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00:30Welcome once again to Nasriyat, this is our segment on Neki, which is lead by Zahir-e-Khalaab.
00:38Sir, who is here today?
00:39Thank you so much.
00:40Today we have very important representatives of the institution here.
00:45Unfortunately, today we are talking about a specific topic for the first time.
00:51This is a topic on which we need to talk with a lot of tension and force.
00:59And that is about mental health.
01:01Oh, very important.
01:02Yes.
01:03Karwan-e-Hayat is an institution which has been working on mental health from 1983 onwards.
01:12And there are about 22 community outreach camps which are currently working in Karachi.
01:18So, we will talk about Karwan-e-Hayat and mental health challenges.
01:26We also have with us Mr. Faisal Zahid, CEO of Karwan-e-Hayat.
01:31Thank you so much.
01:32Dr. Arusa Talib, Chief Medical Officer and Consultant of Karwan-e-Hayat.
01:36Sir, let's start with you.
01:38If you could tell us about this institution, how many people are directly or indirectly benefiting from Karwan-e-Hayat?
01:49So, thank you very much for inviting me.
01:53Currently, if we look at the numbers, last year we attended about 2.5 lakh patient visits.
02:07And obviously, the families connected to Karwan-e-Hayat are all beneficiaries.
02:13So, if I look at the number of patients and families, it runs into millions.
02:20Directly or indirectly, those who are benefitted.
02:25Apart from this, we also have a hospital.
02:30If you allow me, I will tell you in detail.
02:32Yes, please.
02:33We have a 100-bed hospital in Kemari.
02:37It has a male and female wing.
02:40We also have an OPD, which runs for 6 days a week.
02:47Obviously, exclusively for mental illnesses.
02:51Apart from this, we run an OPD in Korangi.
02:56With the Greek General Hospital.
02:58Since the numbers have been increasing since last year, especially after COVID,
03:07we can't have brick and mortar presence everywhere.
03:11So, we have started camps for mental illnesses.
03:16These started in 2015-16.
03:20Currently, there are 22 locations, in which we run 50 plus camps in a month.
03:27Some are weekly camps, some are fortnightly camps.
03:31These are completely free.
03:35All kinds of consultations, medicines, everything is free.
03:40Obviously, these are mostly in underserved areas.
03:45But the question is,
03:47in the areas you are talking about,
03:50the mental illnesses are not even considered as a disease.
03:55There are attempts to treat them with some agents,
03:58or with some drugs, whatever problem they are facing.
04:02Do these people realize that they are going through a challenge
04:07that they should go to a mental illness camp?
04:11Whenever we start a camp,
04:14there is a survey of the area.
04:17You meet people from the under-reserved areas.
04:21You talk to them in schools, universities, and mosques.
04:25You raise their awareness about this issue.
04:30That this is also a problem that needs to be tackled.
04:33It takes a lot of hard work.
04:35And then the camps start in those areas.
04:38More than 50% of the new patients are coming from these camps.
04:45To this extent, we have raised awareness.
04:48This is phase one.
04:51Now we want to start phase two.
04:55For which we need resources.
04:59We are trying to do that.
05:01We talk about what is needed.
05:06Doctor, let's come to you.
05:08As Sir said, when we are going to those areas,
05:12people are trying to raise awareness.
05:16That these problems and challenges are there.
05:20But at the same time, we get to hear another narrative.
05:24That it has become a fashion.
05:25Everyone says that they are depressed.
05:26Everyone says that they have anxiety.
05:28Everyone talks like this.
05:30It is not that because of a lot of awareness,
05:33People unnecessarily impose these conditions on themselves.
05:36That I have a lot of depression.
05:37Or I am going through a lot of mental pain.
05:40Thank you very much.
05:41It is a very sensitive topic.
05:43And it is close to my heart.
05:44Maybe we spent our whole life with this cause.
05:47And the problem is to understand that people do not have awareness.
05:52And in our country, people do not have education.
05:56People do not have basic health facilities.
05:59Mental health seems to be a very fancy word in this world.
06:02Maybe it is very fancy.
06:03Despite this, if I tell you the stats.
06:06In Pakistan, if we say that people have access to health care.
06:11And that too mental health care.
06:13Then maybe 10-11% people do not have it.
06:16While 60% people need it.
06:19So you think about the gap.
06:21You are saying that the population of this country.
06:2360% people need it somewhere.
06:25Exactly.
06:27If you talk about children especially.
06:2960% children in their childhood.
06:32They suffer from any sort of psychological trauma or disability.
06:37For which they need a professional.
06:40And in our country, there are 3-4 child psychiatrists present.
06:45There is not a single psychiatry institution present.
06:49Which is only working on children's health.
06:51For the whole of Pakistan.
06:53So when the gap is so big.
06:55An institution like Karwania.
06:56Which treats 100 patients.
06:58As in-patient.
07:00And on an average, we have an OPD of 500 patients.
07:03Who come daily.
07:05And right now, we are like a drop in the ocean.
07:09We have a lot of need.
07:11People have a lot of need.
07:13For their mental health.
07:15And to bridge the gap.
07:17Due to lack of resources.
07:19And due to lack of awareness.
07:21And that is why we want to catch such platforms.
07:24And tell people.
07:26That there are professionals present.
07:28And the treatment facilities.
07:30Are free of cost.
07:32In this city.
07:34So what should be done?
07:3660% people can need.
07:38Some consultancy for mental health.
07:40So what are the signs.
07:42Or symptoms.
07:44On which a person.
07:46Should refer.
07:48To a relevant forum.
07:50So the stigma and taboo.
07:52With these mental illnesses.
07:54And the way we treat them.
07:56We have to internalize them.
07:58And think.
08:00That one out of four.
08:02Can have mental symptoms.
08:04We are talking about every household.
08:06Not a single house in Pakistan.
08:08Will be able to survive.
08:10Neither does it change the face.
08:12Nor is there a laboratory test.
08:14To diagnose it.
08:16Nor does it cause injuries.
08:18Nor does it damage the skin.
08:20For example.
08:22First of all.
08:24Our biological functions.
08:26Our sleep, hunger, thirst.
08:28Sleep, waking up.
08:30Number two.
08:32Our responsibilities.
08:34If there is a woman or a man.
08:36Their expected responsibilities.
08:38They are not able to do it.
08:40And number three.
08:42Their socialization.
08:44And their occupational proficiency.
08:46If someone says.
08:48If you don't feel happy.
08:50This itself is a big factor.
08:52If you don't feel happy.
08:54It means.
08:56There is a lack of good chemicals in the brain.
08:58And for happiness.
09:00You don't need a lot of money.
09:02Happiness is with your children.
09:04There is money, family.
09:06And you are not happy.
09:08This is a big indicator.
09:10As a sole indicator.
09:12It shows that you need some help.
09:14It is not necessary.
09:16But many times.
09:18Even though we have everything.
09:20We are not able to be thankful.
09:22Or we are lost in our thoughts.
09:24That we are not able to do those things.
09:26That is why we need.
09:28Mental health.
09:30And mental knowledge.
09:32Sir.
09:34Let's talk about Karwan-e-Hayat.
09:36The scale of operations.
09:38How much funds are needed.
09:40Roughly.
09:42And how are they managed.
09:44Are there people.
09:46Who are supporting Karwan-e-Hayat.
09:48Or is there a need.
09:50For friends to come forward.
09:52And support this organization.
09:54We obviously depend on.
09:56Philanthropic organizations.
09:58Corporates.
10:00Individuals.
10:02Family donors.
10:04Who are supporting us.
10:06Obviously such organizations.
10:08Which are.
10:10Not for profit.
10:12Without such resources.
10:14To operate.
10:16And the way it is expanding.
10:18Our needs are increasing.
10:20Patient visits are increasing.
10:22Needs are increasing.
10:24So obviously.
10:26We should be looking at.
10:28Government support.
10:30In some shape or form.
10:32We would like.
10:34To get some support.
10:36Because such an organization.
10:38Whose legacy.
10:40Is more than 40 years old.
10:42Yes.
10:44For that.
10:46If I compare.
10:48Such an organization.
10:50Which is established recently.
10:52It has a 40 year legacy.
10:54Which gives us credibility.
10:56So in such a situation.
10:58Government support.
11:00Is very important.
11:02To take it forward.
11:04To expand it.
11:06As I told you.
11:08We have identified some areas.
11:10In Karachi.
11:12Where such services.
11:14Are needed.
11:16For that.
11:18We need.
11:20We are reaching out.
11:22Slowly.
11:24Support is coming.
11:26Account details.
11:28Contact details.
11:30If anyone wants to know more.
11:32About Karwane Hayat.
11:34Any questions.
11:36You can ask.
11:38If you want to support.
11:40Such people.
11:42Who are facing mental challenges.
11:44Doctor.
11:46The choice of words.
11:48For such people.
11:50Who are facing mental challenges.
11:52How much precaution is needed.
11:54As you said.
11:56It is a stigma.
11:58As soon as someone.
12:00Confronts a mental patient.
12:02The family will go crazy.
12:04This is bad.
12:06In this.
12:08What precautions are needed.
12:10Which words should be used.
12:12And which words.
12:14Should be avoided.
12:16If someone has blood pressure.
12:18Or diabetes.
12:20We do not call it diabetes.
12:22We label the patient.
12:24As schizophrenic.
12:26Or bipolar.
12:28These attitudes.
12:30Should be felt.
12:32When your loved one.
12:34Faces a problem.
12:36What words should be used.
12:40Lack of education.
12:42Lack of knowledge.
12:44And lack of awareness.
12:46We do not consider it a disease.
12:48My message.
12:50It is a disease.
12:52Like blood pressure.
12:54Or diabetes.
12:56They can live.
12:58A balanced life.
13:00There is severity.
13:02Some are mild.
13:04Some are moderate.
13:06They get well.
13:08For severe patients.
13:10There is a way of life.
13:12We provide rehabilitation services.
13:14We make them active.
13:16After the crisis.
13:18They forgot their learned skills.
13:20Right.
13:22I want to give hope.
13:24That these diseases.
13:26Get well as soon as possible.
13:28It is not necessary.
13:30That a person behaves.
13:32As we see in movies.
13:34That he bumps.
13:36Or falls.
13:38It has a big role.
13:40To paint a wrong picture.
13:42He can be mentally ill.
13:44He can be as composed.
13:46As we are sitting here.
13:48You can not guess.
13:50These are attitudes.
13:52In the workplace.
13:54Few people are affected.
13:56They suffer.
13:58We treated 250,000 patients.
14:00This year.
14:02We will reach 300,000.
14:04These are not 300,000 people.
14:06These are 300,000 families.
14:08Each family unit.
14:10Is made up of 7 to 8 people.
14:12When we treat one person.
14:14It has an impact on 7 lives.
14:16A breadwinner.
14:18If he falls ill.
14:20His family cycle collapses.
14:22Institutions like.
14:24It is a ray of hope.
14:26For those people.
14:28Who are not only being treated.
14:30Right.
14:32Many people are doing.
14:34Malpractice.
14:36Everyone does not need medicine.
14:3850% people get well.
14:40Without medicines.
14:42Through conversation.
14:44We have to give hope.
14:46Normal people.
14:48Through conversation.
14:50It can be needed at every stage of life.
14:52Before marriage.
14:54After marriage.
14:56There is no adjustment.
14:58Children are late.
15:00Problems at home.
15:02People are changing.
15:04Through conversation.
15:06We can help.
15:08We have seen.
15:10Through small talks.
15:12We solve big problems.
15:14Again.
15:16As a society.
15:18Until someone is admitted.
15:20He has no challenge.
15:22Sorry.
15:24It is a mental hospital.
15:26Before that.
15:28Everything is normal.
15:30There is no challenge.
15:32There is a class.
15:34Elite.
15:36They have discussions.
15:38Psychologists.
15:40Psychiatrists.
15:42They spend money.
15:44But.
15:46This class.
15:48People who have no food.
15:50No ration.
15:52No house rent.
15:54To realize.
15:56We have a mental problem.
15:58Again.
16:00To realize.
16:02To find time.
16:04It is a big challenge.
16:06People who have no food.
16:08They consider.
16:10Absolutely.
16:12It is like this.
16:14Patient numbers.
16:16More than 90%.
16:18The same class.
16:20The awareness.
16:22We have created.
16:24If you visit.
16:26Our hospital.
16:28You will see.
16:30You will see.
16:32The same patients.
16:34Our camps.
16:36You see the same patients.
16:38It is not.
16:40To create awareness.
16:42Alhamdulillah.
16:46The class you mentioned.
16:48There too.
16:50If I talk to you.
16:52If you.
16:54Go to corporates.
16:56Everywhere.
16:58Mental health.
17:00First aid.
17:02We go to schools.
17:04To create awareness.
17:06Universities.
17:08Companies.
17:10On wellness.
17:12Work life balance.
17:14Absolutely.
17:16A mentally stable employee.
17:18Is the most productive employee.
17:20If you look at research.
17:22Research says.
17:24This type of matter.
17:26Its cost.
17:28Is.
17:30I have a Harvard.
17:32Business review study.
17:34In the US.
17:361.3 billion dollars.
17:38Its cost.
17:40Research.
17:42300 billion.
17:44Is the cost.
17:46You come to the institution.
17:48Employees.
17:50If you are not mentally stable.
17:52Your productivity.
17:54Will not be.
17:56Thank you so much.
17:58For you.
18:00Chef Ayesha.
18:02He has studied industrial psychology.
18:04I asked him.
18:06Work behavior.
18:08I praised him.
18:12The challenge is big.
18:14Need.
18:16Awareness.
18:18In the society.
18:20In the deprived.
18:22Work life.
18:24Lighting the lamp.
18:26I request you.
18:28Light the lamp.
18:30Insha Allah.
19:06This should be a contribution.
19:08We take a break.
19:10We will be back after the break.