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00:00I'm going to put it on one by one like this.
00:05I'm going to put it on from the top in order.
00:11This is also pretty fast.
00:21If you think the paper is overdoing it,
00:24pull it up a little and pull it up diagonally.
00:27If you pull it up, the bamboo will stick on its own.
00:30I'm going to put it on again.
00:34I'll fix it at the end.
00:37When it dries, I'll put it on again with wood.
00:42It's beautiful.
00:44It's like this.
00:47Let's do this one more time.
00:50Are you going to do it?
00:51Really?
00:53I wasn't going to do it at all.
00:56You didn't look at it at all?
00:58No, I was looking at it.
01:00I was looking at it.
01:04This time, we visited the Kojima Shoten in Kyoto City, Kyoto Prefecture.
01:10It is a shrine with a history of more than 200 years.
01:15It is a shrine with a history of more than 200 years.
01:19It is a shrine with a history of more than 200 years.
01:24The oldest theater in Japan,
01:26The oldest theater in Japan,
01:29The oldest theater in Kyoto,
01:37There is a process called kamibari,
01:40There is a process called kamibari,
01:43I decided to try it specially.
01:47I decided to try it specially.
01:52It sticks a little, but sometimes it breaks when it sticks to the paper.
01:57You have to be careful about this part.
02:01You have to be careful about this part.
02:07You have to be careful about this part.
02:14Is it right?
02:15It's right.
02:18You've been to a lot of places, haven't you?
02:21Yes, I have.
02:22You've been to a lot of places, haven't you?
02:25Yes, I have.
02:26This one has a smooth and rough surface.
02:31The smooth one is the front.
02:33The rough one is the side where it sticks to the bamboo.
02:35The rough one is the side where it sticks to the bamboo.
02:37Of course, it is very important to make sure that there are no wrinkles and gaps.
02:40Of course, it is very important to make sure that there are no wrinkles and gaps.
02:46Is this okay?
02:47Yes, it's okay.
02:48One by one.
02:49One by one.
02:50One by one.
02:51One by one.
02:52Next, touch the bamboo so that the belly of the bamboo comes out.
02:59Oh, I see.
03:00Oh, I see.
03:01Yes.
03:02You can do it with your thumb, but you can do it with this hand.
03:06With this hand?
03:07Yes.
03:08Oh, yes.
03:09It's difficult.
03:10It's difficult.
03:11This part.
03:12This part.
03:13Oh, I see.
03:14This part.
03:15This part.
03:16I see.
03:19I see.
03:20I see.
03:21You can do it with your thumb.
03:24I can do it with my thumb.
03:25Yes, that's right.
03:26Yes, that's right.
03:27Yes, that's right.
03:28I have to stick this part to the bamboo and move on to the next one.
03:34Yes, that's right.
03:35You can see the glue here.
03:37Yes.
03:38Sometimes, the glue comes out as a shadow.
03:40Oh, that's not good.
03:41Yes.
03:42Yes.
03:44Will it stick well without any wrinkles or gaps?
03:48We'll find out later.
03:53This time, it's a lantern.
03:58How do you make a sturdy and durable lantern?
04:05We asked a shop in Kojima to show us how it's made.
04:10It's really good.
04:13It's really good.
04:14It's really good.
04:15It's really good.
04:17What is the new lantern made by a craftsman who is in his prime?
04:23We also challenged him to put letters in the lantern.
04:26If you fall asleep now, you'll lose money.
04:40We asked a shop in Kojima to show us how it's made by a craftsman who is in his prime.
04:45Your father is in his 9th generation.
04:47That's right.
04:48Ryo is in his 10th generation.
04:51My older brother is in his 10th generation, too.
04:53I see.
04:54My older brother has another workshop.
04:56First of all, can you tell us what a Kyochochin is?
05:01There are two big patterns.
05:03It's called Makibone-shiki and Jibari-shiki.
05:07Are they made of bones?
05:08That's right.
05:09Basically, lanterns are made of a spiral pattern.
05:1590% of lanterns in Japan are like that.
05:17We make 10% of lanterns.
05:19We split the bamboo and put one bamboo on the lantern.
05:23That's our way of making lanterns.
05:27Kyochochin is made of bamboo and put Japanese paper on it.
05:33In order to make lanterns last longer,
05:35it's often used in shrines, flower villas, and temples.
05:47Is there a lot of places that make Kyochochin?
05:52I think there are two or three in Japan.
05:56That's all?
05:57Basically, there are a lot of Makibone-shiki.
05:59Because the bamboo is split,
06:01it's called Hirabone.
06:03Bamboo and Japanese paper have wide adhesion.
06:06It's not round.
06:08That's right.
06:10That's why we put thick Japanese paper on it.
06:12That's one of our strong points.
06:15It's also made of leather, so it's hard to break.
06:19I see.
06:22The bones are attached to the wooden frame of the lantern.
06:25They are tied together carefully with a thread.
06:32This is an important process that determines the strength of Kyochochin.
06:36If it doesn't get wet in the rain,
06:38it will last at least 10 years.
06:44I was wondering if you could do it.
06:47I think it's difficult.
06:50I'm going to do it in person,
06:53but I don't want people to be surprised.
07:01I'm sad, so I always ask people to do it.
07:04I see.
07:05I think it's very difficult to decide how to apply force.
07:09That's right. It's a small thing.
07:13If you don't do it in a tense state,
07:18the thread will move quickly.
07:22So I'll stop it when it's stretched out.
07:25Then I'll screw it.
07:27Then I'll tighten it and stop it.
07:31I see.
07:32It's a series of this.
07:33I see.
07:34I'll stop it here, too.
07:35I see.
07:36I have to do it while the thread is tense.
07:41Then I'll repeat this.
07:43I see.
07:45The balance of each thread is not good.
07:49That's right.
07:50The balance of the force is not good.
07:52You have to match the spacing.
07:54I see.
07:55And you have to do it straight.
07:57If you cut the paper, it will be difficult to cut.
08:00Cut the paper?
08:01You cut the paper after you put the thread on it.
08:04If you don't do it straight, it will be difficult to cut the paper.
08:07I'll do it around here.
08:09Do you want to do it?
08:10I'll do it once.
08:11What should I do?
08:12It depends on how you look at it.
08:15I see.
08:18Like this?
08:20How much force should I apply?
08:25Like this?
08:26That's right.
08:32That's right.
08:33It's difficult to scoop from here.
08:35It's an image of scooping with your thumb.
08:38Oh, no.
08:40If you loosen it once, it will loosen.
08:43I'm glad.
08:44I'm glad that you made a mistake.
08:49I'm grateful as a coach.
08:50Like this?
08:51Yes.
08:52You have to practice at first.
08:54It's bent.
08:57I'm glad I got a good picture.
08:59It's difficult.
09:02You're going to fix it, right?
09:04It's bent.
09:05That's right.
09:06This is completely...
09:08I'll fix it later.
09:11I'll just take a picture.
09:14By the way, I was most worried about this fishing line.
09:19The force was so strong that my fingers couldn't go back.
09:24I see.
09:25While I was doing it casually,
09:29I noticed that my fingers were relaxed and I could do it normally.
09:37I was able to do it faster.
09:39By the way, how long did it take to get there?
09:43My father said it would take 10 years.
09:46I wanted to do everything properly.
09:50I wanted to get married as soon as possible.
09:55I see.
09:58You wanted to get over it as soon as possible.
10:00That's right.
10:01I did everything I was told.
10:08Is there anything good about working as a family?
10:14I need my wife's help.
10:17I see.
10:18She's helping me.
10:22You're his wife, right?
10:23Yes, I'm his wife.
10:25It must be hard for you when you have a fight with your wife.
10:28It happens sometimes.
10:31You don't talk.
10:33That's right.
10:34I don't talk to my wife.
10:36I don't like it.
10:37Does your wife tell you what to do?
10:38Yes.
10:39She tells me what to do.
10:42You know what to do right away.
10:43You know what to do right away.
10:44You know what to do right away.
10:45That's right.
10:46You know what to do right away.
10:47My wife tells me what to do right away.
10:51You're so funny.
10:53I know.
10:55You're getting funnier.
10:58Yes, I'm getting more and more stupid.
11:02I'm stupid.
11:05Kamibari, which I'm trying to make,
11:08is made of wheat starch that has been soaked in water.
11:12I'm going to put a wet cloth on it.
11:18Is this okay?
11:19Yes, it's okay.
11:20One by one.
11:23One by one from the top.
11:25You can do it with your thumb, but I'll do it with this hand.
11:27With this hand?
11:28Yes.
11:29That's right.
11:30It's hard.
11:33This part.
11:34Like this.
11:35Oh, I see.
11:37I see.
11:40I see.
11:41Like this.
11:43Do I have to stick it together?
11:46That's right.
11:47There's a little glue here, right?
11:49Yes.
11:50Sometimes this comes out as a shadow.
11:52I can't do it anymore.
11:53That's right.
11:56This is very difficult.
11:58I'm glad.
12:01You don't say it's easy.
12:03That's right.
12:05I can't do it at all.
12:07I want to keep this part up.
12:10That's right.
12:11I added that earlier.
12:13I see.
12:14I can't do it at all.
12:16The wrinkles will come up.
12:19If you do this, the paper will stick to it.
12:25I see.
12:26After that, you can hold it down with your hand.
12:28It's a little difficult.
12:30The curved part is difficult.
12:35The round part is difficult.
12:39Look at this.
12:40It's messed up.
12:41If you mess it up too much, you'll break it.
12:43That's right.
12:44The paper will wrinkle and the surface will be rough.
12:49It's not easy.
12:52It's difficult.
12:53You're good at this part.
12:54This part is very beautiful.
12:56Really?
12:57I'm very happy.
12:58I'm very happy.
12:59It's amazing.
13:02I'm glad.
13:03It's completely different.
13:04There's a lot of glue in the middle.
13:06It's amazing.
13:07I've been doing this for a long time.
13:10This is difficult.
13:13It's amazing that you can do this so quickly.
13:17Did you do any other work?
13:20I didn't do any other work.
13:21I was told that I didn't have a good sense of drawing.
13:24Who told you that?
13:25My father.
13:27He told me that I didn't have a good sense of drawing.
13:29Your father is doing the drawing now.
13:31That's right.
13:34After that, it's time to put characters on the lantern and do the drawing.
13:40In Kojima Shopping Mall, the ninth generation, Mr. Mamoru, is in charge of it.
13:47Lanterns are uneven.
13:50That's right.
13:51It's not flat.
13:54I trace it and draw it.
14:00You don't draw it all at once, do you?
14:03No.
14:04Sometimes I draw it all at once.
14:07I can't do that unless it's a straight lantern.
14:11If I make a mistake at first, I can't get it back.
14:16That's right.
14:17When I started drawing, my hands were shaking.
14:22Is it difficult to draw irregular patterns?
14:29On the contrary, it's hard to draw beautiful letters.
14:37It's easier to draw broken characters.
14:41Even if you make a mistake?
14:43Yes.
14:44I see.
14:45When I make a mistake, I can adjust it by making it thicker or thinner.
14:53I'm going to do it like this.
14:55Ms. Tominaga, please draw a signature on this lantern.
15:06Can I do that?
15:08It's okay if you make a mistake.
15:10I'll draw it with a brush.
15:15I see.
15:16I'll draw it with a brush.
15:25I'll draw it with the image I have now.
15:27I'll draw it with the image I have now.
15:30I've experienced a lot of things, so I can draw dynamically.
15:41It's good to be brave.
15:44Gen.
15:50What kind of painting is difficult to draw?
15:56In the old days, I used to blur it with a brush.
16:01It's like a picture.
16:04I see.
16:06I thought I'd draw it as if I were rubbing it, but it turned out to be beautiful.
16:11Den.
16:12It's beautiful and good.
16:15It's good.
16:17I can't see it anymore.
16:19I can't see it anymore.
16:23This is the lantern I actually signed.
16:29This is really harder than it looks.
16:32It's bumpy, so I can't paint it straight.
16:36That was really difficult.
16:39When do you think it's fun to do this job?
16:42First of all, when I can see that the person who purchased it is happy.
16:51I feel fulfilled when I can do a very difficult job while thinking that I can do it.
17:00I think it's a good feeling.
17:06Craftsmen who try to weave traditional culture into the future.
17:10Let's take a look at such a new future.
17:14Future Action
17:17Lanterns have changed over time.
17:22I think the way lanterns are used has changed.
17:27Is there a secret to keeping them connected?
17:32Of course, the festival is important, and the way lanterns are used is important.
17:37I want to make something new and important.
17:41There's a really small one here.
17:44I got a lot of them as a gift.
17:48It's really small and cute.
17:51This is a mini lantern called Chibimaru, which is made so that it can be used in a general household.
17:59We made a kit that Chibimaru can make at home.
18:03If you can easily make a lantern, it will be popular among tourists and students studying abroad.
18:12I haven't had many inquiries from individuals.
18:15Lately, more and more people want to hang lanterns in their rooms.
18:22When do you think it's fun to do this job?
18:28I'm happy to see the reaction of the people who bought the lanterns.
18:38It's been about a year since the Noto Peninsula earthquake.
18:41Many traditional cultures are still trying to recover.
18:46We've received a lot of messages of support, so I'd like to introduce some of them.
18:53In the past, I was heartbroken when I saw on the news that traditional crafts were lined up outdoors,
18:59and that it was difficult to exhibit and sell works and products.
19:08I hope that the situation will improve little by little for the recovery,
19:13and I hope that the people of the Noto Peninsula will continue to be involved in traditional culture with a smile.
19:21I've been so shocked by the earthquake and disaster that I can't even put it into words.
19:28It's frustrating and I can't stand it.
19:30I think what we can do is to continue to buy and support traditional goods so that we don't lose our tradition.
19:41I will continue to support you.
19:45Participating in crowdfunding for those who were affected by the Noto Peninsula earthquake,
19:50I am heartbroken when I think about the regret of the artists who were again hit by the earthquake when the kilns were finally repaired.
19:59I've heard that some of them have passed away.
20:05I think it's a tough situation, but I hope they don't give up.
20:10I also hope that I can find something that can support them and help them recover.
20:16In the program, we will continue to introduce the current situation of traditional crafts in the North and the movement towards reconstruction.
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