"Those sitting in this train were poor; if this attack had been on..."
Senior Journalist Nusrat Javed
Senior Journalist Nusrat Javed
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00:00In my program yesterday, former Senator Sana Baloch said something very interesting.
00:05He said that confidence-building measures should be taken.
00:07And it seems that if you look at the statements of terrorists and politicians,
00:11two issues are the biggest.
00:13One, they say that elections are not clear.
00:16Because of that, there is a lot of confusion.
00:18But the biggest issue is missing persons.
00:20During the break, the doctor was telling me how many roads have been built in Balochistan
00:24and they are related to missing persons.
00:26If the issue of missing persons is resolved,
00:29then perhaps the biggest strength of this statement will be broken.
00:33In this segment, I will try to ask all three of my friends
00:36how the issue of missing persons can be resolved.
00:39Because the report of the Missing Persons Commission has not been released yet.
00:43Judges do not get salaries of 11-12 lakhs a month.
00:46That report is not in front of us yet.
00:49And people keep talking about it.
00:51How can the issue of missing persons be resolved or mitigated?
01:21I have seen Mr. Bhutto's insurgency.
01:24He was arrested and tortured in Karaj branch for a week or 10 days.
01:28Then he was put in jail.
01:32And these cases went on for 2, 3, 4 years.
01:36I think that at least those who are very dangerous,
01:41they should meet their family once a month
01:46so that the family knows that their son is alive.
01:50If this issue is resolved,
01:53then I think that at least in Balochistan,
01:56you will be able to express your opinions.
01:59And the sympathies of your people are more on this issue.
02:09Secondly, you will have to provide job opportunities,
02:14development and good governance.
02:18And you will have to hold free and fair elections.
02:48Mr. Malik, Balochistan does not have many administrative divisions or districts.
02:58In my opinion, CBM can be a starting point.
03:03I would suggest that all three to four districts should have an administrative structure.
03:09First of all, you should make laws.
03:11You should make transparent laws.
03:13And when they pass, you should have the will to implement them.
03:17And you should have three to four districts as model districts.
03:20You should have as many administrative things as possible.
03:23You should establish law offices.
03:25These are the districts where there is a lot of confusion.
03:28Yes, where there is a lot of confusion and issues.
03:30And in a transparent way,
03:32I would suggest that people of civil society should also be involved in monitoring.
03:36Establish a monitoring group
03:38in which 100% of the missing people,
03:40who are made a missing case,
03:42a solid body should be there to announce that he is a black person.
03:48But there are some terrorists,
03:50there are some people who you may not be able to declare.
03:54But there is a body that is monitoring him.
03:57And it is telling everyone that you can do whatever you want.
04:01But establish it in three to four districts.
04:04And run it in a transparent way.
04:06You will find out for yourself whether the missing person is being exploited more
04:09or there are genuine issues.
04:11There is a senior politician,
04:13there is a senior military officer.
04:15Both agree on this.
04:16But the biggest question is that
04:18no one believes that there are missing persons or not.
04:20First of all, it is important to believe this.
04:22This is a mind change.
04:23How will this happen?
04:24And secondly, do you think that
04:26if we make this a top priority
04:28and make the government a singular agenda point,
04:30development will take place
04:32and ultimately that is the only solution.
04:34So for missing persons,
04:36this should be the numero uno priority.
04:39Sir, this should happen.
04:40I have a simple request.
04:42There is a threat of bail.
04:44So the thing is that
04:46tell me about any top politician in Pakistan
04:51who has not been arrested for 90 days under the law of NAB.
04:56Corruption is accused.
04:58So there is no question of bail in 90 days.
05:01Okay, sir.
05:02So you should use the same formula on the so-called terrorists.
05:08And like you have made NAB,
05:10make an anti-terrorist agency like this.
05:13Say that he has the power to arrest someone.
05:17The second thing, as Mr. Malik is saying,
05:20if you are starting now,
05:22then do this for now.
05:24But I am telling you again
05:27that for now you are in this mindset
05:30that like a person is listening to you, me,
05:34general sir, Dr. Malik sir seriously
05:38that there is a problem.
05:40Look, this incident that has happened,
05:44you believe me,
05:46if it had happened somewhere else,
05:48you tell me one thing,
05:4922 hours, 22 hours have passed.
05:52Listen, 22 hours have passed.
05:54There is a meeting of the National Assembly.
05:56There the leader of the opposition stands
05:58and says that we should discuss Balochistan.
06:00It has been 22 hours.
06:02So they say, no, no, sir, this is not an issue.
06:05Today, the so-called joint agreement is accepted.
06:09Look at the seriousness.
06:11Please look at the English version of it.
06:14When thanks have been paid for it,
06:16the armed forces,
06:17the military,
06:18and someone has written the air force by hand.
06:21That is, they were able to retype.
06:23This is the level.
06:25Okay, we can say that they did not know this much.
06:29Tell me, did the Minister of Internal Affairs come to the National Assembly to tell me what happened?
06:34Did the Minister of Defense see any commentary today?
06:37Look, you have said something very big.
06:39I say, appreciable.
06:41I am saying this with great pleasure.
06:43He heard it.
06:44He heard it.
06:45Perhaps he is upset that Parvez Khattak has come in.
06:48Why did he not get all the powers there?
06:50Why are the issues going on inside?
06:52If there is a problem with him,
06:54then such a problem is not with Khwaja Ziv.
06:56There is an allegation against him that he is the Minister of Defense.
06:59It is a good story.
07:04Within two days,
07:06at a place where the road is 26 kilometers long.
07:10But the problem is that the people on that train were poor people.
07:16If this attack had happened at a five-star hotel.
07:19Exactly.
07:20Yesterday I said that they were poor people and irrelevant.
07:25Okay, tell me,
07:27Doctor,
07:29there is a little time left.
07:31But if the conversation and the question were left in the middle.
07:34If you have to talk right now,
07:36you should talk to everyone.
07:38There are Marang and other people
07:40whom you say are the mouthpiece of terrorists.
07:42You will talk to everyone.
07:44Who will you talk to?
07:46Look, I understand that
07:48effectively,
07:50there are two organizations.
07:53They are BLA and BLF.
07:56But they will not talk.
07:58Because they are both young.
08:01They are the progenitors of BSO.
08:03They are intelligent people.
08:05But you should at least make a little attempt.
08:09At least try.
08:11The rest of the people who are sitting outside.
08:15Someone should pray to them.
08:18Someone should talk about confidence building.
08:21So that some things are initiated.
08:25In Balochistan,
08:27there have been wars and negotiations.
08:32If you completely reject these negotiations,
08:36then things will be...
08:38I mean, today you see
08:41that Ghaza will be destroyed.
08:43Everything will be destroyed.
08:45Despite this,
08:47Amas says that we will talk.
08:50Everything will be destroyed.
08:53Amas should not talk.
08:56But he says that we will talk.
08:59The point is that ultimately,
09:01we will have to talk.