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00:00:00Bismillah-e-Rahman-e-Rahim, Assalam-o-Alaikum, Wahhabar-e-Sawera, Khusham-e-Jadid, Good morning
00:00:25to you all.
00:00:26My name is Sadaf Abdul Jabbar and I am with Ashfaq Saqsati and I hope you all are well.
00:00:32What do you say Ashfaq?
00:00:33It's very cold today.
00:00:34It feels like summer.
00:00:35Okay, I felt the cold.
00:00:36I don't know, I am surprised that as soon as I got out of the car and reached the office,
00:00:42I felt that the cold was more.
00:00:44Feeling?
00:00:45Or it could also be that the place where you get off and the place where I get off,
00:00:49there is a difference.
00:00:50Maybe that's why I feel it.
00:00:51I feel the same in the whole office.
00:00:52What?
00:00:53In the office, you know.
00:00:54In the office, you know, the environment is controlled.
00:00:57Controlled environment.
00:00:58But anyway, we have our own experiences.
00:01:00You can contact us on the phone number that was not given on the screen and tell us how
00:01:04you felt this morning.
00:01:06Okay, so we will talk about the weather in the future as well.
00:01:09We will tell you how the weather is all over the country.
00:01:12Let's tell you good things first.
00:01:14The match is starting today.
00:01:15Pakistan vs. West Indies.
00:01:16You are saying a good thing with this.
00:01:17Yes.
00:01:18Entertainment.
00:01:19Because we are going all spin attack.
00:01:20Oh, Sajid and Nauman.
00:01:22Sajid and Nauman in Ebrar.
00:01:23In Ebrar.
00:01:24Okay.
00:01:25So you can see that our preparations are complete.
00:01:26The pitch is…
00:01:27We have run the roller on it and we have finished all the moisture from it.
00:01:34So you can understand how the wicket behaves when the moisture is finished.
00:01:38Ask this to Ben Stokes and his team.
00:01:41Yes.
00:01:42So the intention with which the people of England came and went is in front of you.
00:01:46History can be repeated here.
00:01:48Let's move on to the topic.
00:01:50And the issue that we are going to highlight right now.
00:01:54Not one, not two.
00:01:56If I talk for two years, then this incident is repeated in it several times.
00:02:00In every 3-4 months.
00:02:01In every 3-4 months.
00:02:02In spite of making noise, in spite of talking, in spite of giving our prayers, in spite of joining our hands.
00:02:08This process is not stopping.
00:02:11And what is the process?
00:02:12And when the first incident happened.
00:02:13Sadaf, do you remember that boat sinking?
00:02:14Yes.
00:02:15When we said that this is one boat that has sunk.
00:02:17The people who are now making a base in Libya, etc. etc.
00:02:22In the condition they are in, the same thing will happen to them if the government of the time does not think of anything.
00:02:26Okay.
00:02:27There are problems in Pakistan.
00:02:29It is also that you are not getting jobs.
00:02:31The way you want to spend your life, you do not have those facilities and opportunities.
00:02:37True.
00:02:38But this does not mean that you risk your life and wish to go to such a place where your future seems promising.
00:02:47This incident that is being reported at the moment is that the boat that was going to go to Europe illegally once again.
00:02:54The passengers in that boat, that boat sank.
00:02:57And 50 precious lives have gone to the hands of death.
00:03:02Now, this boat sank while going to Spain.
00:03:05Near the port.
00:03:06There are a lot of conspiracies.
00:03:08That they do not want people to come to us illegally.
00:03:13So, such situations are also created.
00:03:15If the boat is about to sink, then they do not even try to save it.
00:03:19However, all the expertise in Europe, all the life-saving equipment is available there.
00:03:25Despite that, no effort is made.
00:03:27And we have seen the value of human lives there in the Gaza incident.
00:03:32You see, there was a war.
00:03:33Yes.
00:03:34Yesterday also, there was an air strike.
00:03:3570 people were killed.
00:03:36Then the second thing is that, first of all, some of the people of the city were cruel.
00:03:41Some of them wanted to kill us.
00:03:43You see, these people from here, 20, 25, 30, 40, depending on where they are going.
00:03:49By giving lakhs of rupees, by selling their own land, or by taking loans.
00:03:52By taking loans.
00:03:53They go like this.
00:03:54These agents go there.
00:03:56They say, do not worry.
00:03:59This will be done.
00:04:00It will be reduced.
00:04:01The boy will be set.
00:04:02The dollar will be sent.
00:04:03The euro will be sent.
00:04:04What happens there is that the boat is parked in the sea.
00:04:08And they say, we are not getting permission ahead.
00:04:10If you give so much more money, then the boat will reach some place.
00:04:13But Ashfaq, you tell me that this is not the time.
00:04:16This is not the time when you do not have access to TV.
00:04:20You do not have access to the news.
00:04:21These people who have gone, they must know that such incidents have happened in the past.
00:04:25The way we are taking, it can take our lives.
00:04:29Despite that, they opted for this.
00:04:31And I am being told that this boat remained in the sea for 8 days.
00:04:36It remained for 8 days.
00:04:37Then they demanded that you do this.
00:04:39Then the authorities there also found out that the boat was standing.
00:04:42They said, if it is standing, then let it stand.
00:04:43Whatever happens later will be seen.
00:04:45And what happened, it sank.
00:04:46No one saved it.
00:04:47But there is one more element in this, Sadaf.
00:04:49You see, the way you said that there is access to everything.
00:04:53But what do they say?
00:04:54Look at our 10-year record.
00:04:58In 10 years, this life and death is in the hands of God.
00:05:00Death will come wherever it has to come.
00:05:02But see, so many successful people have gone.
00:05:04They paint pictures in such a way that these young people do not even think.
00:05:08For example, you are on TikTok, your presence is present at 10 places.
00:05:11So you can also see how many people are being killed in that incident.
00:05:14And nowadays, the rules and laws of these countries have become so strict.
00:05:17Things are not easy.
00:05:47Thank you so much for your time, Rabia.
00:05:57Please tell us, what have you learned so far?
00:06:01Obviously, the police station will also be in contact.
00:06:04Information will be trying to be obtained.
00:06:06What have you learned so far?
00:06:08Yes, thank you so much.
00:06:11Thank you so much.
00:06:12Actually, the Moroccan authorities have shared a list with us.
00:06:16Of 10 confirmed dead bodies that they have recovered off the port of Dakhla.
00:06:22This is a port in the Moroccan southern region.
00:06:25From where they recovered 10 people's dead bodies.
00:06:31They are in the hospital.
00:06:33And they have shared a list of their passport details with us.
00:06:36And their names.
00:06:38Most of the names, they are not matching up with the details that we have on our system.
00:06:43That is why I don't want to give out a list right now.
00:06:46What we are doing is that some of our officials are travelling as we speak to Dakhla.
00:06:53Yes.
00:06:54Okay.
00:06:56Okay.
00:06:57So, Rabia, please tell me, how many Pakistani passengers were on the boat?
00:07:02And those who have been rescued, please tell us about their condition.
00:07:09Moroccan authorities have also shared with us that 35 people have survived in this tragic incident.
00:07:16They have been kept in a camp.
00:07:18Not all of them are Pakistanis.
00:07:20They have not shared any details with us of those people.
00:07:23Some of them are carrying documents.
00:07:25Some of them are not carrying documents.
00:07:27So, where will our officials go?
00:07:29They will interview each one of them.
00:07:31And on the basis of that, they will have a national verification status.
00:07:34And then on the basis of this information, I will be able to give out a complete consolidated list of all those Pakistanis that survived this very tragic incident.
00:07:43Okay. There are also survivors in this.
00:07:45And about the people we are telling that 50 people have lost their lives.
00:07:50You said that some people did not even have documents.
00:07:53So, to what extent has the process of identification reached?
00:07:56And when will it be completed?
00:08:02Pakistan Embassy Rabat is completely in touch with Moroccan authorities here.
00:08:08We are in touch with the local foreign office as well as the police authorities in Dakhla.
00:08:14Apart from this, we are in constant contact with the families of those people who are contacting us.
00:08:23Okay. And you said that the family is contacting.
00:08:25So, is there any helpline so that people can contact the victims?
00:08:31Helpline has been established.
00:08:3724-hour emergency unit.
00:08:39Ministry of Foreign Affairs has been established in Islamabad.
00:08:42Apart from this, my details and the details of my counsellor assistant, Noman, have been shared on the Ministry of Foreign Affairs website.
00:08:50Anybody can contact us.
00:08:52Thank you so much, Rabia.
00:08:55Rabia Khosuri was with us.
00:08:57The helpline is also available.
00:08:59But the numbers have not been confirmed yet.
00:09:02The numbers are obvious.
00:09:04Only the Moroccan authorities have access to the information.
00:09:07Only those who share the numbers will be able to verify it.
00:09:10So, it is obvious that they will be able to verify it through digital media, social media and here and there.
00:09:14Because there are many people who are on it.
00:09:17Representative Amir Butt is with us.
00:09:19Let's talk to him.
00:09:20Amir, tell us.
00:09:22Out of 44 Pakistanis, 12 belong to Gujarat.
00:09:26What details have you obtained about these Pakistanis in Gujarat?
00:09:31Out of 12 Gujaratis, 3 belong to Jodha Karnana.
00:09:37There is a village called Dillu nearby.
00:09:40There were 2 cousins.
00:09:43There is another village called Gorku.
00:09:46There were 2 boys from that village.
00:09:48A total of 12 people were verified last night.
00:09:52Let me clarify one thing.
00:09:54The people who have reached there, the revelations they have made are very strange.
00:09:58One of them is a boy from Jodha Karnana.
00:10:01He has told everyone.
00:10:03He has verified the whole family.
00:10:05That boy has called each house.
00:10:07He was their friend.
00:10:08All of them were friends.
00:10:09He was from a nearby village.
00:10:11He has pointed out to everyone.
00:10:13If we stay in the sea for 8 days.
00:10:15If a ship passes by and keeps looking at us.
00:10:19It was a distance of 400 km from where the ship was standing.
00:10:24Then the foreigners threw him into the sea.
00:10:32He says that they have come with great difficulty.
00:10:35They have come to help us.
00:10:37They have helped us to get out of here.
00:10:39When the media made a fuss about it.
00:10:41When the news was spread on social media.
00:10:44Then it became an emergency.
00:10:46Yesterday when I spoke to the FIA.
00:10:48They refused.
00:10:50They said that they do not know about this.
00:10:52They are listening to you.
00:10:54It was very surprising.
00:10:56The ship left on 2nd.
00:10:58It stayed in the sea for 8 days.
00:11:00It was such a big incident.
00:11:02All the families came to know.
00:11:04The people have cremated there.
00:11:06The FIA is still missing.
00:11:08They do not know anything.
00:11:10They say that they leave because their families do not tell them the truth.
00:11:16If they do not tell us the truth.
00:11:18What do they do there?
00:11:20What does their investigation do?
00:11:22When they do not have a real agent.
00:11:24When they are not caught.
00:11:26This is what happens.
00:11:28This is how people leave.
00:11:30These people have wonderful dreams.
00:11:32I will tell you one more thing.
00:11:34In the district of Gujarat.
00:11:36This is the only district in Pakistan.
00:11:38The most people from Pakistan are from Gujarat.
00:11:40The most people are from Europe.
00:11:42The most people from Canada.
00:11:44The most people are from Gujarat.
00:11:46The people of the market are from Bahawalpur.
00:11:48The people of Mirpur.
00:11:50The most are from Gujarat.
00:11:52Let's talk about this further.
00:11:54Thank you very much for being with us.
00:11:56In the shipwreck.
00:11:58A drowning friend of Umar Farooq.
00:12:00I will only say that the list is there.
00:12:02Many things are still left to be compiled.
00:12:04Umar was also on this ship.
00:12:06Umar was also on that boat, so let's talk to his friend Israar Asghar.
00:12:11Israar, thank you very much for giving us your time.
00:12:13I'm sure you must be in a very sad state.
00:12:16We are also very worried to see that our Pakistani brothers leave from here
00:12:21and choose a path that at times is not successful and their lives are lost.
00:12:28What would you like to say about this friend of yours?
00:12:32When did he leave from here? How was he contacted?
00:12:36What was the reason that he was ready to leave from here?
00:12:39The reason was that the country he was going to was for a better future.
00:12:44He said that he wanted to go abroad.
00:12:46Okay.
00:12:47So, how was your friend's financial situation?
00:12:51He had no job here. Why did he want to go there?
00:12:57He had no job here, so he used to work in a carpentry shop.
00:13:03Okay.
00:13:04The salary is very low there.
00:13:06Yes.
00:13:07The salary is 10,000-12,000 and the salary is 15,000.
00:13:10Okay.
00:13:11Did his family know that he was going abroad?
00:13:15How did he manage to get so much money?
00:13:18How did he manage to go abroad?
00:13:20He took money from his friends and relatives.
00:13:25He said that once he's done with the war, he'll take us to Bahia.
00:13:29Okay.
00:13:30He'll take us to Bahia, Mauritania, and then to Spain.
00:13:34Okay.
00:13:35So, he went to Bahia first.
00:13:39Okay.
00:13:40It took him 4 months to get there.
00:13:43He said after a week that he'd take us.
00:13:47It took him 4 months to get there.
00:13:50Okay.
00:13:51So, two days after our last meeting, he told us that he is taking us on a ship.
00:14:02Okay.
00:14:03So, he took four days.
00:14:05In four days, this game will reach the same border.
00:14:09Okay.
00:14:10So, he was told to go by air, but…
00:14:12By the way, how did you go from here?
00:14:14How did you go from here?
00:14:15And to which place did you go?
00:14:16We went by air to Mauritania.
00:14:17To where?
00:14:18Mauritania.
00:14:19Okay, to Mauritania.
00:14:20He went by air to Mauritania.
00:14:21Okay, he went by air to Mauritania.
00:14:23And the visa…
00:14:24Obviously, he must have gone there with a passport and visa.
00:14:27Yes, absolutely.
00:14:28Okay, and after that, his visa was to Mauritania.
00:14:31And after that, he had to go to Spain.
00:14:33Spain.
00:14:34Okay.
00:14:35So, you are telling me that he stayed there for four months.
00:14:39Yes, four months.
00:14:41Four months passed in a week.
00:14:44So, where did you stay there?
00:14:46And did you get in touch with him?
00:14:49We got in touch with him.
00:14:50He had taken a pass.
00:14:53Okay.
00:14:54So, there were about a hundred total people there.
00:14:58Okay.
00:14:59So, you insisted…
00:15:00So…
00:15:01Okay.
00:15:02You tell me.
00:15:03Yes, there were about a hundred people there.
00:15:05So, he used to contact us.
00:15:06He used to contact us.
00:15:08Okay.
00:15:09So, he used to tell us what the visa was, what he was going to take,
00:15:11what he was going to take the day after tomorrow, and so on.
00:15:13Four months passed.
00:15:15So, two days later, he told us that he had already boarded the ship.
00:15:18Okay.
00:15:19There were 86 people in total.
00:15:22Okay.
00:15:23There were 65 Pakistanis and 21 or 22 local Mauritanians.
00:15:29Okay.
00:15:30Yes.
00:15:31So, you insisted…
00:15:32Obviously, there is a time when a person feels that,
00:15:36no, this is not right.
00:15:39Something is wrong.
00:15:40Did you ever feel that way?
00:15:41Or is it a routine thing?
00:15:43It is a routine thing.
00:15:44It used to be a routine thing.
00:15:45And when people used to ask us something,
00:15:47when we used to call them,
00:15:48their hearts used to get fresh again.
00:15:50Okay.
00:15:51It is not a big deal.
00:15:52It is not difficult.
00:15:53We go there.
00:15:54It has been four months.
00:15:55We have come from home.
00:15:56We have also taken breaths.
00:15:57So, a person keeps getting these doubts.
00:15:59Okay.
00:16:00Okay, Israan, tell me one thing.
00:16:02Why did your friends go there?
00:16:04Did anyone tell them that if they go there,
00:16:06they will get a lot of facilities,
00:16:08they will get a good job,
00:16:09life will become easier?
00:16:11What did they think before going there?
00:16:13Or was it their wish?
00:16:14What did you talk to them about?
00:16:16It was their wish to go abroad for Europe.
00:16:18And secondly, madam,
00:16:19when they are going abroad,
00:16:20they say that they don't like sports.
00:16:22Okay.
00:16:23That's why they go there,
00:16:24for a better future.
00:16:26Okay.
00:16:27Now, who else is there in his family, Israar?
00:16:30Is there anyone who earns?
00:16:31And how much money did the agent take from him,
00:16:33in total?
00:16:35In total, madam,
00:16:36it was after 30 or 35.
00:16:39He gave me half of the payment.
00:16:42Okay.
00:16:44So, he gave you half of the payment,
00:16:46and you had to go there and give the other half.
00:16:48Yes, I had to go there and give the other half.
00:16:51So, how are his family members doing?
00:16:53Is there anyone else who earns?
00:16:54How did you find out about this?
00:16:56I have a brother, he works here.
00:16:59He works in Pakistan.
00:17:02Okay.
00:17:04Okay, you pray that
00:17:07Allah gives patience to his family.
00:17:09May Allah give patience to his family.
00:17:10You also give patience.
00:17:11Thank you very much, Israar,
00:17:12you were with us.
00:17:13We tried,
00:17:14obviously,
00:17:15to talk to a close friend of a victim,
00:17:18to find out what the situation is.
00:17:20Now, you understand,
00:17:21that he used to work for 15,000-20,000 rupees,
00:17:24Pakistani, young Pakistani,
00:17:26goes abroad,
00:17:27leaving his family behind.
00:17:29Okay, Sajjad,
00:17:30Mr. Mustafa Bajwa is with us.
00:17:32Whenever there is an issue like this,
00:17:33we take him and talk to him.
00:17:36He is a former director.
00:17:38He used to deal with FIA human trafficking cases.
00:17:41Thank you so much, Mr. Sajjad.
00:17:42You took out time for us.
00:17:44We talk to you,
00:17:45or we raise our voice,
00:17:46but these incidents do not stop.
00:17:49We spoke to a young man in this incident.
00:17:52You can imagine,
00:17:53he used to work for 12,000-15,000 rupees.
00:17:55At that time, in Pakistan,
00:17:56I think the minimum salary here is 35,000-37,000 rupees.
00:18:0037,000 rupees.
00:18:01That person,
00:18:02for 12,000-15,000 rupees,
00:18:03I am talking about the responsibility of the state.
00:18:06Just think,
00:18:07where is 37,000 and where is 12,000-15,000?
00:18:09With loans,
00:18:10maybe he sold jewellery,
00:18:12as Sadaf said,
00:18:13or there may be other issues.
00:18:15In 35,000 rupees,
00:18:16the deal was made.
00:18:17Half of the money was given,
00:18:18and the other half was to be given there.
00:18:19So, what is your assessment,
00:18:21that this network is running in the same way
00:18:23as it was running,
00:18:24and people's helplessness is in its place.
00:18:26What happens in 12,000?
00:18:29Look,
00:18:30in a general public,
00:18:31the young generation is hopeless,
00:18:33whether they are educated,
00:18:34whether they have a degree,
00:18:36or they are not properly educated.
00:18:39And every young child is ready to go abroad.
00:18:43Even boys are ready to take money from their parents.
00:18:48And you can imagine,
00:18:50that they are risking their lives,
00:18:52they are taking risks.
00:18:53Some might be able to do it,
00:18:55some might not be able to.
00:18:57But there are a lot of people
00:18:59who know this,
00:19:00and they are taking risks.
00:19:02In this,
00:19:03it is the responsibility of the parents,
00:19:05of the people,
00:19:06of themselves,
00:19:07that if they are alive,
00:19:08then they are alive.
00:19:09But on the other hand,
00:19:10it is the responsibility of the state.
00:19:12You see,
00:19:13the Prime Minister takes a notice,
00:19:15and after the notice,
00:19:17things go down,
00:19:19and the matter continues.
00:19:21Even now,
00:19:22it is not just a matter of the notice.
00:19:24If the Prime Minister
00:19:26takes a day-to-day update on this,
00:19:28if he makes any progress on this,
00:19:30and keeps a regular check-up on this,
00:19:33to see what progress is being made,
00:19:36then a result will come.
00:19:38If this does not happen,
00:19:40then,
00:19:41as before,
00:19:42the notice will be like this,
00:19:43and the result will be nothing.
00:19:45That is fine with you,
00:19:46because I remember the last incident,
00:19:48there was a lot of discussion on it.
00:19:50There was a lot of investigation on it.
00:19:53This is not a department's job.
00:19:55Yes.
00:19:56But the FIA also has some responsibilities.
00:19:59The FIA's job is local.
00:20:01And it also has the responsibility of the Foreign Office.
00:20:06And the Ministry of Interior,
00:20:08and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs,
00:20:10share data with each other.
00:20:12Involve Interpol.
00:20:13Involve the international institutions,
00:20:15which work on anti-human trafficking.
00:20:18And you see,
00:20:19they were talking to you,
00:20:21and everyone was in touch.
00:20:23In the past,
00:20:24they had mobile phones.
00:20:26In today's world,
00:20:27if so many people had mobile phones,
00:20:29to trace them,
00:20:30to trace their location,
00:20:32and the institutions there,
00:20:34whether in Mauritania,
00:20:35or in Libya,
00:20:36I am saying this,
00:20:37we often talk about this,
00:20:39but your former institution,
00:20:42the counterparts of the FIA,
00:20:44they do not know this.
00:20:47And secondly,
00:20:4830-45 lakhs is a big amount.
00:20:52If they start a small business here,
00:20:56it will be better.
00:20:59Instead of finding easy ways there.
00:21:02And especially the relevant government,
00:21:05for example,
00:21:06if 60-70 people were living in Mauritania,
00:21:08the government would not know
00:21:10that so many people came here.
00:21:11And I am sure,
00:21:12the visa is not for 6 months or 4 months.
00:21:14I think it is for 1.5 to 2 months initially.
00:21:16That would also expire there.
00:21:18So you cannot talk to them,
00:21:20Mr. Prime Minister,
00:21:21or anything like that.
00:21:22The internal cleanliness is in its own place,
00:21:24but you can contact them there.
00:21:26First of all,
00:21:27we should collect our data,
00:21:29how many people will be there.
00:21:31And after that,
00:21:32the Foreign Office,
00:21:33our mission there,
00:21:35it is their responsibility
00:21:37to work with the local authorities.
00:21:41And the people who are there,
00:21:44the issue is not that
00:21:46those who have gone,
00:21:47those who have died,
00:21:49the issue is that
00:21:50those who are present there now,
00:21:52those who are in Mauritania,
00:21:53those who are in Libya,
00:21:54those who were there earlier,
00:21:55you must remember,
00:21:56I am repeating this again and again,
00:21:58those who have reached there,
00:22:00those who are in hundreds,
00:22:01those who are in thousands,
00:22:02those who are in how many,
00:22:03those who were there earlier…
00:22:04Mr. Sajjad, tell me one thing.
00:22:05Tell me one thing,
00:22:06out of all the Pakistanis from Gujarat,
00:22:09only 12 belonged to Gujarat.
00:22:12And their friends,
00:22:14the victims,
00:22:15their friends were telling me
00:22:16that a lot of people go there
00:22:18and from Mandi Bahauddin
00:22:20and other areas.
00:22:21How difficult is it
00:22:22to find out about these agents
00:22:24when they are in so much contact,
00:22:26in contact from outside,
00:22:27in contact from here,
00:22:28half the amount has been received,
00:22:29not received.
00:22:3012 families can give you details.
00:22:3212 families,
00:22:3312 people who have gone,
00:22:34their friends can give you details.
00:22:36So is there no law?
00:22:38Or is there no compliance with the law?
00:22:40What is the problem?
00:22:43See, if there is proper compliance,
00:22:45the intention is right,
00:22:46and from top to bottom,
00:22:47every person should fulfill
00:22:49their duty and responsibility.
00:22:51So this system cannot work.
00:22:53It cannot be that it will continue to work
00:22:55and instead of increasing,
00:22:57it should decrease.
00:22:58But day by day,
00:22:59it is increasing
00:23:00and you will find in Gujarat
00:23:02and in Gujranwala,
00:23:04not hundreds,
00:23:05but thousands of agents
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00:51:05How was the meeting?
00:51:07Do you have any expectations for the future?
00:51:14I think the talks will continue.
00:51:19Before the talks,
00:51:20during the talks,
00:51:21since they started,
00:51:23there has been a lot of firing.
00:51:28But when we sit inside,
00:51:31the environment in which
00:51:32the meeting took place yesterday,
00:51:33was so civilized that
00:51:35I couldn't believe that
00:51:37some people whom I thought
00:51:39were big hawks
00:51:40and who would attack,
00:51:42were actually cooperating
00:51:44and were trying to
00:51:45move the talks forward.
00:51:47And I appreciate that
00:51:49Ali Ameen Ghandapur's character
00:51:52was there in the last meeting
00:51:54and also in yesterday's meeting.
00:51:56But I also said in the meeting
00:51:58that I had started this,
00:52:01that the language of the Charter of Demands
00:52:05could have been much better.
00:52:08For example,
00:52:09if you want to target?
00:52:11Look, I told them that
00:52:13this government has been manipulated.
00:52:16And after that,
00:52:18they wrote that
00:52:19our people,
00:52:20our martyrs,
00:52:21about them,
00:52:22and other things
00:52:23they have told.
00:52:24Although,
00:52:25in the second meeting,
00:52:26they were repeatedly told
00:52:28to bring that list,
00:52:30which you are saying
00:52:32that our people
00:52:34are either missing
00:52:36or martyred,
00:52:38so give them a list
00:52:39so that we can check them.
00:52:41But they don't bring the list in front
00:52:43and then they talk.
00:52:45The second thing is that
00:52:47a problem,
00:52:49according to me,
00:52:51there are 2-3 things
00:52:52which I will mention.
00:52:53One is that
00:52:54People's Party,
00:52:55PTI, sorry,
00:52:56PTI,
00:52:57PTI wants to maintain
00:52:59its narrative.
00:53:01It wants to tell the public
00:53:03that we don't want to
00:53:05shake hands with them at all.
00:53:07And we will see that
00:53:09we have made them sit with us
00:53:11and now we have put them down.
00:53:13They want to maintain the narrative
00:53:15and also show flexibility.
00:53:17Because there are some elements
00:53:19in both the parties
00:53:21which do not want
00:53:23the king to move forward
00:53:25So to keep them
00:53:27satisfied,
00:53:29all these things
00:53:31are happening.
00:53:33The second thing is that
00:53:35the demands they have given,
00:53:37they have Salman Akram Raja
00:53:39as a member of the committee,
00:53:41who is a very big lawyer,
00:53:43but they have not seen
00:53:45that to make a submission,
00:53:47you cannot give a dictation
00:53:49to the Supreme Court,
00:53:51you can request the Supreme Court.
00:53:53This is our demand,
00:53:55this is our TOR,
00:53:57you can make a commission.
00:53:59So that commission will be made
00:54:01by the Supreme Court.
00:54:03Neither the government
00:54:05nor the opposition can decide
00:54:07whether to bring a judge or not.
00:54:09But who will initiate
00:54:11this request?
00:54:13And Rana Sanawallah
00:54:15is saying that there is no
00:54:17justification for this
00:54:19of the Judicial Commission.
00:54:21The government has not
00:54:23initiated a press conference
00:54:25yesterday,
00:54:27in which all the jihadi
00:54:29Jamaats were not
00:54:31taken on board.
00:54:33After that,
00:54:35a sub-committee has been
00:54:37formed, the law minister
00:54:39will come, all the Jamaats
00:54:41will sit in it,
00:54:43then they will see
00:54:45whether the commission
00:54:47can be made or not.
00:54:49If there is firing and charging,
00:54:51it does not mean that you
00:54:53can call a deadlock.
00:54:55Normally, you have
00:54:57requested the Government of Pakistan.
00:54:59You mean that
00:55:01I should talk about their PTI.
00:55:03But now, the request
00:55:05that Sadaf has made,
00:55:07the government will give it to the Supreme Court
00:55:09and then who will decide
00:55:11its TOR, mandate,
00:55:13time frame, who will decide
00:55:15all these things?
00:55:17The government will request,
00:55:19but with caution of the PTI and the opposition.
00:55:21The committee that is sitting,
00:55:23the committee will make the TORs.
00:55:25The first thing is that
00:55:27the government has to agree
00:55:29whether the commission can be made or not.
00:55:31And if the commission
00:55:33can be made, then what
00:55:35is your opinion?
00:55:37You are also a part of that committee.
00:55:41I think that when
00:55:43our sub-committee meeting will take place,
00:55:45the legal aspects will be revealed.
00:55:47After that, we will be able to tell
00:55:49the current situation.
00:55:51Let me give you one more point.
00:55:53Can the commission be made
00:55:55on those cases
00:55:57which are sub-judges?
00:55:59This is a very big question.
00:56:01If the commission cannot be made
00:56:03on those cases which are sub-judges,
00:56:05then all the cases that we are talking about,
00:56:07i.e. 9th May, 26th May,
00:56:09all those cases are sub-judges.
00:56:11They are running in the courts.
00:56:13A supreme body can be formed
00:56:15on those courts.
00:56:17A judicial commission
00:56:19can be formed.
00:56:21A commission will be formed on a commission.
00:56:23A court will be formed on a court.
00:56:25After seeing all these things,
00:56:27our point of view will be revealed.
00:56:31Thank you very much.
00:56:33We have with us Mr. Jazil Haq.
00:56:35Everyone is waiting for his
00:56:37joke.
00:56:39Let's see what will happen
00:56:41You are going to talk about
00:56:43an important match
00:56:45which is going to start from today.
00:56:47For which you are also excited.
00:56:49Yes, I am very excited.
00:56:51But since it is for 5 days,
00:56:53you have some time to show your excitement.
00:56:55You are partially excited.
00:56:57There are parts where you are excited
00:56:59and some dull parts.
00:57:01The beauty of a test match is that
00:57:03there is no excitement at all.
00:57:05The only fast bowler in the team
00:57:07is Khurram Shehzad.
00:57:09We have been winning
00:57:11our series from West Indies for a long time.
00:57:13After 8 years,
00:57:15we might win a test match.
00:57:17But our expectations are high.
00:57:19We have worked so hard for this match.
00:57:21We will not win even now.
00:57:23We have defeated England.
00:57:25Noman, who was supposed to be played
00:57:27in South Africa, was not played.
00:57:29He was taken along but was not played.
00:57:31Sajid is also being given a chance.
00:57:33It is a home series.
00:57:35Let's see what happens.
00:57:37Let's give you an update
00:57:39about Saim.
00:57:41His injury is the reason
00:57:43why he is in London.
00:57:45He was sent with Nazar Mahmood.
00:57:47But I saw him in the drafting.
00:57:49He was alone.
00:57:51We will keep you updated
00:57:53about the match.
00:57:55Let's go to Sindh Assembly
00:57:57where Sharjeel Inam Memon
00:57:59is going to talk.
00:58:01We will go from Texas.
00:58:03I asked him why.
00:58:05I will tell you.
00:58:07We have taken a loan
00:58:09from the Asian Development Bank.
00:58:11I have never spoken
00:58:13about this publicly.
00:58:15I am sitting on the floor of the Assembly.
00:58:17I have full authority
00:58:19to ask questions.
00:58:21As a minister, this is my responsibility
00:58:23to answer all your grievances.
00:58:25I cannot keep you here
00:58:27in the grey area.
00:58:29I told him
00:58:31about the Asian Development Bank project.
00:58:33He complained about it.
00:58:35The Asian Development Bank
00:58:37has come to solve
00:58:39his grievances.
00:58:41If I start solving
00:58:43grievances like this,
00:58:45the entire corridor
00:58:47will become a BRT.
00:58:49There will be no commercial
00:58:51activities on the main road.
00:58:53Everyone will start
00:58:55asking for their grievances.
00:58:57We have taken a stand.
00:58:59The Asian Development Bank
00:59:01has come to solve
00:59:03their grievances.
00:59:05We have taken a stand.
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01:01:49Tell us about the pitch.
01:01:51How hard has it been to prepare?
01:01:53Abrar, Sajid, Noman
01:01:55have said that
01:01:57preparation is enough.
01:01:59What kind of pitch has been prepared?
01:02:03The foreigners call it
01:02:05Horses for Courses.
01:02:07This is a course in which you need spinners.
01:02:09This time, we had to pitch in a lot of tents.
01:02:11The pitch was completely covered.
01:02:13No one was allowed to see it.
01:02:15We tried to make it dry.
01:02:17In winters, it is difficult to dry the pitch.
01:02:19There is fog.
01:02:21Because of this fog, the toss has not been done yet.
01:02:23I don't understand.
01:02:25If there was fog,
01:02:27the game could not have started.
01:02:29But the toss was done so that the team could prepare.
01:02:31The toss has not been done yet.
01:02:33I think the fog
01:02:35will go away by 11-12 pm.
01:02:39That's right.
01:02:41Usually, the fog clears quickly.
01:02:43But if it doesn't clear in the early morning,
01:02:45it will take a lot of time.
01:02:47This is a problem in Punjab.
01:02:49The work is also being done on this.
01:02:51The fog makes life very dependent.
01:02:53It hits so badly
01:02:55that there is no traffic.
01:02:57Income and time are also affected.
01:02:59Business and life are affected.
01:03:03Mr. Shahid, please tell us
01:03:05that there is very little time
01:03:07in the Champions Trophy.
01:03:09How are our preparations?
01:03:11How much preparation
01:03:13are you going to host the Champions Trophy?
01:03:17There is complete preparation.
01:03:19Pakistan has written to the International Cricket Council
01:03:21for the opening ceremony.
01:03:23If it starts on 19th February,
01:03:25we want to hold a colorful event
01:03:27on 17th February in Karachi.
01:03:29We want to show the world
01:03:31how ready we are.
01:03:33What kind of a nation we are.
01:03:35Our security has improved a lot.
01:03:37We have given the complete plan
01:03:39for the opening ceremony.
01:03:41India's captain Rohit Sharma
01:03:43is also expected to come.
01:03:45There will be a photoshoot.
01:03:47The former secretary of the BCCI,
01:03:49who is now the chairman of the ICC,
01:03:51Jai Shah,
01:03:53is also expected to come.
01:03:55Pakistan is fully prepared.
01:03:57Upgradation is almost complete.
01:03:59It was a little behind time
01:04:01because of the fog.
01:04:03But there is nothing to worry about.
01:04:05Pakistan will be fully prepared
01:04:07before 19th February.
01:04:09We have taken a wise step
01:04:11by the Pakistan Cricket Board
01:04:13and shifted the matches
01:04:15from Multan to Karachi and Laos
01:04:17so that the world knows
01:04:19that there will be a tri-series
01:04:21before the Champions Shopping.
01:04:23We are fully prepared.
01:04:25Thank you so much, Mr. Ashmi.
01:04:27We will take a break.
01:04:29We will be right back.
01:04:31We will be right back.
01:04:33We will be right back.
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01:10:37We are not accepting them as vice-chancellors because what other things have the bureaucrats improved?
01:10:43Tell us a model, a department, a sector that has been improved by the bureaucrats,
01:10:51so they will come to the universities and improve it.
01:10:54So, apart from that, we also had another request in which there was an issue of the approval of the Assata Zaha.
01:11:00They are asking us to apply for the contract.
01:11:03So, we had also received that.
01:11:05So, we had called for a general body meeting in Karachi two days ago,
01:11:11for the process and chapter.
01:11:13It has been given that until the amendment to the vice-chancellor's speech is brought,
01:11:19it will not be taken back.
01:11:21And until the notification of the permanent foundation of the Assata Zaha is not given,
01:11:29our protest will continue.
01:11:32But tell me one thing, what is the opinion of the Higher Education Commission on this?
01:11:39Mr. Mukhtar, who is the chairman, he is a knowledgeable person,
01:11:44but have you spoken to him?
01:11:46What is his stake in this?
01:11:48How can he assist?
01:11:50This is the Higher Education Sindh, because this issue is of the Sindh government.
01:11:56We have met him only in Sindh.
01:12:01Okay.
01:12:02Okay.
01:12:03So, what has been said from his side, from the Sindh chapter?
01:12:06When we met him, our delegation, I was also a part of it,
01:12:10he said that we do not get candidates in this.
01:12:15That is why we are thinking of increasing the base, but this is early.
01:12:20And it does not seem practical that we will increase it further.
01:12:23We are giving you assurance.
01:12:25So, they said that we will give you a written clarification.
01:12:30We waited for 15-20 days, contacted them repeatedly,
01:12:34but they did not fulfill their commitment.
01:12:38Okay.
01:12:39So, obviously, you have raised this issue, there is also a protest.
01:12:45Are the students also against the government's decision?
01:12:49Has anything been said from their side in this situation?
01:12:54Regarding the students, the Student Wing of the Islamic Community in Karachi
01:12:59also announced our support.
01:13:02Two days ago, they also received a press release.
01:13:05And now, this is a loss for the students only.
01:13:08Definitely.
01:13:09Because when the institutions are closed, it is a loss for the students only.
01:13:12And they also think that when bureaucrats come, they do not know.
01:13:17To make the students better, to understand their issues,
01:13:21an academician can understand them better.
01:13:25They can make their academic programs,
01:13:31which are better according to the market.
01:13:34And these bureaucrats will see the students in a business way.
01:13:39Okay. Let's go.
01:13:40Let's go. Thank you so much.
01:13:42Let's hope that this issue is resolved amicably.
01:13:45Professor Iqtiyar was with us today. Thank you very much.
01:13:48It's time to take a break. We will be back after the break.
01:13:54Welcome back once again.
01:13:55And nowadays, we call the season of Karachi as the season of cold.
01:13:59In the season of cold, where there are a lot of fruits and vegetables,
01:14:03there is one more thing.
01:14:04What is that?
01:14:05Cough, cold, sore throat, headache, all these problems.
01:14:09And since there is a lot of development work going on in Karachi,
01:14:12even if there is a season of cold, there is a season of dust.
01:14:14The dust is everywhere.
01:14:16It seems that the development work of Karachi is also a trust work,
01:14:20that it does not end.
01:14:21So, the road construction is done when the road construction is complete.
01:14:28After that, everyone remembers that the sewage line has to go here,
01:14:32the fiber line has to go here, the optical fiber line has to go here,
01:14:35and some other lines have to be laid here.
01:14:37Okay, stop it.
01:14:38Okay, we are going to talk here that due to the lack of immunity,
01:14:42people are often affected by seasonal effects.
01:14:45How to increase that?
01:14:46What should be done for that?
01:14:47What should be done?
01:14:48So, with us is the herbalist, Mr. Ghalib Agha.
01:14:51Thank you so much for your time.
01:14:53Why are you looking so tall today?
01:14:55Today, I am in this kind of chair.
01:14:57Your height does not increase.
01:14:59Did you find any wisdom to increase your height?
01:15:07No, this is the wonder of the whole chair.
01:15:08The wonder of the whole chair.
01:15:09The whole game is of the chair.
01:15:11Okay, now let's come to the situation that the immunity does not increase due to food.
01:15:17The reason is that the vegetables where they are growing,
01:15:20it is known that there is acid in the water.
01:15:22The meat, due to that, the problems are created in their own place.
01:15:25We burn it and take out its life.
01:15:27We also kill the vegetables.
01:15:28Absolutely.
01:15:29We do not leave any flavor in it.
01:15:31This is a practice that you roast it so much that it becomes completely dirty.
01:15:34Yes.
01:15:35This is such a bad practice that whenever vegetables should be made,
01:15:38they should be a little crunchy.
01:15:40So, its flavor and its taste remains.
01:15:43It can give you a lot of benefit.
01:15:45As much benefit is present in that vegetable as of today.
01:15:48As you said that it did not grow as it should or as we get naturally.
01:15:54Now, I will say that a lot of things are getting hybrid.
01:15:57Hybrid.
01:15:58To increase the quantity of production.
01:16:00Still, if we talk about natural things,
01:16:02the best thing right now is quinoa or all citrus fruits that are available in the market.
01:16:08Comparatively, if I talk, there are still some things that we can say that we can take advantage of.
01:16:14Pomegranate has also come in this season.
01:16:15Pomegranate is very good.
01:16:16There is quinoa.
01:16:17Guava is full of vitamin C.
01:16:19In this season, amla, which is purely amla, is coming.
01:16:23If a small seed is taken on a daily basis,
01:16:26then it gives the best ability to your immunity cells.
01:16:30If we talk about this,
01:16:32we understand that immunity is only related to food and nothing else.
01:16:36No, it is not like that.
01:16:37If the intake of water is not proper,
01:16:39you are not hydrated,
01:16:41or our sodium levels,
01:16:44which we call electrolytes imbalance,
01:16:46even if it is there,
01:16:47immunity cannot be developed,
01:16:49it cannot be correct.
01:16:50If the stress level is too high,
01:16:52then immunity cannot be maintained.
01:16:54Along with that,
01:16:55if your gut health is bad,
01:16:56if you have stomach ailments,
01:16:58then also you lag a lot in immunity.
01:17:00It is not only related to the throat,
01:17:02it is related to overall immunity.
01:17:03There are some things,
01:17:04for example,
01:17:05like you told about quinoa,
01:17:07to improve your gut health,
01:17:08take probiotics,
01:17:09use yogurt.
01:17:10Yogurt is the best probiotic.
01:17:12So, you have started making Greek yogurt at home.
01:17:14I have started making Greek yogurt.
01:17:15Greek yogurt is the best.
01:17:16You should also start selling,
01:17:17because in some time,
01:17:18if your salary is not on time.
01:17:19Okay, tell me too.
01:17:21I have been doing marketing from the beginning.
01:17:22Greek yogurt is just a normal thing.
01:17:24People don't know what Greek yogurt is.
01:17:26If you take out the water from the normal yogurt,
01:17:28then it becomes Greek yogurt.
01:17:29We don't know.
01:17:30It has a creamy texture.
01:17:31It is so expensive.
01:17:32You can add fruit,
01:17:34flaxseeds,
01:17:35it is a great breakfast.
01:17:36Some people add chia seeds,
01:17:37it is very helpful for weight loss.
01:17:39Some people add spagol ki bhusi,
01:17:41some people add flaxseeds.
01:17:43It can be a great breakfast.
01:17:45Tell me one thing,
01:17:46I was discussing with Sadaf that day,
01:17:48everything that we get in the processed market,
01:17:51the cans,
01:17:52the mushrooms,
01:17:54the olives that are dipped in water,
01:17:56and other things,
01:17:58the canned mushrooms,
01:18:00how are they processed?
01:18:02Is it okay to consume them?
01:18:03Sir, I always say that
01:18:04the processed things,
01:18:06the things that you have made
01:18:08for a long life,
01:18:10they are harmful for you.
01:18:12The benefits,
01:18:13like I normally talk about olives,
01:18:15they are dipped in citric acid.
01:18:17If you keep it out for a few days,
01:18:19it causes fungus within a few days.
01:18:21So obviously,
01:18:22the chemical that is being procured in the stomach,
01:18:24the preservatives that are added to it,
01:18:26when it is procuring it,
01:18:28it goes into your stomach,
01:18:30it has reduced its ability.
01:18:32It is not fresh.
01:18:34It is harmful.
01:18:36Tell me,
01:18:37there are seasonal effects,
01:18:38cold, cough, fever,
01:18:39there are a lot of issues.
01:18:41What is our solution?
01:18:42We will make tea,
01:18:43drink coffee,
01:18:44drink joshanda,
01:18:45or take tablets.
01:18:46What else should we do?
01:18:48To increase our immunity.
01:18:49To increase immunity,
01:18:50citrus fruit is very important.
01:18:52Along with that,
01:18:53because there are a lot of throat issues,
01:18:55chest infections,
01:18:56a kehwa can be easily made at home,
01:18:58in which a small piece,
01:19:00a half inch piece of ginger,
01:19:02crush it,
01:19:03add two cloves,
01:19:05two black pepper,
01:19:06crush it a little,
01:19:07add one and a half glass of water,
01:19:09crush means?
01:19:10Crush it.
01:19:11Feels good.
01:19:12You are coming out of your ego.
01:19:15If it is cooked in one glass of water,
01:19:17cook it a little,
01:19:18cook it in one boil,
01:19:19filter it,
01:19:20add a little honey,
01:19:21add two drops of lemon,
01:19:22and drink this kehwa,
01:19:23then it is very good for your sore throat,
01:19:25for chest infections,
01:19:26it is an excellent medicine.
01:19:28I will say two or three more things quickly.
01:19:30First thing,
01:19:31use jaggery in your diet.
01:19:33Jaggery.
01:19:34If we use jaggery,
01:19:35it increases our immunity,
01:19:37improves gut health,
01:19:38and along with that,
01:19:39overall our...
01:19:40It feels very soothing.
01:19:42If someone eats it lightly,
01:19:43you can eat it.
01:19:44Jaggery is also important.
01:19:46Nowadays, jaggery is also available in sugar cubes.
01:19:48Yes, yes.
01:19:49Sugar won't leave us behind.
01:19:50Its shine tells us,
01:19:52it shines differently.
01:19:53And plus,
01:19:54jaggery is a little subtle,
01:19:55it is not hard.
01:19:56It is a little subtle,
01:19:57it is hard,
01:19:58fungus grows fast in normal jaggery.
01:20:00And if I say a little more,
01:20:02a little darkish tone jaggery
01:20:04is comparatively less chemicalized.
01:20:06Otherwise,
01:20:07normal jaggery is less chemicalized.
01:20:08It is made in two different places,
01:20:09in Punjab and in KP.
01:20:10But the darker it is,
01:20:11it is comparatively less.
01:20:12It has a colouring agent,
01:20:14which is added to clean the colour,
01:20:15so it is less in normal jaggery.
01:20:16So you are saying,
01:20:17it is good for gut health.
01:20:18Absolutely.
01:20:19Number three,
01:20:20drink healthy milk.
01:20:21Before going to bed at night,
01:20:22it increases your immunity.
01:20:24It gives sound sleep.
01:20:25Like I said,
01:20:26the lack of sleep and stress
01:20:28can also be a big reason
01:20:31that spoils your immunity.
01:20:33There are two types,
01:20:34one is pasteurized milk
01:20:35and the other is...
01:20:36Sir, there is a long debate on this.
01:20:37Yes, yes.
01:20:38What should we do?
01:20:39Nowadays,
01:20:40magnesium is being said,
01:20:41use it a lot,
01:20:42it will improve your sleep.
01:20:44Is it safe?
01:20:45Absolutely.
01:20:46But don't consult any doctor
01:20:48without using it.
01:20:49Person to person,
01:20:50a lot of things vary.
01:20:51You used one thing,
01:20:52it helped you.
01:20:53You told me,
01:20:54I liked it a lot,
01:20:55you should also take it.
01:20:56My health condition may be different,
01:20:58how can it react on me?
01:21:00Do you get it tested?
01:21:01It can be tested.
01:21:02Doctors check a lot of things,
01:21:03they talk to you,
01:21:04after that,
01:21:05if they prescribe it to you,
01:21:06I think it is more appropriate.
01:21:07You are saved from reactions.
01:21:09Yes.
01:21:10And the melatonin,
01:21:11nowadays people...
01:21:12It can be taken,
01:21:13obviously.
01:21:14Is it related to sleep?
01:21:15It is related to sleep.
01:21:16It is related to sound sleep.
01:21:17It enhances moods,
01:21:18makes you happy.
01:21:19But,
01:21:20it is better,
01:21:21my advice is always,
01:21:22whenever you want to use
01:21:23any type of tablet,
01:21:24consult your doctor,
01:21:25consult a doctor,
01:21:26and then use it.
01:21:27Hmm.
01:21:28Okay,
01:21:29that's good.
01:21:30Thank you so much.
01:21:31You were with us,
01:21:32and I am sure,
01:21:33you have noted down
01:21:34what all you can make.
01:21:35Yes.
01:21:36Nowadays,
01:21:37to save yourself from
01:21:38seasonal diseases,
01:21:39to save from those effects,
01:21:40it is very important
01:21:41to go for a photoshoot.
01:21:42Okay.
01:21:43Now,
01:21:44while going for a photoshoot,
01:21:45I was saying,
01:21:46we don't have to go.
01:21:47But,
01:21:48that photoshoot was done
01:21:49in a very deep place.
01:21:50Hmm.
01:21:51And,
01:21:52I don't know,
01:21:53how many hundreds of meters.
01:21:54And,
01:21:55you can see,
01:21:56the photographers,
01:21:57they were photographed
01:21:58on the deck of the ship.
01:21:59And,
01:22:00these photographers,
01:22:01they trained them
01:22:02for about 6 months,
01:22:03so that the photoshoot
01:22:04doesn't go wrong.
01:22:05Okay,
01:22:06not only photographers,
01:22:07models also went.
01:22:08Models also went.
01:22:09And,
01:22:10it was 8 feet deep.
01:22:11Is it a feet or a meter?
01:22:12I don't know.
01:22:13It's a feet.
01:22:14Yes.
01:22:15They went for a photoshoot.
01:22:16And,
01:22:17before this,
01:22:18in 2021,
01:22:19under the water,
01:22:20in 21 feet depth,
01:22:21they set a modern
01:22:22photoshoot record.
01:22:23So,
01:22:24you can see,
01:22:25they have achieved
01:22:26a lot of technical skills
01:22:27in this.
01:22:28And,
01:22:29under the water,
01:22:30on the deck of the ship,
01:22:31as Ashfaq was saying,
01:22:32it was completed.
01:22:33Now,
01:22:34it has become a part
01:22:35of the Guinness Book
01:22:36of World Records.
01:22:37And,
01:22:38we should see
01:22:39on YouTube
01:22:40how they
01:22:41took the photoshoot.
01:22:42You can see
01:22:43the rest on YouTube.
01:22:44And,
01:22:45I wanted to see
01:22:46whether the model
01:22:47wore a mask
01:22:48or oxygen mask.
01:22:49What did she do?
01:22:50How did she
01:22:51hold her breath there?
01:22:52Think about it.
01:22:53She must have got
01:22:54separate training for it.
01:22:55Let's go.
01:22:56How to hold your breath.
01:22:57Amazing.
01:22:58It was amazing.
01:22:59Let's go.
01:23:00Stay blessed.
01:23:01Stay blessed.
01:23:02Stay happy.
01:23:03Are you taking permission?
01:23:04I am not taking permission.
01:23:05This will be changed
01:23:06from Bakhubar Sawera's set.
01:23:07Inshallah.
01:23:08Inshallah.