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00:00March 27th, at 11pm on Thursday.
00:04Four years have passed since Takanoboru, and the X-Year Relationship has begun!
00:09Over 80 events have been held by the creators of the movement,
00:14and we've dug deep into the details of the events.
00:17This time, we'll take a look at the product version,
00:21subculture version,
00:22and dialogue version, and play back the famous scenes.
00:26We'll start with the product version.
00:28We've talked a lot about the backstage of the invention that changed our lives.
00:34First,
00:36QR Codes!
00:39QR Codes are essential to our lives, such as payments and e-tickets.
00:46In the 2024 Paralympic Games, they will be used in traffic control systems,
00:51and are now spreading all over the world.
00:54The Japanese car parts manufacturer, Denso, was the one who created them.
01:00At the time, barcodes were used to manage parts in a car factory.
01:05However, the amount of information that could be stored was small,
01:08and they had to be used in large quantities.
01:13In addition, if the oil in the factory was even a little dirty,
01:17it was difficult to read accurately.
01:20That's how the development of QR Codes began.
01:27First, we set three goals.
01:31What should we do to make it happen?
01:36Barcodes are information about the width of the bar,
01:42so only a small amount of information can be stored.
01:44But QR Codes can store a lot of information.
01:47Another thing is that they can be read at high speed.
01:50You can read the QR Codes faster
01:52by putting a mark on the three QR Symbols.
01:55This mark is made up of a black and white ratio
01:58where the letters are composed,
02:01which is almost non-existent.
02:05This square shape has a shape,
02:07but this width can't be seen anywhere else?
02:09Yes, it's a shape that's almost not in the letters.
02:12But is it possible to go around a gothic body like this?
02:15Yes, it's possible.
02:17But it's decided that it's one-to-one, one-to-three, one-to-one.
02:21In the case of a gothic body, it's one-to-four.
02:25There are various widths,
02:28so there is almost no ratio of letters.
02:32It's amazing that there is no other shape than this simple one.
02:35Yes, it was the most difficult thing to find.
02:38How do you find it?
02:40How do you find it?
02:42I don't know if I can find it.
02:44When I was thinking about what characteristics could be distinguished from letters,
02:50I chose a complex shape,
02:53and it took me a long time to recognize the shape on the computer.
02:57The reason why computers are fast at processing is the ratio of bars.
03:01I don't know if there is a pattern that doesn't have a ratio in such letters,
03:07but I did a lot of things and couldn't think of anything.
03:10So I thought I'd actually look into it,
03:14and I took a picture of all the newspapers and magazines,
03:19and we made a software to measure the width.
03:23As a result of the investigation,
03:25the first black is 1, the next white is 1, the black is 3,
03:28the next white is 1, the next black is 1,
03:30one-to-one, one-to-three, one-to-one.
03:32It's not like there's nothing at all,
03:34but I found something extremely small.
03:36I adopted it to this code.
03:38If there wasn't a small symbol,
03:42it would take about five seconds to read.
03:45By having this, you can distinguish between letters,
03:49and by placing it in these three corners,
03:52when you read it on the camera,
03:54you can see the code here and the size of the code here,
03:57so you can read it at high speed.
03:59Is all the data in the QR code 01?
04:04Or is it divided like this in this space?
04:07No, it's not.
04:09It's a sequence of letters,
04:12and if you make a sequence of numbers in order,
04:16you just put the data in this order.
04:20The real data is about this much.
04:22The information you put in.
04:24And the other thing that's strong against dirt,
04:26is that it's not a correction function,
04:30but there's a lot of other data in there
04:33that makes it look like it is.
04:35Simply put,
04:36if you look at it from an image perspective,
04:39it's like a number press.
04:42It goes from 1 to 9,
04:44and according to a certain rule,
04:46you can see the space from 1.
04:49That's what it looks like.
04:51I see.
04:52So, if you know about three of these nine spaces,
04:55you can only put this in here, right?
04:57Yes, that's the image.
04:59That's where you put in the function
05:02that allows you to predict the dirt.
05:03So, you can get 30% of the surface area of the road
05:07to look like dirt,
05:09but at that time,
05:11the data that you put in
05:14is about 70% of the data.
05:16So, it's mostly data that you can predict.
05:18So, it's a design that's supposed to be dirty.
05:20That's right.
05:21We were able to do this
05:23because we were a car parts manufacturer.
05:25If I were in an IT company,
05:27I wouldn't have thought about such dirty things.
05:29It would have been more rational.
05:31That's right.
05:32On the other hand,
05:34it would have been harder to read.
05:36I see.
05:37It's not often said that
05:39a car parts manufacturer
05:41was able to make something like this,
05:43but I think that's where the necessity
05:45of being able to make it is.
05:47This is how the world's first product,
05:49the QR code, was born,
05:51but it was decided
05:53to make it a public domain
05:55without taking the amount of use.
05:57If we made it a public domain,
05:59if we did it better,
06:00wouldn't there be a moment
06:03when you think,
06:05did we make a huge profit?
06:07I'm an engineer,
06:09so basically,
06:11I'd be happier if it was used
06:13all over the world,
06:15so in that sense,
06:17I think the public domain was the right choice.
06:19If we didn't make it a public domain,
06:21personally,
06:23I think it would have ended
06:25with the Toyota Code
06:27that was used in the Toyota Group.
06:28I think about once a year.
06:31I sometimes think
06:33that it might have sold more,
06:35but as Hara said earlier,
06:37by spreading the QR code,
06:39I think we'll have
06:41a business chance.
06:43If the QR code spreads
06:45in various places,
06:47there will be various
06:49use cases that take advantage of it,
06:51and we can provide hardware,
06:53systems, and solutions
06:55that fit those use cases.
06:56That's what I'm focusing on right now.
06:59This is how the world's first
07:02product, the QR code,
07:04was born.
07:06The next product to be played back
07:09is the era of high-density growth machines,
07:12mass production that sells
07:14when it's made.
07:16Along Alpha,
07:18an industrial product,
07:20was released as an adhesive
07:22that greatly improves
07:24the efficiency of work.
07:25Eight years later,
07:27the first home-made
07:29instant adhesive was released
07:31in Japan.
07:33However,
07:35because the industrial
07:37Along Alpha is too high-spec,
07:39there are many difficulties
07:41in improving it
07:43to make it easier to use.
07:45Among them,
07:47the most difficult part
07:49was the new development of the container.
07:51It is a machine that
07:53holds the adhesive
07:54in a container
07:56that does not melt.
07:58The development that seems
08:00to be contradictory
08:02was the absolute condition
08:04of productization.
08:06There is a saying that
08:08there is no container
08:10to store anything
08:12that melts.
08:14I think it's a phenomenon
08:16that's close to that.
08:18If anything sticks together,
08:20what should I do?
08:22The factory in Toyama
08:23Why was it Toyama?
08:26In Toyama Prefecture,
08:29there has been a long history
08:31of the production of medicine.
08:33Toyama has a long history
08:35of selling medicine.
08:37There are many pharmaceutical companies.
08:39There are many companies
08:41that make medicine containers.
08:43For example,
08:45there are many companies
08:47that make eye drops containers.
08:49I collaborated with
08:51such companies
08:52to develop a container
08:54that can be stored for a long time
08:57while blocking
08:59the moisture
09:01that is the key
09:03to general development.
09:05I developed the container
09:07together with the manufacturer
09:09of the container.
09:11I see.
09:13I feel that it is perfectly sealed
09:15until the lid is opened,
09:17but once it is opened,
09:19more and more moisture
09:21is released.
09:23In order to make a container
09:25that doesn't stick together
09:27and doesn't solidify,
09:29it is necessary to design
09:31a container that doesn't
09:33touch the moisture.
09:35That's where the double structure
09:37was devised,
09:39which is now
09:41known as Alon Alpha.
09:43Even if a small amount
09:45of moisture enters,
09:47the contents will solidify,
09:48and there is a drying agent
09:51inside the outer cover.
09:53Is that so?
09:55Oh, there is a drying agent
09:57inside.
09:59I didn't know that.
10:01Has it always been like this?
10:03Yes, it has.
10:05When the product was sold,
10:07there was only a drying agent
10:09inside,
10:11but there was a problem
10:13that children
10:15would drink it
10:16when they were young,
10:19so it was designed
10:21to incorporate it
10:23from the middle stage.
10:25In order to shut out
10:27a small amount of moisture
10:29in the double structure
10:31that blocks moisture,
10:33a drying agent was added.
10:35In addition,
10:37it is necessary to deliver it
10:39to the consumer
10:41in a completely sealed state
10:43so that it does not touch
10:44the surface of the product.
10:47The solution was
10:49a liquid that sticks
10:51to anything,
10:53and a container that
10:55never sticks to anything.
10:57The researchers
10:59began to improve
11:01the product.
11:03And a rocket-shaped
11:05container was born.
11:07Why did it
11:09take this shape?
11:11The thinner the tip,
11:12the easier it is to apply.
11:15In order to make it
11:17easier to apply,
11:19we made it rocket-shaped.
11:21By making it thinner
11:23and easier to grip,
11:25it became more
11:27like a rocket.
11:29I see.
11:31I see this shape a lot now,
11:33but at that time,
11:35was it not a form
11:37of instant adhesive?
11:39Was it the original?
11:40Yes, it was the original.
11:43A double-layered,
11:45completely sealed rocket-shaped
11:47product was improved
11:49and finally completed
11:51with its own container.
11:53And in 1971,
11:56the home-made
11:58Alon Alpha was released.
12:00Thus,
12:01Alon Alpha,
12:03which has been more than
12:05half a century since its release,
12:07was born.
12:09In addition,
12:11the world-renowned Sony
12:13developed BIO,
12:15and the development
12:17of the national sweets
12:19Kinoko no Yama and
12:21Takenoko no Sato.
12:23Isn't Takenoko no Sato
12:25better?
12:27And next,
12:29the subculture.
12:31We have invited
12:33many legends
12:35who have supported
12:36Takenoko no Sato.
12:38First,
12:40the so-called Gatchaman.
12:42The science ninja team,
12:44Gatchaman,
12:46and the Yatterman,
12:48the Tatsunoko Pro,
12:50who created the Time Bokan series.
12:52We invite these legends
12:54to the backstage.
12:56Even if I don't get paid,
12:58I'd like to do something like that.
13:00It's a great phrase
13:02to explain.
13:04Well, of course.
13:05Do you know
13:07that there are
13:09a lot of harmful substances
13:11in the air of your room?
13:13For example,
13:15dust such as bed make
13:17and dandruff
13:19will scatter like this.
13:21Even if there are
13:23more than 100,000 dandruff
13:25in a piece of futon,
13:27these substances
13:29will eventually
13:31fall to the floor over time,
13:33but when you walk,
13:34you'll be in danger.
13:36Dandruff
13:38is found
13:40about 1 to 1.5 meters
13:42above the floor.
13:44The height of a small child's mouth
13:46is about 30 to 50 centimeters
13:48above the floor.
13:50There are a lot of
13:52dandruff on the floor,
13:54so you should be careful
13:56about the air environment.
13:58Therefore,
13:59air dogs
14:01breathe in from below
14:02and breathe in
14:04before they fall to the floor.
14:06You can clean
14:08the air in your room
14:10more efficiently.
14:13As a result of the test,
14:15you can remove
14:17more than 99%
14:19of dandruff,
14:21mold, pollen,
14:23and pet allergens.
14:25In addition,
14:27even viruses
14:29that are smaller than
14:30humans can be removed.
14:32You can remove
14:3499.9% of dandruff.
14:36That's why
14:38more than 12,000 medical facilities
14:40around the country
14:41have introduced air dogs.
14:44The world's strongest
14:46air purifier,
14:47AirDog,
14:49can be purchased
14:50from the free dial
14:52or the official website.
14:54First,
14:55search for AirDog.
15:01Next, the subculture.
15:03In this program,
15:04we have interviewed
15:06many legends
15:07who have supported
15:09Japanese subculture.
15:10First,
15:12a group of amateurs
15:13who had never made anime
15:15set up a production company
15:17and sent out
15:18the first work
15:20to the world.
15:21The name of the company
15:23is Tatsunoko Pro.
15:24Once upon a time,
15:26there was a man
15:27who had a dream
15:28to become a hero.
15:30Once upon a time,
15:31there were five.
15:33Once upon a time,
15:34there was one.
15:36He was a white shadow
15:37who didn't show himself.
15:39He was a shadow of justice.
15:41He was a scientist ninja.
15:42What?
15:44His name was Gatchaman.
15:45Gatchaman,
15:47a scientist ninja
15:48who started broadcasting
15:50in 1972.
15:51I won't tell you!
15:53Idiot!
15:54I'll beat you up!
15:56That's right!
15:57I'll beat you up!
15:59Gatchaman was the beginning
16:00of the Time Bokan series.
16:04Then,
16:05there was Action Demon King.
16:07It was followed by
16:08Insect Story Minashigo Hatch,
16:10SF,
16:11gag,
16:13touching,
16:14and many other hits.
16:16In the program,
16:17we interviewed
16:19the legends
16:20who created
16:22the most brilliant works
16:23in Japanese anime history.
16:25The first one
16:26was Hiroshi Sasagawa,
16:27who started Tatsunoko Pro.
16:29He was the general director
16:30of the Time Bokan series.
16:32He led the gag route
16:33and created many phrases.
16:36The second one
16:37was Kunio Okawara,
16:39who designed Gatchaman
16:40and Yatterman's mecha designs
16:42and Gundam's mobile suits.
16:46The third one
16:47was Yoshitaka Amano,
16:49who joined Tatsunoko Pro
16:50at the age of 15
16:52and created many characters
16:53and even started
16:54the Tatsunoko series.
16:57Mr. Amano,
16:59you joined Tatsunoko Pro
17:00at the age of 15?
17:02Yes.
17:03At the age of 15?
17:05Yes.
17:06I was in Shizuoka.
17:08I was in Tokyo.
17:09I went to Tokyo to visit
17:11Tatsunoko Pro.
17:12I found Tatsunoko Pro
17:14nearby.
17:15I wanted to draw something
17:17because I like drawing.
17:18So I took Tatsunoko Pro
17:20with me.
17:21But Tatsunoko Pro
17:23was adopted.
17:24Right.
17:26I wasn't interested
17:27in anime or manga at all.
17:30I read about it
17:31in many books,
17:33but you weren't interested
17:34at all?
17:36I wasn't interested at all.
17:37That's ridiculous.
17:39You really weren't interested?
17:40I applied for a job
17:42at a newspaper.
17:43I wasn't interested.
17:45I got a job
17:46after I got married,
17:48so I couldn't quit.
17:49Is that so?
17:51Yes.
17:52You weren't interested at all.
17:53You weren't interested at all.
17:55I wasn't interested at all.
17:56The person I was going to marry
17:58was from the same country,
17:59so we were pretty close.
18:01I thought it was convenient.
18:03You were chosen by the distance.
18:04Yes.
18:06Tatsunoko Pro
18:07produced a number of
18:09gag films.
18:10Mr. Satagawa
18:12directed most of them.
18:13This is a time-travelling series
18:15broadcasted by
18:16Satagawa World's
18:18Shin-Koccho
18:19from 1975 to
18:212008.
18:22The second film,
18:24Yatterman,
18:25was very popular.
18:27It's a story about
18:28Yatterman using a mech
18:30to stop a group of
18:32three people
18:34who are trying to
18:35steal a skull stone.
18:37Yatterman
18:39gave birth to
18:40a number of
18:42gag phrases.
18:44For example,
18:45You're so good!
18:47You're a man!
18:48You're a good man!
18:50You have a nice beard!
18:51You're shining!
18:52You have a nice nose!
18:54Don't move!
18:55I told you not to move!
18:59You're so good!
19:00You're a good man!
19:02Damn it!
19:04Yatterman!
19:06Don't let him get away!
19:07It's a mech!
19:09Let me explain.
19:10A mech.
19:12This is Yatterman's
19:13energy source.
19:15After eating this,
19:16Yatterman creates
19:18a powerful robot.
19:20This phrase,
19:21let me explain,
19:23is amazing.
19:24In manga,
19:26it's natural to
19:27explain the situation
19:29when a square comes out.
19:31But as a producer,
19:32I don't have to say
19:34let me explain.
19:36It's a great invention.
19:38Now, of course,
19:40no one will think anything.
19:42Who is explaining?
19:43Why is the narration there?
19:45It's amazing
19:47to come up with it suddenly.
19:48That's amazing.
19:50Butamodateria kininoboro
19:51is a phrase
19:53you can easily understand.
19:55How did you come up with it?
19:56Butamodateria kininoboro
19:58is from Fukushima prefecture.
20:00I was born there.
20:02I heard it there.
20:03You heard it there?
20:05Yes.
20:06I don't know where it came from,
20:08but a farmer told me about it.
20:10I remember it.
20:12So I included it
20:13in the program.
20:15I lived in a country
20:16with a lot of sense.
20:18It's amazing
20:20to come up with this phrase.
20:22On the other hand,
20:23Mr. Amano,
20:25who was in charge of
20:26all character designs
20:28for Time Bokan,
20:29had his own concerns.
20:31At first,
20:32Time Bokan was
20:34a sci-fi game.
20:35That was the beginning.
20:37Yatterman
20:38was the next one.
20:40Yes.
20:41What was it like
20:43at the beginning?
20:44Were you more serious?
20:45Yes, I was.
20:47It was called
20:48Mahjong.
20:50I see.
20:51Every year,
20:53the characters
20:54would change.
20:56From Yatterman
20:57to Yattretaman.
20:59There was also Ippatsuman.
21:01But the three characters
21:02didn't change.
21:04The basic positions
21:05were the same.
21:07But the costumes
21:08didn't change.
21:10You had a hard time.
21:11Yes.
21:12You had to change
21:14almost all of them.
21:15Yes.
21:17I didn't know anything
21:18about anime character design.
21:20I didn't know
21:22that you had a career.
21:23But I heard
21:25you were into
21:26Japanese animation.
21:28Yes.
21:29I didn't know
21:31you were into
21:32comedy.
21:34Yes.
21:35I was asked to do
21:37a lot of things.
21:38That's how
21:40I made the characters.
21:41You made the characters.
21:42That's how you made the characters.
21:44Yes.
21:45I think it was the same
21:47for the mechs.
21:48You had a hard time.
21:50You had to make
21:51new mechs.
21:53The gag mechs
21:54are essential
21:56for the three evils.
21:57Surprise mechs
21:59are here!
22:00This week,
22:02various mechs
22:03made the series
22:05more exciting.
22:06Surprise mechs
22:08Surprise mechs
22:10Surprise mechs
22:11Surprise mechs
22:13Surprise mechs
22:14Surprise mechs
22:16Surprise mechs
22:17Ookawara designed
22:19this gag mech too.
22:21He is different
22:22from Gundam
22:24as in his work style.
22:26In the beginning,
22:27when I was working
22:29on Time Bokan,
22:31for mechs,
22:32the most important part
22:34was the gag mech
22:36in the bottom.
22:37I've never done a gag before, so I decided to take on the challenge.
22:43Fortunately, I was able to do 105 of them,
22:47so I learned what kind of taste I should have for a gag.
22:52So, Gatchaman, SF mecha and gag,
22:57if you experience both, you'll be able to do both.
23:02So, Gatchaman, SF mecha and gag,
23:05if you experience both, you'll be able to do both.
23:10You can do both?
23:12Yes.
23:13Which is more difficult?
23:16I prefer the gag.
23:20Oh, really?
23:21Yes.
23:22It's a great challenge,
23:24so even if I fail, I won't complain.
23:28So, even if I don't get paid, I'd like to do that kind of work.
23:33When I read another book,
23:36you said that when you design a mecha,
23:39you imagine it moving,
23:41or that it should move properly.
23:43I heard you were conscious of that, especially in BOTOBOOZU and DAGRAM.
23:46In the end, I like to make things more than drawing.
23:50Most of the time, toys become sponsors,
23:54so I make mock-ups here,
23:57but it's faster to present a product like that.
24:02I don't really like drawing,
24:04so I really want to compete with that.
24:08So, it's faster to make something than to explain it?
24:10Yes, it's faster.
24:11And I don't have to draw a lot of pictures.
24:13Do you have to worry about the movement of a gag?
24:17In the end, I don't lie about making it three-dimensional.
24:20Oh, I see.
24:22I can't forgive myself for drawing a vague picture.
24:27Even if it's a gag,
24:29even if it's a mock-up,
24:31you can make it look convincing.
24:33You can transform a mecha.
24:36It's a great talent.
24:38Do you have a three-dimensional image in your head?
24:41Do you have a three-dimensional image in your head?
24:43I think ordinary people have a three-dimensional image in their heads.
24:46No, no, I don't.
24:48I think it's just putting it out there.
24:51After going through such a backstory,
24:53Yatterman recorded the highest viewing rate of 28.4% in the first animation.
24:59It became a national anime.
25:03The next sub-culture to be played back is...
25:08Macross, a popular sci-fi robot anime series that has been going on for more than 40 years.
25:14It's a story about the power of the heroine's song
25:18that transcends race to bring peace to the universe.
25:22It's a story about the power of the heroine's song
25:26that transcends race to bring peace to the universe.
25:32Including the 7 series titles, OVA, and the movie version,
25:36a total of 18 works have been released.
25:40Idol voice actors and realistic action figures
25:43have been incorporated into the current Akiba culture.
25:49This time, we will play back the backstage of Itano,
25:53who was in charge of the battle scene in Macross.
25:59I think Itano's directing was quite innovative
26:02to the point where the word Itano Circus was born.
26:06Itano's great name, Itano Circus.
26:09Here is a scene where you can see how amazing it is.
26:13Itano Circus
26:35What is the difference between Itano Circus and other anime?
26:40The performance of the missiles are different.
26:43I've seen this in many anime.
26:46How do you draw the missiles?
26:49I drew serious missiles, stupid missiles, and genius missiles.
26:54I drew serious missiles, stupid missiles, and genius missiles.
26:57I drew three different types of missiles.
27:00The serious ones are chased by radar.
27:04They are too serious to be hit.
27:07The genius missiles are ahead of the aircraft in the forecast,
27:12and hit the target and explode.
27:15The pilots' performance and the aircraft's performance
27:20are programmed and understood by the AI.
27:23The other is a stupid missile.
27:26The pilot doesn't have to hit the target.
27:29The other one is a stupid missile.
27:33I don't have to hit it.
27:35If I get close to it, it will spread and explode.
27:38I just have to damage it a little bit.
27:42Before that, I'll shoot the camera once.
27:44There's a guy doing this in the back.
27:46The air force in front of you is a stupid missile?
27:48Yes.
27:49Originally, missiles should have a lot of good performance,
27:54so it should be an AI missile.
27:57By adding features,
27:59the trajectory can be changed.
28:02There are three patterns of trajectory.
28:04It's not just flying straight,
28:06like a news source,
28:08and saying,
28:10a jet plane flew, a missile hit.
28:12It's more exciting.
28:15And there are many trajectories in the air.
28:17The smoke is flowing.
28:19The smoke feels good.
28:21That's why it's called a natto missile.
28:24It's like a string of natto.
28:26It's like pulling a string of smoke.
28:28The flow of the smoke feels good.
28:30And it's cool to avoid it.
28:33What's amazing is that
28:35even though there are a lot of smoke
28:37while flying three types of missiles,
28:39the aircraft is placed in a visible position
28:41so that it can be seen.
28:43It's a good way to avoid the camera.
28:46There's a chaser.
28:48How do you imagine it in your head?
28:51The one in the back is a three-frame shot.
28:53The one in the middle is a two-frame shot.
28:55They're all in different frames.
28:58The atmosphere and time are also deformed.
29:03The front is very fast.
29:05When I was working on Macross,
29:08I said I'd train the children's visual acuity.
29:13When I was working on Gundam,
29:15everyone kept telling me it was too fast.
29:18They were all in the middle.
29:21And Macross was the one who got drunk.
29:23Based on this theory,
29:26let's take a look at the scene from earlier.
29:29The accurate shooting of the missile.
29:35Ghost Gun.
29:37There's one in front of me.
29:41Magnet Nozzle.
29:43Wow.
29:49It moves so fast.
29:52The number of frames is incredible.
29:55In those five seconds, there were more than 110 frames.
29:58How many frames are there in five seconds?
30:01Eight frames per second.
30:03So it's about three times as fast.
30:05Yes.
30:06This is probably my limit.
30:10I thought it would become 3D after this.
30:14I seriously challenged myself to my limit.
30:19When I worked on Macross+,
30:21I often talked to Mr. Itano about it being the last friendly anime.
30:24It wasn't the last friendly fighter,
30:26but the last friendly anime.
30:29Macross+, which became the cornerstone of the Itano Circus,
30:33was highly acclaimed overseas and became one of the masterpieces.
30:39In addition, the air gun, which caused a huge boom in collections and survival games,
30:47Wow!
30:49That's amazing!
30:51and the Fuji Rock Festival, which is the pinnacle of Japanese rock festivals,
30:56were the backstages of the legendary first event.
31:02Next, we'll talk about the backstages of the Dragon Quest,
31:05which was a huge success in Japan.
31:10He thought of the wind system.
31:12Yes.
31:13That was revolutionary.
31:14The Dragon Quest.
31:16If you think it's hard to hear,
31:18or if your voice is too small,
31:20or if you try to listen desperately,
31:22you'll get exhausted.
31:25When I watch TV,
31:27I want to turn up the volume.
31:30But sometimes I can't hear it.
31:33He solved everyone's problems.
31:37The No. 1 selling price in the five-year market.
31:42The loud and clear charging sound system,
31:46RAKUCHIN HEARING.
31:49When I put on RAKUCHIN HEARING,
31:51I can hear it clearly and loudly.
31:54I can get into the conversation.
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32:11It's comfortable and safe.
32:13And it doesn't need to be charged.
32:17It's easy to adjust the volume to your liking.
32:23That's why it's sold out in two minutes.
32:27Actress Hideki Takahashi praised it.
32:31I enjoy watching my grandchild's growth.
32:35It's a very strong ally for me.
32:39I'm very happy to hear my grandchild's voice.
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33:15Spice, March 27.
33:18Starting at 11 p.m.
33:21Next is the conversation.
33:24We dug up the unknown backstage of the legends of each industry.
33:30First is...
33:32Dragon Quest III and Legends.
33:36Dragon Quest is banned from role-playing games.
33:43The third game was a social phenomenon.
33:50This time, the creator of Dragon Quest, game designer Yuji Horii.
33:56At the age of 20, he was the main programmer and director of Dragon Quest.
34:05The two core members of the production team.
34:08The story of how the world-famous RPG was born.
34:16The other members of the production team are Akira Toriyama.
34:23The Japanese composer Koichi Sugiyama participated.
34:29Dragon Quest was made with these four people in mind.
34:33It was a new genre of RPG for Japan, where action games were the mainstream.
34:41He came up with the wind system.
34:44It was revolutionary.
34:45It's like Dragon Quest.
34:48In previous games, you had to select a command.
34:52In Dragon Quest, you had to select a system that allowed you to do even more.
34:59How did Mr. Nakamura come up with this revolutionary system?
35:06Oh, I remember. Stairs and doors.
35:09That's right.
35:11The characters can't turn right or left.
35:14You had to search for them.
35:16You had to talk to them.
35:18On the Famicom, you only had the up, down, left, right, and A, B buttons.
35:23You had to use magic and tools to do complicated things.
35:28The map was always displayed.
35:31You had to make sure that your position was not lost in your consciousness.
35:38At the time, the Windows system was just starting to become popular in the world of high-end computers.
35:44I thought, maybe I can do something about this.
35:49When you get used to the Windows system, you learn how to operate it.
35:58You input complicated commands,
36:02but at the same time, you can chant a spell or use tools.
36:08I think that was the starting point for the success of Dragon Quest.
36:15The two of them were working hard to show the fun of RPGs,
36:21but a huge obstacle stood in their way.
36:26There wasn't a lot of capacity on the Famicom.
36:30Compared to action games, there was a lot of text information.
36:35The scenes on the screen were completely different.
36:39There was a lot of data.
36:41You must have done a lot of research.
36:43It wasn't just research.
36:45You had to use all kinds of technology to generate memory.
36:50When you were making Dragon Quest, it was a battle against memory.
36:56The Famicom didn't have the capacity to store all kinds of ideas.
37:03The capacity of the Famicom was 64 kilobytes.
37:08Was that the amount of data you could send in one second on the ISDN?
37:12If you take a picture on your smartphone,
37:16it's about 2 megabytes.
37:20It's about 1 in 32.
37:24If you take a picture, there are 32 Dragon Quest games in it.
37:28With the technology at the time, you could get up to 32 Dragon Quest games.
37:32With limited capacity, they made a magnificent story.
37:36For that purpose, the two worked on innovative methods one after another.
37:41When I made Portopia with Mr. Horii,
37:44I had a lot of know-how in compressing text.
37:47How many characters did you use for the katakana?
37:50About 20 characters.
37:52There are only about 20 characters in katakana.
37:54For example, you can share letters with hiragana.
37:58There are a lot of things that don't exist in katakana.
38:01I looked it up myself.
38:03In Track A1 and Track A2,
38:05you can't find the word monster in the story.
38:08When I found it, I was like,
38:10Oh, the word monster came out later.
38:13At first, it was all monsters.
38:16At first, it was because there were a lot of monsters.
38:19The monster was in 3 letters, but the monster was in 5 letters.
38:23You really did a lot of things like that.
38:27I cut and cut.
38:29There are only 10 magic weapons in Track A1.
38:32Girabe, Girama, Hoimi, Remira.
38:35Wow, that's nostalgic.
38:37Remira. It's a torch.
38:40Was the torch system not very popular?
38:46When I thought about it later, I didn't need it that much.
38:50When I tried it, it was getting dark.
38:54It's inconvenient.
38:55It's a waste of time.
38:57I thought it was good for Track A1.
39:00I wanted to have that experience for the first time.
39:08When you first put in the spell, which one did you put in first?
39:13The first one was Hoimi.
39:15The healing spell.
39:16The name and the unique five senses are the spark of Mori.
39:20This is Mori's technique.
39:22I always think it's amazing.
39:24Dragon Quest has been fighting against such capacity,
39:28but in the boom of Dragon Quest III,
39:30they saved up the capacity in a bold way.
39:35There's no title logo in it.
39:37Oh, I see.
39:39There's only a small font called Dragon Quest III.
39:431, 2, 2, it's so beautiful.
39:45Yes, yes, yes.
39:46Did you cut this without crying?
39:48I cut it without crying.
39:49It doesn't fit in.
39:50It doesn't fit in.
39:51There's a lot of capacity.
39:53When the title logo was gone,
39:55a lot of memory came out.
39:58I happened to talk to the staff at the time,
40:02and what he remembered was that
40:04not only the title logo,
40:06but also the whole town was cut.
40:09There was a murder in that town,
40:12and there was a town that solved it while talking about it,
40:17but that whole town was gone.
40:19Was there a mystery element?
40:21Yes, there was.
40:23And I remember Sugiyama-sensei
40:25cutting songs without crying.
40:27Oh, I remember that.
40:28He cut a whole song.
40:31Fighting against such various hardships,
40:33the 11th numbered title,
40:35along with the spin-off,
40:37released more than 100 works.
40:40It became a big hit series that is loved and enjoyed all over the world.
40:52If you're curious about the refreshing feeling,
40:54the momentum,
40:55and the refreshing feeling,
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41:00You think,
41:01is it just me?
41:03A long-distance bus trip,
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41:29I don't think it's because of my age.
41:31I'm using it as much as I can.
41:33I can shop normally,
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42:51Naoki Urasawa
42:53He won numerous manga awards.
42:56He is a 20th century boy
42:57who was made into a film
42:58with his first trilogy.
43:02Mysterious manga,
43:03Master Keaton,
43:04which was talked about
43:05even in the setting of the main character,
43:08and many other hits
43:09were sent to the world
43:10and the number of copies sold
43:12was over 140 million.
43:14He is a manga artist
43:15who represents Japan.
43:20This time,
43:21we will look back
43:22at Urasawa's work.
43:25Yawara,
43:26a Judo manga
43:27with a female Judo boom.
43:31Yawara,
43:32a genius Judo girl,
43:33wanted to be a normal girl
43:35and hated Judo.
43:37However,
43:38the story of Yawara's ability
43:40is still a mystery.
43:41The story of Yawara's ability
43:42began 6 years ago
43:43when Judo became
43:44an official topic
43:45at the Olympics.
43:50What on earth
43:51was the secret to the birth of Yawara?
43:54When we debuted,
43:55we had several meetings
43:56with the editors in charge.
43:59At that time,
44:00we were trying to talk
44:01about something like monsters.
44:02The editor in charge
44:03was a sports fan,
44:05I was a fan of Nijihamu's baseball team, and we were talking about Nijihamu's game, and I was out of breath.
44:13So I said, let's talk about the hospital story.
44:19And he suddenly made a boring face.
44:23That's the worst way to run a company.
44:26It went on for a couple of times, and I thought he wasn't enjoying what I was about to say.
44:32So I thought, why did I say that?
44:37So I said, why don't we write a Judo manga?
44:42At that time, Judo was the least popular sport.
44:46There was no one doing it in the club.
44:50So I said, why don't we write a Judo manga?
44:54And he looked at me with sparkling eyes.
44:57And in 5 or 10 minutes, the protagonist, Yawara,
45:04wrote in alphabetical order,
45:08and the story was like a parody of the Titan Star.
45:13So I spent 5 or 10 minutes drawing here,
45:16and I wrote Yawara here, and here, and here.
45:20I wrote half of it while making fun of him.
45:23Then he asked me, why don't we write this?
45:27And I said, I don't want to.
45:31I said no, but in my head,
45:34I thought, don't make a big hit.
45:38If there was a needle, it would touch the red zone.
45:43But it's a genre that shouldn't have that kind of opinion.
45:50So even if you know it's going to be popular,
45:54you don't want to do it?
45:57I've never done a manga that's going to be popular.
46:01I want to make a manga that people don't like.
46:05That's my way of doing it.
46:08So you want to make a manga that people don't like,
46:11but people will understand.
46:14Or is it a manga that only you know?
46:16I want to make a manga that only 2 or 3 people in my class
46:20will be interested in.
46:23I see.
46:26If that's the case, it's too popular.
46:29It's not good at all.
46:32I want to draw a manga that no one has seen before.
46:36So if I'm asked to draw a sports manga,
46:39I always say no.
46:41Everyone is successful in various genres.
46:44But if I draw a sports manga,
46:49I think it's not a sports manga at all.
46:53That's my approach.
46:56By doing that, I might be able to attract readers
47:00to what I'm trying to do.
47:04You can spread the manga,
47:07but you can also do what you want.
47:09That's what I thought.
47:12I was going to draw a manga about a Roman holiday
47:15and his wife being a witch.
47:18I was going to draw a manga about that.
47:21So you're not a target.
47:24You're interested in sports,
47:27but you want to tell people what you want to do.
47:30Yes, that's right.
47:33But you're sure that people will like it.
47:36People will misunderstand.
47:39They might read it without realizing it.
47:42I see.
47:45But I knew that people would misunderstand
47:48and read it.
47:51That's how I spread the manga.
47:54If I get readers,
47:57I'll get more readers to read my manga.
48:00I've never done that before.
48:03Don't be misunderstood.
48:06That's right.
48:09The more popular the manga is,
48:12the more people will be attracted to it.
48:15That's right.
48:18I get a lot of fan letters saying
48:21that they were moved by my manga.
48:24They don't get it.
48:27When it comes to animation,
48:30the number of readers increases.
48:33I get letters from girls in their 4th grade.
48:36They don't expect it at all.
48:39They don't expect it.
48:42Some people might be interested in judo.
48:45There are a lot of people.
48:48They don't expect it at all.
48:51I changed the name of the Judo club.
48:54At that time, it was not an official event.
48:57It was an exhibition match at the next Seoul Olympics.
49:00The official event was Barcelona.
49:03I was joking about writing a manga until then.
49:06I was joking about writing a manga until then.
49:09I was joking about writing a manga until then.
49:12I was joking about writing a manga until then.
49:15You said it on purpose.
49:18They don't get it.
49:21Three years after the serialization,
49:24Yawara was made into an anime
49:27and had a high viewing rate of 20%.
49:30It caused a female judo boom in the world.
49:33It caused a female judo boom in the world.
49:35The winner of the VFX award,
49:38the Academy Award,
49:41Director Takashi Yamazaki,
49:44and the editor-in-chief Kazuhiko Torishima,
49:47who supported the golden machine of Weekly Shonen Jump,
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