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- Senator Afnan Ullah PMLN
- Dr Qamar Cheema (Defence Analyst)
"Ali Amin Nay Tajweez Di Kay Afghanistan Say Bat Karnay Den", Umair Niazi
What is difference between Parliamentary Committee on National Security and All Parties Conference?
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- Ashfaq ishaq Satti
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- Barrister Umair Khan Niazi PTI
- Senator Afnan Ullah PMLN
- Dr Qamar Cheema (Defence Analyst)
"Ali Amin Nay Tajweez Di Kay Afghanistan Say Bat Karnay Den", Umair Niazi
What is difference between Parliamentary Committee on National Security and All Parties Conference?
"Qurbani Denay Walun Kay Sath Kharay Honay Ki Zarort Hai...", Afnanullah Khan
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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum dear viewers, I am Ashfaq Ishaq Satti and I hope you all are doing well.
00:18You can see that a lot of thought is being put into the issue of national security.
00:22I was very scared when I came to know that so many people have become hostages.
00:29I was very scared when I came to know that so many people have become hostages.
00:34I was very scared when I came to know that so many people have become hostages.
00:37I was very scared when I came to know that so many people have become hostages.
00:42But after that, the way our SSG group acted, the way our commandos acted,
00:50the heroism that you get to see in movies, you got to see it in real life.
00:55And without harming any hostage, the suicide bombers were neutralized.
01:00And after that, the attack was failed.
01:02And after that, the attack was failed.
01:09And after that, it was decided that the whole nation will be united on this issue.
01:14And after that, it was decided that the whole nation will be united on this issue.
01:20And after that, it was decided that the whole nation will be united on this issue.
01:25And after that, it was decided that the whole nation will be united on this issue.
01:30And after that, it was decided that the whole nation will be united on this issue.
01:35The government is serious about this issue.
01:38Our military leadership is also serious about this issue.
01:40And the increasing incidents of terrorism are to be stopped.
01:44And especially, the insurgency that is on the rise in Balochistan.
01:49There is a lot of work to be done on this issue.
01:51DG ISPR had a discussion on this issue.
01:54What point of view did he give?
01:56He shared some points with you.
01:58The whole nation has to fight against terrorism.
02:01After 2014, there was a consensus through the National Action Plan.
02:05All political parties and stakeholders sat together.
02:08And the previous government reviewed and revised the National Action Plan.
02:11It has 14 points.
02:13All stakeholders are of the opinion that if these 14 points are implemented, terrorism will be eradicated.
02:19So, these are the 14 points.
02:21There is a kinetic in it.
02:23And there are a lot of issues that need to be discussed.
02:27There is a deadline for the rehabilitation of Afghan nationals.
02:33There is a delay.
02:35There are a lot of other measures that need to be taken.
02:38And yesterday, the National Security Committee's in-camera meeting was called for.
02:45Members of the Parliament will be present.
02:49And there is good news that there is a consent from the Justice Movement.
02:54The name has also been sent.
02:56So, let's talk about this.
02:58Let's introduce our guest.
03:00Mr. Qamar Seema is joining us on the video link.
03:03He is a security expert.
03:04Thank you very much for your time.
03:06Along with him, Mr. Afnanullah, the representative of the Noon League, will be with us.
03:09And Mr. Umair Niazi, the barrister, will be with us on behalf of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf.
03:14Thank you very much.
03:15So, Mr. Qamar, starting from you.
03:17Earlier, we were hearing that there will be an all-party conference.
03:24Now, there is an in-camera meeting of the National Security Committee.
03:30What is the difference between the two, if we look at it?
03:33Look, the obvious thing is that the meeting of the National Security Committee has a constitutional cover.
03:39The obvious thing is that both your civil and military leadership sit on it.
03:44And in that, both the civil and military leadership create consensus.
03:49There will be a chairman, joint chief, services chief, intelligence chief.
03:54Along with that, there are people from the cabinet who are called, for whom it is important.
03:59There will be a defense minister, information minister, interior minister, etc.
04:03One is this.
04:04The obvious thing is that the meeting of the political parties will be a different thing.
04:08In that, all the political parties have to sit together.
04:12But because this is the committee of tomorrow, it has a special initiative.
04:17Because in this, the opposition has also been invited.
04:19So, basically, the people of intelligence, the people of the community, will give a briefing,
04:25will give a presentation to all the people of the political parties.
04:28And this in-camera briefing means that these things cannot be shared.
04:32And they will tell why the situation in Balochistan is getting worse there.
04:37Why the situation in KP has deteriorated.
04:40External factors and internal factors will be told.
04:43So, basically, all the political parties are being brought on board.
04:46So, I think that along with this, they should also call a political party meeting.
04:52In which, those parties who are not even present in the parliament, should also be invited.
04:58They should also be invited.
05:00Because there will be many such groups in Balochistan, in Sabar Pakhtunkhwa,
05:05in other provinces, there will be such people who do not have representation in the parliament.
05:09So, this is a national issue and there should be a united response in this.
05:13So, I think that in tomorrow's meeting, there should also be a meeting of political parties.
05:18With which, national speeches should be increased.
05:20And there should be a debate on a national level.
05:22I don't think, Mr. Keshav, that there is a bigger topic than this in Pakistan right now.
05:26That in your country, in the last 48 hours, there have been 50-60 attacks.
05:31In different places, on different levels.
05:33I think that this is a very big national security threat.
05:36And the media should also be requested in this.
05:39That the political talk shows that we have, they are important, they should be there.
05:43They should continue to be there.
05:45But at this time, it is very important to talk to the armed forces, law enforcement agencies and those martyrs.
05:51Those who have been martyred, those who have lost their lives,
05:55they should be told that the nation is with you.
05:58It is all connected.
06:01If there is no safety and security in the country,
06:05there will be no peace, there will be a constant threat.
06:08So, there can be no trade, no business, no investment, and no politics.
06:15All these things are a request for peace.
06:19Absolutely.
06:20And I think that this is the opportunity that all the nations,
06:24as we call it the whole of the nation approach,
06:26those people who are sitting outside of us,
06:29we have to admit that we are a politically polarized society.
06:34We have a lot of polarization within us.
06:36But if terrorists are taking advantage of this,
06:39taking advantage of this polarization,
06:41then when this message will go to them that we are from any province,
06:44we are from any religion,
06:46wherever we are sitting, whether in Pakistan or out of the country,
06:49when terrorists come, we are all together.
06:52We have given the lives of 70,000-80,000 people in the last few years.
06:56And we have made this region peaceful.
06:58We have made Pakistan peaceful a few years ago.
07:01You know, from 2015 to 2020, nothing was happening in this country.
07:04Alhamdulillah.
07:05The things that have started to deteriorate again,
07:08we should find a reason for it.
07:09We should take action on behalf of Afghanistan.
07:11We should take action on behalf of India.
07:14And the political class of Pakistan should talk about these security matters.
07:19Look, if we say to the army, police, law enforcement,
07:24that we have outsourced these issues to you,
07:26whether you say it or not, we don't care.
07:29I don't think the army can fight alone.
07:31They need support.
07:32Of course, they need full support.
07:34I got your point.
07:35We will come back to what should be done with Afghanistan and India
07:38and how to expose their involvement.
07:41Mr. Abdan, tell me,
07:43this is undoubtedly a very good step that all parties,
07:46instead of a conference,
07:47the Parliamentary Committee for National Security is being inaugurated.
07:50Wouldn't it be better if all parties had a conference
07:53and our military leadership could go there and talk?
07:57So, was this the Prime Minister's decision
07:59to do this first and then think further?
08:02In the name of Allah, the most merciful.
08:04Look, the National Security Committee
08:07is a committee that exists in the Parliament
08:10where the representation of all the parties is present.
08:13Your representation is based on your share.
08:16So, in a way,
08:19this is what the All Parties Conference looks like.
08:23But this is a bit of a formalized process.
08:26In this, whatever happens,
08:28the proceedings and everything will be minute.
08:31So, this was a better mechanism.
08:34But of course, all the major players, stakeholders,
08:37power brokers,
08:39they will all be on board and move forward
08:41because this is a very serious issue.
08:42Because this is a Balochistan issue,
08:43there will be many people who will not be a part of the Parliament.
08:46Yes, of course, they will be there.
08:48It is very important to get their input.
08:50And as far as Kamar Bhai has said,
08:52it is very important to say that
08:54the people who are being martyred,
08:56the people who are making sacrifices,
08:58we should acknowledge them,
08:59we should support them.
09:01Now, what happened in the past has happened,
09:04but right now,
09:06there is a need to acknowledge their sacrifices,
09:08there is a need to encourage them.
09:10And we, as Pakistanis, should move forward.
09:12We should not fall into hypocrisy.
09:14This country was broken because of hypocrisy.
09:16And again, your enemy is setting fire to your hypocrisy.
09:19And Allah says in the Quran that
09:21I have divided you into nations and tribes
09:24so that you can recognize each other.
09:27No Punjabi is better than a Pathan,
09:29and no Pathan is better than a Sindhi,
09:31and no Sindhi is better than a Baloch,
09:33except that whose practice is the best,
09:35whose righteousness is the best.
09:37See, our Baloch are our brothers,
09:40we love them as much as we love other nations.
09:45And this whole impression that is being given,
09:48with a proper funding and agenda,
09:52they are trying to put holes in Pakistan.
09:56There are a lot of problems.
09:58See, there are a lot of problems in this country.
10:00There is no milk and honey flowing in Islamabad and Karachi.
10:04But these problems start to reflect in an insurgency,
10:08which is not a good thing.
10:10And to kill people so mercilessly,
10:12to slaughter them, what kind of traditions are these?
10:15And then, with every passing day,
10:17this process keeps on increasing.
10:19And secondly, you get to know about the tradition
10:21only when you are in a difficult time.
10:23In an easy time, there is no tradition or religion.
10:25Now, there are people like this,
10:27who only do racial profiling to kill people.
10:31They have checked their ID cards.
10:33If they die, how will they face Allah?
10:35They have done this.
10:37This is not Jihad.
10:39I am standing with their legitimate rights,
10:42the issue of missing persons.
10:44But when you do such things,
10:46you ruin the issue of missing persons as well.
10:48Because then people's focus goes elsewhere.
10:50Mr. Afghan, I have come across a lot of cases
10:53where people who were declared missing,
10:55were later found to be being used on the PLA side.
10:58This is what I am saying.
11:00Basically, what did you do?
11:02You took a play card and put a picture on it.
11:04Later, you are getting a picture
11:06that he was on the PLA side.
11:08Now, who will take you seriously?
11:10In the future, when you will be 36 years old,
11:12people will say that you were a terrorist.
11:14Because when you will meet terrorists again and again,
11:16you will meet them again and again
11:18and you will not even condemn them.
11:20Then people will say that you are a terrorist.
11:22You are killing people with these people.
11:24You are killing people by taking them off the buses.
11:26You are killing them by checking their ID cards.
11:28You have made them a hostage.
11:30This is not a guerrilla war.
11:32This is not a guerrilla war.
11:34In a guerrilla war, you shoot women and children.
11:36You are killing someone's father.
11:38You are killing someone's brother.
11:40This is not a guerrilla war.
11:42Mr. Barrister, finally,
11:44because a lot of Tehreek-e-Insaf
11:46were victims of Makhmasi,
11:48but finally, the names have been given.
11:5014 names have been sent.
11:52Aren't you going tomorrow?
11:54In our meeting today,
11:566 names had to go from the National Assembly
11:58and 2 names had to go from the Senate.
12:00We are giving them a priority
12:02to represent the people
12:04who are facing problems internally.
12:06So that we can have a proper representation.
12:08So that we can have a proper representation.
12:10This operation is ongoing.
12:12This operation is ongoing.
12:14We say that the operation is not going on.
12:16Let's go and have a security briefing.
12:18Where, in Balochistan?
12:20Already in Balochistan.
12:22In YBOs and the other military operation?
12:24No. It is going on.
12:26we will get the meaning, we will get to know the extent, where are the rest of the things going,
12:30so it will be easy to make a holistic approach.
12:33See, operation is a limited side,
12:35operation will be done, you will demolish their camps,
12:38you will drive those people away.
12:39What's next then?
12:40Yes, at that time their role will come, your parliamentarians.
12:44See, the deprivation that is going to be removed,
12:46it is not going to be removed just by operation.
12:48Brother, I talked about Balochistan,
12:50I talked about their traditions.
12:52See, BLA is a separate topic,
12:54BLA is a terrorist organisation,
12:56but the deprivation of Balochistan is a reality.
12:59We cannot cover up their mistakes or their atrocities.
13:04If we want to bring Balochistan
13:06from a marginalised province to our level,
13:09then we will have to take some extra steps.
13:11If Imran Khan had announced a package in his time,
13:14for this very South Balochistan,
13:16not for the whole of Balochistan,
13:17but for these 9 districts, of 600 billion,
13:19in October 2021,
13:21it did not continue.
13:23If 13 dams were built there,
13:25if a road network was built there,
13:26then there would have been a lot of facilitation.
13:28These marginalised people would have come to the national level.
13:30So, in this, the military operation was in its place,
13:34but the political leadership there
13:36should have connected with the people and played a role.
13:39And how will it connect?
13:41See, you are just putting up objections,
13:43calling it a brush-aside.
13:44No, they are just putting up objections.
13:46See, if Ali Amin participated in the last Apex,
13:49he sent his proposal to the TORs,
13:52who have not yet become a part of Minutes.
13:54But he said,
13:55we are sending a delegation of tribal elders to Afghanistan.
13:58Although they were not able to do it.
14:00No, we have sent it to your federal government,
14:02that we are ready to send it,
14:03you should engage us,
14:04you should empower us,
14:05we have experience,
14:07we will also send religious scholars,
14:09we will also send political people,
14:10and we have cultural ties,
14:12the language is the same.
14:14That is, within the province,
14:15whatever is happening,
14:16they are not sorting it,
14:17but they will send it there.
14:19Yesterday, a tank operation took place.
14:21Yesterday, a tank,
14:22your police,
14:23more than 500 terrorists,
14:25went to the mountains,
14:26and destroyed them.
14:28What is the matter?
14:29See, it is about empowering.
14:30Now, see, where there is a need for a helicopter,
14:32the police do not have it.
14:34Who is going to provide it logistically?
14:36This handicap,
14:37the federal government has to remove it.
14:39See, if you just say,
14:40the province is not delivering,
14:42then tomorrow,
14:43the stage on which Balochistan is standing,
14:44two months later,
14:45your KPK will also be standing on the same stage.
14:47First, you have to take a proactive step.
14:49And in these proactive steps,
14:51the provincial government,
14:52if it is to the extent of KPK,
14:54is more than ready to cooperate.
14:56We will come to this.
14:58Did you want to add anything?
14:59I just want to say,
15:00I just want to add one thing.
15:02See, if Ali Amin Gandapur
15:03has any suggestions,
15:05they are given privately,
15:06they are not given to the world
15:07in place of the media.
15:08This is one thing.
15:09The second thing is that
15:10foreign affairs
15:12are a federal subject.
15:14You cannot say that
15:16And then you tell me,
15:18the people who brought back
15:19these 40,000 Taliban people,
15:21including their weapons,
15:22they are saying that
15:23we will solve the problems further.
15:25Because of you,
15:26all the problems have arisen.
15:28And then,
15:29let's say,
15:30I agree with Mr. Niazi,
15:31that they have a solution
15:33to this problem.
15:34So, see,
15:35they will come with a solution,
15:36privately,
15:37or come to a committee meeting
15:38and say,
15:39see, if we do these four things,
15:41then the Taliban will solve
15:42their problems with us.
15:44See, I also want
15:45that there is no fight there.
15:46No one wants that
15:47there is a fight with Afghanistan
15:48in this country.
15:49But it is not possible
15:50that people come from there
15:51and attack,
15:52in cantons,
15:53in schools,
15:54keep attacking here and there
15:55and then there is no reaction
15:56from here.
15:57This cannot happen.
15:58It is better that Afghanistan
15:59orders its own house
16:00and has good relations with us.
16:01Okay.
16:02And because of this change,
16:03this change,
16:04there is no end to it.
16:05There is no end to it.
16:07Okay.
16:08Mr. Qamar,
16:09tell us,
16:10as Mr. Omar Barista
16:11was talking just now,
16:13that there is already
16:14an operation going on there.
16:16So, I said that there are
16:17IBOs going on there,
16:18not a military operation.
16:20So, there is a difference.
16:21There is a lot of difference.
16:22There is a term that
16:23there is an operation
16:24going on there for 20 years,
16:25a military operation,
16:26but there is no difference.
16:27But in reality,
16:28there is a lot of difference
16:29between an intelligence-based
16:30operation and a military
16:31operation.
16:32Kindly,
16:33give us some clarity
16:34in this.
16:35See,
16:36obviously,
16:37intelligence-based operation
16:38is that from there,
16:39in which you
16:40inform your
16:41intelligence
16:42gathering
16:43on ground
16:44resources
16:45and your
16:46contacts,
16:47where the terrorists
16:48are hiding,
16:49where their hideouts
16:50are,
16:51you pinpoint
16:52that place
16:53and then
16:54hit that place
16:55and cordon off
16:56that place
16:57and there
16:58sanitize
16:59and clear
17:00and finish it.
17:01Then,
17:02next,
17:03when you find out
17:04that your
17:05intelligence
17:06tells you,
17:07you go there
17:08and do the operation.
17:09That is
17:10intelligence-based
17:11operation.
17:12So,
17:13you go there
17:14and target
17:15that place
17:16and hit it.
17:17And then,
17:18the operation
17:19is that,
17:20like we saw,
17:21that Zarb-e-Azab
17:22was going on
17:23or something
17:24like that
17:25was going on
17:26where
17:27internally
17:28displaced
17:29people
17:30have to be
17:31evacuated
17:32and the operation
17:33has to be
17:34done there.
17:35So,
17:36the entire population
17:37is affected.
17:38So,
17:39the difference
17:40is that
17:41the general
17:42public
17:43thinks
17:44that the
17:45operation
17:46is done.
17:47But,
17:48technically,
17:49there is a
17:50difference.
17:51So,
17:52I think
17:53there is no
17:54operation
17:55in Balochistan
17:56where
17:57intelligence
17:58tells you
17:59that people
18:00are present
18:01here.
18:02Because,
18:03we have
18:04Chinese
18:05investment
18:06in Balochistan.
18:07We want to
18:08show the
18:09importance
18:10of the
18:11operation
18:12in Balochistan.
18:13We want
18:14to show
18:15the importance
18:16of the
18:17operation
18:18in Balochistan.
18:19We want
18:20to show
18:21the importance
18:22of the
18:23operation
18:24in Balochistan.
18:25We want
18:26to show
18:27the importance
18:28of the
18:29operation
18:30in Balochistan.
18:31We want
18:32to show
18:33the importance
18:34of the
18:35operation
18:36in Balochistan.
18:37We want
18:38to show
18:39the importance
18:40of the
18:41operation
18:42in Balochistan.
18:43We want
18:44to show
18:45the importance
18:46of the
18:47operation
18:48in Balochistan.
18:49We want
18:50to show
18:51the importance
18:52of the
18:53operation
18:54in Balochistan.
18:55We want
18:56to show
18:57the importance
18:58of the
18:59operation
19:00in Balochistan.
19:01We want
19:02to show
19:03the importance
19:04of the
19:05operation
19:06in Balochistan.
19:07We want
19:08to show
19:09the importance
19:10of the
19:11operation
19:12in Balochistan.
19:13We want
19:14to show
19:15the importance
19:16of the
19:17operation
19:18in Balochistan.
19:19We want
19:20to show
19:21the importance
19:22of the
19:23operation
19:24in Balochistan.
19:25We want
19:26to show
19:27the importance
19:28of the
19:29operation
19:30in Balochistan.
19:31We want
19:32to show
19:33the importance
19:34of the
19:35operation
19:36in
19:37Balochistan.
19:38We want
19:39to show
19:40the importance
19:41of the
19:42operation
19:43in
19:44Balochistan.
19:45We want
19:46to show
19:47the importance
19:48of the
19:49operation
19:50in
19:51Balochistan.
19:52We want
19:53to show
19:54the importance
19:55of the
19:56operation
19:57in
19:58Balochistan.
19:59We want
20:00to show
20:01the importance
20:02of the
20:03operation
20:04in
20:05Balochistan.
20:06We want
20:07to show
20:08the importance
20:09of the
20:10operation
20:11in
20:12Balochistan.
20:13We want
20:14to show
20:15the importance
20:16of the
20:17operation
20:18in
20:19Balochistan.
20:20We want
20:21to show
20:22the importance
20:23of the
20:24operation
20:25in
20:26Balochistan.
20:27We want
20:28to show
20:29the importance
20:30of the
20:31operation
20:32in
20:33Balochistan.
20:34We want
20:35to show
20:36the importance
20:37of the
20:38operation
20:39in
20:40Balochistan.
20:41We want
20:42to show
20:43the importance
20:44of the
20:45operation
20:46in
20:47Balochistan.
20:48We want
20:49to show
20:50the importance
20:51of the
20:52operation
20:53in
20:54Balochistan.
20:55We want
20:56to show
20:57the importance
20:58of the
20:59operation
21:00in
21:01Balochistan.
21:02We want
21:03to show
21:04the importance
21:05of the
21:06operation
21:07in
21:08Balochistan.
21:09We want
21:10to show
21:11the importance
21:12of the
21:13operation
21:14in
21:15Balochistan.
21:16We want
21:17to show
21:18the importance
21:19of the
21:20operation
21:21in
21:22Balochistan.
21:23We want
21:24to show
21:25the importance
21:26of the
21:27operation
21:28in
21:29Balochistan.
21:30We want
21:31to show
21:32the
21:33importance
21:34of the
21:35operation
21:36in
21:37Balochistan.
21:38We want
21:39to show
21:40the importance
21:41of the
21:42operation
21:43in
21:44Balochistan.
21:45We want
21:46to show
21:47the importance
21:48of the
21:49operation
21:50in
21:51Balochistan.
21:52We want
21:53to show
21:54the importance
21:55of the
21:56operation
21:57in
21:58Balochistan.
21:59We want
22:00to show
22:01the
22:02importance
22:03of the
22:04operation
22:05in
22:06Balochistan.
22:07We want
22:08to show
22:09the
22:10importance
22:11of the
22:12operation
22:13in
22:14Balochistan.
22:15We want
22:16to show
22:17the
22:18importance
22:19of the
22:20operation
22:21in
22:22Balochistan.
22:23We want
22:24to show
22:25the
22:26importance
22:27of the
22:28operation
22:29in
22:30Balochistan.
22:31We
22:32want
22:33to show
22:34the
22:35importance
22:36of the
22:37operation
22:38in
22:39Balochistan.
22:40We
22:41want
22:42to show
22:43the
22:44importance
22:45of the
22:46operation
22:47in
22:48Balochistan.
22:49We
22:50want
22:51to show
22:52the
22:53importance
22:54of the
22:55operation
22:56in
22:57Balochistan.
22:58We
22:59want
23:00to show
23:01the
23:02importance
23:03of the
23:04operation
23:05in
23:06Balochistan.
23:07We
23:08want
23:09to show
23:10the
23:11importance
23:12of the
23:13operation
23:14in
23:15Balochistan.
23:16We
23:17want
23:18to show
23:19the
23:20importance
23:21of the
23:22operation
23:23in
23:24Balochistan.
23:25We
23:26want
23:27to show
23:28the
23:29importance
23:30of the
23:31operation
23:32in
23:33Balochistan.
23:34We
23:35want
23:36to show
23:37the
23:38importance
23:39of the
23:40operation
23:41in
23:42Balochistan.
23:43We
23:44want
23:45to show
23:46the
23:47importance
23:48of the
23:49operation
23:50in
23:51Balochistan.
23:52We
23:53want
23:54to show
23:55the
23:56importance
23:57of the
23:58operation
23:59in
24:00Balochistan.
24:01We
24:02want
24:03to show
24:04the
24:05importance
24:06of the
24:07operation
24:08in
24:09Balochistan.
24:10We
24:11want
24:12to show
24:13the
24:14importance
24:15of the
24:16operation
24:17in
24:18Balochistan.
24:19We
24:20want
24:21to show
24:22the
24:23importance
24:24of the
24:25operation
24:26in
24:27Balochistan.
24:28We
24:29want
24:30to show
24:31the
24:32importance
24:33of the
24:34operation
24:35in
24:36Balochistan.
24:37We
24:38want
24:39to show
24:40the
24:41importance
24:42of the
24:43operation
24:44in
24:45Balochistan.
24:46We
24:47want
24:48to show
24:49the
24:50importance
24:51of the
24:52operation
24:53in
24:54Balochistan.
24:56We
24:57want
24:58to show
24:59the
25:00importance
25:01of the
25:02operation
25:03in
25:04Balochistan.
25:05We
25:06want
25:07to show
25:08the
25:09importance
25:10of the
25:11operation
25:12in
25:13Balochistan.
25:14We
25:15want
25:16to show
25:17the
25:18importance
25:19of the
25:20operation
25:21in
25:22Balochistan.
25:23We
25:24want
25:25to show
25:26the
25:27importance
25:28of the
25:29operation
25:30in
25:31Balochistan.
25:55We
25:56want
25:57to show
25:58the
25:59importance
26:00of the
26:01operation
26:02in
26:03Balochistan.
26:04We
26:05want
26:06to show
26:07the
26:08importance
26:09of the
26:10operation
26:11in
26:12Balochistan.
26:13We
26:14want
26:15to show
26:16the
26:17importance
26:18of the
26:19operation
26:20in
26:21Balochistan.
26:22We
26:23want
26:24to show
26:25the
26:26importance
26:27of the
26:28operation
26:29in
26:30Balochistan.
26:31We
26:32want to
26:33show
26:34the
26:35importance
26:36of the
26:37operation
26:38in
26:39Balochistan.
26:40We
26:41want to
26:42show
26:43the
26:44importance
26:45of the
26:46operation
26:47in
26:48Balochistan.
26:49We
26:50want to
26:51show
26:52the
26:53importance
26:54of the
26:55operation
26:56in
26:57Balochistan.
26:58We
26:59want to
27:00show
27:01the
27:02importance
27:03of the
27:04operation
27:05in
27:06Balochistan.
27:07We
27:08want to
27:09show
27:10the
27:11importance
27:12of the
27:13operation
27:14in
27:15Baldoch.
27:16Also,
27:18we
27:19want to
27:20especially
27:21The ISIS people are sitting there, and they have humiliated the Muslims there as well.
27:26Doval, who is a rock star, has made a plan to destroy Pakistan.
27:35This is a different level.
27:39If we talk about the diplomatic level, the Indian lobby is working there.
27:48They try to defame Pakistan in every possible way.
27:53When we have the evidence, we have all the things.
27:58This is a game of might is right.
28:02It's a game of money.
28:04It's a game of money.
28:06India has created a problem in Canada.
28:11And they had to send a rock agent to expedite it.
28:16It's a game of might is right.
28:18It's not a game of diplomacy.
28:19They said, get straight, or we'll do this to you.
28:21So, they got straight.
28:22Now, as long as we want to run this game of love and affection, let's do it.
28:26But if the other party doesn't understand, then you'll have to explain it to them in some other way.
28:31Either they understand it with love or diplomacy.
28:33If they don't understand, then you tell me.
28:35They have invoked all the proxies in Pakistan.
28:39Their media is openly propagating them.
28:41Their National Security Advisor is openly speaking against you.
28:44Muslims are being harassed there.
28:46Now, what will you say to them?
28:48You'll say, no, no, I think our stance has changed.
28:50I was surprised.
28:51On the occasion of Holi, there was a police officer in Tehwar.
28:54He said, the one who comes on Friday 52 times a year,
28:59and the one who doesn't want to leave, should pray at home.
29:02There was a need to come out.
29:03And he was supported by the political leaders there.
29:06He killed a man.
29:07He killed a man.
29:08He was going to pray.
29:10So, people like this have come and sat in the government,
29:12in their establishment,
29:14and they are saying that they will divide Pakistan into four parts.
29:17And they are working on it.
29:18So, what are we doing?
29:20We need unity.
29:21Tell me one thing, Dr. Qamar Seema,
29:24this issue of refugees,
29:27or the people who are present here,
29:29we have given a deadline to send them.
29:31So, how important is it that this happens?
29:34Because the Chief Executive of KP,
29:37the Chief Minister,
29:39he is saying that they should be given the citizenship of Pakistan,
29:42instead of being sent there.
29:44Now, they have their own country,
29:46but still, this statement of the Prime Minister,
29:48on what basis would this have been given to them?
29:50And does this thing suit Pakistan?
29:53Or does it favour Pakistan, if we do this?
29:55Look, you know that in Balochistan,
29:59our Pakhtoon Family, the people's party,
30:02they also talk about such things.
30:05This is a vote-winning clause.
30:09This is a vote-winning clause.
30:11That people will be happy,
30:13that we are talking about our ethnicity.
30:15I think this is purely a national security issue.
30:18The people whom the government is telling to remove,
30:21they are saying to those who don't have documents,
30:24who are illegal.
30:25The government is not saying to anyone
30:27who has a passport or visa,
30:29or is staying here legally.
30:31So, the illegal people,
30:32and then you also see that they have contacts,
30:35they facilitate terrorists, thieves,
30:38those who steal in Pakistan,
30:40in Islamabad and other areas,
30:42these people run back and hide in Afghanistan.
30:45And if you go and ask the police,
30:47they will tell you.
30:48So, the illegal people should be removed,
30:50but if it is understood that
30:52by saying such things,
30:54our other people will be happy,
30:57or we will play our ethnic card,
30:59I don't think it will make a difference.
31:01Look at this purely for national security reasons.
31:04And let me tell you something interesting,
31:06this is not something that can be done with words,
31:08nor can it be done with silence.
31:09You have to speak and do it.
31:11You will have to tell Afghanistan clearly,
31:14you will have to give a message,
31:15and do whatever you can.
31:16If you see,
31:17tell me something,
31:18the border has been closed from India for 77 years,
31:20or is it open?
31:21So, if we close it here,
31:22what will happen?
31:23The country which has an economy of 4 trillion dollars,
31:27you have closed the border from there.
31:29From where drugs are coming to the collection,
31:31terror attacks are coming daily,
31:33the borders are open.
31:34Doctor, correct me if I am wrong,
31:37when this NATO was in power,
31:39and the American army was also there,
31:41at that time,
31:42there were 100 or 200 checkposts on the border of Afghanistan,
31:46and there were 1100 checkposts from our side.
31:48So, all the seriousness comes from here,
31:51that who is committed.
31:52Look,
31:53look,
31:54it suits them well,
31:55that the borders are open for our people,
31:57because there is no employment there,
31:59we will go,
32:00and do everything.
32:01And we also take advantage of this illegal spectrum,
32:03our people take advantage of it,
32:05from there,
32:06terrorist groups also take advantage of this illegal spectrum,
32:08there are non-custom made cars,
32:10there is oil,
32:11there is a lot.
32:12So, I think,
32:13this is the whole economy,
32:14see,
32:15but we have also,
32:16terrorists are also earning money from it,
32:18ordinary people are also earning money from it,
32:20they are doing business from there,
32:21everything is going on,
32:22everything is going on,
32:23so,
32:24this,
32:25if you,
32:26the government,
32:27the military is talking,
32:28there is a military domain,
32:29kinetic,
32:30they are doing their job,
32:31the government should also play its role.
32:32These are the pressing issues,
32:33which should be discussed in the parliament,
32:34Mr. Ashfaq.
32:35This is what is actually affecting.
32:37Rest,
32:38all the time,
32:39we are stuck on one topic,
32:40political parties,
32:41I don't want to take anyone's name,
32:42one says,
32:43our leader was in jail,
32:44the other says,
32:45he was in jail,
32:46this happened to us.
32:47Brother,
32:48these are the national security reasons,
32:49this is the issue,
32:50which is being faced.
32:51Brother,
32:52talk about this,
32:53discuss it in the parliament,
32:54discuss it in the media,
32:55so that the society gets to know,
32:56what is wrong with us,
32:57and how can we improve it.
32:58Mr. Abdan,
32:59this statement,
33:00by Ali Amin Ghandapur,
33:01do you think,
33:02was that a right decision,
33:03or was it an attempt to win the voters,
33:04or what was the purpose of this,
33:05that they are saying,
33:06that they should be settled,
33:07and we were not taken in confidence,
33:08this policy is wrong.
33:09See,
33:10one,
33:11my brother,
33:12Mr. Niazi,
33:13said that,
33:14this was the decision of
33:15Mr. Shabaz Sharif's government,
33:16this was the policy,
33:17this was the policy,
33:18this was the policy,
33:19and this was the policy,
33:20and this was the policy,
33:21and this was the policy,
33:22that was the decision of,
33:23Mr. Shabaz Sharif's government,
33:24this is not right,
33:25I will tell you on the record,
33:26this was the decision of,
33:27Mr. Imran Khan's cabinet,
33:28he came to the parliament,
33:29and briefed,
33:30and his decision was not,
33:31the decision of the parliament,
33:32and he took the decision,
33:33from the cabinet,
33:34and then this happened.
33:35And all of this is on the record.
33:36This has been recorded for minutes.
33:37I am not asking you,
33:38the cabinet minutes,
33:39June,
33:40cabinet minutes are there.
33:41Imran Khan's videos are there,
33:42in which he has said,
33:43that we should not bring him back,
33:44so what can we do,
33:45we will bring him back.
33:46We will bring them back.
33:48If you don't believe that video, I will show it to you.
33:50You took the minutes of June 2023 National Security Committee.
33:54No, no, no, you had already worked till then.
33:56This is what I am talking about.
33:58This is what I am talking about.
34:00End of 2022.
34:02When you did this work.
34:04We went in April.
34:06Sorry, end of 2021.
34:08Okay.
34:10If you go and see that month.
34:12Imran Khan's video is also there.
34:14Imran Khan's video is also there.
34:16And there is also approval of this constitution.
34:18Come to Gandapur sir.
34:20Look, Gandapur sir.
34:22I think.
34:24He is not so concerned.
34:26There is a problem of electricity in KPK.
34:28Problems of employment.
34:30Security problems.
34:32The biggest problem of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa government is.
34:34What to do with Awan Mahajirin.
34:36I think from their talks.
34:38The thing is that people in your province do not have money to eat.
34:40After 13 years of government.
34:42And you are in this matter.
34:44You go and talk to all the Mahajirin there.
34:46Because of whom you have just heard.
34:48How many problems are being created.
34:50Those who are legally in Pakistan.
34:52They should stay at all.
34:54It is being said with your knowledge.
34:56That Rs. 600 billion was given.
34:58After war and terror.
35:00Now these people are saying.
35:02Barrister Saif's statement came.
35:04That we are not even getting money.
35:06I don't know how much money we have stopped.
35:08If they have less money.
35:10They are very rich people.
35:12They have a lot of money.
35:14You know what they say.
35:16They have a lot of money to run the affairs of the province.
35:18They are very rich people.
35:20They have come to the position of lending to the province.
35:2210% of Rs. 1754 billion.
35:24You see how much it is.
35:26I don't want to listen to me.
35:28Timargara.
35:30Timargara.
35:32DHQ hospital.
35:34There is a journalist named Khattak.
35:36He said.
35:38When the audit was done.
35:40Rs. 60 lakhs were collected.
35:42And Rs. 13.4 crores were lost.
35:44Earlier we used to think.
35:46That Mr. 5 or Mr. 10%.
35:48Now it is Mr. 95%.
35:50I will answer.
35:52But we have to take a break.
35:56After the break.
35:58We have guests with us.
36:00Let's continue the discussion.
36:02Barrister Saif.
36:04This was not taken in confidence.
36:06This is wrong.
36:08This should not have been decided.
36:10We already have.
36:12Problems in Pakistan.
36:14Our population is increasing.
36:16If we give citizenship to the Afghans.
36:18Then.
36:20Our problems will not be less.
36:22They will increase.
36:24Let's try.
36:26You have given hospitality.
36:28To the people of Afghanistan.
36:30You kept them for a certain period.
36:32Obviously.
36:34If you want to go back to your country.
36:36You can send them in a way.
36:38He is saying.
36:40Give them citizenship.
36:42If someone is married here.
36:44And has children.
36:46Your law says.
36:48They are from here.
36:50But those who are not.
36:52You can send them.
36:54You can establish contact.
36:56You can send people.
36:58Do you think.
37:00We have treated the Afghans.
37:02We have treated them well.
37:04But we are taking the last step.
37:06On our hospitality.
37:08This is not the last step.
37:10But why they behave in a certain way.
37:12Against Pakistan.
37:14Everywhere.
37:16This is our own stupidity.
37:18We should ask the people.
37:20Who insulted them.
37:22What mistake was left.
37:24You are saying.
37:26We did the hospitality.
37:28We did the migration.
37:30We did the hospitality.
37:32We did the migration.
37:34We did the hospitality.
37:36We did the migration.
37:38We did the hospitality.
37:40We did the migration.
37:42We did the hospitality.
37:44We did the migration.
37:46We did the hospitality.
37:48We did the hospitality.
37:50We did the hospitality.
37:52We did the hospitality.
37:54We did the hospitality.
37:56We did the hospitality.
37:58We did the hospitality.
38:00We did the hospitality.
38:02We did the hospitality.
38:04We did the hospitality.
38:06We did the hospitality.
38:08We did the hospitality.
38:10We did the hospitality.
38:12We did the hospitality.
38:14We did the hospitality.
38:16We did the hospitality.
38:18We did the hospitality.
38:20We did the hospitality.
38:22We did the hospitality.
38:24We did the hospitality.
38:26We did the hospitality.
38:28We did the hospitality.
38:30We did the hospitality.
38:32We did the hospitality.
38:34We did the hospitality.
38:36We did the hospitality.
38:38We did the hospitality.
38:40We did the hospitality.
38:42We did the hospitality.
38:44We did the hospitality.
38:46We did the hospitality.
38:48We did the hospitality.
38:50We did the hospitality.
38:52We did the hospitality.
38:54What decision can we take?
38:56What decision can we take?
38:58What decision can we take?
39:00We have to talk to everyone.
39:02We have to talk to everyone.
39:04We have to talk to everyone.
39:06We have to talk to everyone.
39:08We have to talk to everyone.
39:10We have to talk to everyone.
39:12We have to talk to everyone.
39:14We have to talk to everyone.
39:16We have to talk to everyone.
39:18We have to talk to everyone.
39:20We have to talk to everyone.
39:22We have to talk to everyone.
39:24We have to talk to everyone.
39:26We have to talk to everyone.
39:28We have to talk to everyone.
39:30We have to talk to everyone.
39:32We have to talk to everyone.
39:34We have to talk to everyone.
39:36We have to talk to everyone.
39:38We have to talk to everyone.
39:40We have to talk to everyone.
39:42We have to talk to everyone.
39:44We have to talk to everyone.
39:46We have to talk to everyone.
39:48We have to talk to everyone.
39:50We have to talk to everyone.
39:52We have to talk to everyone.
39:54We have to talk to everyone.
39:56We have to talk to everyone.
39:58We have to talk to everyone.
40:00We have to talk to everyone.
40:02We have to talk to everyone.
40:04We have to talk to everyone.
40:06We have to talk to everyone.
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40:30We have to talk to everyone.
40:32We have to talk to everyone.
40:34We have to talk to everyone.
40:36We have to talk to everyone.
40:38We have to talk to everyone.
40:40We have to talk to everyone.
40:42We have to talk to everyone.
40:44We have to talk to everyone.
40:46We have to talk to everyone.
40:48We have to talk to everyone.
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40:54We have to talk to everyone.
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40:58We have to talk to everyone.
41:00We have to talk to everyone.
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41:04We have to talk to everyone.
41:06We have to talk to everyone.
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41:10We have to talk to everyone.
41:12We have to talk to everyone.
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41:20We have to talk to everyone.
41:22We have to talk to everyone.
41:24We have to talk to everyone.
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41:28We have to talk to everyone.
41:30We have to talk to everyone.
41:32We have to talk to everyone.
41:34We have to talk to everyone.
41:36We have to talk to everyone.
41:38We have to talk to everyone.
41:40We have to talk to everyone.