Bakhabar Savera with Ashfaq Satti and Sadaf Abdul Jabbar

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Bakhabar Savera with Ashfaq Satti and Sadaf Abdul Jabbar | 31st Jan 2025

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00:00:00In the name of Allah, the most Gracious, the most Merciful.

00:00:11Assalamu Alaikum, Good morning to you all.

00:00:15I am Sadaf Abdul Jabbar and I am here with my host Satti.

00:00:18Before we go ahead with the program, I have two requests.

00:00:21The American lady who has come,

00:00:23she has created a lot of drama.

00:00:26She has made everyone laugh.

00:00:28She has created memes and trolls.

00:00:31She has done whatever she wanted to do.

00:00:33She overstayed her visa.

00:00:35May God send her back.

00:00:37And that kid, I will call him a kid.

00:00:39He has done a very stupid thing.

00:00:41But he has become a fugitive in his own country.

00:00:43He is hiding.

00:00:45Please don't share his picture.

00:00:47Don't share his details.

00:00:49He has made a mistake.

00:00:51Because she is only 19 years old.

00:00:53But this lady,

00:00:55she is in her 40s.

00:00:5740s or 30s?

00:00:5930s or 40s, she is mature.

00:01:01She is mature compared to that boy.

00:01:03Now they have understood what has happened.

00:01:05It is wrong, we agree.

00:01:07But they should go back.

00:01:09The way that kid is being made fun of.

00:01:11He has done a very wrong thing.

00:01:13We don't endorse him.

00:01:15But this story is not that big.

00:01:17And the second thing is,

00:01:19The way the statements are coming

00:01:21from our politicians.

00:01:23Please use common sense.

00:01:25This is not a joke.

00:01:27The law of our country,

00:01:29which applies to all Pakistani citizens,

00:01:31that law also applies to others.

00:01:33When we go to another country,

00:01:35we cannot do anything there

00:01:37which is against the law of that country.

00:01:39I just want to complete.

00:01:41Which is against the law.

00:01:43But this lady, her visa is also being extended.

00:01:45She is getting everything.

00:01:47She is getting all the security.

00:01:49She is with the embassy.

00:01:51Just please follow your law.

00:01:53Can I?

00:01:55Yes, you should.

00:01:57There are 2-3 things in this.

00:01:59There are 2-3 aspects.

00:02:01One is that he was 19, he is 19.

00:02:03Whatever he did,

00:02:05his family may not know about it.

00:02:07What he did.

00:02:09Not only that he may be punishable.

00:02:11Or whatever actions he took.

00:02:13But this has been going on for 3 months.

00:02:15You should follow the legal process.

00:02:17There should be legal proceedings.

00:02:19If there is any legal action,

00:02:21the American consulate could have

00:02:23pursued it further.

00:02:25But here,

00:02:27we have talked about this for 3-4 minutes.

00:02:29But we want to guide you.

00:02:31As a Pakistani,

00:02:33our politicians,

00:02:35mayors, governors,

00:02:37should be careful.

00:02:39Because you are representing Pakistan.

00:02:41The way we are doing.

00:02:43In other countries,

00:02:45people translate what the governor

00:02:47or the mayor is saying.

00:02:49This is not appropriate.

00:02:51We have seen

00:02:53that many people,

00:02:55yesterday we also said that

00:02:57we will give a marriage proposal.

00:02:59This is a joke.

00:03:01Let's be serious about something.

00:03:03It is very important.

00:03:05Yesterday, I was saying

00:03:07that the helicopter

00:03:09suddenly came out of nowhere.

00:03:11The plane was going fine.

00:03:13There was a Pakistani,

00:03:15American woman,

00:03:17she told her husband

00:03:1920 minutes before the plane

00:03:21that she was going to land.

00:03:23But there were no survivors.

00:03:25I think there were 64 passengers.

00:03:27Total 64.

00:03:29There were 3 helicopters.

00:03:31Black Hawk helicopter.

00:03:33After the plane fell into the river,

00:03:35the process of removing the body

00:03:37is going on.

00:03:39There was a video of the plane.

00:03:41That's very unfortunate.

00:03:43Anyway.

00:03:45Let's come to the

00:03:47related issues of Pakistan.

00:03:49This was also a related issue

00:03:51that we mentioned in the first story.

00:03:53Let's talk about political issues.

00:03:55How many days have passed

00:03:57in politics?

00:03:59If we want to count,

00:04:01I think it's been months.

00:04:03After 26th November,

00:04:05they will sit at the negotiating table.

00:04:07Pakistan's Judicial Commission

00:04:09will form a committee.

00:04:11Parliamentary Judicial Commission

00:04:13will not be formed.

00:04:15We will not sit at the negotiating table.

00:04:17But what happened yesterday?

00:04:19We think that

00:04:21who needs the most

00:04:23in this negotiation?

00:04:25The Justice Movement.

00:04:27Who is going to make the demands?

00:04:29The Justice Movement.

00:04:31But who is proposing

00:04:33to resume the negotiations?

00:04:35The Prime Minister of Pakistan

00:04:37is saying that the negotiations

00:04:39should resume.

00:04:41We are ready to form a committee.

00:04:43Now, the Prime Minister

00:04:45has again invited for negotiations.

00:04:47What is the benefit of such negotiations

00:04:49if we know from the beginning

00:04:51to the end where they will end up?

00:04:53I just want to ask this question.

00:04:55In this negotiation process,

00:04:57whether it is PTI or the government,

00:04:59is it serious?

00:05:01We were discussing

00:05:03that a committee has been formed

00:05:05and negotiations are going on.

00:05:07Later, it was discussed

00:05:09that they have already said

00:05:11that they do not want to form a judicial commission.

00:05:13So, why should we wait for the date?

00:05:15Secondly, the judicial commissions

00:05:17that have been formed in this country,

00:05:19apart from one or two,

00:05:21their history is present.

00:05:23Neither their reports come forward

00:05:25nor are they investigated.

00:05:27They have a mandate set by the government.

00:05:29If the matter is sub-judicial,

00:05:31is there a discussion on this?

00:05:33Is there a deliberation on this?

00:05:35What is the point?

00:05:37The committee has been formed

00:05:39on the 26th of November.

00:05:41The committee was formed on the 14th of November.

00:05:43Mariam Nawaz Sahiba

00:05:45says that her children

00:05:47were playing in Punjab.

00:05:49She said that you have to play

00:05:51and not play games.

00:05:53If someone says,

00:05:55get out and break the bones of the police and rangers,

00:05:57lock yourself in jail and set the country on fire,

00:05:59then that is our right line.

00:06:01Let us listen to Mariam Nawaz.

00:06:03What does Shibli Faraz say about this?

00:06:05He says that this is a matter of non-study.

00:06:07And his statement is different from the demands.

00:06:09Announce the judicial commission.

00:06:11The discussion will end.

00:06:13Announce it.

00:06:15If the committee is just thinking

00:06:17that you are thinking,

00:06:19when you announce it, we will welcome it.

00:06:21And again, this is not...

00:06:23You should at least give practical evidence

00:06:25of your intentions.

00:06:27The state, the government

00:06:29and the opposition

00:06:31are aware of all these things.

00:06:33They know that

00:06:35this bail is not going to end.

00:06:37If they have made this decision,

00:06:39then they have made this decision

00:06:41keeping in mind

00:06:43the actions of the government

00:06:45and the intention of the government.

00:06:47Let us talk about all this.

00:06:49Senior journalist Mazhar Abbas

00:06:51has joined us.

00:06:53Thank you so much for joining us.

00:06:55If the Prime Minister

00:06:57invites us again,

00:06:59it will not be wrong.

00:07:01Tell me, who needs this discussion

00:07:03the most?

00:07:05Those who have said

00:07:07that they will not sit in this meeting

00:07:09until the conditions are met.

00:07:11Although the discussion is a long process.

00:07:13Only then do you reach a conclusion.

00:07:15Does the government need

00:07:17this discussion?

00:07:19Why does the Prime Minister

00:07:21want this discussion to be initiated?

00:07:25Pakistan needs this discussion

00:07:27the most.

00:07:29If there is a discussion,

00:07:31political stability will be seen.

00:07:33I am not saying that

00:07:35there will be political stability.

00:07:37It will be seen.

00:07:39It leads to an environment

00:07:41where discussions are held

00:07:43in a good environment.

00:07:45The words you just said

00:07:47do not imply that

00:07:49this is the environment

00:07:51where discussions are held.

00:07:53I have been saying since the first day

00:07:55that the discussions have not

00:07:57even started.

00:07:59Neither the PTI

00:08:01is creating an environment

00:08:03for discussions,

00:08:05nor the government.

00:08:07Yesterday, when the Prime Minister

00:08:09spoke, if the Prime Minister

00:08:11wanted to speak,

00:08:13he should have spoken

00:08:15directly to the PTI chairman.

00:08:17He should have called him

00:08:19and communicated with him.

00:08:21When you are saying

00:08:23to form a parliamentary committee

00:08:25and we are ready for discussions

00:08:27and the PTI is running away from it.

00:08:29This sentence,

00:08:31the PTI is running away from it.

00:08:33This sentence does not create

00:08:35an environment.

00:08:37This sentence creates an environment.

00:08:39You gave the speech of Mariam Nawaz.

00:08:41Look at the occasion.

00:08:43I often say

00:08:45that Muslim League

00:08:47friends should come out

00:08:49of the PTI phobia.

00:08:51There is an event of sports.

00:08:53Children are present there.

00:08:55You gave a political speech

00:08:57there.

00:08:59This historical event

00:09:01reflects that

00:09:03you do not want to create

00:09:05that environment.

00:09:07It would have been better

00:09:09to form a judicial commission

00:09:11for the PTI.

00:09:13If you had to talk about

00:09:15the PTI, you would have gone

00:09:17to the negotiations on 28th.

00:09:19You would have asked

00:09:21whether you are forming a judicial commission

00:09:23or not.

00:09:25If you are not forming a judicial commission,

00:09:27then there is no point in negotiating.

00:09:29Mr. Mazhar,

00:09:31do you know from the beginning

00:09:33whether the demands should be written

00:09:35or not,

00:09:37whether the committees should be prepared

00:09:39or not?

00:09:41Judicial commissions have a history

00:09:43I remember during the time of the People's Party,

00:09:4518 judicial commissions were formed.

00:09:47But what was the result?

00:09:49First, insistence on it.

00:09:51Second, seriousness in negotiations.

00:09:53This is KP vs Punjab.

00:09:55If Maryam Nawaz speaks

00:09:57and Mr. Gaddapur speaks,

00:09:59we have been talking about this from the beginning.

00:10:01But it was said that it does not have an impact

00:10:03on negotiations. And it had an impact.

00:10:05Look, the last

00:10:07election commission

00:10:09was formed in 2014.

00:10:11And it was formed

00:10:13as a result of negotiations.

00:10:15When the

00:10:1724-day protest took place,

00:10:19after that you

00:10:21negotiated, and as a result

00:10:23of the negotiations,

00:10:25a commission was formed about the

00:10:27elections of 2013.

00:10:29Mr. Imran Khan agreed to that commission

00:10:31and the government of that time

00:10:33also agreed. Mr. Nawaz Sharif

00:10:35when the findings of that commission came,

00:10:37those findings were also made public.

00:10:39And in those findings it was said

00:10:41that there were a lot of irregularities

00:10:43in the elections, but there was no

00:10:45large-scale rigging.

00:10:47So whatever happened after

00:10:4924 days or 14 days,

00:10:51the same thing could have happened on the first day.

00:10:53During that time,

00:10:55you are talking about

00:10:57the protest of 2014,

00:10:59at that time, Mr. Nawaz Sharif

00:11:01was the Prime Minister. Why didn't he

00:11:03investigate it?

00:11:05Let's investigate it.

00:11:07There was a result of the elections of 2013

00:11:09and as a result,

00:11:11there was a benefit for the government

00:11:13of Muslim League Noon.

00:11:15So today, if you form a judicial commission,

00:11:17whether it is on 9th May

00:11:19or 26th November,

00:11:21you say that the cases of 9th May

00:11:23will be made in the courts on 26th November.

00:11:25I said that an environment

00:11:27is being created.

00:11:29So, agree to one thing.

00:11:31But Mr. Imran Khan,

00:11:33in the protest of that time,

00:11:35it was a protest of Noon League,

00:11:37but the PTI was supported from somewhere else.

00:11:39Is the PTI in that

00:11:41position now?

00:11:43We saw that after 26th November.

00:11:45Obviously, the leadership is in jail

00:11:47and there is enough confusion.

00:11:49Look, you are talking about 2014

00:11:51behind it. That is why

00:11:53a commission is made.

00:11:55You are talking about 2014

00:11:57that there was some other force behind it.

00:11:59The Prime Minister was

00:12:01Mr. Nawaz Sharif,

00:12:03the Army Chief General was Raheel Sharif.

00:12:05And there was a conversation between them.

00:12:07If you remember,

00:12:09that historical picture,

00:12:11in which Imran Khan was walking

00:12:13and there was a conversation going on in the

00:12:15Prime Minister's house.

00:12:17And the conversation was getting longer

00:12:19in which there were many news,

00:12:21many discussions.

00:12:23In that entire conversation,

00:12:25the Prime Minister

00:12:27did not say anywhere

00:12:29that who is holding this

00:12:31I am saying again that

00:12:33when the first day was discussed,

00:12:35if you had made the environment

00:12:37at that time, then

00:12:39there would have been no

00:12:41Model Town incident and

00:12:43there would have been no

00:12:45114-day protest.

00:12:47Mr. Mazhar, this is a political statement

00:12:49that the Prime Minister gave that

00:12:51if you want to make a committee,

00:12:53then you want a judicial commission,

00:12:55then you should talk about the 2014 protest.

00:12:57Secondly, tell me,

00:12:59why are there so many negotiations?

00:13:29I have said that

00:13:31on one hand,

00:13:33you are still talking about

00:13:35running a united movement.

00:13:37That is your right,

00:13:39the right of political parties.

00:13:41In the last one and a half years,

00:13:43the movement justice did a solo flight.

00:13:45And as a result of that solo flight,

00:13:47they are now realizing that

00:13:49100% loss is theirs.

00:13:51Yesterday, Imran Khan

00:13:53has also written a letter.

00:13:55He has done a lot of things in that letter.

00:13:57I am just saying that

00:13:59unfortunately,

00:14:01there are no middlemen

00:14:03among us.

00:14:05I am not talking about

00:14:07those people whom Imran Khan

00:14:09or other people talk about

00:14:11in the way of justice.

00:14:13Can Maulana play any role in this?

00:14:15No, there are some mediators.

00:14:17There are some seniors.

00:14:19People like Mushahid Hussain,

00:14:21even Khawaja Saad Rafiq,

00:14:23who are from the Muslim League,

00:14:25but they have a separate respect.

00:14:27There are some people from the

00:14:29People's Party,

00:14:31people like Khurshid Shah.

00:14:33Those who can play that role,

00:14:35they should go and talk

00:14:37to Tehreek-e-Insaf's

00:14:39joking team.

00:14:41They should create an atmosphere.

00:14:43What is the first point of that atmosphere?

00:14:45That statements against each other

00:14:47will not be issued from both sides

00:14:49until there is no outcome of jokes.

00:14:51So, they can start again.

00:14:53One factor in this is that

00:14:55for example,

00:14:57Maulana has just started a conversation.

00:14:59But there is no guarantee

00:15:01that Gandapur will not give any statement.

00:15:03Do you think that the process

00:15:05will move forward based on their history?

00:15:07Secondly, in negotiations,

00:15:09some take and some give.

00:15:11What can the government give

00:15:13to Tehreek-e-Insaf at this time?

00:15:15What can the government get

00:15:17from Tehreek-e-Insaf?

00:15:19The government can give

00:15:21to Tehreek-e-Insaf.

00:15:23The government can give to people

00:15:25who are not involved in such

00:15:27serious cases.

00:15:29And the government knows

00:15:31who are not involved in serious cases.

00:15:33For them, the government says

00:15:35that we will release these people.

00:15:37There are ways to do that.

00:15:39There is a legal way to release them.

00:15:41What can Tehreek-e-Insaf do?

00:15:43Tehreek-e-Insaf should

00:15:45issue a statement

00:15:47to Bani PTI

00:15:49and tell them that

00:15:51till the time these negotiations are going on,

00:15:53no government,

00:15:55Muslim League,

00:15:57or anyone else will give

00:15:59any serious statement.

00:16:01No one will talk like this.

00:16:03And it is waited for.

00:16:05When PNA Tehreek was going on in 1977,

00:16:07the Tehreek stopped

00:16:09till the time the negotiations were going on.

00:16:11Although at that time, people were killed,

00:16:13they were on the streets,

00:16:15there were curfews.

00:16:17When the negotiations started,

00:16:19all those things were stopped.

00:16:21Till the time the negotiations

00:16:23are successful,

00:16:25or otherwise fail.

00:16:27So we saw that an environment was created.

00:16:29The government also created an environment.

00:16:31Many people were released.

00:16:35The big leaders

00:16:37were shifted to a guest house.

00:16:39And in that guest house,

00:16:41they would meet each other

00:16:43and then negotiate with the government.

00:16:45The leadership of which

00:16:47was the Prime Minister of that time,

00:16:49Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto.

00:16:51There were so many serious negotiations.

00:16:53Why didn't Shahbaz Sharif

00:16:55become the head of that negotiation team?

00:16:57He could have talked.

00:16:59And from there also,

00:17:01he could have released Shah Mahmood Qureshi

00:17:03for negotiations.

00:17:05He could have shifted Imran Khan

00:17:07to a guest house,

00:17:09and Shah Mahmood Qureshi,

00:17:11and some of his leaders.

00:17:13But that environment was not created

00:17:15from the first day.

00:17:17Tariq-e-Insaab,

00:17:19that we are still negotiating,

00:17:21and you have announced the

00:17:23negotiation of civil disobedience.

00:17:25This historian was telling

00:17:27that negotiations will not start.

00:17:29This historian was telling

00:17:31that they don't want to create

00:17:33that environment for negotiations.

00:17:35The head of the same negotiation team,

00:17:37Irfan Siddiqui,

00:17:39is sitting in a TV talk show every other day.

00:17:41So, obviously,

00:17:43those negotiations will start

00:17:45from the other side.

00:17:47The political statements will be made.

00:17:49Thank you very much.

00:17:51Whenever we talk to Mr. Mazhar,

00:17:53we get to learn

00:17:55a lot of lessons from him.

00:17:57He summarizes everything very well

00:17:59and tells us that

00:18:01when negotiations were tried in the past,

00:18:03how were the serious efforts?

00:18:05How were they?

00:18:07For example,

00:18:09when I am giving a statement,

00:18:11the political statements will be made

00:18:13because it has an impact.

00:18:15We were talking from the beginning

00:18:17about its impact.

00:18:19At that time, he used to say

00:18:21that the environment in the committees

00:18:23is very good,

00:18:25but what is happening outside

00:18:27is happening in its place.

00:18:29Yesterday, I was talking to

00:18:31Mr. Kamran Murtaza.

00:18:33He was saying that

00:18:35Mr. Ali Amin Gandapur

00:18:37used to say that

00:18:39this is what is happening now.

00:18:41Exactly.

00:18:43Let's move ahead.

00:18:45A big issue that we have discussed

00:18:47before is that

00:18:49measures were taken

00:18:51to stop Pakistani beggars.

00:18:53Do you remember

00:18:55how many Pakistanis were told

00:18:57to go outside,

00:18:59especially in Saudi Arabia,

00:19:01and beg?

00:19:03Yes, as a profession.

00:19:05A reform bill has been presented

00:19:07in the Senate regarding this issue.

00:19:09Under the reform bill,

00:19:11it has been declared

00:19:13as fraud to ask for

00:19:15regular begging.

00:19:17This means that

00:19:19begging means

00:19:21taking charity

00:19:23out of greed.

00:19:25Do you know that

00:19:27the Sindh High Court has decided

00:19:29regarding this issue

00:19:31in Karachi?

00:19:33Yes.

00:19:35When we go out of our country,

00:19:37we are ambassadors of our country.

00:19:39We represent our country.

00:19:41If a non-Pakistani

00:19:43says that

00:19:45this is how Pakistanis are,

00:19:47what impact will it have

00:19:49on other people

00:19:51who earn their livelihood

00:19:53with dignity?

00:19:55According to the bill,

00:19:57regular begging means

00:19:59asking for charity

00:20:01to show one's fate

00:20:03and to show one's duty.

00:20:05Begging is also

00:20:07regular begging.

00:20:09For begging,

00:20:11you will be imprisoned

00:20:13for 7 years and

00:20:15will be fined 10 lakh rupees.

00:20:17You will be forced to

00:20:19clean the windows of cars.

00:20:21You will be forced to

00:20:23roam around without

00:20:25a job.

00:20:27This is also

00:20:29going to be very strict.

00:20:31Yes.

00:20:33If you are roaming around

00:20:35without a job,

00:20:37you can be affected.

00:20:39Please take care of yourself.

00:20:41Hold this.

00:20:43Okay.

00:20:45What is happening

00:20:47in Karachi?

00:20:49People's Party and MQM Pakistan

00:20:51have come face to face.

00:20:53This is a delayed reaction.

00:20:55Chairman of MQM Pakistan

00:20:57was saying that this is a

00:20:59homeopathic reaction.

00:21:01Mr. Bilawal said this

00:21:03when he was talking to the merchants.

00:21:05You should not have complained.

00:21:07Why should we?

00:21:09Two days later,

00:21:11MQM was released.

00:21:13Khalid Makbul Siddiqui says

00:21:15that the Sindh government

00:21:17has threatened the

00:21:19merchants of Karachi.

00:21:21They have complained.

00:21:23Look at the press conference.

00:21:25They are selling water and building control

00:21:27at the government level.

00:21:29Mustafa Kamal said that the merchants

00:21:31have been given a message.

00:21:33No one can put pressure on anyone.

00:21:35Listen to what he is saying.

00:21:37Let's talk about this.

00:21:39The Sindh government's translator

00:21:41Sadia Javed is with us.

00:21:43Sadia, thank you very much

00:21:45for talking to us.

00:21:47MQM has been your opponent.

00:21:49They have given a reaction

00:21:51which is in front of you.

00:21:53Chinese companies are also

00:21:55complaining about this.

00:21:57When your merchants

00:21:59are expressing their concerns

00:22:01and Mr. Bilawal's

00:22:03notice is given,

00:22:05it means that something is wrong.

00:22:07Something is really wrong.

00:22:09This issue should be addressed.

00:22:11What is wrong with what MQM

00:22:13is highlighting?

00:22:15Thank you, Sadaf.

00:22:17First of all,

00:22:19good morning to your viewers

00:22:21and to both of you.

00:22:23Sadaf,

00:22:25the Pakistan People's Party

00:22:27has not engaged

00:22:29the merchants for the first time.

00:22:31If you look at the speech

00:22:33of the merchants' leaders

00:22:35in that event,

00:22:37they continuously

00:22:39said that

00:22:41when Benazir Bhutto

00:22:43was with us

00:22:45when he was Prime Minister

00:22:47or in the opposition,

00:22:49he was engaged.

00:22:51When President Zardari

00:22:53became President last time,

00:22:55he was engaged

00:22:57continuously

00:22:59especially with the

00:23:01businessmen of Karachi.

00:23:03They were in constant contact.

00:23:05Similarly,

00:23:07we have interaction

00:23:09with Mr. Bilawal Bhutto

00:23:11but it is less.

00:23:13We want this interaction

00:23:15to be as much as possible.

00:23:17Can we call it

00:23:19interaction?

00:23:25No.

00:23:27Do you remember

00:23:29that there was a report

00:23:31that the army chief came

00:23:33and the merchants of Karachi

00:23:35complained to him.

00:23:37The merchants who complained

00:23:39were present there.

00:23:41In the Shahiya

00:23:43that was given,

00:23:45he told us about the issues

00:23:47that these issues

00:23:49are facing us.

00:23:51For this,

00:23:53if you see the clip

00:23:55of his speech,

00:23:57he told the CM

00:23:59that you should

00:24:01establish a cell immediately

00:24:03especially for the business community

00:24:05to monitor

00:24:07and remove any complaints.

00:24:09Secondly,

00:24:11when you told the Chinese

00:24:13investors to go to court,

00:24:15I was the only

00:24:17spokesperson

00:24:19who came on TV

00:24:21when this case happened.

00:24:23I said

00:24:25that the Chinese

00:24:27have gone to court

00:24:29but an SOP

00:24:31has been decided

00:24:33between the government

00:24:35and the Chinese government.

00:24:37We monitor

00:24:39through the embassy.

00:24:41If there is a complaint

00:24:43from an individual,

00:24:45he had accused the police

00:24:47and the police department.

00:24:49I said that

00:24:51if there is a complaint

00:24:53from an individual,

00:24:55he should take the name

00:24:57and the same thing

00:24:59was said by the business community.

00:25:01But Sadiya, what is going on here?

00:25:03First of all, Bilawal

00:25:05said a lot of things

00:25:07and you mentioned them.

00:25:09What is the modus operandi

00:25:11and how is it being addressed?

00:25:13That is something else.

00:25:15The way Sadaf talked

00:25:17and the way we are talking,

00:25:19that means there are issues.

00:25:21If the matter reached Bilawal,

00:25:23it means that it was bypassed

00:25:25by the Sindh government

00:25:27and reached somewhere else.

00:25:29Why is this not being addressed?

00:25:31We are not criticizing.

00:25:33We just want to know what the issue is.

00:25:35Why is there a communication gap

00:25:37I don't think there is a communication gap

00:25:39between the traders

00:25:41and the Sindh government.

00:25:43Because Murad Ali Shah

00:25:45admitted himself

00:25:47that two weeks ago

00:25:49he met Murad Ali Shah

00:25:51and we told him

00:25:53everything.

00:25:55If I talk about

00:25:57the press conference

00:25:59yesterday,

00:26:01If we talk about the traders,

00:26:03you are saying that there is no communication gap.

00:26:05This means that

00:26:07things were communicated

00:26:09and either the minister could not do it

00:26:11or he did not have the authority

00:26:13or he did not pay attention

00:26:15to reach Bilawal.

00:26:17No, Bilawal himself

00:26:19bypassed them.

00:26:21He did not go to Bilawal.

00:26:23Bilawal himself

00:26:25invited them.

00:26:27The meeting with Ahsan Iqbal

00:26:29where he asked

00:26:31Mariam to give it to him

00:26:33He first gave a statement

00:26:35and then he

00:26:37backtracked his statement.

00:26:39I am a witness

00:26:41to his statement

00:26:43of the traders.

00:26:45He backtracked his statement

00:26:47in 15-20 minutes.

00:26:49He took a U-turn.

00:26:51Mr. Ateeq Mir

00:26:53said that

00:26:55he will not do it.

00:26:57I was joking.

00:26:59I was joking.

00:27:01It is not possible.

00:27:03As far as

00:27:05MQM is concerned,

00:27:07everyone knows

00:27:09and I have said this before

00:27:11that it does not seem appropriate

00:27:13that the People's Party

00:27:15has managed to establish

00:27:17in Karachi with great difficulty.

00:27:19The situation in this city

00:27:21before 2008,

00:27:23the situation in this city

00:27:25before 2013,

00:27:27the operation started in September 2013

00:27:29and then things got settled.

00:27:31Yes, after that

00:27:33things started to improve

00:27:35and today Karachi

00:27:37which was destroyed

00:27:39in the 80s

00:27:41after 2013

00:27:43Karachi started to

00:27:45flourish.

00:27:47Business activities

00:27:49started here.

00:27:51I don't want

00:27:53MQM's

00:27:55press conference to

00:27:57be in Karachi.

00:27:59He is no longer a major stakeholder

00:28:01of Karachi.

00:28:03When he becomes irrelevant,

00:28:05he criticizes

00:28:07Chairman Pakistan People's Party

00:28:09Bilawal Bhutto Zardari

00:28:11and the People's Party

00:28:13and tries to increase his position.

00:28:15At times, it is said

00:28:17who is saying it.

00:28:19At times, it is also said

00:28:21what he is saying.

00:28:23I am saying that

00:28:25who is saying it.

00:28:27If we pay attention to what he is saying,

00:28:29if it is a valid point,

00:28:31it is easy to say that he is

00:28:33a major stakeholder.

00:28:35Ashfaq, you also heard

00:28:37the speech of

00:28:39Chairman Pakistan People's Party.

00:28:41Tell me, where did they

00:28:43start?

00:28:45Where did they talk about hooliganism?

00:28:47Didn't I know that in KKF,

00:28:49they used to call people,

00:28:51close the shops and

00:28:53forcefully go and

00:28:55take money from factories.

00:28:57We remember the past.

00:28:59But one thing that Ashfaq

00:29:01wants to highlight is that

00:29:03you also talked about the Chinese

00:29:05traders and the firm.

00:29:07You said that the application

00:29:09should be given through a process.

00:29:11We are not talking about legality here.

00:29:13We are not talking about who is

00:29:15talking.

00:29:17We are talking about issues.

00:29:19Whoever highlights those issues,

00:29:21they are present in reality.

00:29:23The traders were also complaining

00:29:25and talking to Mr. Bilawal.

00:29:27Why isn't that sorted out?

00:29:29No, look,

00:29:31whatever they have complained about,

00:29:33there is a shortage of water

00:29:35in Karachi.

00:29:37We have

00:29:39invited the traders

00:29:41because

00:29:43Sindh is the only province in Pakistan

00:29:45where the

00:29:47PPP mode is being used.

00:29:49We have invited the traders

00:29:51to bring investors from outside.

00:29:53This city belongs to

00:29:55the Sindh government,

00:29:57the PPP,

00:29:59and all political parties.

00:30:01It is your stake as well.

00:30:03So you should come forward.

00:30:05You should do something for this city.

00:30:07So what is the follow-up

00:30:09for the traders?

00:30:11Look,

00:30:13the follow-up is that

00:30:15the CM has been told by

00:30:17the People's Party

00:30:19to meet them on a regular basis,

00:30:21to give them

00:30:23a one-window operation,

00:30:25and to remove

00:30:27any complaints.

00:30:29The traders have also been told

00:30:31to contribute

00:30:33to the construction

00:30:35and development of this city.

00:30:37Because this city

00:30:39is the heart of Pakistan.

00:30:41It is a mini-Pakistan.

00:30:43Not just one nation lives here.

00:30:45The whole of Pakistan lives here.

00:30:47We all have to

00:30:49think about this city together.

00:30:51If we say that

00:30:53an individual can solve the problem,

00:30:55then he cannot.

00:30:57Obviously, everyone has to meet.

00:30:59Sadia, one more question.

00:31:01When we talk about Karachi,

00:31:03this is not a matter of the traders.

00:31:05It is a matter of the students.

00:31:07There is a protest against the

00:31:09Transformation Act.

00:31:11Universities are closed.

00:31:13The problem

00:31:15with the universities

00:31:17is that

00:31:19the Universities and Board

00:31:21of the CM

00:31:23have their own

00:31:25pen and paper.

00:31:27We are bringing

00:31:29the Transformation Act.

00:31:31Any law is brought

00:31:33for its improvement.

00:31:35This Act was

00:31:37passed in 1974.

00:31:39Transformation is being brought.

00:31:41I think

00:31:43the Academies

00:31:45should focus more on

00:31:47education and education.

00:31:49Administrative powers

00:31:51or

00:31:53bureaucracy

00:31:55should not be

00:31:57a part of it.

00:31:59I don't think it will make a difference.

00:32:01You must have received education.

00:32:03We have also gone through

00:32:05the education and education process.

00:32:07Our experience or yours

00:32:09would not have been the same.

00:32:11It was the professors

00:32:13who were responsible

00:32:15for the administration.

00:32:17The clerical staff

00:32:19and the

00:32:21educational staff

00:32:23had a different

00:32:25behavior.

00:32:27We have seen

00:32:29this since childhood.

00:32:31We have already seen

00:32:33the situation of the

00:32:35Educational Board.

00:32:37You have appointed

00:32:39the chairmen on an

00:32:41ad-hoc basis.

00:32:43I am sure that

00:32:45it will be difficult

00:32:47to transfer the chairmen

00:32:49from one place to another.

00:32:51How did this happen?

00:32:53It is not like that.

00:32:59In Sindh and other

00:33:01universities,

00:33:03the bureaucrats

00:33:05have not served as VCs.

00:33:07In Sindh,

00:33:09Mazhar Siddiqui

00:33:11was a bureaucrat.

00:33:13He managed

00:33:15Sindh University very well.

00:33:17It is not like that.

00:33:19Obviously,

00:33:21when something is done

00:33:23on such a large scale,

00:33:25the repercussions

00:33:27may be wrong.

00:33:29The stakeholders

00:33:31are being engaged.

00:33:33We have

00:33:35given them

00:33:37a very limited scope.

00:33:39They have to see

00:33:41what their goal is,

00:33:43how far they can go.

00:33:45They become HODs

00:33:47and then become

00:33:49VCs.

00:33:51They are the best

00:33:53in their field.

00:33:55If you limit them

00:33:57to one place,

00:33:59you have closed

00:34:01the gap.

00:34:03It is not like that.

00:34:05It is not written in the law

00:34:07that no VCs

00:34:09will be appointed from Academia.

00:34:11It is not written

00:34:13in the law.

00:34:15If there is

00:34:17a better option

00:34:19from the bureaucrats

00:34:21or Academia,

00:34:23then...

00:34:25That is up for debate.

00:34:27It is possible that

00:34:29the VCs will be appointed

00:34:31from Academia.

00:34:33It is not like that.

00:34:35The academic performance

00:34:37will be checked

00:34:39and then the VCs will be appointed.

00:34:41We will not be cruel

00:34:43to the educators.

00:34:45The VCs

00:34:47will be made

00:34:49and the academic qualifications

00:34:51will be checked.

00:34:53Who can be better

00:34:55than the teachers or professors?

00:34:57I am saying that

00:34:59if the professors

00:35:01from Academia

00:35:03are sent to other departments

00:35:05based on their skills,

00:35:07education and experience,

00:35:09then no one will be left

00:35:11because they are the most learned

00:35:13people I have ever seen.

00:35:15You are right.

00:35:17It is possible that

00:35:19the people from Academia

00:35:21can head an institution

00:35:23based on their specialization.

00:35:25There is nothing wrong with that.

00:35:27It happens a lot

00:35:29that people

00:35:31take early retirements

00:35:33and they are

00:35:35adjusted elsewhere.

00:35:37So, it is not like that.

00:35:39It is not like that.

00:35:41But it is your suggestion

00:35:43and we will not

00:35:45take any decision

00:35:47that will

00:35:49affect the educational system

00:35:51of Sindh.

00:35:53Our personal experience

00:35:55has become a long topic.

00:35:57One thing is access.

00:35:59In our government offices,

00:36:01it is very difficult

00:36:03to meet the teachers

00:36:05and professors.

00:36:07It is very difficult.

00:36:09I am saying this

00:36:11because you have your own experience

00:36:13and you know that

00:36:15professors and principals

00:36:17are always very accessible.

00:36:19If there is one issue

00:36:21it will end.

00:36:23It would be bad for the students as well.

00:36:25We don't think so, but it will happen.

00:36:27You are right.

00:36:29Some bureaucrats

00:36:31are not

00:36:33very

00:36:35people friendly.

00:36:37If they

00:36:39go to a university,

00:36:41they are definitely

00:36:43for the students.

00:36:45But you should

00:36:47keep this in mind.

00:36:49The Sindh government

00:36:51will not take any action

00:36:53that will affect the system.

00:36:55If we feel that

00:36:57there is room for amendments

00:36:59in the law.

00:37:01It is not like

00:37:03a law has been made

00:37:05and it has become a Quranic scripture

00:37:07and it cannot be changed.

00:37:09If we feel that the law making

00:37:11is wrong, then we can correct it.

00:37:13Let's hope for the best.

00:37:15We have seen a lot.

00:37:17Thank you so much.

00:37:19We will talk to the stakeholders.

00:37:21But we have the example of the PICA Act.

00:37:23Today, the press is protesting.

00:37:25Sharmila was telling me that

00:37:27even if it is signed,

00:37:29it can be amended.

00:37:31But even if it is signed,

00:37:33it is a bill.

00:37:35It can be amended.

00:37:37Let's go.

00:37:39We will be back after the break.

00:37:47Welcome back once again.

00:37:49Everyone has a mobile phone.

00:37:51Everyone wants to make videos,

00:37:53reels and stories.

00:37:55But regarding TikTok,

00:37:57sometimes, most of the time,

00:37:59there are such news

00:38:01that cause a lot of trouble.

00:38:03There is another news.

00:38:05While making a TikTok video

00:38:07in Lahore's Shahad Bagh,

00:38:09a young man died of a bullet wound.

00:38:11His name is Abdul Rehman.

00:38:13Before this, in Lahore,

00:38:15in September 2024,

00:38:17TikTok was being made.

00:38:19A bullet was fired.

00:38:21The young man was shot in the eye.

00:38:23He was seriously injured.

00:38:25The police arrested his close friend

00:38:27Ahmed along with the rifle.

00:38:29Do you remember the story of a bride?

00:38:31You came to know that the bullet

00:38:33was fired from someone else.

00:38:35But initially, it was said that

00:38:37TikTok was being made.

00:38:39Later, it was found that

00:38:41it was not TikTok.

00:38:43When we talk about Punjab,

00:38:45we comparatively say that

00:38:47the police system is fine.

00:38:49But these weapons are everywhere.

00:38:51These TikTokers

00:38:53don't understand anything.

00:38:55They risk their lives.

00:38:57This incident is not new.

00:38:59But what details have been found?

00:39:01Is this the same thing

00:39:03that is being reported?

00:39:07Sateeb, this incident

00:39:09is four days old.

00:39:11He is a resident of Ichhra.

00:39:13He is 20 years old.

00:39:15He has gone to his grandmother's

00:39:17house in Shahad Bagh.

00:39:19He was making TikTok

00:39:21and was shot by a bullet.

00:39:23He was killed on the spot.

00:39:25After this, the police

00:39:27did not even investigate

00:39:29whether this pistol was licensed

00:39:31or someone else gave it to him.

00:39:33He is a 20-year-old young man.

00:39:35He is roaming around with a pistol.

00:39:37He went from Ichhra to Shahad Bagh

00:39:39with a pistol.

00:39:41No one checked him.

00:39:43Who was making his TikTok video?

00:39:45The police did not investigate.

00:39:47The police did not understand anything.

00:39:49The police gave a statement

00:39:51and closed this case.

00:39:53If the police had investigated

00:39:55where this pistol came from,

00:39:57whether it was licensed

00:39:59or not,

00:40:01the police would not have

00:40:03investigated it.

00:40:05There have been many incidents like this.

00:40:07You can buy a gun

00:40:09from a gun dealer

00:40:11wherever you want.

00:40:13The police

00:40:15committed suicide.

00:40:17What did his family

00:40:19say about this case?

00:40:21His family

00:40:23said that

00:40:25they did not know

00:40:27that he was shot by a bullet.

00:40:29He was lying dead.

00:40:31They are making TikTok

00:40:33to get views.

00:40:35The young generation

00:40:37is being destroyed.

00:40:39They are making

00:40:41such videos

00:40:43that the young generation

00:40:45is following them.

00:40:47They are making TikTok

00:40:49to get more views.

00:40:51Why are these weapons

00:40:53being used?

00:40:55The police did not

00:40:57investigate

00:40:59whether it was licensed

00:41:01or not.

00:41:03There are

00:41:05many shops in Lahore

00:41:07where gun dealers

00:41:09sell guns

00:41:11but it is not

00:41:13check and balance.

00:41:15If they have a license

00:41:17to sell 1000 bullets,

00:41:19they sell 20,000 bullets.

00:41:21If they have a license

00:41:23to sell 10 pistols,

00:41:25they sell a lot of guns.

00:41:27The police

00:41:29claims that

00:41:31they are operating

00:41:33against gun dealers.

00:41:35They start

00:41:37shooting

00:41:39when there is

00:41:41a gun fight.

00:41:43When there is

00:41:45a gun fight,

00:41:47they start

00:41:49shooting

00:41:51when there is

00:41:53a gun fight.

00:41:55They start

00:41:57shooting

00:41:59when there is

00:42:01a gun fight.

00:42:03They start

00:42:05shooting

00:42:07when there is

00:42:09a gun fight.

00:42:11They start

00:42:13shooting

00:42:15when there is

00:42:17a gun fight.

00:42:19They start

00:42:21shooting

00:42:23when there is

00:42:25a gun fight.

00:42:27They start

00:42:29shooting

00:42:31when there is

00:42:33a gun fight.

00:42:35They start

00:42:37shooting

00:42:39when there is

00:42:41a gun fight.

00:42:43They start

00:42:45shooting

00:42:47when there is

00:42:49a gun fight.

00:42:51They start

00:42:53shooting

00:42:55when there is

00:42:57a gun fight.

00:42:59They start

00:43:01shooting

00:43:03when there is

00:43:05a gun fight.

00:43:07They start

00:43:09shooting

00:43:11when there is

00:43:13a gun fight.

00:43:15They start

00:43:17shooting

00:43:19when there is

00:43:21a gun fight.

00:43:23They start

00:43:25shooting

00:43:27when there is

00:43:29a gun fight.

00:43:31They start

00:43:33shooting

00:43:35when there is

00:43:37a gun fight.

00:43:39They start

00:43:41shooting

00:43:43when there is

00:43:45a gun fight.

00:43:47They start

00:43:49shooting

00:43:51when there is

00:43:53a gun fight.

00:43:55They start

00:43:57shooting

00:43:59when there is

00:44:01a gun fight.

00:44:03They start

00:44:05shooting

00:44:07when there is

00:44:09a gun fight.

00:44:11They start

00:44:13shooting

00:44:15when there is

00:44:17a gun fight.

00:44:19They start

00:44:21shooting

00:44:23when there is

00:44:25a gun fight.

00:44:27They start

00:44:29shooting

00:44:31when there is

00:44:33a gun fight.

00:44:35They start

00:44:37shooting

00:44:39when there is

00:44:41a gun fight.

00:44:43They start

00:44:45shooting

00:44:47when there is

00:44:49a gun fight.

00:44:51They start

00:44:53shooting

00:44:55when there is

00:44:57a gun fight.

00:44:59They start

00:45:01shooting

00:45:03when there is

00:45:05a gun fight.

00:45:07They start

00:45:09shooting

00:45:11when there is

00:45:13a gun fight.

00:45:15They start

00:45:17shooting

00:45:19when there is

00:45:21a gun fight.

00:45:23They start

00:45:25shooting

00:45:27when there is

00:45:29a gun fight.

00:45:31They start

00:45:33shooting

00:45:35when there is

00:45:37a gun fight.

00:45:39They start

00:45:41shooting

00:45:43when there is

00:45:45a gun fight.

00:46:13She's 33, she has two kids.

00:46:16She's asking for $3,000 a week.

00:46:19Believe me, even in America this amount is not less.

00:46:22True.

00:46:23Do you understand?

00:46:24Meaning $3,000 a week, $12,000 a month.

00:46:27These are good people's jobs.

00:46:28They don't get this money so easily.

00:46:30And I don't think so that this is a case of human compassion.

00:46:33She was mature enough.

00:46:35American embassy.

00:46:36Her citizenship is American.

00:46:38Her embassy is standing with her.

00:46:40The governor of Sindh gives her a ticket and tells the government to leave.

00:46:46But she's not leaving.

00:46:47The law will apply somewhere.

00:46:50I'll give you another example.

00:46:52You just have to see that when her visa expires, it will be extended again.

00:47:00Or she will be deported.

00:47:02Secondly, I spoke to IG Sindh yesterday.

00:47:05She said that she spoke to the American embassy and the minister of immigration.

00:47:12To solve this issue.

00:47:14Because where she was, there was a security risk.

00:47:17This is a big problem.

00:47:18So now they are trying to solve this issue.

00:47:21Thank you so much.

00:47:22Let's go.

00:47:30In the name of God, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.

00:47:31Peace be upon you.

00:47:33Muskurat-e-Bakhabar Sabera.

00:47:35We are here with you once again.

00:47:37Today is a blessed Friday.

00:47:39And on Fridays, the smile on our faces is very beautiful.

00:47:43And we want you to keep smiling.

00:47:45Despite the fact that the cold is over.

00:47:48Karachi is over.

00:47:50We have accepted the fact that no more spells will come.

00:47:55What if it comes?

00:47:56What if it doesn't come?

00:47:58I think it will come.

00:47:59Are you sure it will come?

00:48:01When it comes, there is a slight shock.

00:48:03Now it has happened.

00:48:04When the flame starts to go out, there is a lot of vibration.

00:48:06But if you haven't seen our segment from 9 to 10, then you can watch it on YouTube.

00:48:12You can go back and watch our live streaming.

00:48:15There are so many ways.

00:48:17There are a lot of options on YouTube.

00:48:19Okay.

00:48:20So, since Trump has come, he has done a lot of things.

00:48:24On the first day, he issued 78 executive orders.

00:48:27Then he also denied Biden's orders.

00:48:30Yesterday, we also talked about Tariqeen-e-Watan.

00:48:34He said that those who are involved in any crime, even theft, will be sent to Guantanamo.

00:48:40Guantanamo Bay.

00:48:41Now think about it.

00:48:42Where is Guantanamo Bay?

00:48:44In Cuba.

00:48:45He wants that if 28,000 or whatever the numbers are, even if they leave, they can go to Havana.

00:48:51The rest of the Cubans can smoke.

00:48:53But they can't come back to America.

00:48:55Now there is a lot of noise about it.

00:48:57First of all, how can people be sent to the jail that has been said to be closed 300 years ago, including Trump?

00:49:05Now think about how vocal they have been in this regard.

00:49:09Now their policies...

00:49:10And people voted for them.

00:49:11Yes.

00:49:12On this basis, the Americans have also voted for them.

00:49:14Now we are seeing their policy in action.

00:49:18The first phase was there.

00:49:20Now this first law has come in the second phase.

00:49:22According to this, approximately 30,000 illegal immigrants will be sent to Guantanamo Bay Jail.

00:49:29Now what is happening?

00:49:31Not only that, the American administration has also decided to approve the visas of the students who demonstrated in support of Palestine.

00:49:40So they are going to sign on an executive order.

00:49:44We will talk about this.

00:49:45We have with us the former ambassador of America and Pakistan, Mr. Masood Khalid.

00:49:49Thank you so much, sir, for taking out time for us.

00:49:52Obviously, we are talking about this.

00:49:54This is happening there as well.

00:49:56Obviously, we have also seen tears on the matter of Selena Gomez.

00:50:00But one thing that we agree on is that the American people...

00:50:04This slogan is not something that they have hidden or covered up.

00:50:08These slogans have been there from the beginning.

00:50:10And on the basis of these slogans, the American people voted for them.

00:50:13So your thoughts, what they were saying, they are doing.

00:50:16What impact will it have?

00:50:18Especially if we look at the contribution of immigrants in GDP, etc.

00:50:25First of all, I would like to thank you.

00:50:27I have never been an ambassador of Pakistan in America.

00:50:30I was an ambassador of Pakistan in China.

00:50:33As far as your question is concerned, you are absolutely right.

00:50:40During their election campaign, they made all these commitments and pledges.

00:50:46That I will do this, I will do that.

00:50:48Now a new film has started running there.

00:50:51In which they have created a stir.

00:50:55There is a protest.

00:50:57And people are obviously very restless there.

00:51:01There is a lot of resistance to the deportations of immigrants and illegal immigrants.

00:51:06And it is especially important that the Western Hemisphere.

00:51:10That is, the Latin American and Central American countries.

00:51:13They are traditionally considered part of the American camp.

00:51:17Like Panama or Colombia.

00:51:19They are very much part of the US sphere of influence.

00:51:25Now these things are happening against them there.

00:51:29And the people of that area who speak Spanish are being affected by it.

00:51:35It is said that there are about 11 million deputies who will be sent abroad.

00:51:41Colombia has also resisted.

00:51:43Panama is resisting. Guatemala is resisting.

00:51:46Their alienation is spreading towards America.

00:51:50But Mr. Masood, will it be easy?

00:51:53Because there are a lot of human rights organizations there.

00:51:56This matter was also heard in their Supreme Court that this issue is also being highlighted from there.

00:52:02So do you think they will be able to do it?

00:52:05Although the US president has a lot of power and authority.

00:52:08Yes, there are many things that they will not be able to do.

00:52:12And in the next three to six months it will be realized.

00:52:16Even on a foreign policy front or a domestic front.

00:52:20These promises were made to them.

00:52:22These solemn things were said.

00:52:24It will be difficult to do half of them.

00:52:26And you are right.

00:52:29The judiciary has also taken progress on some issues.

00:52:33And has also issued orders.

00:52:35Like the issue of childbirth.

00:52:38So they will have difficulties.

00:52:41Similarly, if you look at the foreign policy front.

00:52:44They left a feeler from Gaza.

00:52:48That the Palestinians should be transferred to Egypt first.

00:52:53And Jordan should be transferred.

00:52:55Now, Egypt and Jordan are also considered to be in the American camp.

00:52:59They are very close to America.

00:53:01But they have also strongly reacted to it and resisted it.

00:53:05Even France has made a statement on this.

00:53:08He is behaving like a world dictator.

00:53:11Meaning, he is telling that country to do this and that.

00:53:14It seems that all the countries are under him.

00:53:17And they have to follow their orders.

00:53:19So I don't think so that how will their policy go ahead.

00:53:23Secondly, the students.

00:53:25And we know that in the US, UK and Europe.

00:53:28There was a lot of protest in support of the Palestinians.

00:53:31Especially the young generation.

00:53:33Which we call Gen Z.

00:53:34They even came to a survey.

00:53:36In which they voted in support of Hamas.

00:53:38Versus Israel.

00:53:40Now they say that their visas will be approved.

00:53:43So much anger, so much retaliation.

00:53:45And that too against the young generation.

00:53:48What is going to happen in America?

00:53:50Yes, look.

00:53:51American politics is moving towards protest.

00:53:55I hope that he will be able to.

00:53:57Look.

00:53:58Their ideology is to do such things.

00:54:02Threats, intimidation, threats.

00:54:06Such things.

00:54:07Posts.

00:54:08This is their ideology.

00:54:11All seem to be like this.

00:54:13In the cabinet.

00:54:14And those who are in the back.

00:54:16President's behavior is also like this.

00:54:18First give threats.

00:54:20Threaten.

00:54:21If it works with force.

00:54:23But many things can't be done.

00:54:25As far as the students in support of the Palestinians.

00:54:29Or the community.

00:54:30The visas they are trying to cancel.

00:54:33Or will do.

00:54:34What they have announced.

00:54:36That too is a very drastic step.

00:54:38I understand that.

00:54:40Actually, the Jewish lobby there is very strong.

00:54:43Exactly.

00:54:44They can't even win their own election.

00:54:46If the congressmen and senators don't get support from there.

00:54:50It is bought with money.

00:54:52These are very glaring facts.

00:54:54Everyone knows this.

00:54:56They are so influential there.

00:54:59They are doing as many steps as they can.

00:55:03They are doing it.

00:55:05The Zionists in their team.

00:55:08I understand.

00:55:10Tell me one thing.

00:55:12Sir, tell me one thing.

00:55:15This is a very extreme step.

00:55:18It is possible that the courts will take notice of this.

00:55:23And issue a state order.

00:55:25Let's see.

00:55:26I wanted to know one last thing.

00:55:28The issue of aid ban.

00:55:30Where the Americans are not benefiting.

00:55:32Stop aid there.

00:55:34To what extent can Pakistan be affected by it?

00:55:37They have closed the whole world.

00:55:40Except Egypt and Israel.

00:55:42They have also closed Taiwan and Ukraine.

00:55:45Economic assistance.

00:55:47They have asked for six months.

00:55:49We will review this policy in six months.

00:55:51America's money is not being wasted.

00:55:54We will have to wait for six months.

00:55:56Pakistan is also involved in this.

00:55:58With other countries.

00:56:00Obviously, projects were going on here.

00:56:02And see the other big issue for us.

00:56:05It's about peace here.

00:56:07There are 25,000.

00:56:09But according to our agreement.

00:56:11And our understanding with America.

00:56:13Their repatriation will take place in September 2025.

00:56:19That matter has also stopped.

00:56:21Because talks are going on.

00:56:23Yesterday, Dr. Khalid said that our talks are going on.

00:56:27But all these things have stopped.

00:56:30Exactly.

00:56:31When things stop.

00:56:32A project is going on.

00:56:33If you stop it.

00:56:34It is a big problem.

00:56:36Thank you so much.

00:56:38Let's see what happens.

00:56:42Now let's talk about public health.

00:56:45We keep telling you to keep your teeth clean.

00:56:50And you have to change your toothbrush every now and then.

00:56:53Here is a small issue.

00:56:55Many people brush their teeth very quickly.

00:56:58What is the right way?

00:57:00How long should you brush your teeth?

00:57:02What kind of toothbrush should be used?

00:57:04Do it twice or thrice.

00:57:07What is a biofilm?

00:57:09How long does a plaque take to form?

00:57:11You must be thinking that these topics keep happening.

00:57:15But we have discussed these topics many times.

00:57:19We discuss them in different ways.

00:57:21I will not say dental hygiene.

00:57:24It is your oral hygiene.

00:57:26Not only your teeth, but also your mouth.

00:57:29It is very important to keep your mouth clean.

00:57:32It is important to keep it clean at the right time.

00:57:34If you eat food, it becomes a biofilm after 15 minutes.

00:57:38If you leave it for 2-3 hours, it spoils your teeth.

00:57:42If you sleep without brushing your teeth, it becomes a problem.

00:57:45So it is very important to keep your teeth clean.

00:57:49There is a research in Sweden.

00:57:52Out of 10 people, only 1 person keeps his teeth clean.

00:57:57This is very scientific.

00:57:59Today we will make you keep your teeth clean.

00:58:01He is a dental surgeon, Dr. Qadir Hussain.

00:58:04He is a regular guest of our show.

00:58:06Thank you so much.

00:58:08Thank you so much.

00:58:09Thank you so much.

00:58:10Because the entire team of ARY calls me.

00:58:15So I come here.

00:58:16What is the reason that you look so young today?

00:58:20Sir, this is because of your eyes.

00:58:22And our hard work.

00:58:24And fitness.

00:58:25Thank you so much.

00:58:26We walk, run, whatever.

00:58:29I used to walk in the morning.

00:58:33And because of that.

00:58:34Challenge.

00:58:35Now tell me, who is this research you are doing?

00:58:38This is not anyone's research.

00:58:40Just a model.

00:58:41Sir, the research that tells that 1 out of 10 people is brushing their teeth properly.

00:58:46So what is the way to brush your teeth?

00:58:48Let me tell you one thing.

00:58:50We should brush our teeth at least 2 times.

00:58:56Before bed and after breakfast.

00:59:00And to brush, at least we have to take minimum 5 minutes.

00:59:07Minimum 2 minutes and maximum 5.

00:59:10Maximum 5.

00:59:11Sorry for that.

00:59:12To brush?

00:59:13Yes.

00:59:14So how should the bristles be?

00:59:16I am saying this because the bristles are very delicate.

00:59:20You have to brush yourself, not your bristles.

00:59:23But they are connected.

00:59:24Yes.

00:59:25So for that, I have taken this model.

00:59:28And in this model, at least you have to take a paste of peas.

00:59:36Oh.

00:59:37Yes.

00:59:38The one they show in advertisements, from here to here.

00:59:40They make you do that.

00:59:42Okay.

00:59:43You have to apply it here first.

00:59:48Okay.

00:59:49This should be the first step.

00:59:51Then after that, you have to start at a 45 degree angle.

00:59:57Okay, like this.

00:59:5845 degrees.

00:59:59Yes.

01:00:02This is proper.

01:00:04You should just roll it.

01:00:07Okay.

01:00:08Not like this.

01:00:09Oh, people do it like this.

01:00:11No, this is totally wrong.

01:00:13Nothing like this.

01:00:14Okay, we don't do it like this, but we do it like this.

01:00:17You have to roll it with your gums.

01:00:21Oh.

01:00:22Like a windshield.

01:00:23Yes.

01:00:24You have to roll it.

01:00:25Okay.

01:00:26You have to keep it at a 45 degree angle.

01:00:28You don't have to do it with your gums.

01:00:30Okay.

01:00:32This is proper.

01:00:33After that, you have to do it like this.

01:00:35Okay, now the inner area of your teeth.

01:00:38Yes.

01:00:39You have to do it like this.

01:00:41Like this.

01:00:42And the upper teeth.

01:00:43Like this.

01:00:44Okay, the upper teeth.

01:00:45Just opposite.

01:00:46You have to do it like this.

01:00:49After that, at a 45 degree angle.

01:00:52These are very strong teeth.

01:00:54And they are big too.

01:00:56And they are white too.

01:00:58Yes, you have to do it like this.

01:01:00Like this.

01:01:02Sir, tell me, why are the upper teeth so pure and innocent compared to the lower teeth?

01:01:06They have so many problems.

01:01:08See.

01:01:09It is easy to clean them.

01:01:11Let me tell you one thing.

01:01:13Whenever you brush your teeth.

01:01:15Mostly, you brush the left side more.

01:01:20Then the right side is left.

01:01:23You don't pay attention to it.

01:01:24Yes.

01:01:25So, your attention is more on the upper teeth.

01:01:27And less on the lower teeth.

01:01:28But sometimes, there is a problem of gravity.

01:01:30Saliva is also below your teeth.

01:01:32Yes, that is right.

01:01:34Saliva cleans your teeth by itself.

01:01:37All your food is hard food.

01:01:40That is why it is said that if you pay more attention to hard food like apples, carrots, etc.

01:01:46You will get more clean teeth.

01:01:47That is self-cleansing.

01:01:49Okay.

01:01:50Doctor, the upper area and your tongue should also be clean.

01:01:54It is a must.

01:01:55In the last step, you have to clean your tongue.

01:01:59With this brush.

01:02:00With the opposite side of the brush.

01:02:02Yes.

01:02:03This is the tongue.

01:02:04You can do it like this.

01:02:06A lot of people clean their teeth so much.

01:02:08They say that they don't get white teeth.

01:02:09So, are the color of the teeth also different?

01:02:11Basically, there are two types of staining.

01:02:15One is exogenous staining.

01:02:17And the other is endogenous staining.

01:02:19Exogenous staining is the staining which is due to water, tobacco, tea, coffee.

01:02:27Which can be clean.

01:02:29The other is endogenous staining.

01:02:32Which can be due to water since childhood.

01:02:36Or if the mother has used any medicine.

01:02:42So, that is the reason.

01:02:44Fluoride water, which has a lot of fluoride.

01:02:48Because of that, there is fluoridosis.

01:02:50Because of that, there is a brownish color.

01:02:54That is not clean.

01:02:55That is yellowish stain.

01:02:56That is not clean at all.

01:02:57That is endogenous.

01:02:58Inside the tooth.

01:03:00And frankly speaking, a lot of white.

01:03:03It looks very artificial.

01:03:05Nowadays, a bleach color is used a lot.

01:03:12And people come to us and demand for bleach color teeth.

01:03:19Sir, in the method of cleaning, you said that it should be done for 2 to 5 minutes.

01:03:24Yes.

01:03:25But you should do it by rolling it like this.

01:03:27Yes.

01:03:28You should not rub it like this.

01:03:29No.

01:03:30This is the first thing.

01:03:31After this, this process is completed.

01:03:34After that comes the tongue cleaning.

01:03:36Yes.

01:03:37In the last, you have to go for flossing.

01:03:42Flossing is a must.

01:03:44In the middle of the teeth, the food does not come out of the brush.

01:03:49It is better to take a thread.

01:03:51They have a special waxed floss.

01:03:56You tie it on your index finger.

01:04:01Sir, there are different types of threads.

01:04:04There are different sizes.

01:04:06If there are many gaps, the thread should be thick.

01:04:11It should not hurt you.

01:04:12Yes.

01:04:13But flossing is very important.

01:04:15And what about the wall inside the mouth?

01:04:19You can do it openly.

01:04:20You can do it openly.

01:04:21And what about mouthwash?

01:04:23One thing, we will talk about mouthwash.

01:04:25They say that fluoride toothpaste should not be used.

01:04:28Is it true?

01:04:29If you need fluoride, there is a lot of fluoride.

01:04:33What is the harm of fluoride?

01:04:35I have already told you that fluoridosis.

01:04:38Fluoride itself is necessary for our teeth.

01:04:41But there should be a limit.

01:04:43Above the limit.

01:04:45If you go beyond the limit.

01:04:47Is it better to avoid it?

01:04:49No.

01:04:50It is necessary to some extent.

01:04:51If you use it once or twice a month, then stop it.

01:04:56And again start it.

01:04:57Because we do not see anything.

01:04:58We bring toothpaste.

01:04:59We do not read whether there is fluoride in it or not.

01:05:01No.

01:05:02It is not like that.

01:05:03For example, clove oil toothpaste is the best for you.

01:05:06Clove oil is the best thing for the tooth.

01:05:09Lung.

01:05:10Lung.

01:05:11Yes.

01:05:12It is also used in pain.

01:05:13Yes, it is used in pain.

01:05:14What is there in clove oil?

01:05:15Is it different from pain?

01:05:16Of course.

01:05:17It sedates the nerve fibers.

01:05:23Due to which the pain subsides.

01:05:26And you are saying that after eating.

01:05:28As I was telling you.

01:05:29The biofilm that starts to form.

01:05:31Shiny and slippery.

01:05:34Within 5 minutes.

01:05:35Right?

01:05:36I was saying this.

01:05:37Sometimes in 3 hours, the world goes from here to there.

01:05:39Exactly.

01:05:40That's why after eating food.

01:05:43You have to brush your teeth.

01:05:45So that it remains clean till the next meal.

01:05:47The film is formed.

01:05:48But it does not cause so much damage.

01:05:50If you have not removed it.

01:05:52It should be removed.

01:05:53In the next meal.

01:05:5424 hours.

01:05:55Keep a difference of 12 hours.

01:05:57To brush your teeth.

01:05:58Yes.

01:05:59But in the morning.

01:06:00After breakfast.

01:06:02People do it before breakfast.

01:06:04Yes.

01:06:05At night.

01:06:06After.

01:06:07Dinner.

01:06:08Morning.

01:06:09After breakfast.

01:06:11Okay.

01:06:12Take care of these things.

01:06:13If you want to say something about mouthwash.

01:06:14Yes.

01:06:15See.

01:06:16Best mouthwash.

01:06:17That is the table salt.

01:06:19Oh.

01:06:20Take half a glass of hot water.

01:06:21Add salt to it.

01:06:24Best one.

01:06:25Otherwise.

01:06:26Colourful.

01:06:27We have a lot.

01:06:28We will write anything.

01:06:29This is the best.

01:06:30That's why people use it cheaply.

01:06:32It is a household item.

01:06:33There is no money spent on it.

01:06:35Best.

01:06:36Thank you so much.

01:06:37Thank you so much.

01:06:38Thank you so much.

01:06:39Thank you so much.

01:06:40Thank you very much.

01:06:41Mr. Qadir.

01:06:42You came.

01:06:43And we always get a lot of good information.

01:06:45I always.

01:06:46This idea of rolling.

01:06:47I never got it before.

01:06:48For this.

01:06:49You need a little patience.

01:06:50I don't know.

01:06:51When we were brushing our teeth.

01:06:52We used to remember all the problems of the world.

01:06:54And we used to do this and that.

01:06:56Now you didn't even do this and that.

01:06:57All the thoughts are coming out in the form of emotions.

01:07:00Let's tell you something.

01:07:02Because we have also entered the phase of summer.

01:07:05So in this way.

01:07:06In the past, such houses used to be made.

01:07:09Which are mud houses.

01:07:10Oh.

01:07:11Now when there is a mud house.

01:07:12Then think.

01:07:13It will be cold automatically.

01:07:15So what to do?

01:07:16When so many electricity bills are coming.

01:07:17So are we making mud houses?

01:07:18Money is also needed to make a house.

01:07:20Anyway.

01:07:21But now you don't get to see these mud houses.

01:07:24It is rare.

01:07:25It used to happen in our village too.

01:07:27But now everything is getting fixed.

01:07:29So you get to see less and more.

01:07:30But in Chaman.

01:07:31You will see this in a lot of numbers.

01:07:33So Akhtar Gulfan is showing us such houses.

01:07:36As soon as the thought of the village comes.

01:07:37Houses made of raw clay are seen.

01:07:40But with the passage of time.

01:07:42Instead of these houses.

01:07:43Concrete buildings.

01:07:44And bungalows have taken.

01:07:46However, in the district of Chaman in Bulistan.

01:07:48Even today, these ancient houses can be seen everywhere.

01:07:51This house was built by my grandfather 40 years ago.

01:07:54It is hot in winter.

01:07:56And it is cold in summer.

01:07:58This house is made of mud in water.

01:08:00At the same time.

01:08:01The arrangement of the stones is made.

01:08:03Its roof.

01:08:04Wood.

01:08:05Wild grass.

01:08:06It is made of mud.

01:08:08These mud houses.

01:08:09Where one side.

01:08:10We care for the natural environment.

01:08:12So along with that.

01:08:13To compete with the harshness of the weather.

01:08:15They also have full skills.

01:08:17Many people living in these houses.

01:08:19Can build houses and bungalows of concrete.

01:08:22But they love their raw walls.

01:08:25And they consider it a part of their culture.

01:08:28With Camerating.

01:08:29Akhtar Gulfan.

01:08:30ARY News.

01:08:31Chaman.

01:08:32And Sadaf.

01:08:33Such a difficult job was done.

01:08:34In these raw houses.

01:08:35The work of cleaning.

01:08:36Especially.

01:08:37Making the floor.

01:08:38Or going to the floor.

01:08:39On that.

01:08:40There was a lot of hard work of women.

01:08:41It wasn't easy.

01:08:42There was no stomach.

01:08:43And they made their own houses.

01:08:44They made their own houses.

01:08:45With mud.

01:08:46With sand.

01:08:47And stones.

01:08:48And that.

01:08:49Was the work of the laborers.

01:08:50But after that.

01:08:51Their cleaning.

01:08:52Was very hard.

01:08:53Then water proofing.

01:08:54Of their roof.

01:08:55Keeping it clean.

01:08:56And they were very clean.

01:08:58Yes.

01:08:59It was amazing.

01:09:00I will share the pictures.

01:09:01If I get it.

01:09:02Of course.

01:09:03Share it.

01:09:04We have to take a break here.

01:09:05We will come back after the break.

01:09:12So now.

01:09:13Let's talk.

01:09:14About tourism.

01:09:15And we have to sit here.

01:09:16And talk.

01:09:17What else can we do?

01:09:18We can talk.

01:09:19Okay.

01:09:20We.

01:09:21The tourists went there.

01:09:22We went there.

01:09:23We are giving advice to people.

01:09:24The tourists did this.

01:09:25They did that.

01:09:26And I don't know.

01:09:27In lakhs of tourists.

01:09:28They went there.

01:09:29But these two tourists.

01:09:30Okay.

01:09:31These tourists.

01:09:32If they go.

01:09:33They go to foreign countries.

01:09:34Okay.

01:09:35And these tourists stay here.

01:09:36So why aren't you going?

01:09:37Who stopped you?

01:09:38Who is it?

01:09:39My situation has stopped me.

01:09:40Sadaf.

01:09:41My situation.

01:09:42I will talk about it later.

01:09:43But we are talking about our beautiful country.

01:09:44And.

01:09:45Especially.

01:09:46If we talk about KP.

01:09:47So there.

01:09:48Everyone is a fan of natural beauty.

01:09:49Everyone is a fan of natural beauty.

01:09:50And.

01:09:51This is a.

01:09:52You understand.

01:09:53It is a desert.

01:09:54It is green.

01:09:55There are mountains.

01:09:56Then.

01:09:57Now.

01:09:58There are more people enjoying there than snow.

01:09:59So.

01:10:00In Karachi.

01:10:01From today.

01:10:02Pakistan Travel Mart Expo.

01:10:03It is going to be held.

01:10:04And this is a three-day travel mart.

01:10:05There are different topics in it.

01:10:06So.

01:10:07And.

01:10:08KP's beautiful tourist spots.

01:10:09And.

01:10:10The facilities for tourism there.

01:10:11The support of local artists.

01:10:12And.

01:10:13Other.

01:10:14Sites of hospitality.

01:10:15That is going to be very interesting.

01:10:16We too.

01:10:17By the way.

01:10:18Want to know.

01:10:19We are going to talk about it.

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Bakhabar Savera with Ashfaq Satti and Sadaf Abdul Jabbar | 31st Jan 2025

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