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00:00Today's guest is Osami Nabe.
00:03Nice to meet you. I'm Osami.
00:06I didn't know you were so young.
00:08People would be surprised if I said my age.
00:11I'm 85 years old.
00:13If I say I'm 85 years old, people would be surprised.
00:17I don't have a single tooth.
00:21I still have three teeth from head to tail.
00:24You have strong teeth.
00:25Yes.
00:26I also have strong teeth.
00:29I just ate a bento with salmon.
00:31I still have my bones here.
00:33You still have them?
00:34Yes.
00:35It's a celebrity's habit.
00:37He eats fast.
00:38That's right.
00:40When I drive,
00:42I make sure to chew more than 100 times
00:44so that I don't swallow.
00:46That's amazing.
00:48When I eat Chinese food,
00:50I eat a bun like this.
00:52I eat it with a lot of sesame seeds.
00:54Sesame seeds.
00:55Fried sesame seeds.
00:57I eat it in three bites.
00:59If I don't chew it 200 times,
01:03I can't chew all the sesame seeds.
01:05You can't chew all the sesame seeds?
01:07If I don't chew it,
01:09the sesame seeds will come out.
01:11I can't eat it.
01:13It's not ground sesame seeds.
01:15I use my jaw.
01:16If I use my jaw, I can't swallow.
01:19You were busy when you were young,
01:21so you couldn't eat it for a long time.
01:23That's right.
01:24Did you start to chew slowly from a certain point?
01:28Yes, I did.
01:30In other words, I experienced a life
01:32where I couldn't work at all from a certain point.
01:36You were very busy until then, weren't you?
01:38Yes.
01:39I didn't have time to sleep because I was embarrassed.
01:43I finished shooting at Nikkatsu around 11 o'clock.
01:47At night?
01:48The next day,
01:50I left for Shochiku, Uzumasa at 7.30.
01:53In Kyoto?
01:54Yes, in Kyoto.
01:55I had to go back by car.
01:57How did you do that?
01:59You didn't have a bullet train,
02:01so you had to go by car.
02:03I told my manager,
02:05I should sleep while moving by car.
02:07He said,
02:08That's right.
02:10At night,
02:11he said,
02:12I'm going to drive.
02:14It's still early.
02:16I couldn't sleep when I couldn't sleep even on the moon.
02:19How did you sleep?
02:21I had it.
02:23That's why you took a long break.
02:26I didn't take a break.
02:27God told me to take a break.
02:29Because I worked so hard.
02:32From the night you arrived in Yumizuhara,
02:35you went to Katsushintaro's house.
02:40What do you do on the moon?
02:43He told me.
02:45He lived his life as the moon man of many legendary actors.
02:50And then?
02:52At the time of the incident,
02:54Mr. Takeshi was the only one who came to me.
02:58A letter from Mr. Beat Takeshi
03:00to Mr. Nabe Osami
03:02during a break.
03:05The last words
03:07his wife Remiko left him.
03:11You are Nabe Osami.
03:14Nabe Osami is Nabe Osami.
03:18Don't lose.
03:19Don't lose yourself.
03:25Tsurube and Sawako.
03:28Showa's great seniors.
03:33Shin Watanabe.
03:34Hiroshi Mizuhara.
03:35Hajime Ano.
03:36Kei Tani.
03:37I will devote myself to this person.
03:40Let's live that kind of life.
03:42Let's live that kind of life.
03:47Mr. Nabe Osami
03:49lived his life as the moon man of many legendary actors
03:52during a break at Shabondama Holiday.
03:56The beginning of his life
03:58was a movie that captivated Mr. Nabe in his childhood.
04:03I watch movies every day.
04:08At first, I saved money.
04:11I saved 30 yen every day.
04:14I was worried that my mother's wallet would decrease.
04:18I asked her if she was doing anything.
04:21She said yes.
04:22She said yes.
04:23I said yes.
04:24But I couldn't say sorry honestly.
04:27Then,
04:28she said,
04:29why do you watch movies all the time?
04:31I said,
04:32Mom,
04:33I promised you.
04:35I won't fight.
04:36Until then,
04:37until the fourth grade of elementary school,
04:39I lived in a rural area in Ibaraki Prefecture.
04:43With my local children,
04:46I lived in a place where there were about 300 people living in Tokyo.
04:51There was a big difference in living conditions.
04:54We didn't know how to cook.
04:56It was a village where we had to learn from the mayor.
05:01After all,
05:02there was a big difference in living conditions.
05:05For that reason,
05:06I had to fight.
05:08If I didn't fight,
05:09I couldn't get what I wanted to eat.
05:12For that reason,
05:13before I went to elementary school,
05:15I had to fight to win.
05:19After I went to elementary school,
05:22I fought every day.
05:24I started fighting when I entered the school.
05:27I thought I'd beat the strongest guy.
05:30I was a kid.
05:32I was in the front.
05:33I said,
05:34Be careful!
05:35Everyone said,
05:36Be careful!
05:37Everyone did this.
05:38But I did this.
05:40Me too.
05:41Yes.
05:42There was a big boy in the back of the line.
05:47If I beat him,
05:48everyone would be surprised.
05:50I was getting closer.
05:52I looked up.
05:53Suddenly,
05:54I did this.
05:55This boy cried.
05:58I was in the front.
06:00Everyone looked at me.
06:02They thought I was crazy.
06:06That's crazy.
06:08But I was a kid.
06:11I looked up.
06:14Every time,
06:16I had to fight.
06:20For about six months,
06:22I fought a lot.
06:24Did you have the willpower?
06:26I didn't have the willpower.
06:28I couldn't beat a big boy.
06:30But if you fight,
06:31it hurts.
06:32If you get beaten up.
06:34I didn't have the willpower.
06:36I got a gun.
06:38I got a star.
06:40I got a gun.
06:42You were a brave boy.
06:44Did your school life change after you fought?
06:48Yes, it did.
06:50My teacher was from the countryside.
06:54It's time for lunch.
06:57Yamato,
07:00open the lunch box.
07:02We came from Yamato.
07:05We were told to open the lunch box.
07:08There was a big sweet potato.
07:11It was in the lunch box.
07:14Everyone looked at it.
07:17It was a sweet potato.
07:19My teacher said that.
07:21Everyone laughed.
07:24On that day,
07:27I gathered everyone.
07:30I told everyone to leave the lunch box.
07:33I told everyone to leave the lunch box.
07:37I told all my classmates
07:40who came from Yamato
07:43not to eat the lunch box.
07:46I told them to leave the lunch box.
07:49There was a hole in the lunch box.
07:52I opened it.
07:54There was a lizard.
07:56It came out of the hole.
07:58I told everyone to eat the lunch box.
08:01I told everyone to eat the lunch box.
08:04After that,
08:06everyone ate the sweet potato.
08:09No one was embarrassed.
08:11I told everyone to dig a hole in the lunch box.
08:14I told everyone to dig a hole in the lunch box.
08:18I told everyone to die.
08:21I set fire to the lunch box.
08:23I burned it.
08:25You came from Tokyo.
08:28You have a life force.
08:31You have a leadership.
08:33Until I was in the fourth grade,
08:36I was conquered by everyone.
08:39You were conquered.
08:41You were a pot kingdom.
08:43Everyone followed me.
08:46I fought every day.
08:49When I was in the fifth grade in Tokyo,
08:52I asked my mother not to call me to school.
08:55You promised your mother.
08:58You said you wouldn't fight.
09:00I said I wouldn't fight.
09:02I said I wouldn't fight.
09:04But I couldn't speak.
09:07I couldn't speak.
09:10I couldn't speak.
09:14It's easy to say out oneself.
09:19It is a little capricious time.
09:22I can speak as soon as somebody says me.
09:26With mother at school, I don't have to speak.
09:28You can't speak.
09:30You can fight at first.
09:36But if you fight at the end,
09:39there will be rumors about your fight.
09:41Do you know why I did it?
09:43Because I like you. I want to get along with you.
09:46That's why I did it.
09:48Even if you cry and ask me to get along with you,
09:51I won't hate you for shaking hands with me.
09:54I can get along with you.
09:56I've been doing this until I was in high school and college.
10:02However, I couldn't stand it.
10:06I came to Tokyo and went to school for a week.
10:09Before I knew it, I was mentally unstable.
10:14On my way home from school,
10:16I put all my underwear in my socks.
10:21I couldn't stand it anymore.
10:23So when I came home,
10:25I thought I had to wash it secretly.
10:29I couldn't show it to my mother.
10:31Because it lasted for three days,
10:34I couldn't stand it anymore.
10:37So I decided to do it.
10:39I decided to do it.
10:41When I went to school,
10:43I decided to do it.
10:45On that day, I went to the movie theater
10:48at Kamata station
10:51to see a movie called
10:54The Man from the Sea.
10:57I went to see a movie called
11:00The Man from the Sea.
11:03When I saw the movie,
11:06I thought it was a wonderful place.
11:09I was alone in the dark.
11:12I didn't have anyone to talk to.
11:16I had my own place.
11:20I thought it was a wonderful place.
11:24When I was a kid.
11:26When I finished school,
11:29I went to the movie theater.
11:31I thought I could put up with all the humiliation.
11:35I thought I could put up with all the humiliation.
11:37That was in 1925.
11:39I was deeply immersed in the culture of Tokyo.
11:42It's only been five years since the end of the war.
11:45It's only been five years since the end of the war.
11:47When Japan was still poor.
11:49When Japan was still poor.
11:50Fortunately, in 1925,
11:53On June 20,
11:56On June 20, the Korean War broke out.
11:59I went to see the opening day of Go-Tan-Da,
12:01I went to see the opening day of Go-Tan-Da,
12:04the movie theater in the Shinkan.
12:07I went to see the movie theater in the Shinkan.
12:10The staff said that it would be a big deal.
12:15They said that the price of metal was going to rise.
12:21They said that the price of metal was going to rise.
12:24When I heard that, I went to school.
12:27There was an old man who I always got along with, but he wasn't good at Japanese.
12:33He said,
12:35''Hey, where are you going?''
12:39We got along from the first day.
12:42He said, ''You are a strange dog.''
12:45''Why?''
12:47I asked him.
12:49''Because you are black.''
12:51''Black dog.''
12:53''Big black dog.''
12:55He said, ''This dog can't be anyone but me.''
13:00''You are a black dog.''
13:03That's what he said.
13:06Then he bought me a lot of things.
13:09When I asked him to buy me a lot of things,
13:11he made me eat a lot of persimmon rice cakes.
13:14He said, ''Let's split it in half.''
13:17I got along with him.
13:19He said, ''I have an idea for you.''
13:25He said, ''Do you know where the money is?''
13:31I said, ''Your house is a steel mill.''
13:36He said, ''Yes.''
13:38I said, ''Take the money and come to me.''
13:42He said, ''I'll give you money.''
13:44I said, ''What?''
13:46I said, ''There is a steel mill in the place where you split the money.''
13:52I thought something was going to happen.
13:56I saw a lot of dust on the ground.
14:00There were a lot of employees.
14:02They played baseball during the lunch break.
14:04They said, ''It hurts.''
14:06I thought, ''This is it.''
14:08So I did it with a pickaxe.
14:12You cleaned the ground.
14:15I collected a lot of money.
14:17My father said,
14:19''You're great, Osamu-chan.''
14:21''We know it hurts.''
14:24''Thank you.''
14:26I collected money and gave it to Kanai-san.
14:29I collected a lot of money.
14:31The first steel mill was 30 yen.
14:34But the tower was red.
14:41It was 80 yen for 100 steel mills.
14:45It was 60 yen for 100 brass mills.
14:50It was 30 yen for the first steel mill.
14:53I said, ''Collect this kind of money.''
14:56He said, ''Yes.''
14:58I said, ''Take it.''
15:00He said, ''Yes.''
15:02I collected the money and gave it to Kanai-san.
15:04I was surprised.
15:06He said, ''You're great.
15:09He gave me a lot of money.
15:12What's great about Kanai-san is that
15:14he doesn't cheat me because I'm a child.
15:18I was surprised.
15:20I thought, ''Does this really make money?''
15:24I stole 30 yen from my mother every day.
15:29I put 300 yen in here.
15:33My mother knew I didn't want to fight.
15:37She told me to change my hiding place.
15:42She put the island between the futons on purpose.
15:47I was watching from here.
15:49She was a kind mother.
15:51She thought I was trying to relieve stress so that I wouldn't fight.
15:58So I put 300 yen in there.
16:03She said, ''Osami, you did something to your mother's wallet, didn't you?''
16:07I said, ''I'm not going to die.''
16:10My mother cried when she saw me.
16:14She cried.
16:17I was happy.
16:19I have a movie theater that costs 30 yen and 15 yen for children.
16:25It's usually 30 yen.
16:28I spent 10 yen on a pamphlet.
16:30It was 10 yen for two small pamphlets.
16:34I said, ''I won't eat this. I'll buy a pamphlet.''
16:38I collected pamphlets.
16:40I still have it.
16:42Do you still have it?
16:43I still keep everything.
16:45It's an old version.
16:49It's a museum.
16:51You got it when you were in elementary school, didn't you?
16:54Yes.
16:55It's been about 25 years.
16:57It's been more than 70 years.
16:59I collected pamphlets.
17:02That's a lot of money.
17:04How many movies did you watch before you graduated high school?
17:08I watched more than 200 movies in a year.
17:11But when I was in high school, I had other things to do.
17:17I played rugby.
17:19Did you want to work in the world of movies later?
17:23I decided when I was in fifth grade.
17:26Did you decide?
17:27Yes.
17:28Hibari Misora's movie, ''Sad Whistle'' was a big hit.
17:32It was shot in 1994.
17:37He decided to be a movie actor when he was in fifth grade.
17:44I decided to be a dramatic actor.
17:47Where did you decide?
17:49I watched the reaction of the audience for the second time.
17:56At first, I watched the movie, but I laughed here.
17:59The second time, I thought about how the audience would laugh here.
18:04Like this.
18:06I decided to go beyond the screen.
18:12Did you have a target actor?
18:15I didn't have one at that time.
18:17When I was in junior high school, there was a movie called ''Honjitsu Kyushin''.
18:23There was a man who helped a doctor.
18:27He took care of me when I was hospitalized.
18:30When I got better, he stole things from my room.
18:38When I stole things, the audience laughed.
18:48I was aiming for this.
18:51When I was in junior high school, there was a movie called ''Tatara Juntsu''.
18:55I asked Mr. Tatara about it.
18:57He said, ''I made my debut as a movie actor. Did you watch it?''
19:01He had a factory in my house.
19:05The factory was a little big.
19:08Tokyo was the head office.
19:10Niigata, Itoigawa, Amagasaki, Kyoto, and Kitano were the head offices.
19:17My father's brother was the president.
19:20My father was the executive director.
19:23When I was in junior high school, my father and uncle told me,
19:29''If you go to college, I'll leave Niigata to you.''
19:35I thought I had to get out of here.
19:40I went to Mr. Taiko Hirabayashi and asked him to lend me 300,000 yen.
19:45What kind of relationship did you have with Mr. Taiko Hirabayashi?
19:48He was my father's old friend.
19:51Mr. Taiko Hirabayashi was a writer.
19:55He lent 300,000 yen to his friend.
19:59How could he do that?
20:02I asked my father why he did that.
20:07I calculated that I would get a lot of money from my father.
20:11You're smart.
20:13I often went to Mr. Taiko Hirabayashi's house.
20:16I often went to Mr. Taiko Hirabayashi's house.
20:21I asked him to lend me 300,000 yen.
20:24He said, ''What if I can't pay you back?''
20:27I said, ''I'll pay you back with my body.''
20:30He said, ''Oh, my God.''
20:34I thought he had misunderstood something.
20:37He was still young.
20:39I thought he was saying that he would pay me back with his body.
20:46I asked him why he would use that money.
20:49He said, ''I can't go on my way unless I leave my house.''
20:53He said, ''I'll leave my house and do self-employment.''
20:56At that time, I had just become a broadcaster.
21:00Oh, I see.
21:02When I entered the university, I went to a joke workshop.
21:08Why did you go there?
21:11It's a strange story.
21:13I was told to go to university.
21:17I was an outlaw.
21:19Were you dating an outlaw?
21:21When I was a high school student...
21:23An outlaw?
21:25I was an outlaw.
21:27I was a student.
21:29When I watched a movie on the street, I was about to lose my watch.
21:35At that time, I was fighting to save myself.
21:39I was caught by the police.
21:41I was told to come here.
21:43I was taken to the dark sea.
21:45I was told to fight together.
21:48He said, ''You can't grow up.''
21:52''You don't belong in our society.''
21:55''Aim for higher education.''
21:58That's what he told me.
22:00He was a famous outlaw.
22:04Everyone knows him.
22:07Everyone knows an outlaw.
22:12He was my best friend's brother.
22:16He didn't want his brother to follow his path.
22:23He knew I was his friend.
22:26He told me, ''Aim for higher education.''
22:33He was a college student.
22:35Outlaws also went to college?
22:37Yes.
22:38All of them.
22:40All of them went to college.
22:42All of them.
22:44All of them.
22:46All of them went to college.
22:48All of them went to college.
22:50All of them went to college.
22:52When I heard about him,
22:55when I heard about him,
22:59I went to the Ginza building.
23:03I went to the Ginza building.
23:06I went to the Ginza building.
23:08I was surprised to see a tape.
23:12I was surprised to see a tape.
23:15I saw the sign.
23:17I saw the sign.
23:19You've arrived there!
23:21I thought it'd disappeared,
23:23I thought it'd disappeared,
23:25but it finally showed up.
23:27I had to let go of it.
23:29I had to let go of it.
23:31When I looked down the stairs,
23:33I saw my favorite show called Jodan-ongaku-toka.
23:37I saw my favorite show called Jodan-ongaku-toka.
23:39When I walked inside,
23:41I asked the host to perform.
23:44That was sudden.
23:46Then, a woman said,
23:48I don't have a smile on my face.
23:50I don't have a special look.
23:52It's useless.
23:53Buy it.
23:55It's useless.
23:56I'm wearing these...
23:59...very cheap...
24:01...lens...
24:02...toy glasses.
24:04I...
24:06You have a bad eye?
24:07I don't have a bad eye.
24:09Then I have to debut with that.
24:11What?
24:12What?
24:13Next time, I'll wear a lot of clothes.
24:16So, I went there again.
24:18Don't you know him?
24:20I know him.
24:21I don't know him.
24:22He's like a character.
24:23He comes every day.
24:25So, I went there again.
24:27There was a door in the back.
24:30Hey, come here.
24:33That's Mr. Torilo.
24:35He said to me,
24:37Hey, bring me a radio tape.
24:41He brought a lot of things.
24:45That's a storyboard.
24:47If you want to be an experienced artist,
24:49you have to understand the book.
24:51That's the most important thing.
24:53He said,
24:54Hey, let's make a theme.
24:56He gave me a firework,
24:58a seawater bath,
24:59and a lot of themes.
25:01I wrote a storyboard in a week.
25:04It's a theme of fireworks.
25:06Do you write a storyboard?
25:08There are a lot of themes,
25:10like breakfast,
25:14flowers,
25:16and so on.
25:18I wrote a storyboard.
25:21Mr. Torilo was there.
25:25Did you write all of this?
25:27Yes.
25:29I see.
25:31I gave you a scholarship.
25:35So, every Wednesday,
25:37at 4 p.m.,
25:40Mr. Torilo told me the name of the apartment
25:45and the address of the apartment.
25:50He said,
25:51Hey, bring this.
25:53If you do that,
25:54will he look at it?
25:55I said,
25:56Yes.
25:57I rang the doorbell,
25:58and Mr. Torilo came in.
25:59I said,
26:00Hey, Mr. Torilo, come in.
26:02He put on his glasses,
26:04and he didn't look at it at all.
26:06Then, I met a man who told me a lot of stories.
26:10He was Kinki Nosaka.
26:12What?
26:14Mr. Torilo,
26:16sometimes you surprise me.
26:19What are you talking about?
26:21He is a comedian.
26:23Did you want to be an actor?
26:25I wanted to be an actor,
26:27so I graduated from high school early.
26:29I thought the TV era would come.
26:32Did you think so?
26:34I thought the era of TV would come.
26:36I thought the era of TV would come
26:38when Japanese TV started broadcasting in 1928.
26:41I thought the era of TV would come.
26:43I thought the era of TV would come.
26:45Then, the era of TV came,
26:47when movies became popular.
26:50Then, the era of TV was that
26:52all people who graduated from college would die.
26:55Then,
26:56comedians would be ridiculed
26:59if they didn't go to school.
27:02I wanted to graduate from college,
27:05so I studied acting and graduated from high school.
27:11Who did you work with?
27:13I worked with Hiroshi Mizuhara.
27:17I told him that I would go to Kyoto tomorrow.
27:20I took the Tsubame and went to Kyoto.
27:22There was no Shinkansen yet.
27:24I took the Tsubame for the first time.
27:26The Tsubame of Shindai Ressha.
27:28Then, I went to a restaurant.
27:31I said,
27:32I want to eat eel.
27:34I said,
27:35I want to eat eel, too.
27:37Then, Kaji, my manager,
27:39stepped on my feet.
27:41He said,
27:42you like Kitsune Udon, don't you?
27:44I said,
27:45I don't like Kitsune Udon.
27:47He said,
27:48I don't like Kitsune Udon.
27:50I said,
27:51I don't like Kitsune Udon.
27:53I said,
27:54I don't like Kitsune Udon.
27:56I realized that I shouldn't eat
27:58Kitsune Udon.
27:59I realized that I shouldn't eat Kitsune Udon.
28:01Then, he said goodbye to me.
28:03Then, I arrived in Kyoto.
28:05I went to a hotel.
28:07It was dark inside.
28:09Behind the hotel,
28:11there was a glass window.
28:13Two men were sitting there.
28:15I couldn't see clearly.
28:17I didn't know who they were.
28:19Then, Mizuhara said,
28:21this is the hot pot of Tsukibito.
28:23There was a man sitting there.
28:25Hey, Mizuhara.
28:26You haven't had a disciple yet, have you?
28:29So,
28:30I'll take care of him from today.
28:33I'll train him to be a Tsukibito.
28:35I'll give him back to you.
28:37What do you think, brother?
28:38Oh, that's good.
28:39That's right.
28:40You take care of him.
28:42So, this is the hot pot of Katsushintaro,
28:44the hot pot of Wakayama and Mizuhara.
28:46Katsushintaro and Wakayama and Mizuhara
28:48were lined up.
28:49So, from the night I arrived in Mizuhara,
28:53I was in Katsushintaro's room.
28:57For 40 days,
28:59I was told what to do with Tsukibito.
29:02You were told?
29:03Yes.
29:04I went to Uzumasa Daiei.
29:06But you met a good person.
29:08I thought it was important.
29:10On the 40th,
29:11I came back to Tokyo.
29:12I made a phone call.
29:14Are you Otaku?
29:15Oh, I'm sorry.
29:16I'm Watanabe.
29:17Please teach me.
29:18I came out.
29:19OK.
29:20I'm Watanabe from Tokyo.
29:22Oh, thank you.
29:24Hinako asked me.
29:27Hinako?
29:28I said to the president.
29:31The president?
29:33Eh?
29:34Otaku?
29:35Who are you?
29:36I'm Watanabe from Tokyo.
29:38What?
29:39I'm from Mizuhara in Tokyo.
29:44Idiot!
29:45You're not Watanabe.
29:46You're a hot pot.
29:47You're a hot pot, idiot!
29:50I made a game called Hot Pot Osami.
29:54Oh, I see.
29:56I'm Watanabe.
29:58Your real name is Watanabe.
30:00Did you win?
30:01Yes.
30:02So I said,
30:03I'm not Watanabe.
30:05I said,
30:06I'm Watato.
30:07I said,
30:08I'm hot pot.
30:09I said,
30:10I'm Osami.
30:11It took a long time.
30:13It's an interesting story.
30:15You finally made your debut.
30:18I didn't know that Katsu-san would say that.
30:23Who did Katsu-san think you were?
30:27Shin Watanabe.
30:28He's the president of Watanabe Pro.
30:31You joined Watanabe Production, right?
30:34Yes.
30:35I've been a fan of Mizuhara for about three years.
30:39When Mizuhara left Watanabe Pro,
30:42Shin Watanabe said,
30:44Don't go to the front.
30:46Stay with me.
30:48Shin Watanabe gave me 5,000 yen per month for my elementary school.
30:55I've been a fan of Mizuhara since I was a kid.
30:58Shin Watanabe is a passionate person.
31:00Yes, he is.
31:01Everyone says that.
31:03Yes.
31:04I went to Bonkure for 30 years after I died.
31:09You were in your prime.
31:11Yes.
31:12You were in your prime.
31:14Yes, I was.
31:15I started Watanabe Pro in the early 30s.
31:20It was the same time as the TV was going bankrupt.
31:24There were no famous actors yet.
31:26Makoto Fujita wasn't in it either.
31:28I see.
31:29Wasn't Katsu-san in it?
31:31He's not in it yet.
31:32What about Crazy Cats?
31:34Crazy Cats is still there.
31:35It was a production specializing in bands and singers like Crazy Cats.
31:44Crazy Cats wasn't about making people laugh.
31:48It was a band.
31:49The band was doing something to make people laugh.
31:54That's right.
31:55So, Drifters got along well.
31:57Yes, they did.
31:58Drifters are people who want to catch up with Crazy Cats.
32:06It was the best time of the entertainment industry.
32:09Yes, it was.
32:10It was getting better and better.
32:12So, I graduated from college and became independent from Hana Hajime two years later.
32:18Hana-san was an interesting person.
32:20Yes.
32:21It's been a year and eight months.
32:24After this, Tsukibito, talent, broadcaster, and writer.
32:30We look back at the age of newbies who worked with three jobs.
32:38I thought that if I went on like this, I would lose my motivation.
32:43So, I quit my job and joined Tsukibito.
32:53Kyu Sakamoto's film, Ashita ga Arusa, was a hit.
32:57It was the first time the Olympics were held in Japan.
33:01It was in the year 1939.
33:07Osami Nade became popular with Shabondama Holiday.
33:12She focused on Tsukibito for some reason.
33:18You made your debut when you were young.
33:20Did it take a long time to become a comedian?
33:26Yes, it did.
33:27When I was young, I had my own radio show called Disc Jockey.
33:39I did a regular program on TV.
33:42Did you do it?
33:43Yes, I did.
33:44It was a music program that I hosted.
33:49You did it?
33:50Yes, I did.
33:51At that time, I was a cast member and a talent.
33:55After that, I was the teacher of the next week's broadcaster.
34:00I said, next week, let's do this.
34:04When I went to my father's house, I became a boy.
34:07So, I became like this in a day.
34:11You changed a lot.
34:12Yes, I did.
34:13But I thought that if I went on like this, I would lose my motivation.
34:19So, I said, let me quit the program.
34:23I quit the program I had as a broadcaster.
34:27Then, I entered the world of Tsukibito.
34:30But at that time, you were a broadcaster and you were on TV.
34:34That's when you became Tsukibito.
34:37It's amazing that you try to do that.
34:41I thought I had to do that.
34:43When I was in the second year of high school, I was a dropout.
34:47Of course, you will be a dropout.
34:49I was a dropout.
34:51At that time, my father put a lot of books on my pillow.
34:56Your father?
34:57Yes.
34:58It was Montecristo Acuda, Shinsho Taikouki, Miyamoto Musashi, Yoshikawa Eiji.
35:04I had an idea in Shinsho Taikouki.
35:10I decided to live my whole life as Tokichiro.
35:15Oh, you were going to be a monk.
35:18I decided to have my own mansion.
35:21I decided to devote myself to this person.
35:24I decided to live my life with my own characteristics.
35:29I decided that I didn't need to be a monk.
35:33I decided that I wasn't that kind of person.
35:36That's why I always had Watanabe Shin, Mizuhara Hiroshi, Hanahajime, and Tanike around me.
35:43In the old days, there were a lot of people like that.
35:49There were people who wanted to make this person their leader in various genres.
35:55Morishige Hisaya, Hanahajime.
35:58If you join this person, you become a true monk.
36:01No matter what this person says.
36:03You were a tsukibito, but you became a popular person in Shabondama Holiday.
36:08In the end, you didn't fit in Tokichiro.
36:11No, it was Tokichiro.
36:14It wasn't Tokichiro.
36:16I was angry.
36:18That's because you chose that kind of thing.
36:21I've been asking you for a long time.
36:24That's why I thought it was okay.
36:26It was decided.
36:28He gave me a long letter.
36:30I'm a junior.
36:32I don't have to do that.
36:34I'm telling you this because I want you to come out.
36:38I thought you were the right person.
36:41When I was down and couldn't do a lonely job for six years,
36:50When I turned on the TV in the middle of the night,
36:53There was a program that this person was doing with only two people.
36:59I thought it would be a good story.
37:04I quit my job in 2024.
37:08From January 1st, I joined a small production company.
37:16This is actually my first job.
37:19Is that so? That's good.
37:21Didn't you work that much?
37:25I've been in Yoshimoto for five years.
37:29There was a drama that I asked a friend to put out.
37:37There was no movie or radio.
37:41It's 1991 when the incident happened.
37:47That's right. It was in 1993.
37:49That's a long time ago.
37:51It's been about 35 years since 1991.
37:56It may be a misfortune.
37:59But it's a life of reversal.
38:02There are still places you don't have to go.
38:05Your wife passed away.
38:08Did you protect her after the incident?
38:12That's right.
38:14I couldn't live without her protection.
38:19She protected me from everything.
38:22I got a lot of my favorite pictures.
38:27I sold them one by one.
38:33Did you sell them?
38:34Yes, I did.
38:36So I sold all the expensive watches I had.
38:40My wife lived for over 30 years.
38:43I had a hard time with her.
38:46But she was the one who supported me.
38:49Did you say goodbye to her when she passed away?
38:53Yes.
38:54I had been waiting for her for a long time.
38:56I took her to the hospital because I was sick with a cold.
39:01When I went to the hospital, her lungs were white.
39:04I went to the hospital the next day.
39:07I took care of her.
39:10When I was about to go home, she said,
39:12I said,
39:14I went back to her and asked her what happened.
39:16She said,
39:18You are a pothead.
39:21You are a pothead.
39:26That's what she said.
39:28I thought,
39:29I am a pothead.
39:31I thought I should shine as a pothead again.
39:36So I went to the hospital.
39:39That was her last words.
39:42I was called to the hospital in the middle of the night.
39:45I couldn't speak, drink, or eat.
39:49That was the last thing you said?
39:51Yes.
39:53You said,
39:54I can't speak because I have a cold.
39:56You were desperate.
39:57You said,
39:58I have to tell her.
40:00You can't lose your confidence.
40:02You are a pothead.
40:05You should have told her that.
40:08Rather than saying that,
40:11you should have said,
40:13I heard it, too.
40:14You are a pothead.
40:16You are a pothead.
40:18You are a pothead.
40:21It's a great word.
40:23There were times when people wanted to abandon the pothead.
40:27That means we shouldn't abandon the pothead.
40:29That's right.
40:30We shouldn't lose.
40:32This is a story about Sasaru Miko, a Japanese actress.
40:38She was very popular.
40:42Who?
40:43Nabe-san.
40:45Nabe-san?
40:47My mother always told me to be careful in the movie.
40:53She said,
40:55I have thin eyes, so I want to be with someone with big eyes.
41:00So, when I was entering my own world,
41:04I chose someone with big eyes.
41:09Sasaru Miko or Asaoka Ruriko.
41:14What are those two choices?
41:17So, I chose Sasaru Miko.
41:21Sasaru Miko?
41:23I think she was very happy.
41:25She was cute.
41:27In that incident, only Takeshi-san...
41:31A letter from Takeshi-san to Nabe-san while in confinement.
41:37It's one of my treasures.
41:40What is that?
41:46He was in confinement because of the Kaedama incident.
41:50Nabe Osami-san was weak because of the media.
41:56He was given hope to live by the words of Takeshi Minito.
42:04In that incident,
42:07the only person who was close to me on TV was Takeshi-san.
42:14Nabe-san was his third wife.
42:17I was so happy to hear that.
42:21Suddenly, I received a fax.
42:26I put it in the cabinet and treasure it.
42:30I put it on display.
42:32He is a kind person.
42:35He wrote a letter and went to drink alone.
42:40What is that?
42:42He was like this.
42:44When he had to go back to Tokyo,
42:49he said to the president,
42:51If you give it back, you'll be laughed at.
42:54That's why I'm here now.
42:56I asked him,
42:58Didn't you say that?
43:00He was like that.
43:02It's one of my treasures.
43:05But he endured it well.
43:10The world is already in a mess.
43:15People have already forgotten.
43:18The only thing left is the pain.
43:21I still have SNS.
43:24People say a lot of things,
43:27but he is still there.
43:30I wonder why he has the right to be in such a mess.
43:35There are many kind people.
43:38There are 50 and 50.
43:41There are people in Kansai.
43:44There are people in Tokyo.
43:46But if you go in order,
43:49there is a difference in culture.
43:52When you come back from a cold life,
43:56you stand on the stage.
43:59In Tokyo, a cold gaze is blown.
44:04I feel it on my skin when I'm on stage.
44:07He used me as a villain.
44:10I've never been a villain.
44:12But after the incident, I was a villain.
44:16I thought it couldn't be helped, so I took it.
44:19When the light hits a dark place,
44:22I stand like this.
44:26It's Osaka all of a sudden.
44:29Nabe-chan, you shouldn't lose.
44:36If you're a parent, anyone can do it.
44:39But I'm a villain.
44:42If I was a normal role,
44:45I would say,
44:48I like you. Thank you.
44:51But I'm a villain.
44:54I was crying like this.
44:59I thought at that time.
45:02I thought he understood that kind of thing in Osaka.
45:12I'm grateful to the audience.
45:16There are many people.
45:19I'm saying 50-50,
45:21but the way I see it is stronger.
45:24It seems that all the people in the world are hitting.
45:29I think there are a lot of people who are shocked by the story.
45:36Nabe-san has been in the entertainment business for more than 60 years.
45:41Even now, there are words that he cherishes very much.
45:47As the last enlightenment of the year,
45:52there is something I wrote in the short story.
45:57I don't talk about the short story.
46:00I don't talk about my own good.
46:05I don't talk about my own good.
46:08I don't talk about my own good.
46:11Let's stop saying that.
46:13Let's stop saying bad things about people.
46:16Everyone has their own drawbacks.
46:18If you can do this properly,
46:21I think human society will go well.
46:24It's the last enlightenment of the year.
46:26I don't talk about the short story.
46:28I don't talk about my own good.
46:31It's a good word.
46:33It's wonderful.
46:35There was a person like this in the entertainment industry.
46:38He never said bad things about people.
46:411. Sanpei 2. Makishin 3. Sanji 5. Tanike
46:47He made it like this.
46:49Hayashiya Sanpei never said bad things about people.
46:53When everyone gathers and it's time to wait,
46:56actors and singers say bad things about people.
47:00It's a bloodbath.
47:02If you say bad things about people,
47:04Sanpei will stay silent and disappear.
47:09Makishinji is the same.
47:11If you say bad things about people,
47:13he will disappear.
47:15Tanike also said bad things about people.
47:18I've never heard of him in my life.
47:21It's the last enlightenment of the year.
47:26I heard a good story.
47:29Is there anything you want to do from now on?
47:32I don't have a regular job for decades.
47:37I want to have a regular job.
47:40Let's change.
47:42That's your job.
47:44I want to have a regular job on TV.
47:47How old are you now?
47:4915 years old.
47:51That's great.
47:53What does today mean to you?
47:59It's a day to confirm.
48:03I think the world is not abandoned.
48:07I will start from here.
48:17At the end, Showa's great senior,
48:20Nabe Osami's words of life.
48:28Anyway, the sun will rise again.
48:33Thank you, Nabe Osami.
48:38The next great senior is Ruriko Asaoka,
48:43who played a role in the Japanese-style movie,
48:47Golden Age, and now also appears in Taiga dramas.
48:51She will talk about the play of Showa.
48:56Tetsu is in the first volume.
48:59This is really new.
49:02You're good at imitating Kanae.