Shaam-e-Ramazan | Sadaf Abdul Jabbar & Saim Khan | 27th March 2025 | ARY News
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00:00:00In the name of Allah, the most Gracious, the most Merciful, Peace be upon you.
00:00:17Welcome to the evening of Ramadan. I am Sadaf Abdul Jabbar and Saim Khan is with me.
00:00:22You are with us daily from 4pm to 6pm.
00:00:26Inshallah, this journey will continue on Eid and after Eid as well.
00:00:31So, let's say, the weather is changing in Karachi.
00:00:36It is hot in the afternoon and a little cold in the evening.
00:00:39We won't say cold, but it is a little cold.
00:00:41A little cold.
00:00:42So, the weather here changes in 24 hours.
00:00:45So, our health is also getting a little up and down.
00:00:48In the beginning of the program, I said that the weather in Karachi seems a little unfaithful to me.
00:00:52So, you said that it is not unfaithful.
00:00:54You should not say that the weather in Karachi is unfaithful.
00:00:56Now, you tell me, is it unfaithful or not?
00:00:58It is unfaithful in 24 hours.
00:01:00Yes, we don't even know.
00:01:01But at least, there is this consistency that it is going on like this.
00:01:05Yes, if it keeps going on like this, then it is better.
00:01:07During the day, it is a little hot and at night, it is a little cold.
00:01:11But then again, the problem is that the health deteriorates.
00:01:15Now, think, Inshallah, next Ramadan will start a little earlier.
00:01:19This time, it started in March.
00:01:21Inshallah.
00:01:22So, we have to see the cold in other countries.
00:01:24The good, cold weather.
00:01:26Then think, what will be the weather then?
00:01:28Let's start the program properly.
00:01:30The news is sad, from which we are starting.
00:01:34At the place of Kalmat between Pasni and Marda, six people were killed by terrorists.
00:01:42The people were coming from Gwadar to Karachi.
00:01:45And the enemies of the country stopped the cars and checked the identification cards of the passengers.
00:01:50And by killing six passengers, they turned three into Yargamal.
00:01:54Now, the attackers also set fire to two Bowser cars in Kalmat.
00:01:58After the incident, on the Gwadar Coastal Highway, the passengers were banned from traveling at night.
00:02:05So, this is the situation.
00:02:07And updates are coming from there that this incident came there.
00:02:10We will definitely tell you the updates on the three Yargamals there.
00:02:15It is like this.
00:02:16And the Prime Minister of Balochistan, while condemning terrorism in Kalmat, said that
00:02:20it is a cowardly act to remove passengers from the bus and kill them on the basis of identification.
00:02:26It is a heinous act to target innocent citizens and an unforgivable crime.
00:02:32The determination against terrorism cannot be weakened by such actions.
00:02:37The Prime Minister of Balochistan also said that
00:02:39we are equally involved in the grief of the people of Jammu and Kashmir.
00:02:42And a fierce war against terrorists will continue.
00:02:46Terrorists will reach a logical conclusion.
00:02:48Terrorists have undermined the traditions of Balochistan, hospitality and peace of mind.
00:02:54Why are those who call for political objectives on the streets silent?
00:02:59Who are those who are silent on the killing of innocent laborers?
00:03:04So the Prime Minister of Balochistan has condemned this whole incident.
00:03:08And he said that those who are silent, who are they supporting?
00:03:11Yes.
00:03:12Also, let us tell you that the chairman of the People's Party, Bilawal Bhutto,
00:03:15has strongly condemned the incident of firing on passengers in Kalmat.
00:03:19Bilawal says that it is a pity for the lives and losses of precious lives in the terrorist attack.
00:03:25We are equally involved in the grief of the people of Jammu and Kashmir.
00:03:28And I pray for their immediate recovery.
00:03:32Terrorists are the enemies of peace and happiness.
00:03:34Terrorists do not want Balochistan to move forward.
00:03:37So this is the situation.
00:03:39And we have seen the situation of the Prime Minister of Balochistan as well.
00:03:43Shahid Rinn is with us now.
00:03:45He is the translator of the Balochistan government.
00:03:48Shahid, please tell us.
00:03:49What has been known about the injuries so far?
00:03:52How many are injured?
00:03:53And what is the situation?
00:03:57Are you talking about the incident of Gwadar yesterday?
00:03:59Yes, yes, the incident of Gwadar.
00:04:01Yes, but in the incident of Gwadar,
00:04:04seven people were identified by the bus and taken off.
00:04:08Six of them were killed.
00:04:10While one person was lucky enough to escape from there.
00:04:15It is a sad incident.
00:04:17The Balochistan government is deeply sorry for this.
00:04:20And the Prime Minister of Balochistan, Sarfaraz Bugti, has given a clear statement on this.
00:04:25And especially for those who have a soft corner,
00:04:28for all those forces who are involved in these terrorist activities.
00:04:33And there are some people in the political parties in Balochistan
00:04:38who are either confused themselves,
00:04:42or by increasing this confusion,
00:04:45who say they want to be its beneficiaries.
00:04:49So, from their side,
00:04:52there is still no condemnation on this.
00:04:57Mr. Shahid, tell us,
00:04:59the traveller who managed to escape from there,
00:05:02did he identify anyone?
00:05:04What did he say?
00:05:06Look, the details that we have received from there,
00:05:09those details cannot be discussed on the media at the moment.
00:05:12Where the traveller was travelling from,
00:05:15all these things he told us,
00:05:16and how this incident happened.
00:05:18Because the traveller showed courage and managed to escape from there.
00:05:22So, fortunately, he survived.
00:05:24And Mr. Shahid, tell us,
00:05:26since it is Eid,
00:05:28people from Quetta to Karachi travel in large numbers.
00:05:33So, will the bus service continue during the day?
00:05:38Look, the transporters,
00:05:40many times, from the district administration,
00:05:43and from the road transport authority,
00:05:46because of the current situation in Balochistan,
00:05:49it has been said,
00:05:51that they should adopt some SOPs,
00:05:53as a result of which,
00:05:54the timing of travelling,
00:05:56should be kept in such a way,
00:05:57that they should travel during the day.
00:05:59But, wherever there is a violation from the transporters,
00:06:02as a result of that, there is a loss.
00:06:04So, violation,
00:06:05what kind of violation are you talking about, Mr. Shahid?
00:06:09Look, at the moment,
00:06:10some routes,
00:06:11where we are facing the situation of law and order,
00:06:14there, at night,
00:06:15we have instructed the transporters,
00:06:17not to drive the vehicles.
00:06:18But, the transporters are not acting on that right now.
00:06:21It is a must.
00:06:22If, for example,
00:06:23there are things that cannot be explained,
00:06:25then the transporters will also be prosecuted.
00:06:28And, in this situation,
00:06:29what steps are being taken?
00:06:31Is the operation also under consideration?
00:06:35Look, in Balochistan,
00:06:37the situation of law and order at the moment,
00:06:39for that,
00:06:40the decisions that have been made at the level of the National Apex Committee,
00:06:43the Provincial Government,
00:06:44with all its spirit,
00:06:45with the government of loyalty,
00:06:47and with the security forces,
00:06:48together,
00:06:49will act on that.
00:06:51Okay. Thank you so much.
00:06:53Mr. Shahid was with us.
00:06:54With regards to the Balochistan Government and the entire situation,
00:06:56the updates that are there,
00:06:57we will get those official updates.
00:06:59We were talking to you about recycling,
00:07:01that how can we recycle water,
00:07:03how can we recycle those fossils,
00:07:06which are being extinct.
00:07:07And, it has a lot of benefits.
00:07:08It has a lot of benefits.
00:07:09Because, for our future generations,
00:07:11for our future generations,
00:07:12we have to preserve our fossils.
00:07:13How can we recycle them?
00:07:15Now, in Lahore,
00:07:16when we used to travel on the Ring Road,
00:07:18we used to see a dumping site on the left side of the Ring Road,
00:07:23where there was only garbage.
00:07:24And, for garbage,
00:07:25some dumping sites were made.
00:07:26There was a garbage mountain there.
00:07:28It was visible from a distance.
00:07:29And, it was so polluted,
00:07:30that it was very difficult to pass from there.
00:07:32Now, that dump of garbage,
00:07:35now it has become a gold mine.
00:07:37How is it made?
00:07:38Now, it has become a gold mine.
00:07:39Because,
00:07:40billions of rupees will be earned from there.
00:07:42Because, the Rawi Development Authority
00:07:44has made a great project.
00:07:47And, the Mehmood Booty dumping site of Lahore
00:07:49has been converted into a valuable site.
00:07:51Okay.
00:07:52Now, according to the environmental plan,
00:07:54carbon credit,
00:07:55biogas,
00:07:56and electricity will be generated here.
00:07:57With the sale of carbon credit alone,
00:07:59every year,
00:08:00an income of approximately 2.5 billion rupees is expected.
00:08:03Whereas, 5 megawatt electricity will also be sold.
00:08:06The biogas obtained from the dumping site
00:08:08will also provide the government of Punjab
00:08:10with an income of billions of rupees.
00:08:12According to the plan,
00:08:13a vegetable garden and a solar park will also be established.
00:08:16So, now, on this dumping site,
00:08:17basically, a solar park will be established.
00:08:19Now, you can see the footage.
00:08:21Basically, the solar plates will be installed here.
00:08:25And, along with this,
00:08:26a vegetable garden will also be done here.
00:08:27Wow!
00:08:28And, pipes have been installed
00:08:30from where the biogas will be emitted.
00:08:33We can understand the whole process in this way.
00:08:35This project is not only for Lahore,
00:08:37but, we can see,
00:08:38it can prove quite revolutionary for the whole of Punjab.
00:08:41And, of course,
00:08:42we need to make our environmental climate change better.
00:08:47So, let's talk about it.
00:08:48We have with us,
00:08:50Abid Teef,
00:08:51the translator of Ravi Urban Development Authority.
00:08:53Tell us, Abid,
00:08:55first of all,
00:08:56this project,
00:08:57we find it very interesting
00:08:58that its details are presented.
00:08:59How did it come up?
00:09:01And, in how many phases will it be completed?
00:09:03Will it take time or what?
00:09:33There was a heap of garbage,
00:09:37due to which,
00:09:38as you just mentioned,
00:09:39a lot of emissions were occurring,
00:09:41which were of greenhouse gases,
00:09:43due to which,
00:09:44the climate was being affected,
00:09:45the environment was being affected.
00:09:46And,
00:09:47leachate,
00:09:48which is a dangerous liquid,
00:09:51which is made from this garbage,
00:09:53and was seeping into the ground below,
00:09:55due to which,
00:09:56the shallow aquifer,
00:09:58was causing a lot of damage to it.
00:10:01And,
00:10:02the ground,
00:10:03the groundwater,
00:10:04was being polluted to a great extent.
00:10:05And,
00:10:06if you pass through here,
00:10:07there was a foul smell,
00:10:08there was a place,
00:10:10which was an eyesore,
00:10:13which was a smell,
00:10:15and a heap of garbage,
00:10:17which did not look good.
00:10:19So,
00:10:20this idea came up,
00:10:21when in 2021,
00:10:22when RUDA,
00:10:23Ravi Urban Development Authority,
00:10:25came into force,
00:10:26and it formally came into existence,
00:10:29because,
00:10:30it came into RUDA's territory,
00:10:31and the concept of RUDA,
00:10:33is that,
00:10:34it is environmental,
00:10:35ecology,
00:10:36ecology based.
00:10:37Because,
00:10:38it is a complete concept on the river,
00:10:40and the river has to be revived.
00:10:42So,
00:10:43the first thought that came up was,
00:10:44if in RUDA,
00:10:45there is such a big heap of garbage,
00:10:47which contains 13 million tons of garbage,
00:10:49and if you can't change it,
00:10:52then,
00:10:53the principles of RUDA,
00:10:55were not aligning with it.
00:10:58So,
00:10:59RUDA talked to LWMC about this,
00:11:02and then...
00:11:04So,
00:11:05Mr. Abid Lateef will tell us,
00:11:07this project,
00:11:09apart from carbon credit,
00:11:11and...
00:11:12Okay,
00:11:13let's connect again,
00:11:14there was a technical issue.
00:11:15Now,
00:11:16basically,
00:11:17let me explain what this scene is.
00:11:18Here,
00:11:19this dumping site,
00:11:20there was a heap of garbage,
00:11:21that heap of garbage,
00:11:22was locked with sheets,
00:11:23a specific type of sheet,
00:11:24a material.
00:11:25Now,
00:11:26why did they do this?
00:11:27Because,
00:11:28when it rained,
00:11:29the rain water,
00:11:30mixed with the garbage,
00:11:31that created two things.
00:11:32One,
00:11:33it emitted greenhouse gases,
00:11:34which went into the air.
00:11:35And dirty water.
00:11:36The second thing was,
00:11:37the dirty water,
00:11:38was affecting the ground water.
00:11:39And it was affecting the ground water as well.
00:11:40It was affecting the ground water as well.
00:11:41Okay,
00:11:42I think Mr. Abid will connect with us again.
00:11:43Mr. Abid,
00:11:44let's talk to him again.
00:11:45Mr. Abid,
00:11:46please tell us,
00:11:47apart from carbon credit,
00:11:48biogas,
00:11:49what else can be obtained from this project?
00:11:50And,
00:11:51according to an estimate,
00:11:52how much income is expected from this project?
00:11:57As you know,
00:11:58carbon credit is a new concept in the climate.
00:12:04And,
00:12:05if you look at it,
00:12:06there is a world of
00:12:08billions,
00:12:09a gold system,
00:12:11and fiat,
00:12:14which is our currency.
00:12:15Now,
00:12:16keeping the climate in view,
00:12:17under UNFCCC,
00:12:19and the obligations of the United Nations on the state,
00:12:22according to that,
00:12:23every person,
00:12:24every country,
00:12:25every industry,
00:12:26which is producing carbon,
00:12:27has a liability,
00:12:30to mitigate it,
00:12:32or to do it through its sequestration,
00:12:34or through some other mechanism.
00:12:36So,
00:12:37this is the responsibility of the country,
00:12:38and this is the responsibility of the individual as well.
00:12:40Because of this,
00:12:41now a carbon market,
00:12:42internationally,
00:12:43in the whole world,
00:12:44every country is aligned with it.
00:12:46And,
00:12:47that has been created,
00:12:48which has different registries,
00:12:49which has different brokerages.
00:12:51Now,
00:12:52what happens is,
00:12:53if you,
00:12:54at some place,
00:12:55for example,
00:12:56methane is coming out from here,
00:12:57and methane,
00:12:58one ton of methane,
00:12:59if you mitigate it,
00:13:02then it has a rate,
00:13:04which you call a carbon credit.
00:13:06If you mitigate one ton of carbon dioxide,
00:13:10then you get a carbon credit for that.
00:13:13And that one ton has a rate.
00:13:16Abhishek sir,
00:13:17methane is a highly flammable gas.
00:13:21So,
00:13:22how safe is this project?
00:13:25Yes,
00:13:26methane is highly flammable,
00:13:28if you,
00:13:29you know,
00:13:30it is ignited.
00:13:31But,
00:13:32if you capture it,
00:13:33because this natural gas,
00:13:35it is a methane,
00:13:36if you capture it,
00:13:37and capture it,
00:13:38and store it,
00:13:39that is why,
00:13:40here,
00:13:41the site of Mehmood Booty,
00:13:42here,
00:13:4352 wells have been installed,
00:13:45through which it will be captured,
00:13:47and there is a network,
00:13:48from there,
00:13:49it will go to the switch facility,
00:13:50from where it will be containerized.
00:13:53Right.
00:13:54So,
00:13:55if it is open,
00:13:56if the emission is open,
00:13:59then it is very dangerous.
00:14:01Earlier,
00:14:02like Mehmood Booty,
00:14:03but now,
00:14:04through these layers,
00:14:05the entire system has been capped.
00:14:07Okay.
00:14:08Now,
00:14:09it is not dangerous.
00:14:10It is not dangerous.
00:14:11Now,
00:14:12it will be containerized.
00:14:13Abhishek sir,
00:14:14tell us,
00:14:15if electricity can be generated,
00:14:16then how many megawatts of electricity
00:14:17can be generated from this project?
00:14:19Yes,
00:14:20the site of Mehmood Booty,
00:14:21is 43 acres.
00:14:22Yes.
00:14:23From this,
00:14:24the top,
00:14:25the table top,
00:14:26the plateau,
00:14:27is 11 acres,
00:14:28and above that,
00:14:29along with everything,
00:14:30solar will be installed.
00:14:31And,
00:14:32about 5 megawatts,
00:14:33of electricity,
00:14:34will be generated from that.
00:14:35Hmm.
00:14:36So,
00:14:37Mr. Shahid,
00:14:38now,
00:14:39when the gas will be emitted,
00:14:40after that,
00:14:41the residue,
00:14:42which will remain,
00:14:43in the form of garbage,
00:14:44in the form of garbage,
00:14:45that,
00:14:47will it remain in the dumping site itself,
00:14:49or will it be extracted later?
00:14:54See,
00:14:55the mountain you were talking about,
00:14:56that there is a mountain,
00:14:57so,
00:14:58mountain still exists.
00:14:59That mountain is,
00:15:00if you remove the dust from your mind,
00:15:02so,
00:15:03it is a mass of 13 million tons.
00:15:05Okay.
00:15:06And,
00:15:07gas is being excreted from that mass.
00:15:08Hmm.
00:15:09Now,
00:15:10what has been done is,
00:15:11that mass has been shaped up first,
00:15:12after shaping it,
00:15:13slopes have been made,
00:15:14and,
00:15:15that shape has been consolidated.
00:15:17How has it been consolidated?
00:15:19First,
00:15:20a layer of 3 feet of soil has been put on it.
00:15:22Then,
00:15:23a membrane has been put on it,
00:15:25which is called,
00:15:26geomembrane.
00:15:27After that,
00:15:28there is a drainage membrane.
00:15:29Then,
00:15:30there is a geomembrane.
00:15:31And then,
00:15:32there is a layer of soil of 3 meters.
00:15:34Right.
00:15:35Now,
00:15:36due to this,
00:15:37it has become compaction.
00:15:38All the garbage that was there,
00:15:39has gone down.
00:15:40And,
00:15:41for the gas extraction,
00:15:42for that,
00:15:43while making it,
00:15:44or,
00:15:45while working on this infrastructure,
00:15:46all the pipes have been fitted in it.
00:15:48Right.
00:15:49The outlet of which,
00:15:50has been connected with 52 wells.
00:15:53So,
00:15:54now,
00:15:55the pile of garbage will remain there.
00:15:56It is in a solid form.
00:15:57But,
00:15:58the gas that is coming out of there,
00:15:59through those pipes,
00:16:00will come in those wells.
00:16:02And,
00:16:03from those wells,
00:16:04through suction pumps,
00:16:05it will be collected,
00:16:06and,
00:16:07it will go to the main storage.
00:16:08So,
00:16:09actually,
00:16:10on that garbage,
00:16:11for how long,
00:16:12for how long,
00:16:13this pile of garbage,
00:16:14for how long,
00:16:15will it continue to benefit,
00:16:16the facilities,
00:16:17or,
00:16:18how should I say,
00:16:19will it continue to benefit?
00:16:22Yes,
00:16:23this pile of garbage,
00:16:24first of all,
00:16:25this pile of garbage,
00:16:26you can say,
00:16:27this pile is permanent.
00:16:28But,
00:16:29the gas extraction from it,
00:16:30as per the estimates,
00:16:31gas extraction will continue
00:16:32for 20 years.
00:16:33And,
00:16:34this,
00:16:35park,
00:16:36along with it,
00:16:37the park that has been built,
00:16:38which is an urban forest,
00:16:39this,
00:16:40and,
00:16:41its solar panel,
00:16:42of course,
00:16:43it will continue to benefit.
00:16:44But,
00:16:45the gas extraction,
00:16:46we are expecting,
00:16:47the estimates,
00:16:48the studies,
00:16:49will continue to extract
00:16:50gas from it
00:16:51for around 20 years.
00:16:52Right,
00:16:53right.
00:16:54Okay,
00:16:55thank you so much,
00:16:56Mr. Abid Lateef.
00:16:57This is a very
00:16:58great project,
00:16:59and,
00:17:00you have told us
00:17:01the details of it.
00:17:02I hope,
00:17:03in Sindh,
00:17:04there is work like this,
00:17:05and,
00:17:06especially in Karachi,
00:17:07the problem of garbage,
00:17:08there is a Jamsakro,
00:17:09a dump yard in Karachi,
00:17:10there is another dump yard.
00:17:11So,
00:17:12if work is done in this way,
00:17:13then we can improve
00:17:14the environment,
00:17:15and,
00:17:16we can generate a little electricity,
00:17:17and,
00:17:18a lot can happen here.
00:17:19It is like this.
00:17:20So,
00:17:21it is a very
00:17:22marvelous project.
00:17:23Okay,
00:17:24let us move forward,
00:17:25and,
00:17:26if you are talking about Sindh,
00:17:27let us talk about Sindh.
00:17:28In schools,
00:17:29no kind of restriction
00:17:30has been imposed,
00:17:31for teachers,
00:17:32the ongoing code of conduct,
00:17:33is not a directive,
00:17:34but,
00:17:35a guiding principle.
00:17:36Okay.
00:17:37Yes,
00:17:38the Sindh Institute of Education
00:17:39has issued a clarification,
00:17:40according to which,
00:17:41the aim of the code of conduct
00:17:42is standard education,
00:17:43improvement of the educational environment,
00:17:44and,
00:17:45proper use of resources.
00:17:46Okay,
00:17:47teachers are the future
00:17:48of children,
00:17:49and,
00:17:50their social and
00:17:51psychological
00:17:52activities,
00:17:53are guided by them.
00:17:54The rules and regulations
00:17:55are compiled
00:17:56from the consultation
00:17:57of the teachers' organizations,
00:17:58Vukla,
00:17:59and civil society.
00:18:00Okay,
00:18:01what happened was,
00:18:02a notification
00:18:03came in the last few days,
00:18:04in which,
00:18:05the code of conduct
00:18:06was written,
00:18:07what kind of clothes
00:18:08to wear,
00:18:09what to do,
00:18:10in schools,
00:18:11institutions,
00:18:12colleges,
00:18:13and universities.
00:18:14But,
00:18:15now,
00:18:16it is being said,
00:18:17that,
00:18:18in a way,
00:18:19it was to guide you,
00:18:20this notification
00:18:21from the Sindh government,
00:18:22but,
00:18:23there is no specific
00:18:24restriction on this.
00:18:25And,
00:18:26it was said,
00:18:27that,
00:18:28only suggestions
00:18:29were given
00:18:30regarding
00:18:31clothing and
00:18:32style,
00:18:33and,
00:18:34I think,
00:18:35I was sneezing,
00:18:36and,
00:18:37there are no strict
00:18:38restrictions on
00:18:39this.
00:18:40And,
00:18:41there is also
00:18:42mention of
00:18:43tobacco,
00:18:44tobacco,
00:18:45and cigarettes.
00:18:46Mawa also.
00:18:47A complete restriction
00:18:48has been imposed
00:18:49on their use,
00:18:50so that,
00:18:51the educational environment
00:18:52can be kept safe.
00:18:53I don't understand
00:18:54why,
00:18:55in schools,
00:18:56small children
00:18:57are getting
00:18:58addicted to
00:18:59tobacco,
00:19:00tobacco,
00:19:01and cigarettes
00:19:02like this.
00:19:03Okay,
00:19:04for teachers also,
00:19:05I think,
00:19:06a restriction
00:19:07on tobacco
00:19:08is also
00:19:09a responsibility
00:19:10for children.
00:19:11So,
00:19:12they should feel
00:19:13their responsibility.
00:19:14And,
00:19:15children,
00:19:16especially,
00:19:17small children,
00:19:18should not
00:19:19use products
00:19:20related to
00:19:21tobacco.
00:19:22And,
00:19:23see,
00:19:24it is not good
00:19:25for your health,
00:19:26it is not good
00:19:27for the health
00:19:28of your teeth.
00:19:29So,
00:19:30this is the
00:19:31situation.
00:19:32Now,
00:19:33when we are
00:19:34talking about
00:19:35health,
00:19:36it has been
00:19:37confirmed
00:19:38in more than
00:19:39100 people,
00:19:40most of whom
00:19:41are children.
00:19:42Now,
00:19:43we will have
00:19:44to find out
00:19:45why there are
00:19:46so many children
00:19:47here.
00:19:48In December
00:19:492024,
00:19:50only one case
00:19:51was positive,
00:19:52after which
00:19:53screening was
00:19:54started,
00:19:55and it was
00:19:56found that
00:19:57more than
00:19:58100 people
00:19:59are affected
00:20:00by this.
00:20:01And,
00:20:02a committee
00:20:03has been
00:20:04established
00:20:05to find
00:20:06out
00:20:07the reason
00:20:08for the
00:20:09increase
00:20:10in the
00:20:11number of
00:20:12cases of
00:20:13HIV.
00:20:14Secondly,
00:20:15tell us
00:20:16why the
00:20:17number of
00:20:18children is
00:20:19increasing.
00:20:20We have
00:20:21heard that
00:20:22HIV is
00:20:23mostly
00:20:24found in
00:20:25adults.
00:20:26Why is
00:20:27it being
00:20:28diagnosed
00:20:29in children?
00:20:30Look,
00:20:31Saeem,
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00:24:26and in Azad Kashmir it rained less than 30%.
00:24:28Whereas in KP it rained 35% and in Azad Kashmir it rained less than 29%.
00:24:33Wow, wow, wow.
00:24:34Okay.
00:24:35And you know this is a very interesting thing
00:24:37because drought, or dry season,
00:24:40there is a possibility of drought.
00:24:42During March, in different parts of the country,
00:24:44the average temperature was more than 2 to 3 degrees.
00:24:48So in some southern parts of the country,
00:24:50it hasn't rained for 200 days.
00:24:52It hasn't rained for 200 days in some southern parts of the country.
00:24:56To talk about this, we have with us
00:24:58the Deputy Director of Mehkham Ausamiyat, Anjum Nazeer.
00:25:01Thank you very much, Anjum, for joining our program.
00:25:04Sir, how serious can the situation be of drought and severe drought?
00:25:09And what steps can we take to avoid this?
00:25:15Yes, thank you very much.
00:25:16You have told us almost all the stats,
00:25:21the situation is exactly like this.
00:25:23Obviously, it has rained less.
00:25:25In our northern areas, our catchment areas,
00:25:28because of which our reservoirs are at a dead level.
00:25:32And in the coming time,
00:25:34the snowfall on the mountains has also decreased,
00:25:37less than usual,
00:25:38because of which, you are saying,
00:25:40our safe reservoirs of water,
00:25:43which are present in the form of glaciers,
00:25:46there has also been a decrease in them.
00:25:48So, in the coming time, when the snow melts,
00:25:51and the water that comes to us in our reservoirs,
00:25:54its quantity will also decrease.
00:25:56So, for this, first of all,
00:25:58the water that we use the most,
00:26:01of course, it is in agriculture.
00:26:04So, for this, we will have to plan on an emergency basis.
00:26:10Irsa-e-Selze is working, it is their job,
00:26:13that we use water as little as possible.
00:26:16And for this, they have brought their farmers
00:26:19to go towards drip irrigation,
00:26:21where water is wasted as little as possible.
00:26:24The rest is that, of course,
00:26:26there will be a shortage of drinking water.
00:26:28So, for this, we need to plan on an emergency basis.
00:26:31So, Mr. Anjum, in the coming days,
00:26:34if we talk about the month,
00:26:36can it rain in these days?
00:26:38Are there any signs?
00:26:41If we talk about April and May,
00:26:44then according to the analysis so far,
00:26:47in these two months,
00:26:49our northern-western areas,
00:26:52or our catchment areas,
00:26:54there will be very little rain.
00:26:57In which you have Gilgit-Baltistan,
00:26:59there is KP, there are some areas of Kashmir,
00:27:02there are areas of north-western Punjab,
00:27:05there is an expectation of less rain
00:27:07in the coming two months.
00:27:09However, in the southern areas of the country,
00:27:11there will be rain as usual,
00:27:13but let me tell you that
00:27:15their average is extremely low.
00:27:17So, if this situation persists
00:27:19for the next one to two months,
00:27:21then the advisory issue
00:27:23that the Meteorological Department
00:27:25has issued for a moderate drought,
00:27:27especially for the southern region of the country,
00:27:30then it will go towards severity.
00:27:32So, Mr. Anjum, how much rain
00:27:34does it usually rain from September to March?
00:27:39Look, if we talk about September to March,
00:27:43then there are different averages.
00:27:45So, if you talk about the rain that has just rained,
00:27:48then you can say that
00:27:5168% of the rain has rained,
00:27:56but the deficit of 42% is so high
00:28:00that our reservoirs were to be filled,
00:28:02but they could not be filled.
00:28:04And if I tell you that
00:28:06according to the current analysis
00:28:08of September to March,
00:28:1063.6% rain has decreased in Pakistan.
00:28:14So, guess what could be the reason
00:28:16for 60% less rain?
00:28:18Okay, tell us a little bit about the heat
00:28:20because the temperature has also risen by 2 degrees.
00:28:22So, will the heat in other parts of the country,
00:28:24including Karachi,
00:28:26increase further in the coming days?
00:28:28Look, as you said,
00:28:30during March and February,
00:28:32our maximum temperature
00:28:34was 2.28 degrees above the average,
00:28:39while the minimum temperature
00:28:41was 1.3 degrees above the average.
00:28:45So, these two things,
00:28:47like Pakistan is an agricultural country,
00:28:49so it is a big factor for our agriculture
00:28:51that there is a shortage of water
00:28:53and then due to high temperatures,
00:28:55the soil moisture
00:28:57that is wet in the ground
00:28:59has decreased further,
00:29:01so the drought has increased.
00:29:03In the coming time,
00:29:05the temperature is expected to be
00:29:07higher than normal,
00:29:09so when the temperature is high,
00:29:11your fever will also increase
00:29:13and because of that,
00:29:15the water in your reservoir
00:29:17can decrease further.
00:29:19Okay, thank you very much.
00:29:21Deputy Director Meher Khan Mausamiyar,
00:29:23Mr. Anjum Nazeer was with us
00:29:25and the threat of drought
00:29:27is now ringing the bell
00:29:29on our heads,
00:29:31a 15-year-old young man
00:29:33has died in a trolley crash.
00:29:35Salman Nodhi is with us
00:29:37and we will get to know more.
00:29:39Salman, please tell us.
00:29:41This incident took place
00:29:43near Norgan Bypass, Mangupi.
00:29:45A fast-moving trolley hit a motorcycle.
00:29:47Two young men were in the motorcycle
00:29:49and one of them died on the spot.
00:29:51He was 15 years old.
00:29:53The other boy with him
00:29:55was 18 years younger than him.
00:29:57The police said that after the incident,
00:29:59the driver of the trolley
00:30:01escaped from the scene.
00:30:03They are trying to catch him.
00:30:05The police also said that
00:30:07the young man with the motorcycle
00:30:09was also 18 years younger than him.
00:30:11The police are investigating
00:30:13the cause of the accident.
00:30:15Salman, thank you very much.
00:30:17This incident in Karachi
00:30:19is not stopping.
00:30:21It is not clear
00:30:23that all the steps have been taken
00:30:25but the incidents are not decreasing.
00:30:27This is a new incident.
00:30:29Now, let's go to Vifakhi Darul Hukumat.
00:30:31A great thing is happening there.
00:30:33The decision has been made
00:30:35to transfer solar energy to hospitals.
00:30:37The hospitals of Islamabad
00:30:39will be transferred to solar energy
00:30:41in stages.
00:30:43In the first phase, there are PINS,
00:30:45Polyclinic, NIRM
00:30:47and FG hospitals will be in the second phase.
00:30:49This is a very good solarizing plan.
00:30:51In Punjab,
00:30:53Vifakhi Darul Hukumat
00:30:55is working on
00:30:57green energy.
00:31:03On one hand, this is a saving.
00:31:05On the other hand,
00:31:07this is a protection.
00:31:09This is a requirement.
00:31:11This is a high time
00:31:13that all the big projects
00:31:15and institutions
00:31:17should be transferred to solar energy.
00:31:19I am happy to say
00:31:21that finally,
00:31:23the government has understood
00:31:25how to protect the weather,
00:31:27how to protect the fossils,
00:31:29how to protect the environment.
00:31:31Work is being done for this.
00:31:33The purpose of transferring solar energy
00:31:35to hospitals is that
00:31:37they will not be dependent on normal electricity.
00:31:39They will generate their own electricity.
00:31:41It is possible that they will generate
00:31:43so much electricity that they can sell it to the government.
00:31:45It should also happen that
00:31:47the people who are investing
00:31:49individually should
00:31:51be encouraged.
00:31:53This is a good project.
00:31:55When people want to do it collectively,
00:31:57they should not be discouraged.
00:31:59We are getting more and more news
00:32:01about taxes.
00:32:03We should invest in people.
00:32:05Then you can decide.
00:32:07But this is a better option.
00:32:09It is a cheap option.
00:32:11Today, the world is celebrating
00:32:13the International Day of Theater.
00:32:15If we talk about the history of theater,
00:32:17if you have to go to Rome or Italy,
00:32:19the Colosseum there
00:32:21is a kind of theater.
00:32:23There were big gladiators
00:32:25and such fights.
00:32:27It started
00:32:292,500 BC.
00:32:31Later,
00:32:33it came in different forms.
00:32:35Shakespeare's dramas
00:32:37used to take place
00:32:39in London's Globe Theater.
00:32:41Today, we see stage performances.
00:32:43After that, it spread to other countries.
00:32:45If we talk about the theater of Pakistan,
00:32:47the theater of Pakistan
00:32:49was successful.
00:32:51Dramas and performances
00:32:53have been produced here.
00:32:55Writers like Agha Hashir, Kashmiri, Imtiaz Ali
00:32:57have made a big name.
00:32:59The purpose of today's theater day
00:33:01is to celebrate
00:33:03the non-ethical cinema
00:33:05or theater.
00:33:07We should try
00:33:09to control it.
00:33:11We should control
00:33:13the non-ethical things
00:33:15and leave them.
00:33:17How did it come to this site?
00:33:19The theater of Pakistan
00:33:21has always been great.
00:33:23We have seen
00:33:25the biggest performance
00:33:27of history in any country.
00:33:29How did it come to this stage?
00:33:31We would like to know.
00:33:33We have with us
00:33:35senior actor, Usman B. Zadar.
00:33:37Thank you very much, Usman
00:33:39for joining us in our program.
00:33:41The purpose of theater is
00:33:43to educate people
00:33:45and to reform them.
00:33:47Do you think this is right?
00:33:53Theater sets the mood
00:33:55of a community.
00:33:57It reflects
00:33:59a particular society,
00:34:01a community, a country
00:34:03where the theater exists.
00:34:05For example,
00:34:07Shakespeare's theater
00:34:09reflects
00:34:11European stories.
00:34:19Theater is
00:34:21the first form
00:34:23of expression
00:34:25of a person.
00:34:27When the language
00:34:29did not develop,
00:34:31when the feelings
00:34:33of sadness,
00:34:35of happiness,
00:34:37of joy,
00:34:39of happiness,
00:34:41of anger
00:34:43communicated
00:34:45between people.
00:34:47There was no language.
00:34:49So, all of this
00:34:51is a theatrical tradition.
00:34:53We call it body language.
00:34:55Through this,
00:34:57stories were told.
00:34:59When the language
00:35:01did not develop,
00:35:03you used to explain
00:35:05to the next person
00:35:07what kind of animal
00:35:09you saw.
00:35:11Theater has its own
00:35:13traditions in various
00:35:15countries. Unfortunately,
00:35:17in Pakistan,
00:35:19we have not done
00:35:21the best theater.
00:35:23We have done
00:35:25very bad theater.
00:35:27In my opinion,
00:35:29when we were in college,
00:35:31there was a very good
00:35:33theater tradition
00:35:35in Pakistan.
00:35:37There were regularity
00:35:39gaps, but
00:35:41it was always good.
00:35:43When I went to
00:35:45Government College,
00:35:47Lahore,
00:35:49where I spent
00:35:51six years of my life,
00:35:53the drama club
00:35:55of that college
00:35:57was very old.
00:35:59When I went to college,
00:36:01it was 80 years old.
00:36:03In that drama club,
00:36:05there was a fund from the union.
00:36:07In those days,
00:36:09theater was very good.
00:36:11But the commercial values
00:36:13of theater started to increase.
00:36:15So, there was a lot of
00:36:17chaos.
00:36:19You are talking about
00:36:21commercial values,
00:36:23but when we talk about
00:36:25the theater of the 70s and 60s,
00:36:27you did a good job,
00:36:29quality work.
00:36:31You made a name for yourself
00:36:33in Pakistan's dramas.
00:36:35How did you make a difference
00:36:37in today's theater?
00:36:39What attracted you?
00:36:41Why did you start
00:36:43commercializing?
00:36:47Theater is
00:36:49because there are no
00:36:51opportunities for
00:36:53entertainment in Pakistan.
00:36:55I don't mean
00:36:57that you sit at home
00:36:59all the time.
00:37:01Entertainment means
00:37:03you go out of your house,
00:37:05you go with a family,
00:37:07you go with a friend,
00:37:09you go with a wife,
00:37:11you go with family people
00:37:13and go and enjoy
00:37:15something which is
00:37:17called theater.
00:37:19That joy,
00:37:21because theater
00:37:23has become boys night out
00:37:25as far as Lahore is concerned.
00:37:27Many actors have
00:37:29left theater.
00:37:31Sohail Ahmed is an example.
00:37:33He has done a lot of work with me.
00:37:35He also left theater
00:37:37because vulgarity had reached
00:37:39its peak.
00:37:41So we couldn't control
00:37:43these things.
00:37:45The aesthetics of theater
00:37:47didn't work.
00:37:49Very little work was done.
00:37:51Like Napa was made,
00:37:53it was good that Napa was made
00:37:55because it was good work.
00:37:57But Napa was not enough.
00:37:59You are talking of the whole country.
00:38:01Why isn't there a street theater?
00:38:03Pakistan is such a big country.
00:38:05Why isn't there a street theater?
00:38:07Comedy is happening, everything is happening
00:38:09but there is no street theater.
00:38:11Now we want to give awareness
00:38:13about our environment
00:38:15and about security,
00:38:17tolerance, and morality.
00:38:19This was the most
00:38:21modern way of messaging
00:38:23and conveying our message.
00:38:27Rafi Pir Theater Workshop
00:38:29has done a lot of work
00:38:31in awareness.
00:38:33In Punjab,
00:38:35we have worked with family planning
00:38:37and drug enforcement agencies
00:38:39to bring awareness
00:38:41among people.
00:38:43But that is another theater.
00:38:45That is a theater
00:38:47which communicates with people
00:38:49to behave in a certain way
00:38:51and how to handle a certain situation.
00:38:53Whereas the drama
00:38:55which we talk about,
00:38:57which you repeatedly call Shakespeare,
00:38:59or Moliere,
00:39:01or many other great writers
00:39:03whom we have read,
00:39:05performed,
00:39:07we have not been able
00:39:09to reach that level
00:39:11in large quantity.
00:39:17Like Mr. Zia did a drama,
00:39:19or Napa,
00:39:21or Lahore,
00:39:27or committed theater groups.
00:39:31Then a political theater was born
00:39:33and especially
00:39:35commercial theater
00:39:37became a nightclub act.
00:39:39Because there were no nightclubs here.
00:39:41In that theater,
00:39:43women were dancing and singing.
00:39:45It was not that
00:39:47there should not be nightclubs
00:39:49in the theater.
00:39:51But there should be a connection
00:39:53with the story.
00:39:55Like when we watch musicals
00:39:57in the West,
00:39:59those musicals are made
00:40:01for that particular drama.
00:40:03It is not that
00:40:05women come to Punjabi films
00:40:07and dance for a while.
00:40:09In our country,
00:40:11the big theater,
00:40:13the commercial theater,
00:40:15which was earning
00:40:17lakhs of rupees,
00:40:19now that theater
00:40:21is on television.
00:40:23All those people
00:40:25are political observers.
00:40:27They are the political statements
00:40:29they are giving.
00:40:31In our country,
00:40:33theater was...
00:40:35I keep repeating this
00:40:37many times,
00:40:39the definition of theater
00:40:41by my father,
00:40:43he used to say,
00:40:45the definition of theater
00:40:47by Rafi Peer,
00:40:49is that drama is
00:40:51a musical act
00:40:53in which people
00:40:55dance and sing
00:40:57in a melodious voice
00:40:59and the audience
00:41:01is filled with
00:41:03eternal happiness.
00:41:05Wow!
00:41:09Thank you very much,
00:41:11you have given
00:41:13very useful advice.
00:41:15Theater has a lot of value.
00:41:17In my opinion,
00:41:19I am very critical
00:41:21of the kind of work
00:41:23theater has produced in this country.
00:41:25Right.
00:41:27Thank you so much,
00:41:29Usman Zada sahib was with us
00:41:31and a lot is yet to happen.
00:41:33Obviously, we see that
00:41:35the means of entertainment have changed.
00:41:37Netflix, stand-up comedy,
00:41:39we do a lot of things.
00:41:41But theater has revived.
00:41:43Young people,
00:41:45educated young people,
00:41:47are practicing theater
00:41:49and are doing it very well.
00:41:51Let's talk about
00:41:53the famous classical singer
00:41:55Ustad Rafaqat Ali Khan.
00:41:57He gave a lecture
00:41:59on the future of classical music
00:42:01to a music student
00:42:03at Oxford University.
00:42:05He was very interested
00:42:07and he heard the lecture.
00:42:09He not only sang raag,
00:42:11but also a famous song.
00:42:13He sang Mast Kalandar.
00:42:15After listening to it,
00:42:17people started dancing.
00:42:19Let's show you the report
00:42:21of our representative,
00:42:23Aftab Beg.
00:42:37Students from all over the world
00:42:39listened to Ustad Rafaqat Ali
00:42:41with interest and
00:42:43enjoyed his voice.
00:42:59Ustad Rafaqat Ali also visited
00:43:01the Kaim Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan
00:43:03Rehearsal Room
00:43:05of the Kaim Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan
00:43:07Music Library.
00:43:09Along with old and new music,
00:43:11he also sang songs
00:43:13on the harmonium
00:43:15of Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan.
00:43:35Ustad Rafaqat Ali Khan
00:43:37sang Mast Kalandar
00:43:39and the audience
00:43:41applauded him.
00:43:43Aftab Beg,
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