Bakhabar Savera with Ashfaq Satti and Sadaf Abdul Jabbar

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Bakhabar Savera with Ashfaq Satti and Sadaf Abdul Jabbar | 3rd Jan 2025
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00:00:00Bismillah-e-Rahman-e-Rahim, Assalam-o-Alaikum, Baaghabar-e-Sawera, and welcome to Good Morning

00:00:25to You All.

00:00:26Today, we have with us Mr. Sadaf Abdul-Jabbar and Mr. Satyajit Eshwag.

00:00:33Mr. Satyajit Eshwag, I was thinking that sometimes, when you are reading something in the morning,

00:00:40you see two words, double-double.

00:00:42So, if you don't get your salary, and you see double-double digits, what happens if it

00:00:47really happens?

00:00:48How does it happen?

00:00:49I believe in truth.

00:00:50Think about it, where did my imagination shift from?

00:00:53If I see double-double digits, what happens?

00:00:55But, that machine keeps most of the notes.

00:00:57It doesn't give more notes.

00:00:59So, I believe more in what I get.

00:01:02It will give only the notes, right?

00:01:04Yes, yes.

00:01:05It won't give more than that.

00:01:07But, how is it good that you put in Rs. 25,000 and get Rs. 50,000 out of it?

00:01:10Sometimes, it happens that a person makes a transaction with you and leaves early.

00:01:14There is a song in it, right?

00:01:15That I write 8 and 16 come.

00:01:16And, if the transaction is late, then what should I tell you?

00:01:18I write 8 and 16 come.

00:01:21Anyway, we are trying to wake up now.

00:01:26Your voice doesn't sound mature today.

00:01:30What is the reason for that?

00:01:31I don't know.

00:01:32Is my voice okay?

00:01:33What should I say?

00:01:34The weather.

00:01:35They say that the weather is dishonest.

00:01:38In the sense that sometimes, it shows good and sometimes, it shows bad.

00:01:41Two days ago, it was so cold that we were feeling it.

00:01:45It was said that 12 single digits are good in Karachi.

00:01:48Since two days, it seems that it is going to be hot.

00:01:51Why is the weather like this?

00:01:53I don't know what the weather is.

00:01:54But, I like the weather of the cricket world.

00:01:57Because, Pakistan vs South Africa.

00:01:59The second test is about to start.

00:02:01And, we will talk about this too.

00:02:03And, I was going to say one more thing.

00:02:04Do you know?

00:02:05An American came to us.

00:02:06We were not able to talk to him.

00:02:07But, he gave us Rs. 2,71,000.

00:02:09And, we told him that he was 11-12 years old.

00:02:12And, his horns were 4 inches long.

00:02:14What happened?

00:02:15We told him about his beauty.

00:02:17And, we got to know that he was being hunted by an illegal Markhor.

00:02:20So, the Levees arrested him too.

00:02:22Without giving him money, how dare you?

00:02:24Young.

00:02:25Kill a young Markhor.

00:02:26Okay.

00:02:27I was reading somewhere about the family of Markhor.

00:02:30Their eyes can see so fast.

00:02:33Our vision and the vision of an animal is that they can see Jupiter and Mars from here.

00:02:38And, this is a scientific discovery.

00:02:40Seriously?

00:02:41Yes.

00:02:42So, we will not call it the eyes of the Markhor.

00:02:44We will call it the eyes of the Markhor.

00:02:46Let it be.

00:02:47Did you see the eyes of the Markhor?

00:02:49Let's go.

00:02:50There is a lot going on internationally.

00:02:51We will talk about it.

00:02:52Because, we got to know that Bashar-ul-Assad…

00:02:54They tried to poison him.

00:02:56They tried to poison him.

00:02:57It is not confirmed.

00:02:58So, it is obvious that they were rumours.

00:03:01And, they were later talking about it.

00:03:03But, we will talk about it.

00:03:04Let's come to the winter.

00:03:06Let's come to the winter.

00:03:07What will we talk about Karachi's winter?

00:03:09It has not been cold here for two days.

00:03:10So, let's go to the other areas.

00:03:12It was 27 degrees temperature in the afternoon.

00:03:15So, it was the same temperature in the afternoon.

00:03:17Yes, it was the same temperature in the afternoon.

00:03:19You know it better than me.

00:03:20Anyway, it is extremely cold in the upper areas.

00:03:24You said it so well.

00:03:25Extremely cold.

00:03:26Yes.

00:03:27So, due to snowfall and rain, the temperature has increased.

00:03:30The new season of snowfall has started in the areas including Skardu.

00:03:34In the valleys of Neelum and Lipa of Muzaffarabad,

00:03:38due to snowfall and rain, the weather is extremely cold.

00:03:42Do you see how I am emphasizing it?

00:03:44If we talk about Kotli and Girdhunava,

00:03:46the temperature has increased due to snowfall.

00:03:48Now, think about it.

00:03:49In such a weather,

00:03:50when it is cold,

00:03:51even if it rains,

00:03:52it will dry up.

00:03:53In Swat and Chitral,

00:03:54due to snowfall and rain,

00:03:55the temperature has increased.

00:03:56It means that it is not only due to snowfall,

00:03:58but also due to snowfall.

00:03:59There are two types of weather.

00:04:01There is a possibility of snowfall in North Balochistan.

00:04:04May Allah have mercy on us.

00:04:06The new system will also affect Karachi.

00:04:09Why are you laughing?

00:04:10I don't know.

00:04:11Now, let me tell you.

00:04:12In the coming days,

00:04:13it is going to be extremely cold.

00:04:15Allah Akbar!

00:04:16It will go up to 6 degrees.

00:04:18It will be extremely cold.

00:04:19I am telling you.

00:04:20It will go up to 6 degrees.

00:04:21Extremely cold.

00:04:22Yes.

00:04:23Let's go to Swat.

00:04:24It is extremely cold for us.

00:04:25Let's go to Swat.

00:04:26It is so good that it is snowing here.

00:04:28I mean,

00:04:29apart from our Jugta,

00:04:30it is already snowing.

00:04:31And,

00:04:32tourists should never stay here in Karachi.

00:04:33It can snow on our backdrop.

00:04:35On the backdrop?

00:04:36Yes, Waris.

00:04:37Why don't you do this?

00:04:38If we talk about Swat,

00:04:39it is snowing.

00:04:40Why doesn't it happen now?

00:04:41But,

00:04:42we are still waiting for it.

00:04:43If we can't go to Malika-e-Kohsar,

00:04:45will you do this with us?

00:04:47You can make our studio.

00:04:48Malika-e-Kohsar.

00:04:49Yes.

00:04:50So,

00:04:51let's talk about Swat

00:04:52where Malam Jabba,

00:04:53you heard everything.

00:04:55Look at this.

00:04:56It is snowing.

00:04:57It is snowing.

00:04:58It is snowing.

00:04:59It is snowing.

00:05:00It is snowing.

00:05:01Someone else should come and demand.

00:05:02Someone else should come and demand.

00:05:03It is snowing in Kalam and Mahudand.

00:05:05A large number of tourists have gone there.

00:05:08So,

00:05:09Shehzad Alam is reporting.

00:05:20Snowfall is also good.

00:05:21We didn't expect it.

00:05:22We thought it would snow.

00:05:23We were afraid.

00:05:24I am from Pindi.

00:05:25We didn't expect

00:05:26that it would snow.

00:05:29We are very happy.

00:05:31I have never seen snowfall before.

00:05:33I enjoyed the weather.

00:05:35Everyone should come.

00:05:37In addition to Kalam and Malam Jabba,

00:05:39snowfall continues in Mahudand lake.

00:05:42Due to which,

00:05:43the temperature of the upper areas

00:05:45has fallen below zero.

00:05:47With the increase in winter,

00:05:49the problems of tourists

00:05:51have also increased.

00:05:53With cameraman Kamran Kami,

00:05:55Shehzad Alam,

00:05:56ARY News, Swat.

00:05:58We have covered the upper areas.

00:06:00Now,

00:06:01let's go down.

00:06:03Let's go to Dhund.

00:06:04Where is Dhund found?

00:06:07This is a very good thing.

00:06:09There is a problem with fog.

00:06:11It has come out of the smog.

00:06:13The upper areas of Punjab,

00:06:15including Lahore,

00:06:16are found there.

00:06:17The problem is that people travel.

00:06:19We are not careful.

00:06:21Accidents also happen.

00:06:22Tell us the air quality.

00:06:24Karachi is at the top.

00:06:27That's why I say

00:06:28I have problems in breathing in the morning.

00:06:30I breathe,

00:06:31it feels like mud,

00:06:32dust,

00:06:33dry winter effects.

00:06:35In the world,

00:06:36Karachi is at number one.

00:06:38With 270 AQI.

00:06:40We have seen 1,000-1,500.

00:06:43But,

00:06:44it is like hell.

00:06:46Delhi is at number three.

00:06:48With 222 AQI.

00:06:49Lahore is at number five.

00:06:51With 210 AQI.

00:06:53Karachi is at number one.

00:06:55With 270 AQI.

00:06:57The ratio is normal

00:06:59from 0 to 50.

00:07:01It is normal.

00:07:03With 50-100 AQI,

00:07:05it is normal for people

00:07:07with sensitive lungs.

00:07:09It is worse than that.

00:07:11With 270 AQI,

00:07:12you need to be very careful.

00:07:14I remember,

00:07:15when there were bad numbers

00:07:17of smog in Lahore,

00:07:19Mr. Bilawal said,

00:07:20Karachi is at number one.

00:07:22Where should the people of Karachi go?

00:07:24Yes, ask Mr. Bilawal.

00:07:26Where should the people of Karachi go?

00:07:28We are at the top

00:07:29in the category of smog.

00:07:31You can come to Islamabad.

00:07:33We have told you about Karachi.

00:07:35This is the situation in the field.

00:07:37Now, let's talk about the incidents.

00:07:39As I mentioned earlier,

00:07:41there is smog,

00:07:43negligence,

00:07:45and high speed.

00:07:47During the first week,

00:07:49there was news

00:07:51that more than 12 people

00:07:53were injured.

00:07:5510 people were injured

00:07:57in the Fatah war.

00:07:598 people were injured

00:08:01in Faisalabad, Lodhran,

00:08:03Noshair, Feroz.

00:08:05So, the incidents

00:08:07that are being told

00:08:09are false.

00:08:11In addition to this,

00:08:13there is negligence of drivers

00:08:15and fitness of cars.

00:08:17You have to be very careful

00:08:19in this weather.

00:08:21So, let's talk about the situation

00:08:23of smog.

00:08:25Almas Ahmed Khan is with us.

00:08:27We used to talk to you

00:08:29and sympathize with you.

00:08:31Almas, I don't know how you are breathing.

00:08:33The situation is not the same,

00:08:35but it has come to Karachi.

00:08:37Now, there is more fog in Lahore.

00:08:39What is the situation of fog now?

00:08:43Smog has ended

00:08:45and fog work

00:08:47has started.

00:08:49It will be like this for a week or 10 days.

00:08:51As you were saying,

00:08:53due to fog,

00:08:55a lot of accidents are happening.

00:08:57In the last 48 hours,

00:08:59according to the statistics,

00:09:03there have been

00:09:051103 road accidents.

00:09:09In Lahore alone,

00:09:11there have been 235 road accidents.

00:09:17In Faisalabad,

00:09:19there have been 87 accidents

00:09:21and 14 deaths.

00:09:23In Punjab alone,

00:09:25there have been 14 deaths

00:09:27due to road accidents.

00:09:29According to the statistics,

00:09:31there have been 1122 road accidents.

00:09:35As you can see,

00:09:37this is the toll of the motorway.

00:09:41There are no road accidents

00:09:43on the motorway.

00:09:45As soon as there is fog,

00:09:47the motorway workers

00:09:49close the motorway.

00:09:51Right now,

00:09:53the motorway is closed.

00:09:55In Islamabad,

00:09:57the M2 motorway is closed.

00:10:01In Lahore,

00:10:03the M3 motorway is closed.

00:10:05In Pindi Bhatia,

00:10:07the M4 motorway is closed.

00:10:09In Multan,

00:10:11the M11 motorway is closed.

00:10:13In Sialkot,

00:10:15all the motorways

00:10:17in Punjab are closed.

00:10:19In Punjab,

00:10:21the M4 motorway is closed.

00:10:25In GT Road and Multan Road,

00:10:27the motorway workers

00:10:29are told

00:10:31that the best time

00:10:33to travel

00:10:35is between

00:10:3710 pm and 6 pm.

00:10:41Before that,

00:10:43there is heavy fog.

00:10:45In Faisalabad,

00:10:47there is heavy fog.

00:11:11Thank you so much

00:11:13Almas Ahmed Khan

00:11:15for showing us

00:11:17the Lahore city.

00:11:19We have with us

00:11:21Dr. Masroor Alam Kolachi,

00:11:23DIG Operations,

00:11:25Motorway Police.

00:11:27Thank you so much

00:11:29for joining us.

00:11:31What are the reasons

00:11:33for the increase

00:11:35in the number

00:11:37of accidents?

00:11:39Thank you

00:11:41for inviting me

00:11:43for this interview.

00:11:45The reason is

00:11:47that the driver

00:11:49is often negligent

00:11:51but the fog

00:11:53adds to it.

00:11:55In December,

00:11:57January, February,

00:11:59there are 2-3 months

00:12:01where there is a lot of fog.

00:12:03The visibility

00:12:05is sometimes zero

00:12:07or very low.

00:12:09That becomes

00:12:11the main reason

00:12:13for the decrease in visibility.

00:12:15These are the main

00:12:172 reasons

00:12:19for which we

00:12:21make a strategy

00:12:23for these 2-3 months.

00:12:25Our DIG,

00:12:27Motorway Police,

00:12:29has taken steps

00:12:31in this regard.

00:12:33Motorway is

00:12:35considered

00:12:37the safest

00:12:39place to travel

00:12:41especially

00:12:43in foggy conditions

00:12:45as there are

00:12:47a lot of checks and balances.

00:12:49At that time,

00:12:51vehicles are better

00:12:53in terms of fitness.

00:12:55Do you have

00:12:57any suggestions

00:12:59for people

00:13:01to avoid accidents?

00:13:03Mr. Ashfaq,

00:13:05Motorway Police

00:13:07gives instructions

00:13:09in these foggy

00:13:11months

00:13:13through

00:13:15social media

00:13:17to inform people

00:13:19that fog is

00:13:21a situation

00:13:23where visibility

00:13:25is low.

00:13:27Through social media

00:13:29and electronic media,

00:13:31Motorway Police

00:13:33informs people

00:13:35about the road situation.

00:13:37The first precaution

00:13:39is to

00:13:41avoid

00:13:43accidents

00:13:45in foggy weather.

00:13:47Secondly,

00:13:49if you are traveling,

00:13:51check the road situation.

00:13:53Motorways are

00:13:55avoided in foggy weather.

00:13:57Motorway Police

00:13:59avoids accidents

00:14:01in foggy weather

00:14:03because visibility

00:14:05is low.

00:14:07However,

00:14:09highways are open

00:14:11and you can

00:14:13turn on the fog lights

00:14:15and control

00:14:17overspeeding.

00:14:19Also,

00:14:21stay in your lane

00:14:23and avoid

00:14:25overtaking.

00:14:27These are the

00:14:29basic steps

00:14:31to avoid

00:14:33accidents.

00:14:35Ideally,

00:14:37it is better

00:14:39to travel

00:14:41after 10 am.

00:14:43What is the

00:14:45ideal time

00:14:47to travel?

00:14:49Obviously,

00:14:51because

00:14:53visibility is low

00:14:55in foggy weather.

00:14:57Ideally,

00:14:59it is better

00:15:01to travel

00:15:03after 10 am.

00:15:05Even if

00:15:07motorways are closed,

00:15:09it is better

00:15:11to travel

00:15:13before 10 am

00:15:15so that visibility

00:15:17is better.

00:15:19Comparatively,

00:15:21we have seen

00:15:23that

00:15:25motorways are

00:15:27the safest way

00:15:29to travel.

00:15:31However,

00:15:33there are some

00:15:35two-way roads

00:15:37where it is

00:15:39difficult to

00:15:41manage traffic.

00:15:43Thankfully,

00:15:45there are no accidents.

00:15:47Yes,

00:15:49you are right.

00:15:51In Pakistan,

00:15:53the main highways

00:15:55are two-way.

00:15:57For example,

00:15:59the road from Karachi

00:16:01to Uttal and Quetta

00:16:03is single-way.

00:16:05There are many accidents.

00:16:07The Indus Highway

00:16:09from Jamshoro

00:16:11to Ladkana

00:16:13is single-way.

00:16:15The National Highway

00:16:17and Motorway Police

00:16:19are very careful

00:16:21because there is a

00:16:23high chance of

00:16:25head-on collision.

00:16:27There is no speed

00:16:29and judgment

00:16:31in front of the driver.

00:16:33The road you are

00:16:35talking about

00:16:37seems like a

00:16:39concave road.

00:16:41There are many

00:16:43other chances.

00:16:45Doctor,

00:16:47what is your

00:16:49approach?

00:16:51Some people

00:16:53use yellow paper

00:16:55to convert

00:16:57fog lights.

00:16:59Is that effective?

00:17:03The purpose

00:17:05of a fog light

00:17:07is to serve

00:17:09a purpose.

00:17:11A proper fog light

00:17:13is a requirement.

00:17:15We do not

00:17:17allow this in

00:17:19passenger vehicles.

00:17:21However,

00:17:23it is suggested

00:17:25that there should be

00:17:27a fog light.

00:17:29There are buses

00:17:31and vans

00:17:33and PSV vehicles.

00:17:35The Motorway Police

00:17:37do not allow this.

00:17:39They are instructed

00:17:41to use proper fog lights.

00:17:43The Motorway Police

00:17:45have a mechanism

00:17:47called the PSV MIS.

00:17:49PSV means

00:17:51Passenger Vehicles.

00:17:53The buses and vans

00:17:55are 100%

00:17:57implementable

00:17:59in Islamabad.

00:18:01Every bus is checked

00:18:03from 2-3 technical

00:18:05aspects.

00:18:07Outdoors and

00:18:09internally,

00:18:11the driver's

00:18:13license,

00:18:15route permit,

00:18:17etc.

00:18:19It is a centralized system.

00:18:21It is fully effective

00:18:23in Islamabad.

00:18:25All DIGs

00:18:27in Karachi,

00:18:29Lahore,

00:18:31and Quetta

00:18:33have been instructed

00:18:35to use it.

00:18:37Islamabad

00:18:39is an example of

00:18:41how effective it is.

00:18:43All DIGs

00:18:45have been instructed

00:18:47to use it.

00:18:49It is gradually

00:18:51becoming effective

00:18:53in Pakistan.

00:18:55Thank you so much

00:18:57Dr. Masroor Alam.

00:18:59Please be careful

00:19:01while traveling on the

00:19:03Motorway.

00:19:05Our friends in Karachi

00:19:07should use good brakes.

00:19:09Brake pads and shoes

00:19:11should be of good quality.

00:19:13Brake boosters, brake oil.

00:19:15Brake is a very important component.

00:19:17These things haunt you

00:19:19when you go to the highlands.

00:19:21Even if you are traveling for a long time,

00:19:23you should check

00:19:25the fitness of your vehicle.

00:19:27Let's take a break here.

00:19:29We will be back soon.

00:19:37Welcome back once again.

00:19:39A series that started last year

00:19:41and is still going on this year.

00:19:43We are playing two matches in two years.

00:19:45Do whatever you want to do.

00:19:47We played one match in 2024

00:19:49and we are going to play another one in 2025.

00:19:51It is a test match between you and

00:19:53South Africa.

00:19:55We have lost one of the two test matches.

00:19:57We are going to play the second one

00:19:59in Cape Town.

00:20:01We can't win the series.

00:20:03We can't lose the South Africa series.

00:20:05We have to equalize the series.

00:20:07In 1998, Pakistan

00:20:09drew the series on this land.

00:20:11After that, we lost

00:20:13four series in a row.

00:20:15This is a stadium.

00:20:17If you play well, you can perform well.

00:20:19Pakistan has played four test matches

00:20:21so far.

00:20:23They have not won a single match.

00:20:25Let's go.

00:20:27Why didn't they keep three matches?

00:20:29There should have been a decision.

00:20:31There will be a decision if you don't play well.

00:20:33One team won.

00:20:35Someone else won.

00:20:37Let's go to the head coach of the national cricket team,

00:20:39Akif Javed.

00:20:41He says that you can't

00:20:43play a player for a whole year.

00:20:45You have to make different teams

00:20:47of white and red ball.

00:20:49By the way, it should have been done long ago.

00:20:51Because playing cricket continuously

00:20:53reduces the interest of the players.

00:20:55They get tired.

00:20:57While talking in the PCB podcast,

00:20:59he said that the Champions Trophy is being held in Pakistan.

00:21:01The Indian team will become the champion again.

00:21:03We also hope so.

00:21:05Let's listen to Akif Javed.

00:21:07You can't play a player

00:21:09for 12 months.

00:21:11We have to increase our players pool.

00:21:13We have to take brave decisions.

00:21:15If not today, then tomorrow.

00:21:17Every team will have to do this.

00:21:19You will have to make your red ball

00:21:21and white ball teams different

00:21:23to some extent so that

00:21:25there is energy and interest in the players.

00:21:27People get bored.

00:21:29It should be a challenge

00:21:31how to take these players for 10-12 years.

00:21:33At the top.

00:21:35Champions Trophy in Pakistan.

00:21:37Our conditions in front of our fans.

00:21:39I think Pakistan can repeat that.

00:21:41Maybe he is saying burn out.

00:21:43Yes, he is saying burn out.

00:21:45Otherwise, you get money

00:21:47and fame.

00:21:49If you perform well,

00:21:51then why will you get tired?

00:21:53But a person gets tired.

00:21:55Let's talk about our legendary

00:21:57batsman who used to play

00:21:59150 plus pace.

00:22:01He scored well

00:22:03from Pakistan.

00:22:05Kamran Akmal is with us.

00:22:07Thank you so much for your time.

00:22:09Please tell me one thing.

00:22:11They are saying

00:22:13that they are going to

00:22:15drop Aamir Jamal in this match.

00:22:17They are saying that

00:22:19Mir Hamza can return.

00:22:21As much as I like Mir Hamza.

00:22:23But I was saying that

00:22:25if we talk about performance,

00:22:27even Naseem is not performing well.

00:22:29So what are the precautions

00:22:31to remove a player?

00:22:33Look,

00:22:35performance is seen.

00:22:37And

00:22:39the match in which he plays,

00:22:41his performance is accounted.

00:22:43But if there is any solid

00:22:45evidence, then you can say

00:22:47that he has scored 20 overs,

00:22:4925 overs.

00:22:51If he didn't take a wicket,

00:22:53if he didn't take 80 overs,

00:22:55if he took 8 overs,

00:22:57if he took 5 overs in Australia,

00:22:59if he took 1 over in another league,

00:23:01then automatically

00:23:03you know

00:23:05that he will be dropped.

00:23:07Because he is not given

00:23:09a lot of chances.

00:23:11We are saying that

00:23:13stay away from these things.

00:23:15Give him the best combination.

00:23:17Don't go on liking and disliking.

00:23:19It will be a big loss for us.

00:23:21So this is the reason.

00:23:23I don't think he should get

00:23:25all the overs.

00:23:27And this is the reason

00:23:29why we are playing Mir Hamza.

00:23:31Here we need all-rounders

00:23:33in Pakistan team,

00:23:35in ODI cricket,

00:23:37in T20 and Test matches.

00:23:39We don't have

00:23:41fast-balling all-rounders

00:23:43after Azhar Mehmood

00:23:45and Abdul Raza.

00:23:47They have come,

00:23:49they have done all-rounders.

00:23:51They have done all-rounders.

00:23:53I don't know

00:23:55what will happen

00:23:57after that.

00:23:59They are being

00:24:01completely sidelined.

00:24:03They are not being given

00:24:05opportunities.

00:24:07They are not being

00:24:09given confidence.

00:24:11We are still in

00:24:13the experiment phase.

00:24:15If I talk about the test,

00:24:17we were talking about Sajid Nauman.

00:24:19But there were more changes.

00:24:21So these changes,

00:24:23we need to set

00:24:25that this is our team combination.

00:24:27Like Aqib Javed was saying,

00:24:29the test and T20

00:24:31and ODI should be different.

00:24:33But these experiences have happened.

00:24:35Do you think we need

00:24:37to experiment more?

00:24:39These experiments will continue.

00:24:41You were telling us

00:24:43about Aqib's media talk.

00:24:45He said that

00:24:47players cannot play for 12 months.

00:24:49They have to manage their workload.

00:24:51They can play.

00:24:53They can play for 10 years.

00:24:55They should not be given

00:24:57NOCs.

00:24:59They should play for Pakistan.

00:25:01They should play for Pakistan.

00:25:03They should play for Pakistan.

00:25:05Whatever it is.

00:25:07Waseem Bhai, Waqar Bhai,

00:25:09Shoaib Akhtar, Umar Gul,

00:25:11why should they play for so long?

00:25:13Leagues have failed.

00:25:15You are in the Central Contract now.

00:25:17This is what I was saying.

00:25:19Your international worth and brand

00:25:21should be maintained.

00:25:23International worth and brand

00:25:25should be maintained by playing for our country.

00:25:27Not by playing league cricket.

00:25:29If you play league cricket,

00:25:31you play for the country's performance.

00:25:33I think there is no problem.

00:25:35PSL.

00:25:37If you are performing in your team,

00:25:39then PSL or any league

00:25:41takes you.

00:25:43If you are not performing in your team,

00:25:45you are not performing for your country.

00:25:47That's a different story.

00:25:49Nowadays, all the teams

00:25:51are playing leagues all over the world.

00:25:53They manage their time.

00:25:55They balance their domestic matches

00:25:57and playing in their country

00:25:59and playing abroad.

00:26:01Are you asking me

00:26:03or are you asking Ishwar Bhai?

00:26:05I am asking you.

00:26:11You have to deal with these things

00:26:13professionally.

00:26:15If they want to increase their career,

00:26:17they have to play their international cricket

00:26:19for a long time.

00:26:21Today, Australia, Mitchell Starks,

00:26:23Cummings, Boomerang.

00:26:25How are they leading the world?

00:26:27How are they leading Ben Stokes?

00:26:29How long have they led Jimmie Anderson?

00:26:31They have given value to Test Cricket.

00:26:33They have given value to One Day Cricket.

00:26:35T20 Cricket is played many times.

00:26:37Look at Joe Root.

00:26:39He brings a new team to England.

00:26:41Then they sideline him.

00:26:43And they give him a Test match.

00:26:45They should do this type of planning.

00:26:47Don't do this type of planning.

00:26:49It is beneficial.

00:26:51You are getting 1 lakh dollars in Cricket.

00:26:53You should give him 2 Test matches.

00:26:55Use this as an excuse.

00:26:57Don't do stupid things.

00:26:59We are not kids.

00:27:01We have to deal with maturity

00:27:03professionally.

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00:32:15Mr. Ali Ameen Gandapur,

00:32:17whose statements we were showing yesterday,

00:32:19that he will run like Bangladesh and Shyam,

00:32:21now it is that all these government officials

00:32:23were surprised at his gentle attitude.

00:32:25And Ayaz Sadiq has said that

00:32:27Ali Ameen Gandapur has openly said good things.

00:32:29Rana Sanaullah has also said

00:32:31that a lot of good things happened today.

00:32:33Ali Ameen Gandapur has said that

00:32:35matters should be resolved through dialogue.

00:32:37And Raja Parvez Ashraf has also said

00:32:39that Gandapur was completely different today.

00:32:41He was very soft.

00:32:43Whether it is Eid or not,

00:32:45in the parliamentary democratic system,

00:32:47the opposition and the government

00:32:49should talk.

00:32:51Democracy runs through dialogue.

00:32:53It does not run through deadlock.

00:32:55Whatever we will talk about here,

00:32:57every word of it will be with the approval

00:32:59of Mr. Nawaz Sharif.

00:33:01The government should not be a hindrance

00:33:03in the cases that are being made

00:33:05and the guarantees that are there.

00:33:07So, do you agree with this suggestion in this regard?

00:33:09Give it in writing.

00:33:11He has said very positive

00:33:13and relevant things.

00:33:15CM KPK used to joke

00:33:17about the containers.

00:33:19How did you feel when he came

00:33:21for the negotiations today?

00:33:23He was completely different today.

00:33:25He was very soft

00:33:27and he spoke very positively.

00:33:29A lot of praise is being given

00:33:31for Ali Ameen Gandapur.

00:33:33Let us tell you what he is saying.

00:33:35He is saying that

00:33:37negotiations have the support

00:33:39of the government.

00:33:41Whatever happens,

00:33:43it will be according to Bani's direction.

00:33:45Negotiations have been made

00:33:47and the attitude is such

00:33:49that whatever happens,

00:33:51we will tell everyone.

00:33:53I think the establishment

00:33:55has backing.

00:33:57Everything is happening

00:33:59with their approval.

00:34:01I am not a backdoor.

00:34:03I am an open book.

00:34:05I play openly.

00:34:07He is saying that

00:34:09they should be sent to Bani Gala.

00:34:21Happy New Year.

00:34:33Bangladesh is beautiful.

00:34:37He is saying that

00:34:39he has become soft.

00:34:41He is a changed person.

00:34:45Are you surprised?

00:34:49Happy New Year to you too.

00:34:53In politics,

00:34:55it is written that

00:34:57a week is a long time.

00:34:59A week is a long time.

00:35:01In politics,

00:35:03a moment is a long time.

00:35:05Things change.

00:35:07Obviously,

00:35:09Pakistan's justice

00:35:11and the present government

00:35:13sitting together

00:35:15is a big development.

00:35:17Irfan Siddiqui

00:35:19said that the negotiations

00:35:21will continue.

00:35:23This is the proof

00:35:25that things are moving forward.

00:35:27The reality is

00:35:29that there is a

00:35:31political struggle in Pakistan.

00:35:33If someone

00:35:35has a misperception

00:35:37that

00:35:39there is no justice

00:35:41in Pakistan,

00:35:43then

00:35:45if we run

00:35:47Pakistan's political system

00:35:49without counting them,

00:35:51then this cannot happen.

00:35:53If the people of Pakistan

00:35:55start thinking that

00:35:57we will not lift the parties

00:35:59in the government

00:36:01then this cannot happen.

00:36:03In politics,

00:36:05you have to listen to

00:36:07two opinions.

00:36:09At times,

00:36:11you have to listen to two opinions.

00:36:13The time given by Tehreek-e-Ishaf

00:36:15says that if negotiations

00:36:17are not resolved by 31st January,

00:36:19then we will move to Islamabad.

00:36:21This is not a short time.

00:36:23Negotiations take a long time.

00:36:25You are saying that

00:36:27the developments are also

00:36:29taking a long time.

00:36:31Initially,

00:36:33they have given a deadline.

00:36:35Two days ago,

00:36:37I was listening to Mr. Rana Sinha

00:36:39and he was saying that

00:36:41the time is not short

00:36:43when they are talking about

00:36:4531st January.

00:36:47If the situation

00:36:49moves forward to 31st January,

00:36:51then the next round

00:36:53will be next week.

00:36:55I think that

00:36:57there will be no problem

00:36:59in terms of time.

00:37:01Keeping the deadline in mind,

00:37:03I don't think that

00:37:05the negotiations will end.

00:37:07Is the key date

00:37:0931st January

00:37:11or 20th or 21st January?

00:37:13I think

00:37:15it is 31st January.

00:37:17I think that

00:37:19if the situation improves,

00:37:21for example,

00:37:23if you agree on 10 points,

00:37:25then we will do it on 7th or 8th.

00:37:27If 2 points are left,

00:37:29then we will do it on 9th or 10th.

00:37:31If you want more than 2 weeks,

00:37:33then they will give time

00:37:35on both sides.

00:37:37There is no problem in this.

00:37:39I think

00:37:41we should expect good.

00:37:43I have information

00:37:45that

00:37:47there is seriousness

00:37:49in the negotiations.

00:37:51Obviously,

00:37:53we should take advantage

00:37:55of your information.

00:37:57There is news on social media.

00:37:59But there is also news

00:38:01that there are

00:38:03more negotiations.

00:38:05Is this true?

00:38:07Are there more negotiations?

00:38:09There is an answer

00:38:11to this question.

00:38:13There are historical incidents.

00:38:15I will give you a reference.

00:38:17We have seen in the past

00:38:19that when Mr. Pratap came,

00:38:21we knew something,

00:38:23but it was happening in the background.

00:38:25Similarly,

00:38:27if you are a Muslim,

00:38:29or if you are a PM,

00:38:31then you know

00:38:33about the negotiations

00:38:35that took place.

00:38:37So, something is going on.

00:38:39It is not that there are

00:38:41things in the background.

00:38:43There is homework.

00:38:45Ideas are shared with each other.

00:38:47If you get a signal of acceptance,

00:38:49then things will move forward.

00:38:51We should pray.

00:38:53We hope that...

00:38:55This has nothing to do with

00:38:57the discussions in Islamabad

00:38:59and other political shows.

00:39:01On one hand,

00:39:03there will be a call.

00:39:05On the other hand,

00:39:07there may not be a call.

00:39:09Is this related to this?

00:39:11No.

00:39:13As far as the call is concerned,

00:39:15people think that

00:39:17there is a call.

00:39:19But if America

00:39:21wants to talk,

00:39:23it is not that the President

00:39:25of the United States

00:39:27wants to call

00:39:29as the President of the United States.

00:39:31Of course,

00:39:33in the past,

00:39:35some people get involved.

00:39:37There is a discussion.

00:39:39Indirectly,

00:39:41some influence is used.

00:39:43Of course,

00:39:45you cannot remove it.

00:39:47But we should

00:39:49hope for the best.

00:39:51As Irfan said,

00:39:53it is right to sit

00:39:55at one table and talk.

00:39:57People will keep talking.

00:39:59There is evidence

00:40:01that things are moving forward.

00:40:03You and I should pray

00:40:05that this situation is resolved.

00:40:07Thank you so much,

00:40:09Rukmini Sahab, for being with us.

00:40:11Did you know that

00:40:13a submarine cable was stuck

00:40:15near Qatar again?

00:40:17I don't know.

00:40:19This is an international

00:40:21submarine cable.

00:40:23You should also move forward.

00:40:25You are also a slow internet.

00:40:27Who started it?

00:40:29That is why I said

00:40:31move forward like me.

00:40:33The Supreme Assembly

00:40:35passed a law.

00:40:37It is a serious topic.

00:40:39According to it,

00:40:4115 years of marriage

00:40:43were fixed.

00:40:45If there is no law,

00:40:47the situation will be the same.

00:40:49There is a survey report

00:40:51on marriage and child labour.

00:40:53According to it,

00:40:55in many cities,

00:40:5740% in Jaikhabad,

00:40:5943% in Dadu,

00:41:0140% in Umarkot,

00:41:03Ghotki, Shikarpur,

00:41:05Tharparkar, and Karachi,

00:41:0715.4% of people

00:41:09are married at a young age.

00:41:11This is the percentage.

00:41:13According to the survey,

00:41:154.5% in Hyderabad,

00:41:172.3% in Karachi,

00:41:19and 8% in Jaikhabad

00:41:21are married at a young age.

00:41:23Let's talk to

00:41:25Sadia Javed,

00:41:27who is a vocal

00:41:29on various issues.

00:41:31Thank you Sadia for your time.

00:41:33According to the law,

00:41:35marriage at a young age

00:41:37is prohibited.

00:41:39Let's talk about child labour.

00:41:41I am sure you must have

00:41:43gone to a mechanic's workshop

00:41:45or a hotel.

00:41:47There are children

00:41:49at a young age.

00:41:51If there is a law,

00:41:53we don't believe it.

00:41:55What is the reason

00:41:57for this?

00:42:01In the name of Allah,

00:42:03first of all,

00:42:05good morning to both of you.

00:42:07I hope you are both

00:42:09doing well.

00:42:15Yesterday,

00:42:17an ARY morning show team

00:42:19shared a report with me.

00:42:21After that,

00:42:23I checked it out.

00:42:25It says

00:42:27that it was released

00:42:29by the Education Department

00:42:31of Sindh.

00:42:33It is not the work

00:42:35of the Education Department.

00:42:37If we talk about labour,

00:42:39it is either the Labour Ministry

00:42:41or Child Labour,

00:42:43then it should be

00:42:45Social Welfare.

00:42:47The Sindh Assembly

00:42:49decided the age of marriage

00:42:51at the age of 18.

00:42:53We did that.

00:42:55It was a law

00:42:57made by the Women Development

00:42:59Ministry.

00:43:01We did not conduct

00:43:03any survey.

00:43:07The survey

00:43:09is question-marked.

00:43:13The Education Department

00:43:15is doubting

00:43:17whether it is wrong.

00:43:19If there is no mandate,

00:43:21it is a different thing.

00:43:23If it is happening,

00:43:25it is the government's job

00:43:27to solve it.

00:43:31Your observation

00:43:33is correct.

00:43:35I talked to the Education Department

00:43:37and requested them

00:43:39that if they did not conduct the survey,

00:43:41they should rebut it.

00:43:43We did not conduct the survey.

00:43:45Is this survey right?

00:43:47Yes,

00:43:49they have denied it.

00:43:51That is why I asked them

00:43:53to rebut it.

00:43:55Secondly,

00:43:57this is a problem

00:43:59in Sindh.

00:44:01Sindh was the first province

00:44:03to pass a law

00:44:05against marriage

00:44:07at the age of 18.

00:44:09The Sindh Assembly

00:44:11passed the law.

00:44:13There was a lot of opposition

00:44:15from some quarters.

00:44:17The civil society supported us

00:44:19but the religious scholars

00:44:21opposed it.

00:44:25The Sindh Assembly

00:44:27passed the law

00:44:29but this is a problem

00:44:31of our society.

00:44:37We are poor in Pakistan

00:44:39and we cannot

00:44:41rebut this.

00:44:43The poverty level

00:44:45in Pakistan

00:44:47is very low.

00:44:49Instead of sending their children

00:44:51to school,

00:44:53the parents

00:44:55want them to work

00:44:57so that they can

00:44:59earn a living.

00:45:01You are right.

00:45:03You spoke to

00:45:05all the religious scholars

00:45:07but

00:45:09how many incidents

00:45:11can you tell us

00:45:13in which the Sindh government

00:45:15passed this law

00:45:17and the statistics

00:45:19show that

00:45:21marriage at a young age

00:45:23is very low.

00:45:25Can you share the statistics

00:45:27with us?

00:45:29No, I cannot share the statistics

00:45:31because I do not have

00:45:33the statistics.

00:45:35I will send you the statistics.

00:45:37Can you tell us

00:45:39whether the incidents

00:45:41are low or high

00:45:43or do they need more work?

00:45:45No,

00:45:47the incidents of child marriage

00:45:49are very low.

00:45:51I can assure you

00:45:53that the incidents

00:45:55of child marriage are very low

00:45:57because the families

00:45:59and the surroundings

00:46:01report the incidents

00:46:03and we take action.

00:46:05Some incidents

00:46:07are reported by the media

00:46:09and because of that

00:46:11the government…

00:46:13I showed you

00:46:15that in Dadu and Silabzada

00:46:17early child marriages

00:46:19have increased.

00:46:21I checked that myself

00:46:23and that number

00:46:25was proved wrong

00:46:27and people report wrongly.

00:46:29I am not denying

00:46:31that there is child labour

00:46:33for which

00:46:35I need to give you

00:46:37awareness.

00:46:39I would like to say one thing

00:46:41that the way child labour is mentioned

00:46:43in some places it is not even reported

00:46:45because it is normalized

00:46:47I told you that

00:46:49it is happening in front of our eyes

00:46:51but it is normalized

00:46:53and it is not bad.

00:46:55We see children working

00:46:57outside the school

00:46:59and you know that

00:47:01Article 25A says

00:47:03that it is the duty of the state

00:47:05to provide education.

00:47:07Who has to work on this?

00:47:09We have to work on this.

00:47:11We are working on this

00:47:13like law making.

00:47:15When your team

00:47:17contacted me yesterday

00:47:19after that I

00:47:21talked to the social welfare people

00:47:23about child labour.

00:47:25They said that our survey

00:47:27is underway

00:47:29and we are doing a survey

00:47:31so that we have a number

00:47:33of children

00:47:35in Sindh

00:47:37who are forced child labourers

00:47:39whether they are parents

00:47:41or against their will

00:47:43they want to go to school

00:47:45because they are not

00:47:47their parents.

00:47:49But the government alone

00:47:51cannot do anything about this.

00:47:53The civil society

00:47:55and the media

00:47:57together

00:47:59and my request to you

00:48:01is that the social welfare

00:48:03departments

00:48:05of all four provinces

00:48:07should take the media on board.

00:48:09The more awareness we have

00:48:11the better.

00:48:13Thank you so much Sadia.

00:48:15You did a lot of research

00:48:17and corrected us.

00:48:19Thank you so much.

00:48:25Once again

00:48:27good morning to all of you.

00:48:29I hope you are all doing well.

00:48:31We had a great journey

00:48:33from 9 am to 10 pm.

00:48:35InshaAllah

00:48:37our journey will be smooth.

00:48:39In case of weather

00:48:41problems

00:48:43you have to wear a seat belt

00:48:45and sit in front of the screen.

00:48:47You said it right.

00:48:49You have to sit in front of the screen

00:48:51and arrange for tea.

00:48:53Hopefully you have already done that.

00:48:55We are also trying to do that.

00:48:57It is 10 pm

00:48:59and this is our second hour.

00:49:01We will keep you updated.

00:49:03Sadia, did you see

00:49:05that some of the prisoners

00:49:07appealed for mercy

00:49:09after the arrest.

00:49:11It is a good thing.

00:49:13If someone makes a mistake

00:49:15and then

00:49:17feels ashamed

00:49:19then

00:49:21it is a good thing

00:49:23to apologize.

00:49:25Let's move ahead.

00:49:27A very important topic

00:49:29is the disappearance

00:49:31of an MRI machine in KP.

00:49:33It is a shocking incident.

00:49:35The machine

00:49:37is a miracle.

00:49:39The machine

00:49:41is a miracle.

00:49:43CCTV cameras

00:49:45are installed

00:49:47everywhere.

00:49:49MRI machine

00:49:51is not a small thing.

00:49:53MRI machine

00:49:55is a very big machine

00:49:57which is estimated

00:49:59to cost Rs. 300 million.

00:50:01Rs. 300 million

00:50:03a million rupees.

00:50:04If you tell us the weight, we can see the size and weight of it.

00:50:07It can't disappear.

00:50:08It's not a bag that someone can hide it.

00:50:11Or you can't fold it and make a small one.

00:50:14It's not a laptop mouse, it's not a cup, it's not a pen that someone can disappear.

00:50:18It must have been taken in a truck or something.

00:50:23How did it disappear?

00:50:24I am surprised.

00:50:25For this, the issue is that our machine from Ayyub Teaching Hospital has disappeared.

00:50:30The committee of the KP Assembly noticed this and a meeting was held.

00:50:34In the meeting, the committee members expressed a lot of anger at the absence of the secretary and DG Sehat.

00:50:40And the chairman of the committee, Mushtaq Ghani, removed the members of the health department from the meeting.

00:50:46He said, we are not ready to accept that the MRI machine has disappeared.

00:50:50In such a general meeting, the absence of the secretary and DG Sehat.

00:50:53It cost 30 crore rupees.

00:50:54Think about it.

00:50:55Unbearable.

00:50:56No officer's absence will be tolerated in the future.

00:50:58He himself is surprised that how this machine disappeared.

00:51:01What is this?

00:51:02I am not able to understand.

00:51:03This story has come.

00:51:04I am shocked.

00:51:07If there was a model of MRI machine, then it would have been understood.

00:51:10It is such a big machine.

00:51:13Functional machine.

00:51:14Functional machine.

00:51:15These are big machines to examine the condition of patients and to see internally.

00:51:22It has a CT machine, an MRI machine.

00:51:25It examines the condition of the patient.

00:51:27But tell me, why the CCTV footage has not been released yet?

00:51:31I am surprised.

00:51:32The machine which cost 30 crore rupees has disappeared.

00:51:35It is said that the dal is black.

00:51:38Let's talk about this.

00:51:40Our representatives will be present with us.

00:51:42Raja Haroon.

00:51:43Mr. Raja, we are not able to understand.

00:51:46I mean, my mind is not working at all.

00:51:48How did it disappear?

00:51:50Do you have any information about how it was used?

00:51:53From which door?

00:51:54From which way?

00:51:55How did it come out?

00:51:56Where was it taken?

00:51:58And where did it go?

00:52:03Raja Haroon, can you hear us?

00:52:05Yes.

00:52:06Please tell us.

00:52:07It is beyond our understanding.

00:52:08Such a big machine.

00:52:09MRI machine.

00:52:10Functional machine.

00:52:1130 crore rupees machine.

00:52:13It disappeared.

00:52:14Do you have any information about it?

00:52:16Yes.

00:52:17According to the arrangement of Ayub Teaching Hospital,

00:52:21this MRI machine worth 13,75,000 dollars

00:52:24was purchased from Quips, Toshiba company.

00:52:28And the machine was purchased in the name of Ayub Teaching Hospital.

00:52:32The machine has reached the hospital in the documents.

00:52:35But the reality is that instead of the government hospital,

00:52:38it seems that it has been transferred to a private hospital.

00:52:40And the old machine has been upgraded and the new machine has disappeared.

00:52:44If the new MRI machine is installed in the hospital,

00:52:47then where is the old one?

00:52:48This is a question mark.

00:52:50The old machine has been upgraded in the hospital.

00:52:53You can imagine, the cost that he has told is 13,75,000 dollars.

00:52:57This is worth about 38 crore rupees.

00:52:59The estimate that I was telling was at least 30 crore rupees.

00:53:02Which is the work of the MRI machine.

00:53:04This MRI machine is worth more than 38 crore rupees.

00:53:08This machine is purchased with the tax money of the people.

00:53:14Raja Haroon, it won't be difficult to know this.

00:53:16Obviously, you are in Abbottabad.

00:53:18You know that in private hospitals,

00:53:21MRI machines are available.

00:53:26Normally, they are available in government hospitals.

00:53:28Where are the MRI machines available in private hospitals?

00:53:31All the private hospitals in Abbottabad,

00:53:35they all have MRI machines.

00:53:37And right in front of Ayub Teaching Hospital,

00:53:40there are 3-4 MRI machines installed.

00:53:433-4?

00:53:44Yes, 3-4 MRI machines are working outside Ayub Teaching Hospital

00:53:48in the private sector,

00:53:50from where people get their MRI done.

00:53:52And in this regard, the corruption of the MRI machine is being investigated.

00:53:56But no investigation has been done yet.

00:53:59And in this regard, the opposition woman, MPA Shaila Shah,

00:54:02who took a stand in the assembly,

00:54:05and this matter was supported by the Camera Committee.

00:54:08Now, let's see what the Camera Committee does.

00:54:11Mr. Mujtakam Ghani is the head of the PTI.

00:54:14He is also a speaker. He is still an MP.

00:54:16But tell me, did this machine come to the hospital?

00:54:21And when it came, it must have been received.

00:54:25And what does the staff say?

00:54:27When was this machine moved from here?

00:54:29It can't be that everyone was blindfolded.

00:54:32Did this machine come to the hospital?

00:54:34Look, the hospital staff,

00:54:36the president of the doctor's association,

00:54:39and other people,

00:54:40all they have to say is that

00:54:42it was received in the name of Ayub Teaching Hospital.

00:54:45This machine, the old machine,

00:54:48has been upgraded.

00:54:50Okay?

00:54:51Because in the name of the private hospital...

00:54:53No, after you, Raja Haroon,

00:54:54I feel that the machine has not come.

00:54:57The new machine has been received on paper.

00:55:00And the old machine has been upgraded.

00:55:04Yes, that's how it is.

00:55:05That's how it is.

00:55:06You have a good perception.

00:55:08That's how it is.

00:55:09And as far as Ayub Teaching Hospital is concerned...

00:55:11Mr. Raja, I would like to know one more thing.

00:55:13The question related to this is

00:55:14whether that machine has been imported.

00:55:16It has been received on paper.

00:55:19All its documents are available.

00:55:21The hospital will be named after Ayub Teaching Hospital

00:55:24because it saves taxes

00:55:26when it is named after the government.

00:55:29So this seems to be a matter of money.

00:55:32Yes.

00:55:33Apart from this, there is a lot of selfishness.

00:55:35If you look here,

00:55:3650 dental chairs have been purchased here.

00:55:38The original price of which,

00:55:39if you check,

00:55:40you can search on Google in the market.

00:55:42It is 4 lakh rupees.

00:55:43But instead of 14 lakhs,

00:55:45they have bought one machine.

00:55:46And in the same way,

00:55:47people have made unlawful progress in the hospital.

00:55:50DOG, Majooda...

00:55:52Raja Haroon, tell me one thing.

00:55:53Now we are not living in any old era.

00:55:56Now there are CCTV cameras everywhere.

00:55:59You can get all kinds of evidence.

00:56:02You tell me,

00:56:03has CCTV footage been seen somewhere?

00:56:06Has it been taken from somewhere?

00:56:07Has it been found out

00:56:08that such an incident has happened or not?

00:56:10For facts and evidence.

00:56:11Look,

00:56:12the first thing is that

00:56:13CCTV is absolutely installed there.

00:56:15But there is no such sign in the hospital.

00:56:19There is no evidence

00:56:20that the machine has been transferred to the hospital.

00:56:23This means that

00:56:24the machine has not been transferred to the hospital.

00:56:26What is the position of MS on this?

00:56:28Because this cannot happen.

00:56:29Such a big machine.

00:56:30Obviously,

00:56:31if it has come to the hospital on paper,

00:56:32then there must be some documents of its receiving.

00:56:35The technical staff

00:56:36who handle this machine,

00:56:37obviously,

00:56:38there are experts,

00:56:39they also have a receiving.

00:56:41And there is an acknowledgement

00:56:42that yes, this machine has come here.

00:56:44Are those documents available

00:56:45regarding this machine there?

00:56:46Look,

00:56:47the documents are absolutely available.

00:56:48On this,

00:56:49the facilities of the hospital,

00:56:50they have written a letter

00:56:51to their NAB

00:56:52and also to Anticorruption

00:56:53that its inquiry should be done.

00:56:55When new facilities have come,

00:56:57they have written to Anticorruption

00:56:58that where did this machine disappear?

00:57:00Anticorruption's Malik Khan Afzal

00:57:02is the name of the person

00:57:03for whom they are inquiring.

00:57:04Okay,

00:57:05let's see what happens.

00:57:06Thank you very much for this, Raja Haroon.

00:57:07You have explained to us.

00:57:08Process PTR Hanuma Mushtaq Ghani

00:57:09is present with us.

00:57:10No, it was surprising.

00:57:11Thank you very much.

00:57:12You have taken out time.

00:57:13Basically,

00:57:14the incident that took place

00:57:15in Ayub Teaching Hospital,

00:57:16we were also talking to our representative.

00:57:19You have done a lot of work on this.

00:57:21What has been presented so far on this?

00:57:24It is like this,

00:57:27in our Subahi Assembly,

00:57:28Khyber Pakhtunkhwa,

00:57:29we have an honourable member

00:57:31from Abbottabad,

00:57:32Shaila Bibi.

00:57:33She had raised a question

00:57:36and then I also supported her.

00:57:39During COVID,

00:57:40the people of Ayub Medical Teaching Hospital

00:57:45had said that

00:57:46our MRI machine has gone bad.

00:57:49And without adopting

00:57:51any proper procedure,

00:57:54they had found a new machine

00:57:56worth 30-40 crores,

00:57:58which was in violation

00:58:00of the law and the rules.

00:58:03The matter does not end here.

00:58:05After that,

00:58:06the old machine

00:58:09was said to have gone missing.

00:58:12Some people said that it was stolen.

00:58:15Now there is no matchbox.

00:58:17Why did someone put it in his pocket

00:58:18and take such a big machine?

00:58:20So we said that

00:58:21even if it is an old machine,

00:58:22there should be two machines there now.

00:58:24One that was already broken

00:58:25and one that has not been taken.

00:58:26But there is only one there.

00:58:28So on this,

00:58:29we took its notice.

00:58:31And today we had a meeting

00:58:32of the Climate Committee,

00:58:34on which we were trying to probe

00:58:36what had happened.

00:58:38But unfortunately,

00:58:40today's meeting could not be held

00:58:42that these are non-serious people.

00:58:44Neither the Secretary

00:58:46nor the DG of the Health Department

00:58:48came.

00:58:49On which the members

00:58:51protested.

00:58:52And I,

00:58:53as a chairperson of this committee,

00:58:55took out the staff

00:58:57who had come

00:58:59from the 2nd and 3rd tier.

00:59:01And then we had a kind of

00:59:03boycott of the meeting

00:59:04that we will not let it happen

00:59:05until the Secretary and the DG

00:59:07come.

00:59:08But Mr. Mushtaq Ali,

00:59:09as our reporters were also telling us,

00:59:11it seems like

00:59:13the paper has been confiscated.

00:59:15The new machine has not come from the source.

00:59:17This claim is wrong that the new machine has come.

00:59:19The old machine has been repaired

00:59:21and made functional again.

00:59:25See, the question that was raised in October,

00:59:27this is the same question.

00:59:29It came in the assembly.

00:59:30And then it was referred from there

00:59:31to the Standing Committee on Health.

00:59:33Then it came to us.

00:59:35So today,

00:59:36because these committees

00:59:38have been made late,

00:59:39because the housing is not being completed yet.

00:59:41Our reserve city has not come yet.

00:59:43But the committee has been made again.

00:59:45And what you have said,

00:59:47we also think that

00:59:49this is not something to be lost.

00:59:51Maybe it happened

00:59:53that this old machine

00:59:55has been repaired.

00:59:57And after repairing it, it was made functional.

00:59:59And it was shown in the paper

01:00:01that this new machine will come.

01:00:03So we are trying to

01:00:05probe this very thing.

01:00:07And I tell you that

01:00:09God willing,

01:00:11I will tell you by probing it.

01:00:13What is the real incident?

01:00:15If this is an old machine,

01:00:17it has been repaired and

01:00:19taken out for 35-40 crores.

01:00:21Even then,

01:00:23we will not leave the people in charge.

01:00:25And if it is lost,

01:00:27then tell us.

01:00:29We have their security staff.

01:00:31Someone must have taken it in a truck.

01:00:33So how did it go out?

01:00:35There are CCTV cameras installed.

01:00:37This is all a lie.

01:00:39The main thing is that the old machine

01:00:41may have been repaired.

01:00:43In this meeting,

01:00:45Mr. Mashtaq, people took out the health workers

01:00:47from Mehek.

01:00:49But the secretary and DG Sehat did not come there

01:00:51despite your call.

01:00:53Can the committee take action against them?

01:00:57Absolutely.

01:00:59We are sending them a notice.

01:01:01And we will call for an explanation.

01:01:03They will answer us.

01:01:05And if their answer is not satisfactory,

01:01:07then we will bring a

01:01:09privilege motion on the floor of the assembly against them.

01:01:13Mr. Mashtaq, your community is

01:01:15saying that there is zero tolerance

01:01:17against corruption.

01:01:19If we talk about the audit report of

01:01:21the Ayub Medical Complex in 2023,

01:01:23they were fined 2 crore rupees.

01:01:25Why are these incidents

01:01:27being reported continuously

01:01:29and why are they not being stopped?

01:01:31Look,

01:01:33it is a matter of the

01:01:35Public Account Committee.

01:01:37The reports of the audit

01:01:39come there.

01:01:41We are also a member of that.

01:01:43When I was the chairperson

01:01:45of the Public Account Committee

01:01:47in the last 5 years,

01:01:49you have reported a recovery of 6-7 crore rupees

01:01:51on multiple departments.

01:01:53The misfortune of the Ayub Medical Complex

01:01:55is that no permanent staff

01:01:57comes here.

01:01:59HDA or MD

01:02:01all of them

01:02:03stay for some time

01:02:05and then they are replaced.

01:02:07Because they have a BOG system.

01:02:09And BOG does these things.

01:02:11The provincial government

01:02:13has very little interference in this.

01:02:15So, because

01:02:17according to our law,

01:02:19they have a protection.

01:02:21But we will not leave them now.

01:02:23Whatever things are coming in front of us,

01:02:25the minister also wants

01:02:27that the corruption

01:02:29should be covered.

01:02:31And this planning committee

01:02:33is there so that

01:02:35we see such matters

01:02:37and investigate them

01:02:39so that it can be rectified in the future.

01:02:41But what they have done,

01:02:43they will not be forgiven.

01:02:45They will be recovered.

01:02:47Recently, Attaullah Tarar

01:02:49has issued a white paper

01:02:51for the KP government

01:02:53in which he has accused the government

01:02:55of corruption.

01:02:57What is your opinion on this, Mr. Mujtaba?

01:03:01Look, Attaullah Tarar

01:03:03was a white paper

01:03:05or a black paper.

01:03:07He has no idea about the corruption in Punjab.

01:03:09The loot market

01:03:11is hot there.

01:03:13There is nothing like this in our province.

01:03:15This case

01:03:17of Ayub

01:03:19happened in 2022.

01:03:21It is not of today.

01:03:23Even at that time,

01:03:25anti-corruption,

01:03:27but no action was taken.

01:03:29I don't know what the reason was.

01:03:31And now,

01:03:33it has come to us from the floor of the assembly.

01:03:35Now we are on it.

01:03:37And God willing, we will make it a good result.

01:03:39In our province, there is good governance.

01:03:41There is no corruption.

01:03:43And by the grace of Allah,

01:03:45this has been the shiva of the government of justice.

01:03:47If someone does corruption in the case,

01:03:49you cannot end the corruption.

01:03:51But they are given a permanent punishment.

01:03:53They are recovered from it.

01:03:55Corruption is in control

01:03:57in this province to a large extent.

01:03:59Okay.

01:04:01Thank you very much, Mujtaba Ghani.

01:04:03I am sure that action will be taken on this.

01:04:05And the meeting that will take place now,

01:04:07we will get more details about it.

01:04:09Very strange story.

01:04:11Let's take a break.

01:04:13We will be back after the break.

01:04:15Welcome back once again.

01:04:17Before moving on to the topic,

01:04:19I was looking at the report in the clip.

01:04:21Regarding the year 2024,

01:04:23due to the seasonal change,

01:04:25we got 41 additional days

01:04:27of dangerous heat.

01:04:29That means,

01:04:31in 2024,

01:04:33we had an extra month of heat.

01:04:35More than a month.

01:04:37And from 2025,

01:04:39according to the report,

01:04:41which is the joint report of

01:04:43the Indian Meteorological and Climate Central,

01:04:45it says that due to the seasonal change,

01:04:47we need to reduce the risk of death

01:04:49and avoid losses.

01:04:51That means, more heat will increase.

01:04:53Oh! May Allah have mercy on us.

01:04:55Think about it.

01:04:57There were 41 additional days of heat last year.

01:04:59That is why we were saying that

01:05:01the winters were not starting.

01:05:03How did our November go?

01:05:05It is in front of you all.

01:05:07We are sorry to inform you that

01:05:09in the area of Gulistan-e-Johar,

01:05:11six workers were cleaning the tank

01:05:13in the flat of Block 18.

01:05:15Six workers were affected

01:05:17by the toxic gas in the tank.

01:05:19Two of them died.

01:05:21Four unconscious people were

01:05:23transferred to Jinnah Hospital.

01:05:25The thing is that the underground tanks

01:05:27are filled with gas.

01:05:29There is gas in them.

01:05:31There is less caution in cleaning them.

01:05:33But the workers,

01:05:35of course, come down for work.

01:05:37And in such a situation,

01:05:39the residents of this flat also come down.

01:05:41When they saw such a situation,

01:05:43they also came to help.

01:05:45Obviously, many people

01:05:47are trapped in this.

01:05:49I don't know the exact numbers.

01:05:51But the toxic gas,

01:05:53how harmful it is,

01:05:55and how much awareness

01:05:57the administration of this flat

01:05:59had about it,

01:06:01this is a big thing in itself.

01:06:03We keep saying this.

01:06:05Experts understand that

01:06:07the gas in the underground tanks

01:06:09is so toxic that

01:06:11you don't even get a chance to clean it.

01:06:13Before you know it, you are gone.

01:06:15So one has to be very careful.

01:06:17Here, there is no safety mask.

01:06:19There is no gas mask.

01:06:21But there is so much poverty here.

01:06:23The numbers and signs

01:06:25that are being told to us

01:06:27indicate that there is a decrease

01:06:29in the rate of inflation.

01:06:31But there is no decrease

01:06:33in poverty.

01:06:35There are many claims

01:06:37that we have smoothened the economy.

01:06:39But how is the rate of inflation

01:06:41and poverty decreasing?

01:06:43The World Bank report

01:06:45shows that last year,

01:06:47the rate of poverty in Pakistan

01:06:49was 25.3%.

01:06:51This is 7% more than

01:06:53in 2023.

01:06:55And in one year,

01:06:571.3 crore more Pakistanis

01:06:59were affected by poverty.

01:07:011.3 crore.

01:07:03So what will happen?

01:07:05How will things be managed?

01:07:07Let's talk about the former

01:07:09Minister of State, Ashfaq Tawla.

01:07:11He is an economist and gives

01:07:13advice to the government

01:07:15to sort things out.

01:07:17Ashfaq, thank you so much

01:07:19for your time.

01:07:21I am glad that many people

01:07:23who are economists

01:07:25say that there is no decrease

01:07:27in poverty or inflation.

01:07:29In fact, there is a decrease

01:07:31in inflation.

01:07:33The World Bank report

01:07:35shows that poverty

01:07:37has increased in 2024

01:07:39compared to 2023.

01:07:41What do you have to say

01:07:43about this report?

01:07:45Ashfaq, you answered

01:07:47your own question.

01:07:49Actually,

01:07:51the increase in poverty

01:07:53has happened

01:07:55due to inflation.

01:07:57But it has happened

01:07:59due to the increase

01:08:01in inflation.

01:08:03The reason for this increase

01:08:05in inflation was

01:08:07that the currency

01:08:09was devalued.

01:08:11The devaluation

01:08:13of Rs.10

01:08:15increased

01:08:17by 2%

01:08:19per annum.

01:08:21The reason for this

01:08:23is that

01:08:25the currency

01:08:27is unstable.

01:08:29So, there is a decrease

01:08:31in inflation.

01:08:33If the currency

01:08:35was Rs.100

01:08:37and it increased to Rs.140

01:08:39last year,

01:08:41it has increased to Rs.142.

01:08:43There is no decrease.

01:08:45The base price

01:08:47has increased by 4%.

01:08:49If it was Rs.140,

01:08:51it has increased

01:08:53to Rs.145.

01:08:55Ashfaq, this is the reason

01:08:57for this report.

01:08:59The poor families are

01:09:01facing more poverty.

01:09:03Can we connect this

01:09:05to the fact that

01:09:07people's purchasing power

01:09:09is not increasing

01:09:11even though

01:09:13the rate of inflation

01:09:15is decreasing?

01:09:17You are right.

01:09:19If the rate of inflation

01:09:21increased by 40% last year,

01:09:23your salaries would have

01:09:25not increased.

01:09:27Your salaries would have increased

01:09:29by 50%.

01:09:31I will take back

01:09:33my words.

01:09:35I thought your salaries

01:09:37would have increased by 100%.

01:09:39Amen.

01:09:41The reason for this

01:09:43is that people

01:09:45are getting contented

01:09:47because the rate of inflation

01:09:49has not increased.

01:09:51Electricity prices

01:09:53and petrol prices

01:09:55have increased.

01:09:57They are internationally linked.

01:09:59That is why people

01:10:01are getting contented.

01:10:03There could be

01:10:052-3 changes in 2025.

01:10:07If there is a change of regime

01:10:09in the US,

01:10:11no one can predict

01:10:13the dollar situation.

01:10:15Trump's trade barrier

01:10:17policies,

01:10:19environment,

01:10:21etc.

01:10:23will be affected

01:10:25in the next few years.

01:10:27I wanted to ask you

01:10:29one more thing.

01:10:31In terms of GDP,

01:10:33it is said that

01:10:35it will increase by 3%,

01:10:37but even if it increases by 2.5%,

01:10:39it is still a big deal.

01:10:41In terms of population,

01:10:43it has increased by 2%.

01:10:45The population has increased

01:10:47by 2%.

01:10:49How will this affect

01:10:51inflation?

01:10:53When GDP increases

01:10:55by 1%,

01:10:57there is an estimate

01:10:59that 3 lakh new jobs

01:11:01will be created.

01:11:03In Pakistan,

01:11:05you will need

01:11:07at least 15 lakh jobs.

01:11:09For 15 lakh jobs,

01:11:11you will need 5% GDP growth.

01:11:13If there is less growth,

01:11:15there will be an increase

01:11:17in unemployment.

01:11:19Secondly,

01:11:21the big sectors

01:11:23in which seasonal labor

01:11:25is utilized,

01:11:27agriculture and real estate

01:11:29and construction.

01:11:31Agriculture is still

01:11:33doing well.

01:11:35Last year, there was an issue

01:11:37due to the flood.

01:11:39Last year, the water table

01:11:41level was very high.

01:11:43GDP has decreased

01:11:45due to cotton crops.

01:11:47Real estate and

01:11:49construction taxes have increased.

01:11:51These are the two things

01:11:53that you need to pay attention to

01:11:55to make a long-term policy

01:11:57so that their wheels keep spinning.

01:11:59If their wheels keep spinning,

01:12:01then 60-70 industries will come together.

01:12:03One thing is that

01:12:05people no longer have purchasing power.

01:12:07How likely is it that

01:12:09demand-pulled inflation

01:12:11will increase?

01:12:13If inflation increases,

01:12:15it can be cost-pushed

01:12:17and not demand-pulled

01:12:19unless a war breaks out.

01:12:21Do you agree with that?

01:12:23That is a force for yore.

01:12:25You cannot put it in economic terms.

01:12:27The real thing is

01:12:29cost-pushed and demand-pulled.

01:12:31Inflation will increase

01:12:33cost-pushed.

01:12:35If the dollar-rupee devalue

01:12:37increases,

01:12:39the cost of manufacturing

01:12:41will increase.

01:12:43Demand-pulled inflation will

01:12:45happen when

01:12:47you cannot avoid

01:12:49consumer-related items

01:12:51like lentils

01:12:53and sugar.

01:12:55You cannot avoid

01:12:57these things.

01:12:59You can say that

01:13:01if you use 2 kilos,

01:13:03you will use 1.5 kilos.

01:13:05That is why demand-pulled inflation

01:13:07increases.

01:13:09Relatively,

01:13:11the currency devalue

01:13:13in Pakistan

01:13:15has increased

01:13:17because of

01:13:19cost-pushed inflation.

01:13:21Ashfaq, tell us

01:13:23about the everyday

01:13:25items that

01:13:27have become expensive

01:13:29for people.

01:13:31The government claims

01:13:33that the stock market

01:13:35is undervalued.

01:13:37There are reports

01:13:39of other good stocks.

01:13:41Why is it not

01:13:43benefiting the people?

01:13:45How will it benefit?

01:13:47The stock market

01:13:49is undervalued

01:13:51due to the

01:13:53number of investors.

01:13:55The stock market

01:13:57has been undervalued

01:13:59for the past

01:14:014-5 years.

01:14:03When the banks

01:14:05are undervalued,

01:14:07there is an increase

01:14:09in stock exchange

01:14:11and real estate.

01:14:13The money

01:14:15from the banks

01:14:17goes to the

01:14:19stock market.

01:14:21The stock market

01:14:23reaches the threshold

01:14:25and goes to real estate.

01:14:27You know that real estate

01:14:29has a lot of taxes.

01:14:31It will be difficult

01:14:33to go to real estate

01:14:35unless there is a genuine

01:14:37buying demand.

01:14:39The main contribution

01:14:41goes to the industry

01:14:43and commerce.

01:14:45If the government

01:14:47doesn't make an outlet

01:14:49or infrastructure,

01:14:51it goes to the

01:14:53gold and lockers.

01:14:55The safest form of investment.

01:14:57Don't take risks.

01:14:59Thank you so much, Ashfaq Tola

01:15:01for your time.

01:15:03You can talk about this topic

01:15:05for many hours.

01:15:07We have limited time.

01:15:09This topic is very interesting.

01:15:11There are a lot of things

01:15:13that we want to learn.

01:15:15Let's talk about Lahore.

01:15:17The traffic police

01:15:19has got a new authority.

01:15:21They have been given

01:15:23the authority

01:15:25to put handcuffs.

01:15:27Chief Traffic Officer

01:15:29Athar Waheed has given the authority.

01:15:31He has instructed

01:15:33every sector in-charge

01:15:35and circle officer

01:15:37to put handcuffs.

01:15:39First of all,

01:15:41those who do illegal parking

01:15:43will be put handcuffs.

01:15:45We have decided

01:15:47but we don't understand

01:15:49what is the purpose.

01:15:51We have seen in Lahore and Punjab

01:15:53that people raise their hands

01:15:55to put handcuffs.

01:15:57Do they have the authority

01:15:59to give such orders?

01:16:01Babar Khan will tell us.

01:16:03I am sure this decision

01:16:05will be challenged in some court.

01:16:07Babar, tell us more about this.

01:16:09They have been given

01:16:11open freedom.

01:16:13These laws

01:16:15are made by the assembly.

01:16:17Be it Punjab assembly

01:16:19or national assembly.

01:16:21The traffic warden

01:16:23has been given the authority

01:16:25to put handcuffs

01:16:27to those who do illegal parking.

01:16:29Earlier, the traffic warden

01:16:31was given the authority

01:16:33to keep pistols with him.

01:16:35But the results were not good.

01:16:37He had injured many people

01:16:39by firing.

01:16:41But the new CTO,

01:16:43Athar Waheed, has given the authority

01:16:45to put handcuffs

01:16:47to those who do illegal parking.

01:16:49This is an insult

01:16:51to the citizens.

01:16:53He has never seen the police station.

01:16:55He has been given the authority

01:16:57to put handcuffs

01:16:59and send them to the police station.

01:17:01This is not allowed

01:17:03by the law.

01:17:05The traffic warden

01:17:07collects the revenue.

01:17:09Babar,

01:17:11he will also collect the revenue.

01:17:13He will ask for money.

01:17:15But the revenue

01:17:17will not go to the government.

01:17:19It will go to someone else.

01:17:21Apart from collecting the revenue,

01:17:23those who do wrong parking,

01:17:25their cars are picked up

01:17:27by a lifter.

01:17:29The CTO of Lahore

01:17:31has said

01:17:33that these handcuffs

01:17:35are not for wrong parking.

01:17:37They are for parking mafias

01:17:39who illegally park

01:17:41on the roads.

01:17:43This is an act

01:17:45against them.

01:17:47Babar,

01:17:49there will be a process

01:17:51against them.

01:17:53If they file a case against them,

01:17:55then they will be punished.

01:17:57How can you put handcuffs

01:17:59to a citizen

01:18:01without filing a case

01:18:03if he is doing wrong parking?

01:18:05You should come there

01:18:07with the help of the LDA

01:18:09and remove him.

01:18:11It is not the job of the traffic police

01:18:13to do wrong parking.

01:18:15There is a way

01:18:17to do wrong parking.

01:18:19But it is not the job

01:18:21of the traffic police

01:18:23to put handcuffs to a citizen.

01:18:25Babar,

01:18:27everyone can make a mistake,

01:18:29but it is not the job

01:18:31of the traffic police

01:18:33to put handcuffs to a citizen

01:18:35without filing a case.

01:18:37How can you put handcuffs

01:18:39to a citizen

01:18:41without filing a case?

01:18:43How can you put handcuffs

01:18:45to a citizen

01:18:47without filing a case?

01:18:49There is a difference

01:18:51between violating

01:18:53the law and putting handcuffs.

01:18:55If you violate the law,

01:18:57you will be fined.

01:18:59If you violate the law,

01:19:01you will be fined.

01:19:03If you violate the law,

01:19:05you will be fined.

01:19:07If you violate the law,

01:19:09you will be fined.

01:19:11If you violate the law,

01:19:13you will be fined.

01:19:15If you violate the law,

01:19:17you will be fined.

01:19:19If you violate the law,

01:19:21you will be fined.

01:19:23If you violate the law,

01:19:25you will be fined.

01:19:27If you violate the law,

01:19:29you will be fined.

01:19:31If you violate the law,

01:19:33you will be fined.

01:19:35If you violate the law,

01:19:37you will be fined.

01:19:39There should be a difference.

01:19:41Thank you so much, Babar.

01:19:43Hopefully, the Ministry of Interior

01:19:45and the Ministry of Law

01:19:47will take action.

01:19:49I am taking a break.

01:19:51We will be back after the break.

01:19:59The topic that has come up

01:20:01is very close to my heart

01:20:03and to my health.

01:20:05My health is affected

01:20:07by the pandemic.

01:20:09I want this issue to be sorted.

01:20:11When you have an AQI of 270,

01:20:13with PM2.5 particles,

01:20:15when you have difficulty

01:20:17breathing,

01:20:19dust everywhere,

01:20:21dry and cold,

01:20:23this will happen.

01:20:25The flu and other

01:20:27pulmonary diseases

01:20:29are increasing,

01:20:31including pneumonia.

01:20:33Is it because of the weather

01:20:35or is it because of us?

01:20:41Dr. Iqbal Peerzada.

01:20:43Thank you so much.

01:20:45We are calling you again

01:20:47and again.

01:20:49I want to say that

01:20:51our children are also affected.

01:20:55In our society,

01:20:57we adopt many

01:20:59facilities,

01:21:01but they are so weak

01:21:03that our scientific approach

01:21:05is weak.

01:21:07For example,

01:21:09when I was coming to your studio,

01:21:11people were wearing thick coats

01:21:13without masks.

01:21:15They have protected

01:21:17themselves,

01:21:19but they need

01:21:21masks to protect

01:21:23themselves.

01:21:25We have limited it

01:21:27to Covid.

01:21:29Believe me,

01:21:31we have also started

01:21:33wearing masks.

01:21:35Covid has given us

01:21:37awareness.

01:21:41In the days of Covid,

01:21:43people swore to live and die.

01:21:45We swore that we would

01:21:47not leave the mask.

01:21:49Now there is

01:21:51another facility.

01:21:53Women who

01:21:55relatively wear

01:21:57hijab,

01:21:59have also

01:22:01become aware that

01:22:03wearing a mask

01:22:05protects them from pollution.

01:22:07It also protects them from makeup.

01:22:09Men also wear

01:22:11hijab.

01:22:13If we are

01:22:15careful,

01:22:17we are still

01:22:19affected.

01:22:21If a person thinks that

01:22:23he is drinking water,

01:22:25he is on a healthy diet,

01:22:27he is vaccinated,

01:22:29what will happen to him?

01:22:31How much is left?

01:22:33I just said that

01:22:35he does not wear a mask.

01:22:37Be careful.

01:22:39There is a famous saying

01:22:41that it is better to

01:22:43avoid treatment than treatment.

01:22:45But how many times

01:22:47do you have to wear a mask?

01:22:49It is a protocol.

01:22:51You do not have to

01:22:53wash it.

01:22:55We spend money

01:22:57on food.

01:22:59Why do we spend money?

01:23:01To stay alive.

01:23:03When diseases

01:23:05are caused

01:23:07due to pollution,

01:23:09one of the

01:23:11disadvantages is that

01:23:13the cost of doctors,

01:23:15hospitals and clinics

01:23:17increases.

01:23:19We could save money

01:23:21and spend it on our health.

01:23:23It is a matter of understanding.

01:23:25You asked

01:23:27what is the reason for it.

01:23:29Some are in our control

01:23:31and some are in the government's.

01:23:33For example,

01:23:35the traffic

01:23:37and cars that are

01:23:39smoking,

01:23:41we cannot control

01:23:43the quality of it.

01:23:45For that,

01:23:47strict laws

01:23:49and regulations are needed.

01:23:51Secondly,

01:23:53factories

01:23:55in residential areas

01:23:57like in Karachi,

01:23:59the industrial area

01:24:01is connected

01:24:03to the residential area.

01:24:05In the industrial area,

01:24:07are all the conditions

01:24:09being followed

01:24:11to ensure protection?

01:24:13It is not there.

01:24:15What should be done?

01:24:17We have put

01:24:19medicines at home.

01:24:21What should we do?

01:24:23We should try

01:24:25to buy

01:24:27electric cars.

01:24:31That is one precaution.

01:24:33We should

01:24:35use

01:24:37general transport.

01:24:41We should take care

01:24:43of our general health.

01:24:45Our defence forces

01:24:47can do this in the long term.

01:24:49What can we do in the short term?

01:24:51How can we protect

01:24:53our children?

01:24:55We should use

01:24:57masks.

01:24:59We should avoid

01:25:01cotton cloths.

01:25:03I am talking about blankets

01:25:05and blankets with cotton.

01:25:07We should use cotton

01:25:09instead of cotton.

01:25:13We should pray

01:25:15because

01:25:17we have no other option.

01:25:19If a doctor

01:25:21says to a patient

01:25:23to breathe slowly,

01:25:25how can we reduce

01:25:27the air pollution?

01:25:29Does our immunity

01:25:31play a role in this?

01:25:33Our general immunity

01:25:35is of a specific organ.

01:25:37The immunity of our lungs

01:25:39and our general immunity

01:25:41are different.

01:25:43We should

01:25:45use clean water.

01:25:47We should take care

01:25:49of our health.

01:25:51We should eat

01:25:53healthy food.

01:25:55We should not eat

01:25:57expensive food.

01:25:59Healthy food is

01:26:01simple and easy to eat.

01:26:03We should eat clean food.

01:26:05What is the impact

01:26:07of humidifiers

01:26:09on children

01:26:11and the environment?

01:26:15We should use

01:26:17hot water

01:26:19and steam.

01:26:21We should

01:26:23use soup

01:26:25and green tea.

01:26:27We should use

01:26:29lukewarm water.

01:26:31There are many

01:26:33other factors

01:26:35that we should

01:26:37avoid.

01:26:39We should also

01:26:41avoid

01:26:43the use of

01:26:45smoke.

01:26:47In our homes,

01:26:49we see

01:26:51plastic,

01:26:53wood,

01:26:55and coal being burnt.

01:26:57In cities,

01:26:59we see

01:27:01small teahouses

01:27:03with smoke.

01:27:05We should be careful

01:27:07about this.

01:27:17Thank you so much,

01:27:19Mr. Peerzada.

01:27:23God bless you.

01:27:25God bless you.

01:27:27God bless you.

01:27:37God bless you.

01:27:39God bless you.

Bakhabar Savera with Ashfaq Satti and Sadaf Abdul Jabbar | 3rd Jan 2025

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