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00:00There's been a lot of feedback from Assassin's Creed Shadows recently.
00:03Coe Carnage released his very, very short thoughts on the game.
00:06We're going to listen to him right here.
00:07Hi, everybody.
00:08Coe here with an early thoughts video on Assassin's Creed Shadows.
00:13I am not the biggest recent Assassin's Creed fan.
00:17I have not played the most recent iterations to completion.
00:21My last kind of big favorite Assassin's Creed was probably Black Flag,
00:25and I did really enjoy the first ones, especially the Desmond Nurse for the story.
00:28I know. Don't crucify me.
00:30But I with Assassin's Creed Shadows, you know, this this has been
00:33a relatively troubled project from a relatively troubled company.
00:36Let's be real. Ubisoft is very troubled.
00:40It's had a lot of multiple the way interesting stuff lately,
00:42and this particular project has had a lot of controversy around it.
00:45So I came into this with very low expectations as somebody
00:50who has kind of gotten tired of the general Assassin's Creed loop
00:53and and, you know, was not super engaged with it.
00:58I plan on giving it a stream,
00:59seeing how it was probably doing one reasonable and then just calling it.
01:03So now that I played it for a stream and I'm playing it for a second stream,
01:07I can say that Assassin's Creed Shadows is fine.
01:12It's fine if.
01:14Yeah, it's like a six to six or seven game.
01:18It's it's not like game of the year.
01:21It's fine.
01:24Yeah, it's like Starfield.
01:28Oh, God.
01:35Oh, shit.
01:40I think Starfield is Starfield was like a five or a six.
01:44This game's like a six or a seven.
01:49It's like basically it's in the same tier list as like Vale Guard
01:54Starfield.
01:59You know, Assassin's Creed Shadows.
02:02Was there another mid game?
02:05Is there another avowed? Yeah, avowed.
02:07That's another mid game. Yeah, I would say so.
02:10Yeah, these are all pretty much in the same category of games
02:14where they're all like relatively mediocre.
02:17But if you have time to kill and you have time to kill,
02:21but if you have time to kill and you want to play the game,
02:26it's not the worst game that's ever been made.
02:30That is that a good way to say it?
02:31Like that's the way I feel about a lot of these games is that
02:34and these are all like these triple A games that are made by Western studios.
02:39And what triple A Western games love to do is they love to do everything
02:43that doesn't matter perfectly, and they like to do everything
02:47that does matter wrong.
02:49Feels like Assassin's Creed.
02:51It's very, very pretty.
02:53It does have a bit more of kind of like a ninja angle to it.
02:57A little bit more kind of like Tenchu-y, Ghost of Tsushima-y.
03:00And that's been engaging.
03:01I also really like the setting.
03:02I'm a fan of Japanese games, so it's been again with the very nice graphics.
03:06That's been really pretty.
03:07Yeah, the progression system has been OK.
03:10It's very RPG-ified, like the more recent entries to Assassin's Creed.
03:13So it's very numbers based, very heavily level based with perks
03:17and things like that.
03:18It's been pretty fun to explore and seeing like what we can really do
03:21to become the ninja that they kind of sold this game with
03:24has also been pretty engaging.
03:26I don't want to be the ninja.
03:27I want to be the fucking tank.
03:30Like whenever, like...
03:32So I have the talent to where like if Yusuke runs into somebody,
03:36he deals damage to them.
03:38So I have him running around now
03:42where he can shoulder check the random NPCs like these random servant ladies.
03:46He just shoulder checks them and kills them.
03:52So stupid.
03:55Also, there is this kind of weird...
03:56Yes.
03:57Not really weird, but this kind of base building mechanic
04:00where you actually get to place buildings and stuff,
04:02which is far more in-depth than I was expecting.
04:04So kind of exploring that system is something I want to do before we're done.
04:08But to kind of get to the end of it, like...
04:12It overall, it feels just like another entry.
04:15Like this is not a black flag.
04:17This is not a revival of any kind.
04:19It feels like another entry.
04:21Business as usual.
04:23I'm not one of the people that's kind of like hugely into the controversy
04:27about this game.
04:28I mean, let's be real.
04:29The Assassin's Creed franchise has visited lots of historical locations
04:32over its, what, 14 games?
04:35It did, but it didn't do it at the same time
04:38that they were patronizing and virtue signaling to their audience.
04:41That's the difference.
04:42That's the reason why people are mad about this one,
04:43particularly, and not the other ones,
04:45is that the other ones, everybody knew it was bullshit
04:48and they never tried to hang on to it.
04:50But, oh, but this is what history says.
04:53That's the difference, why people are mad.
04:55Which, by the way, I was right about when I said that.
04:58Remember whenever I said that Yasuke would not even be in the top
05:0110 problems this game has whenever the game comes out?
05:04I was right.
05:06I think it's a little weird that all of a sudden
05:07everyone's like super concerned about historical accuracy with this one.
05:11It's because they feel like they're being patronized.
05:13That's the reason why.
05:15Granted, Ubisoft may have kind of shot themselves in the foot
05:17by publicly saying that they were going to try to be a bit more accurate.
05:20Exactly. Yeah, that's the reason.
05:22Yeah, he's right.
05:23You know, that's on them.
05:24But I will say that, like, that's not something that ever bothers me
05:27because that's kind of something they've always done.
05:29So, yeah, maybe outside of some of the other decisions.
05:32But, yeah.
05:33Anyway, now that we're at the end of this early thoughts video,
05:36that's kind of where we are.
05:37I don't really plan on finishing the game.
05:39I mean, I might, but it's the kind of thing where I'm kind of just playing this
05:42now because there's not really any other big games I'm playing currently.
05:45And it's just fun enough to kind of keep me wanting to explore
05:48the mechanics and everything.
05:49Yeah. But that's kind of where we are.
05:51TLDR. Jesus.
05:52It's fine.
05:54It's fine. It's kind of where we are.
05:56So, yeah, best thing you can do if you'd like is check out the playthrough
06:00we have, see if it's your speed, see if it's what you're looking for.
06:02Most importantly, see if it has what you like in an Assassin's Creed game
06:06and kind of go from there.
06:07Anyway, thanks for watching.
06:09Don't know if we'll have a final thoughts video, so this may be it.
06:10So thank you and have a good one.
06:12Bye bye, man.
06:14So he just said, yeah, it's like it's not that good is whatever.
06:17There's a link to the video right there.
06:19And there it is. Low standards.
06:21Yes. Very, very, very low standards, I guess.
06:23So and it's sad to see it happen.
06:26But there you go.
06:27At the end of the same stream, he said he was done with the game
06:29and he's going to play Rise of the Ronin instead.
06:31Yeah. So basically, let me see if I can find this.
06:35Yeah, here we go.
06:36So you can see how this happened.
06:39So Assassin's Creed, Assassin's Creed, Assassin's Creed, Assassin's Creed.
06:43So what happened at the very end of this?
06:47I want to know what happened at the very end.
06:50For me, it's fine, but it's OK.
06:53Am I playing the day one patch version?
06:56I don't know.
06:57This is the last four minutes of his stream of Assassin's Creed.
07:05I bet he's going to climb up to the top of this and he's going to quit the game.
07:09The future is usually Indies, isn't it?
07:11Um, I don't know.
07:13You have to go the other way around.
07:15I think Indian AA.
07:16I don't think it's AAA.
07:23Wow.
07:25These are just gorgeous, man.
07:27They do. That's like a house on a boat.
07:30Yeah. I want a house on a boat.
07:32Yeah, it looks nice.
07:37That's a boat house.
07:40Y'all see that over there?
07:41They just like built a giant foundation and they put a house on it
07:44and then put it in the ocean.
07:46Yeah.
07:48We'll probably go over there.
07:50Is that a real thing?
07:51They used to have those?
07:54He's so bored.
07:57They did?
07:59They should make these again.
08:00I guess they're kind of like cruise ships, but that's wild, dude.
08:04I had no idea. Look at the size of that sail, too. Geez.
08:08Wow.
08:10He's going to quit, isn't he?
08:12Oh, no.
08:13Turn it off.
08:15Just turn it off.
08:16Turn it off.
08:18Turn it off. It's over.
08:19It's over. You know it's over.
08:25All right, chat.
08:27I'm taking early lunch today.
08:33I got some errands to stuff around, too.
08:35There it is.
08:36Hi!
08:38Oh, geez, dude.
08:40Look at the time.
08:41I think I'm done with that game.
08:43What did you just say?
08:46I think I'm done with that game.
08:47Wow. I think I'm done.
08:49That was it.
08:50It's it's I feel exactly.
08:51He literally crashed out.
08:54It's the same way. It's fine.
08:56Like, it's fine.
08:57But I think I think I'm done with it.
08:59Actually crashed out.
08:59I don't care enough about the story.
09:04And like, I just don't
09:06I don't know.
09:07Dude, he's talking about this the way I remember
09:09whenever I talked about outlaws.
09:12I'm doing it for me. It's fine.
09:13Yeah, it's OK.
09:15So what I'm going to do is I want to download Rise of the Ronin.
09:17And I think we're going to we're going to see how the PC version is this afternoon.
09:20I have no idea what my plans for Rise of the Ronin are, but I want to
09:25want to try it. Let's see how it is.
09:26Yeah. So I want to I want to see how that that is and see if I get
09:30well into it as much as I did the first time.
09:32For those who don't know, when Rise of the Ronin came out on console,
09:35I did exactly what I did with Assassin's Creed with it.
09:39I said, I'm going to give it a stream.
09:40I don't know if I'm going to play the whole thing.
09:42I'm just going to try it.
09:43And what I ended up doing was I played Rise of the Ronin for a stream.
09:49And I said, wow, this is pretty cool.
09:52I you know what?
09:52I think this game's cool enough that I'm just going to play and.
09:59I have no idea what my plans for Rise of the Ronin are.
10:01Sorry about that.
10:02When Rise of the Ronin came out, I was I played Rise of the Ronin for a stream.
10:07I just randomly hit a button on my hand.
10:09I said, wow, this is pretty cool.
10:11I you know what?
10:11I think this game's cool enough that I'm just going to play the main story. Yeah.
10:16And then a week later, I had done every single thing
10:19I could in the first region, literally the same thing in the first region.
10:22Yes, I did the exact same thing right when I was about to go to the second.
10:28Is that when Baldur's Gate three came out?
10:30There was like a huge game came out like right after we did the first region,
10:34and I just never went back to it and I just never went back to it.
10:38So it's a Dragon's Dogma two.
10:41And I'm curious, like if it can grab me again on PC and Co,
10:44I think got sponsored to play Dragon's Dogma two.
10:47So I think he played all the way through Dragon's Dogma two.
10:50And I don't know how by the way, I don't know how I remember this.
10:53But like, yeah, that's what it was.
10:56Like, maybe we could we could do it, I don't know, but yeah.
10:59Anyway, thank you.
11:00Oh, it was Final Fantasy seven Rebirth.
11:03That's what it was.
11:04Oh, yeah, that's what it was.
11:05They came out seven. Rebirth was a thing.
11:07So Rebirth two. I don't know about that.
11:10Anyway, OK, I am out of here for now.
11:13I will be back in like I said, I'm taking an early lunch today,
11:15so I'll be back earlier to probably like eleven, thirty, twelve.
11:19We'll check out Rise of the Ronin this afternoon, see how we like it.
11:21Go from there.
11:22And then, of course, this evening, I'm going to be back.
11:23Go from there.
11:24And then, of course, this evening on Twitch.
11:26TV slash co-host.
11:27Well, there it is, gentlemen.
11:30He was trying to have fun.
11:32He really did. He tried to have fun.
11:34He's got stress eating.
11:36Yeah, I guess so. Right.
11:37His chat app chat set up is kind of cool. Yeah, it is.
11:39I'll link you guys the is this other video.
11:41I mean, obviously, I love Cohen.
11:42So, you know, go miss up, give it a like or whatever.
11:45And man, it's really fucking funny for me to see this.
11:49And also, oh, wait a minute.
11:51Wait for what we buy.
11:52Oh, no. Oh, no.
12:01Oh, oh, oh, we got to watch this part.
12:04We have to watch this part.
12:06Here it is, because he he tweeted about this.
12:09He talked about this here.
12:10Here's what he said.
12:12All done with Assassin's Creed Shadows.
12:14It's fine.
12:14It's more Assassin's Creed.
12:16But to be honest, I found the story and delivery incredibly lacking.
12:18The world's gorgeous, though.
12:20Cool base building mechanics.
12:21Also, the older I get, the less I want to support companies
12:25that put cash shops where you can just buy
12:29the in-game resources in the game.
12:33There's absolutely no way the gameplay isn't affected by these decisions.
12:37Eventually, I'm going to start skipping these games.
12:40Oh, my fucking God.
12:43Yes, I cannot agree with this anymore,
12:46because this is the thing.
12:48If you have a system that you can pay to advance,
12:52that means the system is going to be worse on a baseline
12:54because they want you to pay to advance.
12:56And this is another post that I saw, too.
12:59We have on Twitter, believe it or not, professional dick eaters.
13:05Let me see if I can find the the picture about this.
13:07Where the hell they go? Yes, there we go.
13:09And so I'm fucking dead.
13:11How is this real?
13:12This is from legendary drops.
13:14How is this real?
13:14You can buy a full map unlock for real money in Assassin's Creed Shadows
13:21engineering problems to sell you the solution.
13:24This is what happens when you have a monetization director
13:28for single player games.
13:35Man.
13:36You really don't need that, huh?
13:38I think this is fine. I don't.
13:40I don't.
13:41And and you think it's fine because you're not thinking about it
13:44in the broader scope.
13:47The fact is that think about think about like this.
13:51A gotcha game is a great example of this.
13:54Why do gotcha games have energy systems?
13:59Why?
14:04So you pay to get rid of them so they can get you to log in daily.
14:10I will show you what a gotcha game would look like
14:13if it didn't have an energy system.
14:18I don't know the alphabet, so it's hard.
14:21There's a lot of things that are hard for me, like the alphabet, math.
14:26Grand Blue Fantasy Relink.
14:28This game is a gotcha game that is designed to be fun to play.
14:34It is an amazing game.
14:36And if you look at, by the way, and look at the amount of success
14:40that people have had with this game, let me go back.
14:43I'm going to take a look at the global achievements here.
14:46If you look and you see this.
14:48Let me see if I can find how much of people actually finish the entire game.
14:54Let me go back and find it.
14:56Yes. Wings of Destruction.
14:57I think this is the one this right here.
15:01Is one of the harder achievements to get in the game, I think it is.
15:04It's one of them. I don't remember exactly.
15:06But this is you had such a massively high completion rate for this game.
15:12And the reason why it's such a high completion rate
15:16is because the game was really fun.
15:18The game was really fun and it was a great game.
15:22So gotcha games are made worse on purpose
15:25in order to make people pay for the solutions that the games create.
15:31So you want to know what happens is that the games like Assassin's
15:35Creed, for example, are now.
15:39Like, let me ask you a very simple question.
15:41Do you think that there would be more resources of like the coal
15:44and, you know, wood out in the open world if you couldn't buy them on the store?
15:49Because the answer to that, to me, is an obvious yes.
15:52I think that there are they are they are more scarce.
15:56That way you have to buy them on the store or you want to buy them on the store.
16:02And so they would make it more scarce, so that way they get more people to buy.
16:05Yes. Name one resource.
16:07Well, there's wood, there's coal, there's mon, which is the gold.
16:10And then there's also silk.
16:13And then there's also wheat.
16:15I started the crop stuff as well.
16:17There are like four different different
16:20types of resources that you use in order to buy things.
16:23That's that's what it is, right?
16:26And so I don't know, like you're trying to like make me like look stupid,
16:28like you really asking me, like, do I not remember an item in a video game
16:33like the wrong fucking avenue to try to make me look stupid in?
16:37OK, that's the only place I don't look stupid.
16:41As someone who bought this map pack for ten dollars, I see no issue with this
16:44because it's purely optional.
16:45You're not required to buy this at all.
16:47I did because I'm someone who hated having to look for everything in games.
16:51I just want the icon on the map so I can just go and complete it.
16:59These people don't even realize
17:02that they are in a prison.
17:05They don't even know.
17:07You just want the icon on the map so you can go and complete it.
17:10Has it ever occurred to you that maybe the reason why the icon isn't on the map
17:13and you can't go and complete it is because they can get you to spend ten dollars?
17:21Wait a minute.
17:25No. Peter.
17:32Oh, no, Peter.
17:40It's a dick eating warlord.
17:42Is he a dick? I think he might be a dick eating warlord.
17:45I think you're right.
17:47I do. This is crazy.
17:51A professional. This is this is bad, guys.
17:53This is really bad.
17:55This is really bad.
17:57I'm going to go back to the game.
17:58I'm going to go back to the game.
18:00This is really bad.
18:01I don't even know what to say.
18:03Wow.
18:05Kingdom Come Deliverance is the same mechanic,
18:08but it's a skill you earn in the game.
18:11Yes, exactly. Yes.
18:12And that's what I'm saying, is that all of these systems are designed
18:16with the intention of making you spend money.
18:20OK, here we go.
18:25OK, so there's some people in chat that are convinced
18:27that the battle pass is not viable.
18:33Helix credits are what we buy.
18:36These are Helix credits.
18:39Helix credits you then use on the store
18:43and can then also buy in-game money, in-game resources.
18:49Currently a map pack, you know, see the world.
18:52OK, so that is that is shameless.
18:58There's all that.
19:00So then the actual how do we get to the battle pass thing?
19:03What is that?
19:07That this this is the battle pass thing.
19:11So this uses.
19:15Keys and data fragment.
19:21I this this unlocks with data fragments.
19:25Oh, my God. OK.
19:27OK, so data fragments.
19:31Are not. Keys.
19:36And neither of those.
19:41What the fuck is going on?
19:47What is this?
19:51What do they hire this person from fucking Hoyleverse?
19:55This is insane.
19:58Four different currencies, why?
20:04Are this a single player game?
20:07You can't like at least in Genshin Impact, you can play with somebody else, right?
20:12Well, you can join their world and you can farm, you know, pick mint together
20:17and kill slimes together, you know, but this you can't even do that.
20:21This is amazing.
20:23This credits, how do you do?
20:25I don't think this is outrageous.
20:27You can buy the battle pass items.
20:32I don't think.
20:37Yeah, I think there's three different currencies
20:40before, if you include the end game.
20:43Now, I'm not really sure what what are keys for it said we can be an exchange
20:48said we can be an exchange.
20:50Those doesn't even know.
20:52He's like, OK, and keep in mind, this is this is a man who
20:58he plays complex RPGs on stream on a regular basis.
21:02OK, he's been playing video games his whole life.
21:07Imagine the amount of just
21:11unfathomable complexity that this has
21:16to the guy that heard about this game
21:19from a commercial in between his football match that he was watching.
21:23You know, he heard about this.
21:24You know, he came home on Sunday to watch the big game.
21:27And, you know, he's like, oh, this game looks kind of cool.
21:30Oh, wow. Wow. All right.
21:31Yeah, I think I played that in college.
21:34And then he's like thinking about keys, data fragments,
21:38helix crystals, battle passes, armor items.
21:42Like, what the fuck?
21:43This guy is getting totally fucking like he's overwhelmed, man.
21:47He doesn't know what's going on.
21:53So we earn.
21:54Oh, here's the exchange.
21:56Yeah, he's getting raw dog. He is.
22:00Wait, you literally just get gear.
22:06Wait, you just buy gear.
22:12What?
22:15OK.
22:17And these are like, that's insane.
22:1933% health.
22:22Oh, my God.
22:26OK.
22:29And these are like really good in-game items.
22:32OK, so
22:34why didn't they just make that?
22:36Never mind.
22:37OK, so now it does look like you do have to earn this in the game.
22:40This is not something you can buy.
22:41OK, so sorry about that.
22:43That was that was on me. I was wrong there.
22:45Yeah.
22:47OK, so there you go.
22:50So, yeah, there's a problem.
22:51I mean, can't say those are probably from like dailies and weeklies and stuff.
22:54Yeah.
22:57Dailies and weeklies.
23:02So the only stuff you can buy, I don't know if you can buy in-game items,
23:05you can buy.
23:05Well, what do I say? You can buy money.
23:07So, yes, yes, it's completely.
23:08So wait a minute.
23:11I just realized what the chain of events here was.
23:15He's playing through the game, he's going through it,
23:18and maybe he's not enjoying it a whole lot.
23:20And he opens up the store
23:23and 10 minutes later, less than 10 minutes later,
23:26he kills his character and he quits the game.
23:34In my own person.
23:37He's like just trying to come to terms with it.
23:43Why do they put all that stuff in?
23:45The short answer is because they can. Ubisoft likes to squeeze.
23:48You can tell, bro. You can tell.
23:51Every single penny they can out of their projects.
23:54Yeah. So they have like, you know, single player stores
23:57and the ability to buy in-game currency and the ability to I think
23:59you can even buy levels in other games.
24:02They just don't care.
24:02Anyway, they can get money. They don't care to do it.
24:04So basically, if you will, if you will use it or accept it, they will do it.
24:09Yeah.
24:10Especially these days is the company is like not doing well at all.
24:13So, yeah.
24:18But no, if you want like an example of Corpo gaming,
24:21it's like EA and Ubisoft are the kings, the kings of Corpo.
24:28He's crashing out.
24:30Remember when AC didn't have any of this stuff, the glory days?
24:32Yeah, dude. It was a beautiful time.
24:34Oh, God, this is so bad.
24:37Oh, this is so bad, bro.
24:40This is so bad.
24:44He's ramping. He is.
24:49Is he even going to do the observation thing?
24:51Oh, he is.
24:54Dude, he's already decided he quits.
24:56He already has decided to quit the game.
24:59He didn't even go for the exploration ball.
25:01All you have to do is look up at this and you get bonus points.
25:04He's already decided he quit.
25:08Yeah, because all you have to do is move up.
25:10Because I did this.
25:11He's like, ah, it's too hard to do.
25:12Nah, he's done.
25:14Internet updates on Emberville? Not yet.
25:15No, not yet. We should have some soon.
25:16Talking about another game.
25:18Soon being, hopefully, some time in a few weeks.
25:22Give us a black flag, too.
25:23Ubisoft couldn't make a good black flag, too, at this point.
25:26They would need to sell the Assassin's Creed IP to a different company.
25:30God, if they made a black flag, too, now it would just be loaded
25:33with microtransactions and just like, he's so mad.
25:36This is so good.
25:39Oh, no.
25:41No, no, thanks.
25:42I did it. He did it.
25:45No, thanks.
25:48Man.
25:52Oh,
26:06that we actually have the waypoint here.
26:11Or like a reboot or something that could be kind of cool.
26:14Maybe that could probably work.
26:17like a nice engine upgrade black flag
26:22try the other one
26:34now we're actually like chunking down enemies are level it feels a lot better
26:47so then he finally gets up to the top
26:54did they should make these again i guess they're kind of like cruise ships but
27:00and this is so this is the chain of events sale too jeez i can't believe it oh
27:05oh no
27:23all right chat i'm taking early lunch today i got some errands and stuff to run too so um i
27:29i think i'm done with that game
27:45i just i i love the narrative of he opens up the store he's playing through the game it's like
27:51whatever he sees the store he sees because you can tell when he saw the map unlock where's the
27:58map unlock part
28:01chat that are
28:05by in-game money in-game resources this is what really got him currently a map pack
28:11you know see the world okay um that was it man that just got him that was too much
28:22that was it that was it was the last that was the last straw
28:29what do you say guys what do you say oh my fucking god
28:53guys what do you say oh my fucking god