
10:03who runs Doge and all of those things.
10:06And he's had to walk it back.
10:09Now, he could have simply gone ahead, announced the blanket 10% tariff, which is still in place, by the way.
10:18The higher tariffs on motor vehicles and other things, which are all still in place,
10:26that would have been protectionism as practiced in the United States in the 19th century and early 20th century.
10:34I'm not saying whether that's a good thing or a bad thing, but it is a coherent and sustainable policy.
10:42He decided instead to go down this route of reciprocal tariffs.
10:47He's had to pull back from that, but he's still locked, as we speak, into an unwinnable economic war with China.
10:56And he's going to have to do something about these tariffs.
10:59He cannot allow this situation with the tariffs with China to remain in place indefinitely,
11:08because if they do, with Chinese exports to the United States now essentially stopped,
11:17we are going to see in a few weeks' time higher prices in American shops.
11:22There is going to be a disappearance of many of the goods that the United States imports from China.
11:28It's going to start having a trickle-down effect through supply lines.
11:33He wants the Chinese to move first.
11:36I doubt very much that they will.
11:38They feel that they have the whip hand over him.
11:41The fact that he's brought down, he's cancelled all his other reciprocal tariffs,
11:47they're going to see that as a sign of weakness.
11:52So he can't pick up the telephone and call the Chinese himself.
11:57And I understand why that would be politically very difficult to do.
12:04He's got to find a third party, Singapore maybe, I don't know,
12:08someone who can actually start to broker a compromise and to move forward with the process,
12:15whereby these impossible tariffs that he's imposed against China
12:19are finally brought down and we return to some type of normalcy.
12:25I mean, maybe 10% tariffs on China, maybe 20% tariffs on China,
12:31but not 124% tariffs on China.
12:35That is disastrous, ultimately, for the United States itself.
12:40You can argue that the Chinese are running an unsustainable trade surplus with the United States.
12:48You can criticise the Chinese for their economic practices as much as you like.
12:54But this kind of shock therapy is not going to cure the patient.
13:00It risks killing the patient, which is the US economy,
13:04because for the moment, the United States needs at least some of those Chinese goods.
13:13Just saying.
13:14Now, can I also say something else very quickly,
13:17which is that Trump is telling everybody that, you know,
13:21he's lifting all of these reciprocal tariffs because all of these different countries
13:26have come forward and they said that they want to do deals.
13:30Which countries exactly?
13:32I know he's had conversations with South Korea and Japan.
13:37Vietnam contacted him or contacted his administration.
13:44It had the door slammed in its face.
13:48So there's no actual sign of movement there.
13:51The Europeans, far from talking to the United States,
13:56were preparing to impose retaliatory tariffs of their own.
14:03Netanyahu came to Washington to try to do something about the 17% tariffs imposed upon him,
14:11upon Israel.
14:12But it looked for a time as if the United States was not actually willing to shift on the tariffs
14:21and to do post against Israel.
14:23So I have to say this.
14:25He's talking about all of these countries anxious to do deals with the United States
14:29and queuing up 70 countries or 78 countries or whatever it was,
14:34queuing up to negotiate reductions in tariffs.
14:37I've not really seen any proof that that is actually true other than the fact that he's saying it.
14:45So and I, you know, I don't see that.
14:49And I'm sure that across the markets, people are saying that to each other.
14:54So one way or the other, he's lost face and he's weakened his position.
15:00Now, again, to reiterate, if he wants to move towards a system of protectionism,
15:07he can't, he could have done that.
15:10But this idea of reciprocal tariffs, punitive tariffs, which he was talking about,
15:20was an incredibly bad idea and one which violated the orthodoxies of US protectionism
15:29as they used to be practiced in that very same 19th and early 20th century heyday of protectionism
15:40and tariffs, which he is setting out as his precedent and his example.
15:47I think it's clear that the Trump administration was looking for a couple of things out of this
15:55Liberation Day tariff war policy.
15:59I listened to Trump's statement very closely.
16:01I listened to Levitt and Bessett as well as they were talking and I read all their posts on X.
16:06It seems to me that what they wanted was – at first, they wanted money from countries into the US.
16:16They wanted $350 billion from the European Union because they considered it back pay
16:20for all the years that the EU was ripping them off.
16:23And they wanted countries not to negotiate some sort of a tariff deal, a number.
16:29You put 5%, I'll put 5%.
16:31It's equal.
16:32We're all good, right?
16:33But that wasn't what they were looking for.
16:35I'm simplifying things, but that wasn't what they were looking for.
16:38They were looking for here's a million and let's now talk about the percentages on tariffs.
16:45But here's some upfront money right away for everything you've done for us as the United States
16:51and for the way we ripped you off in the past.
16:54So I think that was the first thing that they were looking for.
16:56That's why Trump is always talking about – now you listen to his statements.
16:59He's constantly saying we're making $2 billion a day.
17:01We're making $2 billion a day.
17:02He wants to show that money – that he's had a money inflow.
17:06That's the first thing that they were looking for and that they are looking for.
17:11The second thing that happened is that Musk – and this was reported by the Washington
17:19Post as well as other tech and Wall Street oligarchs – they pushed back.
17:26They pushed back on Trump.
17:28And, you know, Musk obviously is very close to the White House.
17:33But you also had other Wall Street and tech oligarchs.
17:36You had J.B. Diamond and all kinds of other people who are close to Trump or the Trump
17:42administration, very powerful people in the United States who didn't like what they were
17:46seeing.
17:47So that's another thing that happened.
17:48And the third thing that happened is the bonds.
17:52Yes.
17:53This was a theory that was floated out about a week ago as to one of the reasons why Trump
17:58is doing these tariffs in the way that he was doing them.
18:04And it was the fact that the bond yields – they were thinking that the yields were going to
18:11go down.
18:12They had about $7 trillion that they were going to – that was rolling over that they were
18:16going to refinance.
18:17And they were going to save a ton of money if those percentages went down.
18:22But as you explained, they didn't go down.
18:25They went up.
18:26And that was a big problem.
18:28So I think those three things combined forced Trump to pull back.
18:34And, of course, you had the fact that China was not backing down at all.
18:38No.
18:38That's another factor.
18:40Absolutely.
18:41Now, on the last – again, I have to say this.
18:45These people don't understand China very well.
18:49Now, I've been saying on program after program, we've been saying this on the Duran as well.
18:55China does not back down.
18:58Anybody who follows the way Chinese policy has evolved basically since 1949, when the
19:08CPC became the government of China, is that they don't back down.
19:15The first law of diplomacy – I often say this.
19:18The first law of war.
19:19Don't march on Moscow.
19:21The second, the first law of diplomacy, don't bluff China because your bluff is always going
19:30to be called.
19:31I think here again, Trump made a fundamental mistake.
19:36He thought that China needed to trade with the United States and that if he imposed punitive
19:43tariffs on them, they would call him and they would try and negotiate with him.
19:48And in fact, if you look at his comments on True Social, you can see that he's clearly
19:54holding out for a deal with China.
19:57He wants to do a deal with China.
19:59And he's frankly baffled and I think perhaps even shocked that when he started to impose
20:07his tariffs on China, instead of the Chinese doing what he expected, which is calling him
20:14and asking for some way to get these tariffs brought down, the Chinese responded by raising
20:25counter tariffs of their own.
20:27And these tariffs that the Chinese are imposing on the United States are going to hurt the
20:33United States.
20:34I mean, the tariffs that the United States is imposing on China will hurt China, but they
20:42will also hurt the United States.
20:44But the tariffs China is imposing on the United States will hurt the United States.
20:49China is a major export destination for American goods, oil, especially agricultural goods, also
20:57soybeans, all of that kind of thing.
21:00The Chinese buy a lot of those things.
21:03So he can't just walk away from what he can't just throw himself into an economic war with China,
21:14which he doesn't seem to have planned for or thought through properly in advance.
21:19So I agree with you.
21:20He didn't expect the tech people, Musk and the others, to break ranks with him.
21:29He didn't expect the roof.
21:32He didn't.
21:33He did expect that there would be payments made to the United States.
21:37And again, I come back to that bizarre article by Moran, which appeared on the White House
21:44website, which needs to be taken down, by the way, immediately.
21:49I mean, it is so ugly in its tone and approach and so threatening, you know, basically demanding
21:59protection money from across the world, because that's how it comes across.
22:04They didn't get the money that they were expecting.
22:09And of course, the bond yield thing turned into a complete disaster.
22:12Instead of money flowing into the United States, instead of people queuing up to open factories
22:17in the United States, on the contrary, money was starting to flow out of the United States
22:26in the form of higher yields, treasury yields.
22:30And with indications that we were on the brink of a major sell-off in U.S. treasuries.
22:37It was completely mismanaged.
22:41And the messaging was terrible.
22:43Yeah, the messaging was terrible.
22:46He's blaming it now on China.
22:49Yeah.
22:49You know, and he's saying that this was all some sort of a game to show that China is the
22:54bad actor in all of this.
22:56That's nonsense.
22:57There are people who are believing it.
22:58There are a lot of people who are saying, wow, this was 5D chess, and Trump has just isolated
23:04China, and he's exposed China.
23:06It's all nonsense.
23:09China is providing cover for a very failed implementation of what Trump identified as a
23:21problem with the United States.
23:22The United States does have economic problems, huge economic problems, which need to be addressed.
23:28Absolutely.
23:29He has ended globalism.
23:32It is the end of globalization.
23:34That's a positive.
23:35He did that with these policies that he's trying to put together by recognizing that globalism is not working.
23:43He has managed to end globalization, but the fact is that there's no strategy.
23:53He knows where he wants to go.
23:55Yes.
23:56He has an idea of where he wants to go, but he doesn't have the right people or the right strategy
24:01in place, and he doesn't have the correct timelines either as to how to get there.
24:08Now, I want to get to that in a bit, but you're right.
24:12The messaging was terrible.
24:14I feel that Trump could have yesterday.
24:16He could have come out.
24:17He said that people were getting yippee when they were looking at the stock market.
24:20Come on, man.
24:22He could have come out and said, look, I want to deal with China.
24:26I'm going to try to contact Xi Jinping directly.
24:29We're going to try to get a deal.
24:30We're going to try to calm things down.
24:31We'll fall back on a blanket tariff, and we'll remove the reciprocal tariff so that we can
24:37calm things down and just leave it there.
24:39You don't have to scapegoat China.
24:40You don't have to come out and say people are getting yippee, all these things, or we're
24:43trying to find out who's with us and who's against us.
24:46Nonsense.
24:47You're gaslighting the people.
24:50It's nonsense.
24:51He could have come out and been more straightforward, and I think people would have been okay,
24:56understood.
24:58He could have done that.
24:59The messaging was way off.
25:01Anyway, I just want to get to your comments on that, and then I want to get to the fact
25:05that there is no strategy.
25:08There's a destination that he wants to go.
25:09There's problems that he has recognized, but he doesn't know how to get there, and it's
25:14not only about tariffs, Alexander.
25:16It's not about tariffs.
25:18It's the same story with Ukraine and the ceasefire.
25:22It's the same story with Iran.
25:27I've been saying this on video after video.
25:29Why are you bombing the Houthis?
25:33Why?
25:35I don't know.
25:36You're just bombing them, but there's been no Oval Office statement.
25:39There's been no speech.
25:40There's been no explanation to the American people.
25:42Are we at war with them?
25:43Are we not at war?
25:44What's the goal of all of this?
25:46He says Iran every now and then.
25:48He says Iran does it.
25:49I don't want Iran to get nukes.
25:51There's no policy.
25:54There's no strategy.
25:54There's no understanding.
25:56The same with the ceasefire in Ukraine.
25:58The same with TikTok.
26:00The same with TikTok.
26:02TikTok can't be Chinese.
26:04It has to be American.
26:05So the time runs out, the first 75 days, and he rolls it over to another 75 days because
26:11we have buyers here and everyone wants to buy TikTok.
26:13He says everyone wants to buy it and we're going to come up with a deal.
26:16And then he says we need another 75 days.
26:17It's the same story over and over again.
26:20And there just seems to me, there seems to be no real understanding of these problems,
26:28a deep understanding of these problems.
26:30There's no understanding in who the adversaries are, who the players are, and there's no strategy
26:35in place as to how to get to where he needs to go.
26:40Absolutely.
26:40Can I just say about this?
26:42I mean, we have this expression in Britain, if you are in a hole, stop digging.
26:46And his messaging yesterday actually is a case of somebody digging, continuing to dig deeper
26:55the hole in which he's in.
26:58Everything that he said yesterday about, you know, being offensive about people in the stock
27:04markets and the financial markets being yippee and all that, that is not going to play well
27:11with some of those people now.
27:13And it doesn't address the underlying issues and is basically deflection of responsibility
27:19for himself.
27:20That's first.
27:21The second is that he's got to get away from this thing that it's the Chinese who must approach
27:33him first.
27:34He started this process.
27:37What he should have done was when he started imposing tariffs on China, he should have called
27:45China, not the other way around.
27:50That's the way that it's done.
27:53He still approaches everything like, you know, the New York real estate dealer who knows, does
28:00the big deals, does them fast, hits everybody from every side.
28:05You cannot play that game with China, just as you cannot play it with the Russians and you
28:13cannot play it with Iran.
28:15And he's got to get himself proper advisors, just as he's made a huge mistake relying on
28:23the Walsh Kellogg people in terms of his dealings with the Russians.
28:28And we see where that's going.
28:31It's going nowhere.
28:32He's now got himself people like Navarro and Moran, who may academically be enormously clever
28:39intellectuals, but they don't have that grasp and feeling for China.
28:45And it is China ultimately that he's clearly worried about or about general trade policies
28:50that he needs to have.
28:51He's got to start listening to more people, making decision making in a more structured
28:57way.
28:58And you're absolutely right.
28:59It's the same about Iran.
29:00It's the same about the Houthis.
29:02It's absolutely the same about TikTok.
29:05And he's got to stop also this incessant practice that he has of going out and telling
29:11everybody the deal is around the corner.
29:14We're going to get the deal next week.
29:15We're going to get the deal in a few days.
29:17We're almost there.
29:18We're almost there with TikTok.
29:19We're almost there with a ceasefire in Ukraine.
29:23China wants to speak and wants to do the deal, and they'll be doing it tomorrow, next day
29:28in a week's time.
29:30He's got to stop behaving like an old man in a hurry, as we say it in Britain.
29:37He's got to understand that these things do take time.
29:41People, other people, other countries, Russia, China, Iran, buyers of TikTok,
29:48the financial markets, they have their own clock, and they may not be quite as much in a hurry
29:55to see all of these things done, as he is.
29:59Turning the entire economic policy and the whole economic fortunes of the United States
30:07is not something that can be done in a week or 10 days or three months' time.
30:13It is a work of four years.
30:17It has to be done systematically, methodically, in a planned, structured way.
30:24Otherwise, it can't be done at all.
30:26You want to start fixing things?
30:28Start cutting down on expenses.
30:31Get out of Project Ukraine.
30:34He needs to address the problems one by one and finish the problems.
30:41Get to the solution.
30:43He's now opened up four or five different areas where he's stuck.
30:48Yes.
30:48He's fighting on four or five fronts now.
30:52Yes.
30:53Yes.
30:54Get to Ukraine.
30:56That one can be solved.
30:58Get out of Ukraine.
30:59Stop the money.
31:00Stop the weapons.
31:01Talk to Russia.
31:03Get some business going with Russia.
31:05Yes.
31:06Yes.
31:06Solved.
31:07Address NATO.
31:09Address the money going to the EU.
31:10There's a region that you have complete leverage.
31:14You don't have leverage over China.
31:15No.
31:15But you have all the leverage over Europe.
31:18That's obvious.
31:18So start addressing the expenses there, the money that's pouring into Europe.
31:23You addressed USAID.
31:25Let's look at the military bases.
31:27Let's look at NATO.
31:28Let's look at all these things.
31:29How much money are we losing there?
31:30He said he was going to cut defense spending by 8% just last week.
31:35Then he announces $1 trillion Pentagon budget.
31:38Well, which one is it?
31:39Yes.
31:40Which one is it?
31:41Are you trying to save money or are you trying to spend money?
31:44I mean, he's got these four or five different problems now that he's stuck in.
31:49And he's not solving any of them.
31:51No.
31:52He's just saying we're close.
31:53We're close to a solution.
31:54All of them.
31:55Every single one of them.
31:55We're close to a solution.
31:56He's making threats.
31:57And I'm going to hit you, Iran.
31:59Now you're going to start a war with Iran as well?
32:01Yeah.
32:02I'm going to hit you, Iran.
32:03I'm going to hit you, Putin.
32:04I don't like the way you're behaving, Putin.
32:05No TikTok.
32:07No China TikTok in the US.
32:09And China's showing a lack of respect.
32:11I mean, this is not how you solve.
32:14Trump knows this.
32:15No.
32:15I don't know about the people around him.
32:17I don't know what's going on with his administration.
32:20But he's not on the right path.
32:22No.
32:23Not at all.
32:23His presidency is unraveling.
32:25Yes.
32:26He better start solving the problems one by one.
32:30Yes.
32:31That's how I look at it.
32:32I could be wrong about all of this.
32:34But the way I see it is that he's in a mess on many different fronts and in many areas.
32:39And he needs to take a step back, take a breath with his team, with his best advisors.
32:44I don't know who they are, Whitcoff, Musk.
32:45I don't know.
32:46And they need to start solving the problems one by one.
32:49And my suggestion has always been Ukraine.
32:53You got to start with Ukraine.
32:55Yes.
32:56That one can be solved.
32:57It can be solved.
32:59He may not like it.
32:59The neocons may not like it.
33:01The deep state may not like it.
33:03But it can be solved.
33:04Exactly.
33:05It can be solved very easily.
33:07Not the conflict in Ukraine.
33:10That is enormously complicated.
33:12That is a very, very complicated conflict in Ukraine.
33:14The US involvement.
33:15But the US involvement in Ukraine can be ended immediately.
33:20All it requires is a decision.
33:23It's a simple thing.
33:25You stop sending arms.
33:26You stop sending money to Ukraine.
33:28You tell the Ukrainians, look, we've done what we can.
33:31You tell the Europeans, look, we've done what we can.
33:35If you want to carry on with this, carry on with this.
33:38We were advising this.
33:40We were talking about this way back in the summer, long before he was elected.
33:46And that would have been simple and it would have been clean and it would have been very easy to explain to the American people who are not solved in their critical mass on Project Ukraine.
33:58It was never a particularly popular policy.
34:03Perfectly easy to do.
34:05I completely agree.
34:07That is where you start.
34:09And then, of course, obviously, some people would have been unhappy.
34:14But as we've seen over the last couple of months, those people do not have popular traction in the United States.
34:23And they are increasingly not having much traction in Europe either.
34:28So that would have been an easy one.
34:30It would have been an easy thing to sort out and to move forward.
34:33The second is a proper conversation with the American people about where the real threats to the United States are coming from.
34:41They're not coming from they're not coming from the Russians.
34:44Obviously, that is ludicrous.
34:47They're coming from the enormous structural problems within the American economy, the massive overspending, the budget deficit, which is out of control.
34:55That's one thing, by the way, the Doge has exposed is the extent to which all accounting practices within the federal government have completely broken down so that we don't even know exactly what is being spent on what anymore.
35:09So bring the budget under control.
35:14And that has to extend.
35:17And this is a difficult thing for many people, for Lindsey Graham and all that crowd to understand.
35:22It has to extend to significant cuts in defense spending, which Trump has said that he wants to do.
35:32So do it.
35:33But obviously, if you're going to cut defense spending, you need to come to understandings with the others.
35:39So obviously, you normalize relations with the Russians.
35:42That, again, is easy.
35:44And then you have to have some kind of a dialogue with the Chinese.
35:48And with the Chinese, it is extremely difficult because, as you rightly say, the Chinese, you have only very limited leverage over.
35:55Though you have enormous leverage over the Europeans, you can tell the Europeans, but from now on, you can look after yourselves.
36:03We don't like some of your economic practices.
36:06We need to rebalance our things altogether.
36:10And by all means, as part of all of that, if you believe the tariffs are part of the answer and you want to end globalization,
36:19and ending globalization, by the way, I think is a good thing, about tariffs, as I said, I am neutral.
36:28I don't know the whole, I haven't worked it out at all exactly.
36:31But about tariffs, if you think that as part of budget cutting, bringing the financial system in the United States back into order,
36:40doing all of those kinds of things, if you think that some tariffs are necessary, do them.
36:45By all means, 10% tariffs, but don't go for reciprocal tariffs, which have thrown everything into chaos in the way that they have done.
36:55And consult widely, talk to people who understand these things, expand your pool of advisors.
37:02There are lots of people in the United States who are prepared to help you have proper structured meetings, do those sort of things.
37:11I don't understand why Trump, who is far from a stupid man, by the way, doesn't do these things,
37:18why he feels all the time that he needs to act in this impulsive way.
37:25I am going to suggest, and people will go completely against me when I say this,
37:31it's not self-confidence or egoism or narcissism that makes Trump behave in this fashion.
37:39On the contrary, it's sometimes insecurity that makes him feel that in order to assert himself,
37:46he has to take the strongest, most immediate decision, the toughest steps in order to somehow prove to himself
37:56and to the rest of the world that he's as strong and that the United States is as strong as he wants them to think it is.
38:05One point I think we can both make is that most of the world, until now,
38:15until the events of the last couple of days, has wanted him to succeed.
38:20This is something he hasn't understood.
38:23Most of the world hated the Biden neocon policies.
38:28I say most of the world.
38:2990% of the world hated it.
38:32Most of the world understood that the United States has problems.
38:36They want the United States to start behaving like a more normal country again.
38:43Obviously, countries around the world, Russia, China, South Korea, North Korea, anybody, Vietnam,
38:50they have their interests that they want to defend.
38:53But if you start approaching them in that kind of way, they will do what they can to help you.
39:03And there are plenty of people in the United States of the knowledge and the expertise to help you also.
39:10Yeah, I agree with that.
39:13The only countries that are sad to have seen Biden gone is the EU countries.
39:18Most of them, Ursula, Kayakalas and Adelina, they're upset.
39:23Joseph Burrell, they were sad to see Biden go.
39:26Every other country in the world was so happy when the Biden neocons left.
39:34There was a sense of buoyancy.
39:36I remember this at the first weeks after Trump's election.
39:40There was a sense of relief around the world.
39:43Far from there being horror, the fact that it was Trump again, there was a sense that this is a man we've liked, we've worked with.
39:53And instead, what he's done has dissipated all that goodwill.
39:57And that awful thing by Moran, which went up on the website, as I said, it really does make it look like the United States wants to run some kind of global protection racket, which is absolutely the wrong image that he wants to project.
40:14I think it is repairable.
40:16There is still time.
40:18But he's got to start being more straightforward with the American people.
40:22He's got to start consulting more widely.
40:25He's got to start talking more with world leaders.
40:29He should be talk.
40:30He should indeed be working towards getting those summit meetings with the Russians, with Putin.
40:38And indeed, Putin can help with China.
40:40He can help with Singapore.
40:41You mentioned Singapore, but Russia.
40:44Russia, more so.
40:46Absolutely.
40:46You can get all of that together.
40:48And as I said, Russia is easy.
40:53It's actually easy.
40:55It's not difficult at all.
40:58The Russians, more than anyone else, are relieved to see Biden go.
41:04Biden was waging a war against them, for God's sake.
41:07All you have to do is end that war and you've got the goodwill there.
41:13But don't start.
41:15Wasting everybody's time with talks of ceasefires, which they'd already rejected.
41:21Russia can help with the relations with China.
41:25Russia can help with Iran.
41:27Absolutely.
41:28Absolutely.
41:28With the whole nuclear issue, which you had with the JCPOA.
41:32Yes, we know.
41:32We know.
41:33He had it with the JCPOA and Trump dismantled it in his first term.
41:37Everyone understands that.
41:38It is what it is.
41:38But now he's saying, I don't want Iran to get nukes.
41:41Russia can absolutely help with that as well.
41:44And when it comes to Ukraine, as you said, he could dismantle this German command center that they have going on.
41:54Dismantle it.
41:55End the U.S.'s involvement in this war against Russia.
42:01And there you go.
42:01And start doing business with Russia on top of it.
42:05On top of that.
42:05You start doing business with them.
42:07Absolutely.
42:07And get rid of this whole peace through strength thing that they keep on going on and on about.
42:12I've said this now for about two months.
42:14Yes.
42:14I cannot stand the whole peace through strength.
42:17I can't stand it.
42:18But it's getting in their heads.
42:20And everyone's thinking, yeah, peace through strength, peace through strength.
42:23Yes.
42:24And they're messing up.
42:25Yeah.
42:26Exactly.
42:26They're messing up on everything.
42:29Absolutely.
42:30Completely agree.
42:31I completely agree.
42:32And as I said, I mean, start listening to the right people.
42:37People who know China, who know Russia, who are experiencing negotiations.
42:46I've been reading reports of the Russians that when the Americans turned up in Riyadh,
42:52at both of those two meetings that took place in Riyadh, the Americans, the Russians found the Americans completely unprepared.
43:01You've got the terms, Alex.
43:02You've got the terms.
43:03June 2024, the terms are right there.
43:06I don't, I don't, what does it matter to the United States who governs Slavyansk?
43:14I mean, you know, that, those are the questions.
43:18I mean, people need to, need, in the, in the United States need to address.
43:22You start getting yourself worked up about these things.
43:26You will never finish.
43:27Start building high-speed trains, start building roads, start getting healthcare, start getting infrastructure, start.
43:35What do you care about Slavyansk?
43:38Exactly.
43:41Anyway, any final thoughts and we'll wrap the video up.
43:44Well, well, I mean, he's been pushed back.
43:48I think for the moment there are, there is still residual goodwill towards him, I mean, within the United States itself.
43:54I think, you know, there's the core part of the MAGA movement that is still with him.
44:00You know, the industrial workers, the coal miners who have been, who have been, you know, who he's been meeting.
44:09But he now doesn't really have very much time.
44:12He's got to find some way to bring these tariffs that he's imposed, that he's recklessly imposed on China down and get back to a proper trading system with China and a proper negotiation on how to rebalance trade and to move forward with the divorce with China, the structured, organized divorce with China that he seemed to be talking about in his first term.
44:37The Chinese, by the way, have made an interesting point.
44:40They said that the current account surplus that China runs used to be almost 10% of China's GDP in the early 2000s.
44:51It's now fallen to just over 2% of their GDP.
44:56So this isn't such a big existential issue for China anymore.
45:01They will probably be willing to negotiate because they're moving, they're gradually changing the structure of their own economy themselves.
45:12So this is a difficult negotiation, but not an impossible one if handled intelligently.
45:20And if you look at the Chinese statements, they issued a very interesting white paper the other day.
45:26They are still saying that they are prepared to negotiate these outcomes with the United States, but they will not be pushed around and they will not be backed down.
45:36And they won't come crawling to Donald Trump and doing the kind of things that he wants them to do or thinks that he would want them to do because of all of this peace through strength idiocy.
45:48He's got to put that aside and understand that the Chinese are strong.
45:52They're not peasants, as people talk to them about.
45:56They're sophisticated, intelligent players, just as the Russians are.
46:01And if he pursues a genuine policy of peace, then he will achieve, then he will get there and he can start to address and will be able to address the many deep problems of the United States, which are real and getting worse, but which, again, to repeat, and I've said this many times, are not insolvable.
46:25Yeah.
46:28All right.
46:29We will end it there.
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